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Reasons hes in the thread asap and not basking in the wonders of seeing a scum qt for the first time. | ||
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On May 22 2015 07:45 Breshke wrote: he would have had 24 to get over the wonders of a scum qt though. Also Hi ahhhh maybe your right. I dumbtelled! | ||
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On May 22 2015 08:08 Breshke wrote: Oh yeah and SL is mafia ##Vote Sicklucker what? you say i dumbtelled then you vote me? what? | ||
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On May 22 2015 08:46 Tictock wrote: SL what do you think of BM's vote on bunnies then? He is serious you know... no hes a troll | ||
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On May 22 2015 08:48 Breshke wrote: It also says the all Qts were active in the like initial start of game post. I'm not going to read you for a dumbbell SL I'm going to read you on giving nonsensical town reads and not thinking critically about the game well you should because thats how you read me town | ||
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On May 22 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote: I really like this post and not even because it's telling people to vote SL the thought process is spot on. its really nothing special. And im already playing and trying so its pretty pointless | ||
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On May 22 2015 09:30 Breshke wrote: Trying? Saying your town for dumbtelling when its completly within your ability to do it as scum and your only read being that im scum for not calling you town for said dumbtell. I don't call that trying. I get it is early but do you have opinions on anyone? What do you think of disinfo now that the QT thing has been corrected? town points for not realizing their was a scum qt up for 24 hours like any town should | ||
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On May 22 2015 10:25 Bill Murray wrote: Disinformation the game so far has been people reacting to a post batsnacks has , premade, Sicklucker is someone I want to see more from The scum qt thing I agree with because I didn't realize it would have been open either considering town couldn't talk ...... then why are you voting me? explain | ||
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On May 22 2015 10:25 Breshke wrote: Scum points for still not saying anything useful and continuing to say you are town because of a dumbtell since when do you even have high standards from me? | ||
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On May 22 2015 10:33 Tictock wrote: Welcome to the thread! Wth is this vote? @BM I'm just trying to get something a little more solid from ya since there is a bit of stuff to look over now. I feel you've satisfied that for now. ## Unvote the best vote in the thread imo. Was it a pocket attempt maybe? but hes new so I doubt it breske looks pretty bad so im not surprised | ||
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do you honestly think I ever read the op? like you know I dont comeon I dumbtell everygame and its always legit but you never accept it the next time it happen | ||
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On May 22 2015 10:24 Sulfurus wrote: @sicklucker is it not normal for the mafia QT to be open during pregame b/c if it is you shouldn't have made that dumbtell also ##Vote: Breshke actually I forgot their was coaches. It looks coached This was probably a pocket attempt. No one ever agrees with me unless they have a motive. Also I think breskes town because if his mafia game is to attack me of all people in a newbie game with really weak reasons I will berate him post game so hes probably town. Sulfurus Sulfurus I got a n0 red check no you what say you? | ||
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Breske heres something you have to know about me. I play mafia on 2+2 as well. Their they run nightly turbos that last an hour. I have probably played 50 of them. In them youh ave to make quick "thin" reads to get anything done. its what im used to and its what I always do on this site as well as both alignment. | ||
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On May 22 2015 11:48 Tictock wrote: SL, Sul hadn't commented about Bre's posts till after you made that statement. Tell us what you really were thinking when posting that rather than retconning it with stuff you know now. Starting to see shades of red in ya. He voted breske it was obv to me why | ||
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nope... | ||
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definition - a guy who always looks scummy and gets lynched not saying dont lynch him but keep that in mind | ||
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Did you guys just plan your list posts in the qt or something | ||
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So were to believe he wrote that in 6 minutes or was nonstop pressing f5 to see if anyone posts as he made his list post? Potentially planned their stock as potential teammates went up | ||
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Dont be afraid now | ||
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On May 22 2015 17:48 Rels wrote: What is -ev btw ? below expected value. It just means its not a good lynch based on numbers. If theirs a chance he can be modkilled even if small its a waste of a lynch | ||
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On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote: Okay, so let's look at this post. First off, I actually like you. I disagree with the pushon you. Secondly, the vote on SL was due to him first coming into the thread with "Confirmed town". Troll post=troll vote. However, I haven't moved my vote on SL because SL hasn't done anything to prove to me he is town. I'll go over this a bit later. When saying Breshke and SL were partners, in part I was joking. I was trying to get some type of reaction from SL, which if I remember correctly I don't think I ever got. It was Breshke that actually started questioning this, which I really REALLY like of Breshke. As SL said, I shot him as vig in a previous game, he was mafia. I usually have a good read on Breshke, and this questioning makes me think that Breshke is town. So even if I didn't get information out of SL from this (SL prob still my top lynch, followed by newbie Boxer for that awful first couple of posts), I did get information on Breshke's alignment. acualy I just said first. I never said I saw town ;p | ||
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I would prefer it if we just shot.cop checked bill murray instead of lynching him so we have to acualy play the game and not policy lynch him like every other game hes in | ||
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On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote: Okay, so let's look at this post. First off, I actually like you. I disagree with the pushon you. Secondly, the vote on SL was due to him first coming into the thread with "Confirmed town". Troll post=troll vote. However, I haven't moved my vote on SL because SL hasn't done anything to prove to me he is town. I'll go over this a bit later. When saying Breshke and SL were partners, in part I was joking. I was trying to get some type of reaction from SL, which if I remember correctly I don't think I ever got. It was Breshke that actually started questioning this, which I really REALLY like of Breshke. As SL said, I shot him as vig in a previous game, he was mafia. I usually have a good read on Breshke, and this questioning makes me think that Breshke is town. So even if I didn't get information out of SL from this (SL prob still my top lynch, followed by newbie Boxer for that awful first couple of posts), I did get information on Breshke's alignment. this is acualy a complete lie. Im not sure why she wuold llie here thats like all I posted not sure how that can be interpreted as trolling or saying im town. I ignored bunnies because what she did was worthy of ignoring I have a small scum lean on her | ||
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On May 22 2015 22:52 disformation wrote: Ah cool, you are here bunnies. ![]() Noted. Could be an attempt to please me, so I stop pushing you. Yup. That is why I called it NAI. Looking forward to see that. ![]() I really like this answer. ![]() Haven't looked much at boxer yet, could you highlight some things that sprung out for you? I skimmed it and I didn't see anything that would strongly lead me in either direction. Though he could be mafia trying to play the newb card? what? now people are sheeping a read that was made up? | ||
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disinfo can you list your read. I have no idea what your reads are and you posted alot not a good sign | ||
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Secondly, the vote on SL was due to him first coming into the thread with "Confirmed town". Troll post=troll vote. Yup. That is why I called it NAI. | ||
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On May 23 2015 09:11 Bill Murray wrote: im home and i have my computer set up at my new house score still waiting | ||
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I acualy see what hes trying to do with the chart. looking for who ignores who. But now that its out in the open mafia will spam their team mates | ||
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On May 23 2015 12:03 batsnacks wrote: ##vote sicklucker ignore this it's nothing + Show Spoiler + but I'm probably not switching ![]() wut in the world... | ||
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On May 23 2015 12:13 Breshke wrote: ##Unvote Forgot to do this last night already gave a reason for it, I agree plot is almost never mafia now although that might have to be reconsidered later. Also I really have a town boner about bats like idk if its because it is a newbie game or what but you just seem to be playing different this game and I really like it. I asked bunnies specifically about bats because they both kind of did a thing where they asked a question to try get reads of newbies like a general sort of thing and wanted to see if that had any effect on bunnies read to see if she noticed but apprently she didnt. That doesn't really say much though. So people that arn't getting lynched today are as follow Breshke Tictock Bats Boxerfred (mainly because of bats) I would still like to know what the playstyle is like at the other place you play like how do votes work throw me in the list and i dont hate it | ||
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Can we just vote bats your townread on him makes no sense breske | ||
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On May 23 2015 02:56 batsnacks wrote: SL is null still. I never really had a reason to scum read him I sort of just voted him to vote someone. I'm looking at sulfur and Scott until they post something that sticks in my memory. When I find time I need to read bunnies filter and sort out some of the stuff I saw when I was skimming. I'm off work in like 3 hours I can only really briefly respond/snark at stuff until then. I thought i was still null bats? OOPPS | ||
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On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote: @tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared. Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things. ##vote: sicklucker 0 scum read on me 100% presure vote On May 23 2015 02:56 batsnacks wrote: SL is null still. I never really had a reason to scum read him I sort of just voted him to vote someone. I'm looking at sulfur and Scott until they post something that sticks in my memory. When I find time I need to read bunnies filter and sort out some of the stuff I saw when I was skimming. I'm off work in like 3 hours I can only really briefly respond/snark at stuff until then. Still no read on me admits his vote on me means nothing On May 23 2015 12:20 batsnacks wrote: Let's lynch SL seriously. Town SL takes being scum read way more personally than he has this game. Scott is a fine vote too and so is BM at this point but I'm really feeling SL if he thinks he can ignore pressure and do nothing. Has not mentioned me since all of a sudden he drops this post which conveniently is similar to thread setiment Ya ok bats ok. I think hes a mafia with a made up read here following a few donkeys who cant read my obv town play | ||
