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TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
May 08 2025 04:52 GMT
#1
Discussion thread for front page poll: "How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports?"
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33432 Posts
May 08 2025 04:55 GMT
#2
Throwing this one out there because I wonder how many people are on board with me and have a very strong preference for 2+.

Even if it's not a "big" tournament, I feel like having 2+ casters makes them mutually lock-in and take things a bit more seriously. The work solo-streamers do in the SC2 scene is absolutely vital, but you do definitely feel the fatigue/jadedness when they've been doing the solo stream for too many hours.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51480 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-08 05:29:26
May 08 2025 05:28 GMT
#3
i don't know how people can solo cast for hours on end, especially if you are self-producing the broadcast yourself, it gets very fatiguing compared to having a co-caster to bounce back and forth with. it's even worse if you don't have a chat to interact with and it feels like you are just talking to yourself with no end point.
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Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
May 08 2025 05:58 GMT
#4
I was thinking Viper and Infestor is 2 caster what else..

Good thing you mentioned people speaking.
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True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3425 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-08 06:47:09
May 08 2025 06:46 GMT
#5
2 instead of 1 makes a world of difference, and 3 is amazing in a long cast if they vibe with each other well.
jodljodl
Profile Joined October 2016
174 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-08 07:37:39
May 08 2025 07:29 GMT
#6
In my eyes, the number of casters is not a decisive factor in whether I think a cast is good or bad, or whether I enjoy it.

3 casters with no knowledge of the game they cast will almost certainly make the cast less enjoyable for me compared to a one-man-cast with an knowledgeable caster. Even if the casting skill for the trio is superior to the solo person.

For example: I would take Pig, Zombiegrub, Winter, Lowko, State, Artosis, Harstem, Lambo and probably any progamer solo casting over State and Tasteless any day. With all due respect to Tasteless I feel like his knowledge of the current state of sc2 is barely existing. This makes his participation in any sc2(!) cast less enjoyable to me. Totally different story for bw of course.

On the other hand though I love the casting archon in its prime decade :>. I didn't want to miss a GSL cast just because of them. Not only but also

So i guess I can summarize, not the number of casters is deciding if I enjoy a cast but the game knowledge and casting skill of each participating caster. And of course just because someone is an amazing solo caster doesn't make him/her an amazing duo/trio... caster.


edit: I don't wanna shit over Tasteless here. I only meant him as an example. He right away popped into mind since I was watching the GSL cast yesterday. And I like State and Tasteless a lot. But not their sc2(!) duo-casting. Probably I dislike it more than other comparable duos. Probably because I subconsciously measure him/them against Tastosis. Which to be fair is not fair
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May 08 2025 09:11 GMT
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oliverjames123
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May 08 2025 09:13 GMT
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Ciaus237
Profile Joined July 2015
South Africa285 Posts
May 08 2025 10:17 GMT
#9
For most things 2 casters is great. And it can be inconsistent, but 3 is amazing when it works at all.

I think we are lucky to have many great casters who can do solo content and make it enjoyable, but there are only a few people I can listen to do solo content for hours on end (shoutout to Wardiii for this, he is goated).
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44614 Posts
May 08 2025 11:18 GMT
#10
The poll seems to be structured as 1 caster vs. 2+ casters. I personally think that precisely 2 is ideal; casting a game solo is a lot for one person to handle, and 3+ can lead to "too many cooks" competing to rotate in. I think that 2 commentators who have a good rapport and can riff off each other back-and-forth leads to the best energy and entertainment and casting.
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Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States873 Posts
May 08 2025 20:56 GMT
#11
Love the 2 caster style, so many awesome duos over the years. But I voted "moderately" on my preference, because there are some that I really enjoy on their own. Winter comes to mind with his voices/memes/other shenanigans, while still having great game knowledge
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Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1209 Posts
May 08 2025 21:51 GMT
#12
I think I usually prefer two casters, especially since it has become a bit of an industry standard, with a clear distinction between the two.
That being said: When I was still a caster for WC3, I usually prefered to cast solo. Might just have been the a problem with the time, Skype/Teamspeak having delays etc. but I did not cast with many that I truely clicked with. Though I probably had some of my best shoutcasts with the partners I actually had amazing syngery with
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-08 23:19:47
May 08 2025 23:19 GMT
#13
I don't care how many casters there are. Solo casts are fine by me, as are group casts. All I care about is if the person casting is knowledgeable and skilled at the game.

If I am better tnan you at the game, get the hell off the stream.
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afreecaTV.Char
Profile Joined December 2014
United States337 Posts
May 08 2025 23:49 GMT
#14
It's totally up to the caster. I agree that 2+ casters make it much easier, but I've seen plenty of solo casters do a great job in esports and cycling.
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DavidHennry
Profile Joined May 2025
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May 09 2025 04:59 GMT
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Ciaus237
Profile Joined July 2015
South Africa285 Posts
May 09 2025 06:52 GMT
#16
On May 09 2025 13:59 DavidHennry wrote:
I was watching a stream the other day and it really hit me how much smoother things feel with two casters instead of just one. The energy just flows better when there’s someone to bounce ideas and reactions off — even if it's not a huge tournament. That said, major respect to solo casters who hold it down for hours, especially in SC2. Wardiii and Winter do a great job of keeping it engaging on their own.

On a side note, I’ve gotten into working on a beaded bag from Tillie Beads while watching streams lately — surprisingly relaxing combo. Anyone else do something with their hands while watching casts? Definitely makes the downtime between games more fun.


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Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
191 Posts
May 09 2025 13:43 GMT
#17
Wardi has thee passion since he is having to cast /produce/ organize everything himself. I am surprise he hasn’t been burnout yet

But I’ll watch any games being casted by Pig and Rotti. They are literally the best in the business. Their voice really engages with the audience and knows when to hype up during each game

Wardi is the best for keeping the sc2 scene alive
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile162 Posts
May 09 2025 22:13 GMT
#18
Where's "2 and only 2"
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25700 Posts
May 09 2025 22:26 GMT
#19
My favourite setup is probably a 3, but the blend has to be just right.

The colour, the anchor and the specialist.

The colour is there for vibes and banter when there’s downtime, Tasteless would be a pretty obvious example of that.

The anchor is your kinda mainstay caster, can do some banter, but knows quite a lot about the game/scene to sorta carry things that way and be a bridge. Here you’ve an Artosis, a Rotterdam etc

Your specialist is a very high level pro, they’ll have that extra level of depth and knowledge across most matchups, but especially that of their race. They can still banter if they’re good at that, but you want them for the real granular detail and understanding they can bring, think Grubby or Idra when they did some casting, or a Harstem or a Lambo these days.

If it’s all in sync, it’s great. If the 3 roles pop in and out at appropriate times to bring what they bring, massive fan of that setup.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13980 Posts
May 10 2025 01:15 GMT
#20
Had yoi asked me this a year ago, I would say 2+ matters. Now I'm rather indifferent. I miss Nyoken
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