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Q: What is this thread?
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Beta wasn't up by Friday so there
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I'm wondering if there will be a significant balance patch to herald phase 2's arrival in the next few days, or will they just pick up from where they left off. What sort of things are you guys expecting in terms of possible balance/b.net 2.0 changes if they do patch initially.
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I expect them to try som tournament system of sorts
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On July 02 2010 23:09 Sandrosuperstar wrote:I expect them to try som tournament system of sorts ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
maybe even they should organize a tournament, to celebrate SC2 release. i mean i would like to see some White-Ra pwnage soon
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On July 02 2010 23:09 Sandrosuperstar wrote:I expect them to try som tournament system of sorts ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
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Don't expect anything new -_-' Why do people have such over the top hopes for phase 2? They even said it wasn't going to be that special...all the goodies we want will be post release...
..like patch 1.08
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On July 02 2010 23:17 EliteAzn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2010 23:09 Sandrosuperstar wrote:I expect them to try som tournament system of sorts ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) .... Don't expect anything new -_-' Why do people have such over the top hopes for phase 2? They even said it wasn't going to be that special...all the goodies we want will be post release... ..like patch 1.08
Ye but i thought since it's beta, maybe they want to try out the tournament systems just to check for bugs and to see if b-net can handle it. Seems reasonable to me. Unless they plan to include tournaments in a later patch that is
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On July 02 2010 23:09 Sandrosuperstar wrote:I expect them to try som tournament system of sorts ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
Was thinking about that too a lot. But I think the focus should be more on making it more interesting, e.g. boosting styles of play and units that are underused atm.
But the change I'm hoping most for is 1food roaches.
Now that tanks have 50 damage, it is possible to do that properly: 100hp, 2armor, 10dmg and 1food, 50min 25gas. Also make them smaller. The rest as is.
What will be the result? Unupgraded tanks and immortals 3shot them, as they do now. With one attack upgrade, they 2shot them. Thors always 2shot them. 2upgraded Ultras 3shot them. They will have considerable tankability against the lower damage fast attacking units.
You can get lots of them, giving the Zerg this swarmy feel they miss. But they are gas capped and weaker, so you can't get an overwhelming army early, as was possible at the start of beta, when they were those super units.
Them being smaller makes roach groups denser, allowing better focus fire for the roach, and gives them more mobility, but also makes them more vulnerable to splash damage.
Which also means banelings become very cost effective against clumped roach groups larger than 5. Interesting early ZvZ where you can and need to get just the right balance of roach/ling/bling and micro it well?
The cranks that should be used for the likely further balancing (I don't expect this to be perfect immediatly, needs games to test obviously), are their damage, size and the burrowed regeneration rate.
As I said, I don't think this would be really necessary from a balanbce point of view. It just would make Zerg more like the Zerg swarm.
Some other changes I would like to see too, but I posted most of them already.
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On July 02 2010 23:23 imbecile wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2010 23:09 Sandrosuperstar wrote:I expect them to try som tournament system of sorts ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) But the change I'm hoping most for is 1food roaches. .
That change would be redic. As a zerg player, it would be a lot more fun....HOWEVER...they COULD be a little OP at 1 food....but maybe i'm wrong..
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But the change I'm hoping most for is 1food roaches
Beating this dead horse again.
I hope phase 2 is the same as phase 1 balance and unit-wise. I do not have the data to make a reasonable judgement as to what needs "nerfing/buffing" and I can assume you do not either.
I would mainly hope for interface changes and smoothing, like additional options in game to health bar transparency, or position relative to units. Also, this might just be me, but I want profiles to be more interactive, and a way to show off your icon and ranking to other players on bnet... (*cough* chat lobby *cough*) I mean come on, what else are these features for besides showing off your e-peen (or lack thereof) to the random public, because your friends don't want to see it.
Yup.
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I dont expect any changes otherwise maybe some balance changes, but i am not even sure about that, as the last balance patch had so little time to stew.
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On July 02 2010 23:39 Wonderballs wrote: Beating this dead horse again.
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I do not have the data to make a reasonable judgement as to what needs "nerfing/buffing" and I can assume you do not either.
None of my suggestions are motivated by a feeling of something being OP and needs nerfing or buffing. I don't play the beta, I can't really comment on that. It's an afterthought.
All changes I wanna see are purely motivated by me wanting to see more diverse gameplay. That encompasses making the races divers fro each other and with a unique character, as well as making the races themselves diverse and dynamic.
And Zerg not having a 1food fighting unit is just not right.
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Wondering if SC2 went gold during the maintenance, anything to help stave off the fear of delay
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On July 02 2010 23:04 CauthonLuck wrote: I'm wondering if there will be a significant balance patch to herald phase 2's arrival in the next few days, or will they just pick up from where they left off. What sort of things are you guys expecting in terms of possible balance/b.net 2.0 changes if they do patch initially.
I think it's highly unlikely that there will be a significant balance patch now because the developers are preparing the game for release. If anything there might be a major ladder system re-haul.
But post-retail I think devs will definitely tackle the elephant in the room that is the uselessness of ultralisk and mothership!
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Hi, please comment holds up mic like a reporter*
Is teamliquid planning on implementing a much needed tournament section?
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On July 03 2010 00:16 Paramore wrote:Hi, please comment ![](/mirror/smilies/puh.gif) holds up mic like a reporter* Is teamliquid planning on implementing a much needed tournament section?
Is this what you're talking about? Sorry if I'm missing anything.
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I believe there was a blue post saying players shouldn't expect much of a change from the end of phase 1 to the beginning of phase 2. Too lazy to dig it up though :<
Edit: Tracked it down, blue post tracker made it easy.
Woah, well, in attempts to manage some expectations: Most of the work right now is on ensuring we have as solid and stable a release as possible.
What you saw in phase one (with the exception of character codes and some minor balance tweaks) is what you'll see in phase two, and release. A lot of the larger feature integration and refinement plans that we've been discussing recently are planned for post-launch. -Bashiok
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Well this morning today the Blizzard notification in the Starcraft 2 main menu "The first beta phase will end today.....thank you for your help in testing Starcraft 2....." blablabla wasn;t there anymore ,and now when I enter the game i get a yellow in game notification window "You are trying to log in with a client version not recognized by the Battle.net service".So I wouldn't rule out the second phase starting today or in the next couple of days just yet .
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Am I the only one who things of SS runes everytime I see the psionic storm upgrade icon? When undeads were the nazis of WC3, protoss are the ones of SC2!
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IIRC blizz said beta would be back up a for a couple weeks before release, so 14 days before the 27th would be the 13th, so at the very least I'd expect it by then
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