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into "screw it lets just kill sicklucker hes ignoring presure even tho he has 0 votes lol pressure im not under any real threat here ill bust it open if I feel threatened | ||
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but say hes mafia he has to push someone | ||
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On May 23 2015 16:32 Breshke wrote: SL this post here. Is it ment to be you voting batsnacks? I assume this is you being confused because you play on 2 + 2 aswell and if it is im not sure how you havnt noticed that none of your votes count nor the wraning from the host that said to format your shit correctly. So you have either never voted which is retarded because you have posted so much so what would all the posting have been for you arn't pushing shit nor trying to work out the game. Or you have been trying to vote and have not been paying attention to the thread hardly at all to realize that you havn't been doing it correctly. Which would be scummy because once again you havn't been trying to figure out the game. stfu ##vote batsnacks 2+2 vote format way better it is true | ||
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Ya whatever. On a quick reread disinfo filter is not really bad. No way we cant kill scott here. I think a policy lynch is fine I have no high percentage flips in my mind | ||
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On May 23 2015 20:36 Rels wrote: Yo a quick post and I'll be gone until the deadline. Hope I can be around just before but no guarantee. First scott still haven't showed up and answered the questions ... questions he asked for in his last post may I remind you. So I'm happy to see him lynch atm. Second I don't like this wagon on disformation at all. The only one with arguments is Barakos so I'm not suspicious of him, but the other two I am (27nb and plotspot). I don't like plotspot voting on an analysis made on the first hours of the game. Talking about plotspot. Woaw that's a lot of work. But I agree with ticktock's thoughts on him in his list post. Don't have a lot of time so you will have to find it yourself. To summarize what I liked about his argument: What plotspot did takes a lot of work. But he doesn't push any agenda and it's pretty non alignment indicative. If all a mafia has to do to look town is to make pretty graphics that takes 6 hours to make, we wouldn't catch any. So I agree to not lynch him today but he's not town forever for me. Last about SL. Again (= I don't like that he says "plotspot is town forever maybe" and then he says "what you did doesn't bring a lot to the table". I don't like how he responded to batsnacks' pressure. Sorry about the lack of quotes I have to go. My list lynch is: Scott BM SL See you tonight, hopefully before EOD! Have a good day (= ya scum would be | ||
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On May 23 2015 20:11 batsnacks wrote: idk I was just drunk and messing around on my phone and was like "SL thinks he can ignore me eh, well let's see him ignore this." Then I thought about it some more and was like maybe that was a mistake. Then I thought about it even more and was like nah can't be that bad SL usually freaks out way more then he has when people scum read him for what he thinks are unreasonable reasons. Here hes clearly saying he ment it at the time | ||
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On May 24 2015 06:04 Sulfurus wrote: I admit even I am confused as to why NinjaBunnies is defending me so hard; right now the only vote on her is Tictock (someone who I have had a townread on longer then anyone else) but she is definitely someone who needs to be looked at later. For me the the person with the most useful reads and my top town is Barakos; he was the one who helped me townread Breshke and scumread Disformation with this post, he has shown a healthy suspicion of NinjaBunnies, and he influenced me to un-vote BM, along with SL, with his coinflip argument (for the record I still think SL is town). My favorite Barakos post so far is this one right here especially the Batsnacks part which shows how scummy he truly is (Bat's overly defensive reactions in posts 538 & 539 don't help his case either) so while he won't get lynched today I'll definitely be pushing for his death tomorrow. ##Vote: Batsnacks Your first post screamed pretty obv town and me and bunnies picked that up. Thats one of the reads I liked about her | ||
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On May 24 2015 06:06 Tictock wrote: Also SL, you seriously forgot how to format votes here? Like we played in the same game a week ago and I know your not new to these forums/games... yes I did. I mentioned I played like 100 1 hour mafia games on another site. Alot of your questions are so pointless so maybe thats why I ignore you sometimes and rub you the wrong way | ||
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On May 24 2015 06:18 Tictock wrote: Lol SL, i actually don't mind when you ignore me so much. It's when you try to act like your so infallible or whatever that I get bothered. Actually now that I've had a couple of games to learn how to read and approach you I don't mind you so much. I'll admit, when you post stuff like this It rubs me the wrong way, but then I suppose I had a similar reaction to BS's vote on you. To me it was obv that he just wanted to bug you but you're very sure that he wants to lynch you (even though he moved his vote) i just think theirs a strong possiblity he back tracked. im pretty undecided im not voting him | ||
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Confirmed not veg dont shoot me mafia. Out for the night in a few | ||
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If you dont claim your setting mafia up for easy counterclaims. I think I know about this better the you no offense. Im not saying you have to im saying you can | ||
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On May 24 2015 07:23 Tictock wrote: 100% willing to Lynch SL tomorrow based off that one post btw. lol ive asked the veg to claim in 3 of my laast 4 games now because they should | ||
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mafia games/theory thought by tictock - 1 game I dont think you should tell me the mechanics of this game | ||
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On May 24 2015 07:57 Rels wrote: Yeah for scum lynched (= happy about that. I think vig should not claim before shooting. I would agree if we were sur to have a doc. But we don't know that it is not an open setup. No it's not good. Vig should claim day 2 if he shooted: - if he is not counter claimed, we have a confirmed blue - if he is counter claimed, we have another scum lynch in day 3 in the worst scenario. doc is irrelevant because he can get his shot off anyway. im drunk but whos here? | ||
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On May 24 2015 08:11 Rels wrote: Do we have confirmation it is 3 mafia ? I mean, that's what I assume too, but is it written anywhere ? yes its going to always be 3 mafia in 13 player format but if theirs a sk then 2? im not getting many mafia reads so thats possible. | ||
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On May 24 2015 08:26 Breshke wrote: No one need to claim anything if mafia claims Vigi on their night kill the lack of another kill would be fairly obvious. Never listen to SL about mechanics. He rarely thinks about what he says. MWAHAHHAHAHAAHHA true but im still right | ||
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On May 24 2015 08:58 Breshke wrote: So this post from SL is fairly horrible. Doesn't swap his vote does nothing with his "feeling". This looks very much like scum testing the waters trying to see if people would swap off his buddy. but i did vote the mafia o.o | ||
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On May 24 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote: Has a shitty push on disinfo doesn't explain anything or put any effort into getting him lynched just faking suspicion to seem town. Backs of his shitty read again with no reasoning when wagon seems to be going against his partner. Starts bussing to get towncred. Tries to push rels AGAIN with no reasoning. Does not put any effort into getting rels lynched instead of scott even though scott is just a policy lynch for him and rels he genuinely thinks is scum. SL is not trying to work out the game he mainly just posts to post. Probably started bussing his partner then tried to see if he could start a different wagon. When noone started biting he just drops it. [b]We are lynching SL tomorrow[b]. ![]() | ||
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On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote: Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin u mad? | ||
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On May 24 2015 07:04 cakepie wrote: ~ Final Vote Count ~ scott31337 (6) : Rels, disformation (3) : Barakos, plotspot (1) : Bill Murray, 27ninjabunnies (1) : batsnacks (1) : Bill Murray (0) : boxerfred (0) : Breshke (0) : sicklucker (0) : Sulfurus (0) : Not voting (1) : scott31337 Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched! + Show Spoiler [Details] +
this is what a hammer vote looks like newbs. write it in your notepad I also pressured/encouraged bats into following me | ||
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On May 24 2015 18:04 Rels wrote: I was the first to post about scott. I was the first to vote for him. I'm not advocating a lynch because you didn't vote mafia. I am for 7 reasons listed above. voting first does not rly mean much. It just means he gave up earlier and asked you to bus him | ||
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On May 24 2015 18:04 Rels wrote: I was the first to post about scott. I was the first to vote for him. I'm not advocating a lynch because you didn't vote mafia. I am for 7 reasons listed above. being the first to vote the low hanging policy vote isint much tbh. We got lucky as a town even I didnt think hr was a great lynch and I hammered him | ||
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On May 25 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote: I'm not going to argue with you why rels would have been a terrible Vigi shot because it isn't useful to talk about. They were clearly town even before the flip he was the one who started the wagon on Scott. Plot why aren't you voting SL yet? Do you not think he is scum? why is anyone voting me honestly? can anyone explain? | ||
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On May 24 2015 23:06 disformation wrote: Great, looking forward to that. ![]() Looking at the votes on scott: rels: pressures all the people with low/zero posts. did put a pressure vote on scott for basically only having 1-2 meh posts. scott tries to get rels off him, by saying he likes rels a lot. rels didn't seem impressed. scott never returns, so rels just keeps his vote on him. breskhe: also voting for doing jack. but also backs it up with a meta read. Oh and he also calls out scott earlier: Liking breshke a lot looking at this. ![]() sicklucker: votes batsnacks, quickly drops that vote. Either a joke vote, or realizing that this wagon won't go anywhere? Looks at the two available wagons, realizes that scott looks worse than me, throws his vote on him. Says N1 that he would have tried to get me lynched instead of scott, if he had been around EoD1. Not sure what to make of him atm. =/ batsnacks: had an earlier vote on scott, after looking at bunnies, sulf and scott. decided to vote scott out of that bunch. Then switches to sicklucker with that one super irritating post. TBH I was thinking batsnacks and sicklucker were just trolling each other there. But sicklucker is still going on about that? Well, batsnacks drops this vote on sicklucker super fast and votes scott with: Since this aligns with his previous vote/read and the sicklucker vote was just a troll, I think this looks legit. boxerfred: annouces that he will vote for an inactive person with: goes ahead and votes scott: Expresses some doubts here: So... he goes from "I'll vote for whoever is really inactiv", which can imply "regardless of alignment" to "oh wow I really don't like to coinflip on the most inactive person ever." Not really liking this. boxerfred, I would love to explain your train of thought on this. If someone arrives at other conclusions from the votes, I would be down to talk about that. Will do some chores now so: ![]() me unvoting bats is non alignment related. I relized he was not gonna get any votes and my vote was wasted. so i unvote their as town or mafia because its a wasted vote. I said I was considering voting you did I ever tho? no because before I voted you I read your filter and decided you were not a great vote and then I lynched scum. | ||
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Me and bunnies would not be that obv. I sapose I could be with bm? why dont you just vote him first | ||
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On May 25 2015 08:15 plotspot wrote: I never understood what you mean by ogi? Can you explain that technicality? scott always says im really smart as mafia so I feel like he wouldnt play like that if he was my partner because he would have higher expectations | ||
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On May 25 2015 08:22 batsnacks wrote: What did you think of bm's big post where he went all james joyce? didnt read yet | ||
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2) Tictock like never my partner he has too many petty arguments againt me and votes me 4) plotspot Pushing me today 5) boxerfred acual this one makes some sense good thing im not scum 6) disformation hes pushing/voting me 7) Barakos would I check my team mate? Also probably pushing me im not sure 8) Sulfurus Who cares hes town 9) 27ninjabunnies Dont think we would be that obv 10) Bill Murray Im his only push apparently. I think hes the vote today 11) Breshke woulda rage quit if he was my partner 13) batsnacks pretty sure hes trying to lynch me. I voted him he voted me | ||
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On May 25 2015 08:31 plotspot wrote: thanks for the explanation SL, but I still don't understand what the word "ogi" means. google? out of game info | ||
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On May 25 2015 08:31 batsnacks wrote: He had many similar posts in his last game as mafia in assassination. him pushing me here makes him much more likely to be mafia since im town and have like 6 prevotes | ||
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I was one of the first to give townreads on sulp/ plot (everyone copied my townread on those two) and one of the first on tictock since people forget the reads I have made | ||
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But im never scum because I didnt know about the scum qt. I got my role pm 24 hours before but I never conisidered if there was a scum qt up because I am not mafia. Like this is a legit dumb tell. I have never made a dumbtell up this means im town its not rocket science | ||
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On May 22 2015 11:44 scott31337 wrote: Dinner was good and now time to get to work... I'm unsure what to think of BM's early vote, maybe just to get some discussion started? He unvoted though. SL loves to fakeclaim as town. +1 if anything scott spewed me as town not you. Scott talked about me more then you. If im mafia with scott why does he talk about me? Im willing to give you another day tho bill he did mention voting you. Good idea reminding me to read scotss filter. But im going to remind you to reread it because the way scott talks about me makes me town. | ||
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ticktock - annoying town dont think he would try to piss me off like this as mafia 5) boxerfred - no Idea I tend to ignore newer players 6) disformation- He was the counter wagon to a mafia so hes safe for today. I really dont read him well I would have to reread his last game. Not voting today 7) Barakos - green checked 8) Sulfurus - I had the same townread on him from his first post as 24/7 bunnies did . I know I was a little weird with that post timing but it was just me thinking out loud in thread. since i tr him i mostly ignored him which is probably not great but its what ive done 9) 27ninjabunnies - Was at first suspicious but leaned slightly town because I noticed we had same reads on people like sluf 10) Bill Murray - him getting soft pushed by a 3 post confirmed mafia is probably a great reason to keep him around 11) Breshke - been tring him but Think he has some mafia equity. Not gonna reread him now because I cant get him lynched anyway 13) batsnacks - Hes town when her pushes people. Here hes not pushing anyone he even backtracks on me Think hes scum | ||
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On May 25 2015 09:31 batsnacks wrote: I'm going to play the asshole and point out that plots' spreadsheet is completely useless. Yes it looks like it took a lot of time and spending a lot of time on the game is townie but the spreadsheet itself is not useful for anything but activity wifom. His reads are not as strong as I would expect for someone who believes they are working some amazing mafia finding tool. And if he didn't believe the spreadsheet were an amazing mafia finding tool why would he spend so much time on it? i can confirm his tool has been a great town finding tool in me | ||
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When hes scum he does not push people (like this game) when hes town he does so far this read has held up | ||
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But out of everyone in this game hes the only one correctly reading me and has me as top town. SO i have to give him some credit here since my pm says im town and hes right and no one else is | ||
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I think this was a slip ##vote batsnacks | ||
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On May 23 2015 11:14 batsnacks wrote: Also holy hell plots is town. I am the only person ever who has spreadsheet'ed that hard as mafia. NICE BATTRACK anyway if this was bats first time battracking this game I would probably let it slide. But this is his second or third hard battrack | ||
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On May 25 2015 09:47 batsnacks wrote: Brother The iching thing took me 5 minutes and it was in the first hour of the game. Your thing is completely different. I said what I said because I don't want to see you coast on some spreadsheet that isn't going to help town. BUT YOU SAID HES 100% TOWN. If I were to rate how strong of a townread you gave plot for day1 it was a 10/10 who cares if he gives shit reads most towns do. We know hes town theres no reason to put shit on him. This is standard mad scum play and retracting on a townread because you need a lynch | ||
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They go ok he did that chart thing it took him 9 hours hes always town They realize his reads are going to be shit because hes a new player They dont get mad and ask him to have better reads because they dont care. They are just happy they have a cheap confirmed town thats basicly a cop check for free | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + We both got spewed town by scott | ||
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No one would listen to me anyway so why would I ever suggest a shot? lol I just said to come forward if your a newb and need help. Dont overthink it | ||
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On May 25 2015 14:14 Sulfurus wrote: Whoops I believe that should be a link to post 264 IIRC your 'case' against me is that I called Bill Murray 'mislynch bait' which came off as TMI to you. TBH I don't actually know if Bill is town or not but I thought that term sounded better then 'lynch bait' since bait is usually a kind of trap you don't want to get caught in (think fishing) but we want to lynch mafia not avoid it (hopefully that makes sense). As for Sicklucker I feel he has been so busy defending himself that he hasn't been able to give any useful reads and Rels gave a very good accusation of him here so I don't think I will bother defending and I may even vote on him if it comes down to it. @Bill Murray I don't quite understand why you rescinded your vote off of SL. Can you please explain? I would like to see this too I could use some defending . I know you have good reasons but unvoting me because I unvoted you can look bad to the dim witted. Regardless bm is almost never mafia because scott pushed him hes pretty close to confirmed town | ||
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On May 25 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote: OHH lol. My read isn't made up on bats. We mindmelded on the thing about pushing you early. All the shit you found scummy about him is just you looking at stuff in a bad light like his first battrack on you. If you look at it with no bias it IS possible that the way he explained it was how it happened. I think it is far more likely than he forgot what he wrote in the thread 5 mins prior and decided to say something totally diffferent. The problem is SL can play like this as town I know this. But this is also the reason I gave him a pass last time he was scum. this is just an excuse. So i have a wide range of play? No shit look for small things that make me town. stop being salty about not reading me correctly in the past | ||
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On May 25 2015 15:22 Tictock wrote: SL you are either A) Scum B) Town that cares more about defending themselves at all costs (including lie and spread disinformation) than finding scum B is not ideal, but I'd be ok with it. Thankfully that's not a worry since you are scum. Well im getting lynched by donkeys. Ya I have to not get lynched thats my number one goal as town here. But I also dont want bm or plots and I would prefer a bats lynch but beggers cant be choosers. | ||
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The chance of a mafia talking about a mafia in their first post is insanely small. He was also sucking up to me trying to get me on his side. | ||
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On May 22 2015 12:00 scott31337 wrote: What kind of post is this? You weren't even able to post any original thoughts before you left? that was an attack on plots he started when plots made that horrible opener | ||
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Im vt so whatever its probably better I die today then tormorow no reason to put pressure on the power roles | ||
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On May 25 2015 15:48 Breshke wrote: Really SL? Your a big boy stop giving up since when do you even give up. I kind of want to lynch bunnies more than you now anyway and wish she was posting. I'm happy I've broken your spirit though. ![]() since i got lynched t in a stupid cell game by your donkey ass and my streak got ruined | ||
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On May 25 2015 15:54 Breshke wrote: I agree that the way Scott treats plot is a big point in favour of him being town. It is one of the only things I've gotten from Scott's filter. However tictok raises good points on him and if we dont keep lynching mafia there's only so far a town read based on spreadsheets and Scott being aggressive towards you will last. SL I also have problems with the fact that I'm null to you yet you say I'm pushing you because I'm salty not because I'm scum. So you think I'm town? I didnt say your salty at all. Like at all Like im having a hard time finding scum so im a little suspect but I havent bothered looking into it because your unlyable today is what I said. | ||
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On May 25 2015 16:41 Tictock wrote: Whats you PoE list SL? Last I saw you were scumming exactly 1.5 people. ya well its hard to find scum when no one but the obv towns spam up the thread. I probably have the biggest filter too | ||
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You plot bm maybe? town roles Thats all i got need 1 more i think but roles have not claimed yet so making a poe list is meaningless unlike last game | ||
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On May 24 2015 06:44 27ninjabunnies wrote: We have 15 mins to EOD right? And scott still hasnt shown up. Can anyone give a a semi vote count? shows up just at eod. Thats more likely as mafia then town from my experience | ||
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On May 23 2015 06:18 -Celestial- wrote: Ask and ye shall receive: ~ Vote Count ~ plotspot (2) : Bill Murray, Tictock disformation (2) : Barakos, Breshke scott31337 (2) : Rels, batsnacks Bill Murray (1) : 27ninjabunnies (0) : boxerfred (0) : Breshke (0) : sicklucker (0) : Not voting (6) : 27ninjabunnies, boxerfred, disformation, plotspot, scott31337, sicklucker Currently, plotspot is set to be lynched! The cycle will end at Saturday, May 23 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), about 24 hours from this post. remain as you are reading this. Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in this thread. If you see any vote out of place, holler at us and we will look into it. this is interesting. This is the vote count right before bunnies voted. at the time she voted it was very close so her being in a mafia team makes so much sense I think im voting her today and never changing. On May 23 2015 08:25 27ninjabunnies wrote: Oh, and I think the above post is a great basis for ##Vote:Disformation So we have bunnies being the third vote on disinfo to scotts two votes. At this point of the game it didnt look like scott was the lynch so if shes partners with him getting the vote on the other guy with votes is your only play. ##vote bunnies | ||
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So like who would you rather lynch the person who tried to get the lynch off the confirmed scum or the person who was a hammer vote on a confirmed mafia. This is such an easy decision guys... | ||
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Like you dont have to make 9 page charts to see who the scum would be of the two people. If you guys vote me who hammered mafia then ya aint ready for non newbie games | ||
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On May 25 2015 17:40 Tictock wrote: Guys... this is such amazing play. I have to point it out. + Show Spoiler + First the nonsense... (never happened) On May 25 2015 17:22 sicklucker wrote: bunnies pushing scott makes more sense if shes with both scott and disinfo Followed by a dance of confusion On May 25 2015 17:24 sicklucker wrote: wait bunnies was pushing scott but never voted him. strange? she voted disinfo but you quote where she calls disinfo town yet voted him over a confirmed mafia Next, the all so important dash of truth... On May 25 2015 17:26 sicklucker wrote: so bunnies afks her vote on the second wagon. While still saying scotts a great lynch. Sounds like a likely scott partner tbh On May 25 2015 17:28 sicklucker wrote: shows up just at eod. Thats more likely as mafia then town from my experience And... the Crescendo! On May 25 2015 17:34 sicklucker wrote: this is interesting. This is the vote count right before bunnies voted. at the time she voted it was very close so her being in a mafia team makes so much sense I think im voting her today and never changing. So we have bunnies being the third vote on disinfo to scotts two votes. At this point of the game it didnt look like scott was the lynch so if shes partners with him getting the vote on the other guy with votes is your only play. ##vote bunnies That boys is how you make up a read in 5 minuets... SL you ARE sick lol I cant wait till postgame. I would normally go easy on a new player but this is two games inarow Your a bad tunneler bro. | ||
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game 1- THIS GUY IS SO OBV A MAFIA LOOK AT HIM YOU GUYS ARE SO STUPID - im right about everything game ends I flip village game 2 THIS GUY IS SO OBV A MAFIA LOOK AT HIM YOU GUYS ARE SO STUPID ![]() | ||
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Plots were voting 27ninjabunnies today if your not aware. Ill post it here rather then are mason qt | ||
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On May 25 2015 19:55 batsnacks wrote: SL what do you think of baraka? Maybe something other than that you green checked him. idk why do you think I fake checked him of all people. SO I didnt have to read his filter untill the next day. Procrastination is my game | ||
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On May 25 2015 20:05 boxerfred wrote: Okay I can see that. Also, his usage of smileys really seems to not be based on the intention of a post so I take that as granted. I moved away from the scum lean already anyways but I don't think I'll drop the SK lean. I have to reread the sicklucker things, it's really confusing (since I can only quickscan the thread today until like 7-8 hours from now on). As I understood it, people want to start a train on either sicklucker or bunnies. Having such a clear train for two different persons, started by two different persons, I'd say that the cop actually hit a scum member this night and wants to get that guy lynched without indicating who he himself is. Is that a far fetched theory or could that be the truth? no and thats kind of role hunting bro | ||
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On May 25 2015 20:43 disformation wrote: This part is not entirely true. His read progression on me is: 1) cheap town read. 2) scum after he asks for my reads 3) does his fail vote on me you quoted 4) unvotes / unscums me after skimming my filter and votes scott So that looks legit. The problem I have is: So he would have tried to lynch me (who he previously unscumed)? Though I could have still been null to him or something. Apparently he has some problems figuring me out, which might be the reason for that... I am going to try and figure out all read progressions by sicklucker now... which might take a bit. His filter is really long. ya if i was mafia... but im town thats my whole point. typcically people dont vote on people who didnt vote yet because they get mod killed. If I was with scott I would use this excuse to get you lynched. A 1for 1 trade since scott would get modkilled after. | ||
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If any town jumped on scott for town cred it was bats like I have been saying. He was right after me when it looked like scott was doomed with no explanation. | ||
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On May 26 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote: I think I'll take breshke, batsnacks and tictocs as masons, at least two of them are. Their thoughts and votes seem to go down the same road most of the time. I read a lot of the sicklucker stuff by now but need to dive in deep into the last ~5 pages since I returned home not too long ago and am going to sleep after this post. I'm not too sure if I like the bunnies train since I'm still on the "dis is leaning towards sk" road. Also, I don't get too many of sicklucker's posts, they are kind of confusing and they imply that one needs to be more experienced to fully understand those short sentences in depth. Skimming through disinfo's posts, I don't really see a point from which I would start a train on him. I might be wrong with my lean on him. However, I'd like to clearly know what he thinks about pretty much everyone - especially where he would locate scum members and SK. As I can see from celestial's post, he's currently all about jumping trains, matching the pattern of jumping the scott train before: first, he goes for sicklucker, being the 3rd vote at this point (I did not compare timestamps, so it might be the second vote, note that please!). Then, he changes his vote, being the 4th to jump bunnies. That is not really matching his gameplay of putting pressure on people until a train is started on them. For reference, final vote count of day 1: Going for Sulfuros first, then jumping a train that will most likely kill the guy, thus saving his vote. I'd like to point out that initially, batsnacks and tictoc voted the same on scott rather early, which strengthens my mason theory, putting Breshke on a neutral lean for me. However, both batsnacks and Breshke have a town read for me if I'm right. Coming to a conclusion of my theories, I'd say we have to search for scum members among sulfurus, bill murray and maybe sicklucker (mentioning him since I can see why he's being blamed but I think his posts make sense (if I understand them correctly) and bunnies (for named reasons). I'd locate the SK at disinfo and maybe SL. It's all too wonky at this point. I delayed my vote for a long time last day already, but this time, I'm putting my vote on sicklucker rather early. He's jumping people rather often, voting batsnacks, BM and then bunnies, following batsnacks who he voted upon before. That's three guys, with him, four. Four in a span of a few hours? I take that as a vote that is cast knowing the alignment of at least one of the three guys he voted upon. Given that he unvoted two times, it might very well be that he's a scum member knowing about the identity of a fellow scum member. Which would, following my mason theory, point to bill murray being scum. Not sure how bullet proof that theory is, please fire at it to see how long it holds. ##vote sicklucker it sounds like im your third strongest scum read why do you vote me? its still 24 hours away its not like its only me or bunnies that can get lynched currently | ||
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On May 26 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote: I think I'll take breshke, batsnacks and tictocs as masons, at least two of them are. Their thoughts and votes seem to go down the same road most of the time. I read a lot of the sicklucker stuff by now but need to dive in deep into the last ~5 pages since I returned home not too long ago and am going to sleep after this post. I'm not too sure if I like the bunnies train since I'm still on the "dis is leaning towards sk" road. Also, I don't get too many of sicklucker's posts, they are kind of confusing and they imply that one needs to be more experienced to fully understand those short sentences in depth. Skimming through disinfo's posts, I don't really see a point from which I would start a train on him. I might be wrong with my lean on him. However, I'd like to clearly know what he thinks about pretty much everyone - especially where he would locate scum members and SK. As I can see from celestial's post, he's currently all about jumping trains, matching the pattern of jumping the scott train before: first, he goes for sicklucker, being the 3rd vote at this point (I did not compare timestamps, so it might be the second vote, note that please!). Then, he changes his vote, being the 4th to jump bunnies. That is not really matching his gameplay of putting pressure on people until a train is started on them. For reference, final vote count of day 1: Going for Sulfuros first, then jumping a train that will most likely kill the guy, thus saving his vote. I'd like to point out that initially, batsnacks and tictoc voted the same on scott rather early, which strengthens my mason theory, putting Breshke on a neutral lean for me. However, both batsnacks and Breshke have a town read for me if I'm right. Coming to a conclusion of my theories, I'd say we have to search for scum members among sulfurus, bill murray and maybe sicklucker (mentioning him since I can see why he's being blamed but I think his posts make sense (if I understand them correctly) and bunnies (for named reasons). I'd locate the SK at disinfo and maybe SL. It's all too wonky at this point. I delayed my vote for a long time last day already, but this time, I'm putting my vote on sicklucker rather early. He's jumping people rather often, voting batsnacks, BM and then bunnies, following batsnacks who he voted upon before. That's three guys, with him, four. Four in a span of a few hours? I take that as a vote that is cast knowing the alignment of at least one of the three guys he voted upon. Given that he unvoted two times, it might very well be that he's a scum member knowing about the identity of a fellow scum member. Which would, following my mason theory, point to bill murray being scum. Not sure how bullet proof that theory is, please fire at it to see how long it holds. ##vote sicklucker thats like a huge town tell and a pretty shitty reason to vote someone. Mafia and especially me as mafia are more precise with their votes and dont flop around that much changing their mind. | ||
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On May 24 2015 18:41 Barakos wrote: The votes on scott mean just about nothing. 27nb asked if people thought there was mafia voting for scott shortly before eod... there sure was. People said scott rolled mafia in several of his newbie-games and wasn't very happy about this, so I am pretty sure his scum-partners in the qt knew this, too. So there might very well have been plans about voting him, if it becomes apparent, he will not return to the thread. Him not returning and posting as less as possible might even have been the plan right from the start. Which is also why what bm said about scotts post making him look good is complete bs since this might as well have been a planned breadcrumbing, which a scum-bm could later on use by saying "look, he tried to make me look bad and he was mafia, so i must be town". Just look at the scum-qt of assassination-mafia. bm is perfectly capable of hatching such a plan and scott - already not excited about having rolled scum - would have happily followed, since he wouldn't let his team completely hanging. I guess all i am saying is, that we can't really interpret anything into scotts posts, because him leaving the thread and giving up is most likely a thing, he discussed with his teammates, so there surely was a plan about how he should behave in the few posts he made, which is why everything he said could be interpreted one way or the other. you dont say? ty for that qt info | ||
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On May 26 2015 09:31 Breshke wrote: Can you pls read stuff. It says SK can hold their shot if they want to. You cant 100% rule it out I read that but its not a very smart thing to do because it can make the game last 1 day longer. Watching 3 newbies call me the sk when theres like a 5% chance theres one in the game is pretty annoying. | ||
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but we have to presure these 2 1 page filter new players too or this game will never go anywhere. Were not voting me today you baddies | ||
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On May 23 2015 20:09 sicklucker wrote: God scott has 3 posts. why do you do this scott? we pretty much just have to vote you On May 23 2015 20:16 sicklucker wrote: ##unvote ##vote scott Ya whatever. On a quick reread disinfo filter is not really bad. No way we cant kill scott here. I think a policy lynch is fine I have no high percentage flips in my mind Hi guys this means im town. I had every incentive in the world to ignore scott who had 2 votes. My vote was already on the counterwagon. Im literally the reason we lynched mafia yesterday... Lets vote the guy who has the biggest filter and killed mafia. I know this is a newbie game but how am I the only one frusterated with this? I cant even get one defender ? | ||
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Sicklucker 13 pages of filter was the most important vote on mafia sulp 1 page filter wasted his vote Bunnies 2 page filter her vote put disinfo in the lead to get lynched barakos 2 page filter started the disinfo wagon Who is the most likely to be town in this group of players? Notice all 3 are voting me or probably going to vote me as well | ||
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On May 26 2015 14:57 Tictock wrote: SL I just want you to stop making shit up. I've proven your doing it time and again. It's terrible for town. If lynching you is the only way to get you to do this, then so be it. I honestly don't even care if you flip green, it will just mean town can finally focus on scum I didnt make anything up... You see me changing my mind as making shit up but thats called changing your fucking mind | ||
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On May 26 2015 14:59 Breshke wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Sicklucker K beb This game isn't even toxic i don't know what your problem is like this is not playing to win. | ||
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On May 26 2015 15:42 27ninjabunnies wrote: So is anyone actually trying to figure this game out, or nah? not you thats for sure got anything else? | ||
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On May 26 2015 21:34 Tictock wrote: Ok last post about SK kus yes we are getting distracted. So let me just make sure everyone remembers how SK works this game. This is from the SK role PM. let me explain how to play sk. If towns already killed 1 mafia you dont fucking hold your shot. Mafias losing so you help them out by killing a obv town. As a sk your goal is to kill everyone so holding your shot is always bad. This acualy eliminates experienced players from being the sk if there is one. If there is an sk its going to be one of the new players. Those are also the people spamming that theirs an sk that could be tmi. | ||
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On May 26 2015 21:39 Barakos wrote: So sl... any reaction to my case on you? not rly its garbage. Ill figure out if your bad or scum after bunnie flips | ||
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He trys to paint himself in a towny light with the most absurd reasons, like the votecount for example. He puts himself in the spot of a town hero by saying it was his vote and him persuading batsnacks to vote scott that finally swung the vote to lynch scott and not disformation, and when he is confronted with a reasonable arguement, that invalidates this arguement (my post that those votes may very well have been preplanned), his reaction is "lol you know, what mafia says in their qt? you are mafia!" Why are you putting scum on me for that its true? Like you cant even this fact wtf | ||
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On May 26 2015 20:54 boxerfred wrote: Well reading tics and bats last posts I come to the conclusion that we simply hang bunnies, vig kill SL and if no vig kill happens, SL is the SK? I feel like I'm missing something. No im just town. Like very obvious town. Feel free to reread any of my past town games | ||
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On May 26 2015 21:51 Barakos wrote: It's literally in the next paragraph... You either suck at reading and miss, that i am not suspecting you, because you are tryharding to paint yourself green but because of the way you argue about it, or you just want to missunderstand and not answer to the intended point of this paragraph, saying you look shit for having double-standarts and only are paranoid / think critical, when it fits your agenda. Your specifically arguing that being the 4th vote on a mafia does not suggest im town in the slightest. | ||
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Were still killing bunnies next. She should already be dead its not like her defense was very good she just got a free life out of bm. Like if I were mafia I would have got the lynch on bill murray too. Its not very hard to do but instead I tried for bunnies and barakos | ||
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On May 23 2015 06:13 disformation wrote: I think there are two votes on me. Barakos and Breshkia. Okay... list post time. *ugh* I will keep this short, if you want to know more details and why, please ask. ![]() top town: rels, ticktock town lean: breshkia, batsnacks please start doing stuff soon: plotspot, scott scum lean: sulfurus (until he answers my question at least), BM (super defensive and aggressive when Sulfurus voted on him) rethinking: bunnies: scum lean (hence the case) -> slight town lean of the answers -> rethinking right now (was probably to easily swayed) barakos: he is a bit tunnely towards me, but that is okay, need to look at his other reads/interactions sicklucker: you are trying a lot harder than last game, not sure if that is a good or bad sign for you, so I have you kinda nullish. Your current interactions with me make me lean town towards you. boxerfred: not sure if new scum or new town one of the rethinkers right? boxer and me are less likely mafia for not voting bm.That leaves just barakos maybe bats as his partners. Not sure if he pushes his partner bunnies but its possible | ||
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On May 27 2015 16:02 sicklucker wrote: Barakos why didnt you vote bill murray? You said in thread you didnt want bunnies lynched. SO why didnt you vote bill murray? Bunnies was one vote away from dying? Why waste your vote on me? barakos a qeustion for you | ||
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On May 27 2015 16:39 Barakos wrote: Same reason I didn't vote for scott D1 Explained it in the same post i said i didn't like lynching bunnies. In my first (and up till now only) game here, i won as mafia because town lynched all the inactives first while I was one of the three most active players and got a pass till lylo, where all I had to do was chose the right one to hammer the last vote and win... I basically had a free pass till end of game, because every lynch was on the inactives. So I think - and my experience backs me up on this - that lynching inactives is just an easy way for mafia to gett further into the game and towards mylo/lylo. Ask breshke, he was in that game as well. Thats a pretty wissshy washy answer. For one bm was more inactive then bunnies. And realistcly if you dont lynched inactives that is pro mafia because it leaves inactives around for end of game lynches. Now that bm flipped town do you not see the logic I was providing that explained why he was town? Can you link us to your scum game | ||
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On May 27 2015 16:53 boxerfred wrote: That would explain the no vigi/no sk kill in night 1, wouldn't it? only if theres 2kp tonight. And even then theres other possiblitys. (held shot) Thinking about a sk is pointless because its so unlikely | ||
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On May 27 2015 16:51 boxerfred wrote: Your logic is flawed: if 27nb and BM are both town, the vote on bunnies is not containing any proof for the voters being townies. I hate to potentially put a bad light on myself but that's how it is. not at all townies shouldnt care. They should want there vote to matter the most and influence the game the most in who they think is mafia. Not hide behind wasted votes | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/464494-newbie-lviii-disney-princess-mafia?user=Barakos Havent read it yet but lots of big posts so its in his range ;p | ||
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On May 27 2015 17:25 Barakos wrote: Of course you wouldn't want to go into lylo with someone, who has almost no filter, so at some point, you would have to start lynching into them, sure... but as long as there are valid other suspects and there is enough time, I don't see the point in lynching into them. Especially if you already caught one. (Not thanks to me, but our first lynch was scum, so how high are the odds of 2 out of 3 scum being this inactive?) pretty high... when one of your mafia team mates gives up day 1 for no reason your gonna not try very hard as mafia.. | ||
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On May 28 2015 07:46 disformation wrote: cop is also the best role to claim for mafia in this situation, imo. if they needed two lynches its a great fakecalim, You kill sulf today then kill me the next day and you win if its like bats/bunnies or bats/barkos But they need 3 | ||
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On May 25 2015 08:37 sicklucker wrote: also I think its fairly obv theres masons in the game and i know who you are. If i was mafia id kill you also tictoc is probably mason. Breskes sheer overconfidence made me think he was a role and something else that was probably bad logic made me think he was a mason, I posted that after the n1 kill. After that breske stoped trying to kill me so much and basically claimed in thread im sure mafia noticed it rip | ||
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On May 28 2015 13:43 Tictock wrote: Ok I skimmed from EoN till now, there's a lot to think about and some stuff I want to look into. First things first, farewell to Breshke one of our town masons. 2nd off, I really don't think town RB should claim, maybe I'm wrong here but wouldn't Town RB be the strongest role in a cop, mason, RB town setup? Town RB claiming will make them a sure fire target tonight, seems to me town RB will want to hold off claiming as long as possible to avoid being NK'd and allowing potential blocks of NKs. Masons seem like a weakish role. I don't see much reason why the remaining mason shouldn't claim as it will help confirm one more town. I notice SL and Dis are expecting me to claim mason. Honestly though, I feel like if I were a role wouldn't I be in the best position to not claim? Like most people are reading me as town anyway, if I were to claim a role it wouldn't really narrow things down at the moment. Also, why the hell is plots trying to No Lynch? yes you claim. esp as a town rber because it makes bats claim look like dog shit and probably mafia. Like bats can do this as mafia and a 2 mason + town rb + cop setup is 1 too many power role so ones lying | ||
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On May 28 2015 20:54 batsnacks wrote: SL plot thinks you're the town rb. Please tell him you're not he won't listen to me. im not splots it was jokes | ||
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WHY IS THERE 3/4 TOWN POWEROLES WTF MAKES NO SENSE | ||
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On May 28 2015 21:19 Tictock wrote: Plots confirmed Crazy Cat Lady role? You really need to get a handle on yourself man. I think its called lolcatting. + Show Spoiler + joking around when you have given up trolling town as mafia | ||
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Like theres too many roles but we cant really start suspecting bats untill he dies in the night. And iif mafia chooses not to kill him to push that story we at least get his checks. Even tho bunnies is green checked I also see here as mafia in both worlds. If bats is fakeclaiming its to protect bunnies most likely. Bunnies and sulf makes alot of sense. | ||
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##unvote ##vote bunnies so my logic here is im a little suspect of bats claim now. But if bats is real theres certainly a god father in the game to help balance this absurd number of roles. I think that makes bunnie the god father. I think bunnies is the safe lynch in both worlds. Random thought. If barkos really was rbed that makes him close to confirmed town because he might have delivered the kp | ||
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On May 28 2015 21:43 plotspot wrote: And I already explained why an RB, Mason and Cop is fair to Mafia RB, Mafia Godfather and Mafia Goon. Scumteam Tictock Sulfurus just had bad luck that we just hit Barakos (both me and Bats), Rels (me) and 27ninja. Or is there any doubt to whether 27ninja might be Godfather? Her cluelessness simply makes it extremely unlikely. You even see now that Tictock tries hard to deflect from voting for Sulfurus for whatever reason you want. And I posted a post about Sulfurus just somewhere above that gives her away as Mafia, especially if you know the setup now. because your so experienced with mafia setups right? | ||
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On May 28 2015 21:37 plotspot wrote: Bats is cop, why should he ninja-hint Barakos at the last minute of N2. It's not plausible or do you think Bats is capaple of doing that? easily if bats is mafia he had already decided to claim. His first post after the nk was his claim | ||
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On May 28 2015 22:10 plotspot wrote: No I didn't, you remember the post where I ask bunny to go out and give her gut read and said I thought you were town? It was just when batsnacks claimed cop along with all his checks that I slowly crept on the thought that you are scum. And the town elimination thing just supports this: Bats = cops Bunny = town Barakos = town plotspot = RB Breshke = Mason disformation = town boxerfred = Mason --- there are two people left = you and Sulfurus. I rechecked the filters and you it would fit that you and Sulfu and scott are scum trio. wronggg | ||
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On May 29 2015 02:03 batsnacks wrote: I think I'm just going to assume all the claims are legit. I'm the cop, Tiktok is the mason, plot is the rb. All town. I think it's too dangerous for mafia to claim mason and risk getting cced if there is another mason in the game. Tiktok is probably the mason. I think the way plot claimed is too insane to be mafia. I don't think mafia completely loses their shit and makes a huge scene like that. So there must be a gf, meaning my checks are less useful. If bunnies is the gf then her partner probably voted Bill Murray to save her, which sulfur didn't. Which is curious. who does that leave. Altho sulf didnt vote to save her. He didnt vote against her he wasted his vote if i recall correctly. He simply could have been waiting to see if bunnies needed his vote to survive and if so use it | ||
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On May 29 2015 03:09 batsnacks wrote: Yeah. Also, in sulfur's "reasons" post he said he would have been happy if either bill or bunnies got lynched, so it's strange how his vote wound up on neither of them. So maybe you're right. Either way I think he's a better lynch than 27nb today. If all the claims are legit were left with barakos, SL, bunnies, disinfo, sulfur. I think at most 1 of barakos/27nb can be mafia because of the green checks. barakos is probably just town because he got roleblocked and kp went through. at least decreased | ||
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On May 30 2015 02:06 27ninjabunnies wrote: Lol, i dont care about the scott flip. Scott did nthing to help us find the other two mafia. We have no reads based on that except for voting and probably high bussing. Im going off of what i know. How is that not original? I was reading Sulfurus town day 1. Many people have been calling me scummy for this, but i am reevaluating my read. I gave what I have already. I said we dont lynch any of the claimed roles, and we dont lynch the greenchecks. The greencheck on the other person that was checked could very well be real, and i know the greencheck on me is real because i am town. yes i do his filter confirmed me/bm and plots. Then you guys went and lynched bm | ||
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On May 30 2015 02:20 boxerfred wrote: How likely is it to have only one mason in the setup? Tictok's tunneling way too hard IMHO. However I still think he's the second mason but I want to point out every possibility. breske would have let us no 0% chance theres only 1 mason | ||
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On May 30 2015 02:23 batsnacks wrote: So push SL or disinfo or barakos... Here's a good place to start: SL likes to drop off in activity once he's safe as mafia. this is true. BUt I also do it when my two scum reads that are out of my poe list are the people with votes ;p (bunnies sulf) | ||
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Me Bats Tictock plots? barakos? We need 5. putting both plots and barkos in the same list might be risky because there never less likely the same alignment because one roleblocked the other | ||
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On May 30 2015 02:31 27ninjabunnies wrote: How did is filter cocnfirm any of that? Its easily possible to bus in this setup. It's honestly stupid, but it is easy. dDidnt he call me mafia too? So does that confirm me? nope get mad about it. His first post was him trying to get on my good side. His second post was pushing plots.His third post was pushing bm. 3 towns spewed by a 3 post mafia. | ||
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On May 30 2015 05:14 batsnacks wrote: Voting my green check feels dumb as hell. Like I checked bunnies so that I wouldn't have to deal with this but here I am anyway dealing with it. wouldnt it be epic if we were right and found mafia tho? | ||
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On May 30 2015 05:16 boxerfred wrote: so is anyone going to make a case on SL now? you cant just make up a case. Theres either a case or there isint. | ||
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On May 22 2015 10:24 Sulfurus wrote: @sicklucker is it not normal for the mafia QT to be open during pregame b/c if it is you shouldn't have made that dumbtell also ##Vote: Breshke interesting his first post is to tell me that the qt has been open for 24hours. Either hes mafia or he read the op fairly well pregame | ||
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On May 29 2015 12:38 Sulfurus wrote: @27nb How can you recommend me as a good cop check N1 when had me as town up untill D2 (which also happens to be the day I first put you on my scum list)? Honestly I am starting to really like the world where NinjaBunnies the GF attempted to pocket on D1 to get more votes for he mislynches. Looking at that post again she also recommended that Breske be checked even though she apperently townread him since D1. How was she planning on getting any information from that? can someone bring up the quote where bunnies asks breske to be checked? About to vote sulp i think | ||
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On May 23 2015 08:56 27ninjabunnies wrote: I see me giving a read on sulfurus, but has sulfurus actually given a read on me? *Reads sulfurus filter* Nope So not sure how you can see a connection, except a one sided connection. Top newbie read- he was a newbie, commented on a question I asked, and his answer seemed genuine at the time disinfo called out as a team early. She defended hard lol. But if they are a team why didnt they concede yet? | ||
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You rb bats. If hes a real cop mafia will kill him who cares no harm done you miss your 1/10 shot. But if hes fake claiming ( he pushed a lynch off bunnies twice) then he will100% deliver the kp | ||
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If I die you kill bats immediately. As unlikely as it may sound. If bats is fake claiming his play here is to kill someone skeptical and knowledgeable like me and push a lynch on plots as a fake | ||
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That leaves me/dis/boxer as the only other lynches if we decide to leave the green checks for later. I know im town so from my pov Im pretty sure at least one of you two are mafia and it could even be both of you if bunnies town. | ||
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On May 31 2015 07:28 27ninjabunnies wrote: Okay, I want to look at the world where there are two mafia roleblockers. Everyone tell me what your thoughts are on this, and if it's possible? Because that was the stupidest play there plots could have ever made if he was town. You don't RB the cop unless you are mafia, or you are 100% sure he is mafia with a fake claim. Neither of those plots had voiced. Roleblocking the cop does nothing to confirm anything. if bats was fakelcaiming he would have stopped kp and won the game. rb mafia is a pretty low chance. So eliminating that world is fine. If anyone was going to fake claim in this game it was going to be bats. | ||
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Tictoc is an uncced mason (lolz) and plots has done crazy things that very few if any people would do as mafia. Like if his plan is to confuse the hell out of us and fakedumbtells as a first time player then I will gladly give him the win. But dumbtells are a thing especially in first/second time players. | ||
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On May 31 2015 07:38 Barakos wrote: you don't deal with tictock... if he tries to lynch you again, just ignore him... I'll do the same. Focus on important stuff and get your mind on the guys, that actually could be mafia. If tictock actually starts this bs again, we just make sl fight him. this altho plz not me ![]() | ||
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On May 31 2015 06:57 Barakos wrote: don't block tictock.. he is like the only confirmed town besides you. potential mafia at this point are bunnies, disfo, boxer, sl. (bats too, but blocking him seems pointless, cause he is most likely killed tonight, if he is actually cop) If I were you, I'd pick one of those. Not saying anything more. ^^ Someone said pick someone, who seems towny, cause this might make for a surprise... or pick the most scummy, caus mafia might suspect you to pick someone town.. just please block out of the 4 names. i dont think a mafia ever tells a town pr to waste his power. Town points | ||
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On May 31 2015 07:53 plotspot wrote: I don't know anymore, what makes sense? I feel like I jump from one tunnel to another. I could also go on the SL tunnel, then it's like he is the mastermind knowing Bats is cops and persuaded me to put my block on him, so I am guaranteed to miss my RB, and cannot even prove my block anymore. The same thing goes for the Barakos tunnel, I pointed it out last night. But that's so crazy. If we believe Tictock is Mason. Then we have bunnies, boxerfred and disformation left as mafia. That's all. if my play was to make you waste your block so you can become confirmed. Why am I calling you confirmed town here | ||
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On May 31 2015 08:23 boxerfred wrote: Flawed logic. Tictocks: "please block me, I trust myself." Tictocks gets killed. Tictocks: "please block SL, I trust him." SL gets killed. So..? ##vote boxerfred Stop trying to light the fire. Were a plots/tictoc reconciliation away from winning the game. All plots has to do is roleblock you disinfo or bunnies. If mafia kills them thats great for us. If he doesint and hes mafia hes claiming mafia | ||
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On May 31 2015 08:31 plotspot wrote: they target me tonight and I'll die more likelier if we don't find one of the mafias left. I will sure to leave a note. hum thats right if you leave a note and stop kp we can get a confirmed mafia. Hum not sure | ||
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On May 31 2015 07:38 boxerfred wrote: Wait, this is my list from D2. I started the Dis/SL/bunnies stuff when everyone was on Sulf. Can you explain to me how the RB that you had on to you speaks for you not being GF? for now, too: ##vote: disformation On May 31 2015 08:37 boxerfred wrote: I'd love to know whether you didn't see the flawed logic or chose to ignore it. You're strengthening ticktocks case by that. Okay, so we have tic's huge case, explaining why Barakos and Plots are the GF pair - and we have the other case, where bunnies is GF and one of me, dis, sl is scum and where plots is the RB. (3rd possibility: GF + GF + RB setup which is not likely I guess since its the only scenario that would not include one scum member in between the three guys) So it comes down to Barakos and bunnies. If we lynch Barakos and he flips red, we pretty much have plots as the remaining scum member, eliminating chances. If we lynch bunnies and she flips red, we're down to three guys with one scum member on them. Those three guys are disinformation, sicklucker and myself. I'd go for lynching between the two. It's a 50% chance. True. That makes me feel like we should start with voting bunnies. Which I try to do since D2. I'm not lighting any fire (as you can see from my post). I'm reasoning. ##unvote ##vote 27ninjabunnies almost 2am here. good night. You vote the two other dudes. Then when I vote you your saying im the mafia, Ya ok | ||
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On May 31 2015 08:39 boxerfred wrote: If I had to bet money on solving the game, I'd say 27nb as GF and SL or Dis as goon. Having a tendency towards SL by now. IM THE MAFIA BUT YOU VOTE THE OTHER TWO hummmm | ||
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On June 01 2015 03:17 Tictock wrote: @ Dis Do you really think I'm just tunneled here? My case has nothing of value? I feel like I'm talking to people with hands over their ears. no your case has no value. If they are mafia its not for the reasons you state. Everyones telling you your wrong you should listen | ||
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On June 01 2015 21:05 disformation wrote: Was thinking about that a bit, too. The same would apply to sicklucker. Which would mean 27ninjabunnies and me would be the mafia team. Which is unfortunately impossible as my role pm says otherwise. So it is also very possible that one of these two (sicklucker, boxerfred) was trying to bus bunnies for town cred in case she gets lynched. So that is a bit WIFOM. As explained above sicklucker+27ninjabunnies could also be a thing. But unflipped associations are not really helpful right now. I voted and pushed bunnies twice. unflipped associations are really helpful now with 3-4 potential mafia. I wish more people would use them like barkos (altho correctly) so I dont have to do the work in the next 5 hours | ||
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On June 02 2015 00:40 27ninjabunnies wrote: So. By POE- mafia are BF and SL. I think those would be great lynches. I also really want to sheep ticktock and vote plots... because fuck plots for making absolutely horrible roleblocks. I am currently voting bf. Try again | ||
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Bf was doing nothing and being distubtive to town for no reason early so I voted him. Now the other two are voting him. So I have to figure out if hes town or one is bussing him for cred | ||
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On June 02 2015 01:15 Tictock wrote: I really don't know how I can prove to you guys that I'm not just tunneled here. I've thought this thing out, it makes sense. That's why I'm so focused on it. In case you need a reminder and don't want to do more filter diving, here is all my posts today related to my cases. I really was hoping to see people at least giving me arguments why I could be wrong. Instead I just see people being afraid to check if a blue claim was false, and not being able to check if a Greencheck was false. Again I'm not talking about flips here, I'm talking about inconsistencies in peoples play. Main Case (plots and Bara) + Show Spoiler + On May 31 2015 08:02 Tictock wrote: Ok guys, I know you thought Crazy Tunneltoc had finally given up and was sulking somewhere in defeat or something. But you can never vanquish the Tunneltoc! I'm back and ready to blow your minds. I have no way to prove this, so it's really just for my own amusement, but I prepared these posts with the intent on putting them up more or less after D4 starts. Some predictions: + Show Spoiler + -plots and Bara have been pointing fingers at me for having given up since my "plot" (get it) didn't work -prob some accusations that I'm not even a Mason and that Bre was solo -plots RB was on Bats or myself, really it could be anyone though. I'm pretty sure plots RBs the kill target here, but really all plots has to do here is say that the person he RB'd is scum when they say they weren't -Idea is to have the whole D4 revolve around this argument. Remember, it doesn't matter if plots gets lynched as long as it happens in such a way to secure towncred for Bara Obv scum killed Bats. If they killed anyone else it was to protect plots RB claim. Can't see them leaving bats though, I'm sure he was trying to check plots N3 and they can't have that. Honestly I can't imagine town staying fooled by this after I pointed everything out before EoD, but I'd rather not drag things out anymore. So here I am unveiling my case. This will be a multi-post case, so be warned. I may leave a summary post depending on how long this gets or how motivated I stay. Main Points -Plots is scum. This is a short version of my scumread on him, but I'll expand on it.+ Show Spoiler + He's been Tryharding this whole game but never brings anything of worth to the game. D1 it's all the graphics. D2 defending SL from Me and getting all buddy buddy. He also blows up over nothing (claims I misunderstood a post) attacking my reading ability & fabricating all sorts of ways I'm not reading him right. He does all that instead of restating his thoughts like I ask him to. D3 total tunnel on me, is 100% convinced he can make me look like shit kus he doesn't think I'm mason (for some reason he's really sure he picked up Mason on BF). When that doesn't work he falls back on Sul but keeps pushing me. -Plots fabricates a 2nd RB role. He uses my own mistake of bringing up setup speculation to his teams advantage. -Setup is really RB, Goon, GF vs Masons(2) & Cop. This is a balanced setup and perfectly normal in a newbie game. -This RB invention isn't a solid idea until D2, which is why plots claims it then to "soft claim" his role. -Bara has to be N2 RB so that they can push this idea, AND! it gives them both instant towncred enough to force town to mislynch D3. -Scum plan going forward is to have Plots keep sticking his neck out and causing as much confusion as possible. Plots is expendable as long as he creates a good smokescreen for Bara. While Bara is safe to hold back and blend. At this point Bara can just keep sheeping town like he did D3, his cred is that solid as long as there isn't anyone crazy enough to thing a blue claim could be false and push it... Filter Dive on Plots + Show Spoiler + On May 31 2015 08:03 Tictock wrote: You guys didn't like my suspicions of plots. I don't blame you, I know I've gone overboard in many ways this game. That tunnel on SL, the proposition of SK being a thing when I clearly didn't understand what the goals of the role was. Maybe I have been tunneled on plots, but you know the saying "Being paranoid does not mean your wrong" Let me walk you through plots play, as I see it. Indulge my thinking for just a little bit please, try it on for size. If you don't like it feel free to say so but it had better be more than just attacks on my character or ability. You have to target my reasoning here. Going mild on the quotes here, or at least I started out trying to go mild >.< Do your own Fing reading if you want to verify every little point I make. Also this got Big really fast. Spoilered to keep thread readable. + Show Spoiler + Plots if you recall, starts this game seeming to have forgotten he was playing. He then returns to the game so ready to go that he does some crazy spreadsheeting of everyone's posts. These look impressive, like they took a lot of time. In fact they took so much time plots is never able to do full reads on everyone. Finally D2 he finishes his analysis of D1 and posts all the results, along with helpful instructions on how to use the charts. That's a lot of work right? Like it really is impressive... but how likely is it to really give meaningful information? Plots used his analysis in detail in his reads D1, which only had the first 6? hours of the game involved (he posted these about MidDay btw). But look at his reads AFTER he finished his analysis, he posted them here just a little after he give us his finished charts. Huh, he sure doesn't use much of anything from the charts does he? Almost like he doesn't believe they are useful either. All that work, he doesn't even try to make a full set of reads on everybody from them? Plots then goes pretty carefree, like he's done his job. He has. Nobody, well almost nobody, would dare scum read someone with all that work under his belt. So he starts chatting with SL, being all jokey and chummy. A decent pocket attempt if i ever have seen one (I think it's actually my first ^.^), SL has been under constant pressure and def needs a friend at this point in the game. That is also likely why plots has been weakly townreading SL the whole game. This point always stood out to me as odd. Sl is a very hard player to read, especially early on. If plots is as tryhard noob as he looks from the charts, how is he SO sure SL is town? Here is where things start to get interesting. I blunder in, super scumming plots over this interaction with SL. Clearly my attention is focused on SL at this point, but the fact that I call out his pocket attempt is bad for plots. So he decides to try and undermine my townyness. Do note at this point plots had only posted 2 reads on me, one null and one as clear town. Plots starts to get super mad at my points against him. I first call him out for his read on Rels. Remember that? The first thing plots did D2 was give a full paragraph scum read on the guy who just flipped green. His reasoning, well I was working on this, might as well finish it and post it, shows people I'm trying. Why would town post a read like this after a flip? It adds nothing to be discussed, it wastes space, it gives slim towncred, and it's downright weird. Now I definitely read all plots posts here a few times already. While there are a few places where plots is right and I did misread his posts. + Show Spoiler + Honest question, who finds plots posts easy to read? Other stuff is going on in his filter right now as well. He gives a read on SL and 27nb. The reas on SL is not bad actually, plots gives lots of reasoning and takes into consideration other opinions, odd though that he now thinks SL is shifty when plots has been claiming he's pretty town up till now. His read ends with a bunch of questions, which plots later claims were trying to get people to think SL might be a role. His read on 27nb is total crap on the other hand. It is just sheeping everyone else's opinion. Yet plots is willing to vote 27nb, and then later swap to BM for no reason other than BM voting 27nb. Still, after the initial case I post, I do start to make efforts to talk to plots. I ask him to give details to backup his claims/defense, admit I might have been jumping the gun, and even admit that maybe I am just misunderstanding him. In this last point I especially admit, I mean it's really easy to have a misunderstanding. So there was a break in our exchanges and that let him get out those reads. Late in the day, I post about more things I don't like about plots. Again plots gets super defensive, this time really attacking my ability to read. The post that really stood out to me in this exchange was this one. That post is a bunch of garbled nonsense. The point of it is to suggest several different ways that I MUST have been misreading plots and is largely putting words into my mouth. Why does plots go through all this effort? Why not just tell me what he really meant not what I'm misreading from his post. I think hes trying to slander me, make me appear to be as unreliable as he can. This covers up to N2 and is less than Half! plots filter. N2 starts somewhere just after pg 4 in plots filter. Plots now decides to put out his RB claim, well he claims that HE was RB's N1. This is later said to be a "soft claim" for his RB role. In fact right after plots says he got RB'd he start talking about it like it HAD to have come from town. At first this looks strange, though it does fit with him later claiming RB. After this though, plots really starts to focus on me. He blows up once again about our misunderstanding (I did push him in not the most diplomatic way) but even though I'm CLEARLY asking him to clear things up, he posts this which is largely just what he already posted. Page 5 of plots filter starts with him responding to me answering his questions to me. He basically just calls me dumb and says I have no way to know that SL isn't a role. I had reached this conclusion on my own, however Bre helped me solidify it. Feel free to ask me why I thought this later, this post is big enough. Shortly after that Plots starts his spam posting for the day. Some of the tunnel on me starts, but breaks off to throw out some stuff about roles and keeps doing this Nolynch crap for literally no reason. The whole way Plots claims his role is a little weird. He doesn't come out with it, he slowly teases it, as though he's giving town some great secret. He also uses this to try and be "secretive" about his motives for RBing who he did. He does eventually offer this, On May 28 2015 21:36 plotspot wrote: I RBed Rels, but she died that night. Remember that I scumread her. I even said I would have shot her if I was vig. So I claimed that I was RBed by a roleblocker N2 to tell town that we have a RB, but there wasn't any discussion worthwhile about it, you also didn't see me press the issue there. What an odd choice to RB N1. Sure, ok Plots did scumread Rels and mentioned the Vig thing here, On May 25 2015 07:10 plotspot wrote: How do you know Rels wasn't Vig shot? I was about to make a case on scumreading him hard for the following points I prepared: Rels: referring too much to others opinion, reading thread very carefully, the way RELS sets up lynch is also very comfortable (like lynch inactives), giving orders to others, thanks my post but posts no further thoughts, in comparison to Disinformation who displays overall anxiety in his reads and thoughts, Rels looks like he can handle any sudden change, there is nothing clouding his mind, others apparently have to do more than Rels, you bet if I was Vig I would have shot her. Another odd post. First how in the hell does Plots think a Vig shot Rels, because plots would if he were vig? He is also so sure Rels is scum here, but are his reasons good? And... wait this is right at start of D2, before plots has even finished his charts... but I see no evidence of him using his charts in this read once again... Would a Town RB, who spends all D1 making charts on activity, use this reasoning to block Rels? Well THIS plots doesnt, rather than use the tool he's spent so much time making he throws out these NAI points about Rels to scum her and say she was a good target here. Still not convinced plots RB claim doesn't hold up? What about his N2 target, Barakos? Well as Dis points out in this post On May 28 2015 22:58 disformation wrote: That is basically the only mention of barakos in your filter... Why the fuck would you roleblock a null/town read over a scum read? Plots has only been town or nullreading Bara all game. I think plots reasons for his RB's is very much a good thing to be looking at. I spent a fair portion of D3 asking plots why Bara was his 2nd RB. He only ever mentions his RB on bara in these 2 posts one is his super weak answer to my question. On May 28 2015 21:58 plotspot wrote: Of course I RBed Rels and Barakos. Barakos non-chalantly mentions he has been RBed? Lol if he was mafia I believe he should hang out in the thread a bit instead of expressing it like this. On May 28 2015 22:48 plotspot wrote: I couldn't read him that well. While I said he was town earlier, I had my doubts internally and not published. I wonder why batsnacks thought the same? (he technically mentions the Bara RB in other posts as well, but they are just like that first quote. "Bara's RB claim proves I'm RB guys!" Now plots does post this On May 29 2015 00:38 plotspot wrote: Also it's impossible for a mafia to think of such a ploy. He would risk his fucking life making up being RB, when he didn't even know there was one. Guess what would happen to mafia if he makes up such a ploy, saying he was RB N1? I would crush him. It's too dangerous, no mafia will ever do that. I on the other hand could because only I knew I targeted Rels and "luckily" she died for that ploy to work. Imagine if I was to RB someone and he survives that Night. It would make this ploy impossible, it would have led to a fucking mess which mafia will have ultimately used to force me out. Which is true, and a valid point. Why would scum invent such a play? What does it benefit them? I will attempt to explain the scum logic here in another post, for now this is actually a good point. This does bring me to the one point that would destroy my theory. If there is a 3rd person who gets RB's then I'm absolutely wrong here. Starting here plots starts to push numbers to explain why votes should go certain ways. He also starts to bring back the possibility of me and Sul being the scum team. He is also continuing to post setup speculations, keeping them broad and only suggests more "oddball" setups. Towards EoD plots does more numbers to push votes on Sul, these make no sense though and are really just put out to keep town unsure of what is the best play. There is more in the filter, but it is more recent and this has ballooned to be an epic wall of text. Hopefully I've made my points clear. Detailed look at how this Play makes sense from scum + Show Spoiler + On May 31 2015 08:03 Tictock wrote: Whew, still with me? At this point I want to point out that a NORMAL newbie setup is most likely, regardless of anything that has been said this game it is very unlikely that a bizarre setup would be used in a newbie game. At the time of me writing this Bre is the only confirmed Blue role, Bats will probably have been killed and confirmed Cop so D4 is going to be all about plots vs me. Mason vs Town RB, which role makes more sense? I propose that our game is setup like so: RB, Goon, and GF vs Masons & Cop Plots claim for RB is fake, and I poked holes in his claim in my last post. Ok now lets talk about how what I'm suggesting makes sense from a scum perspective as this may not look like a good play at first. - The Scum play D3 - Imagine you are scum. You lost your RB Day 1 thanks to a somewhat lucky train by town. Since then town has been sidetracked by suspecting inactive people, or focused on SL. D2 went ok since Town is still largely off your trail, but there is one guy who is bringing suspicion to one of your team. You know you need 3 more mislynches to secure a victory. It seems like it's the right time for a bold play. There has been some setup speculation in thread, since this game uses a semi-open setup scum!You knows just a little more than town, you know your own setup. What if there was a way to confuse town further about setup stuff, WHILE still getting info about the roles that are out there? Thus the fake RB role is born. This fake role serves to confuse town, forces other blues to claim (the info to town becomes too important now), AND manages to give towncred to the scum team since they can hide behind these claims. "But Tunneltoc? Doesn't this play fall apart the next night?" I know your asking that now, but hear me out. With this play Scum is almost guaranteed one of their mislynches (I did my best to stop it, but town wanted to believe all the blue claims too much), and gives them a solid shot at winning the game. D4 will start off with nobody claiming they got RB'd N3. What would you do as scum in this position? I know what i would do, pick a target D4 and say, "hey I roleblocked you!" when they deny it you go "ok well then your scum! clearly you want to confuse town and make them not believe my role!" Will plots do this to me? It seems like he HAS to. Plots and Bara as a team could not kill me N3 as it would give too much credence to my theories, besides that Bats could potentially check plots N3 so he needs to die. This is risky. It means that plots is very likely to get lynched at some point. But as Scum, do you care? Isn't it worth plots sticking his head out like that if it means 1 surefire mislynch and a potential 2nd one the next day if you can throw enough shit on a player to get them scummed? At the very least plots would go out in a fury of confusion and misinformation, all while Bara can freely gauge town safe behind a greencheck (I haven't pointed this out yet, Bara didn't claim he was RB'd until well after Bats said he had been greenchecked) and bus plots when needed. In other words the whole play is to spread misinformation for as long as possible while distracting Town from Bara so he can potentially ride out the game while town keeps lynching inactives. Last thought here, So then given all this, why would plots suggest Bara as GF? The whole play is built around the idea of protecting Bara. This might actually be the only flaw I see in my thinking. It could just be a slip, but it does seem like something plots would be very careful about in this position. Still he was responding to my pressure to explain why he would RB Bara N2. It is possible he let slip a bit of his own thinking when trying to deflect my pressure and questions. When plots mentions Bara as GF it's used to counter my thinking at the time, that plots was mafia RB. It's a hole, but it's not much compared to how well my theory holds up everywhere else. Vote analysis and 1st look at Bara + Show Spoiler + On May 31 2015 08:03 Tictock wrote: Last post in this series. This one addresses Plots and Bara's votes all 3 days and I do a little filter diving on Bara. Bara's filter is much shorter than plots so you should read it yourself, I'm just going to point out a few things I noticed in it. D1 Votes: Both Plots and Bara avoid voting with the majority. They keep their votes on Dis. Bara opens the game with his vote on Dis and lets it ride all day. His reasons are easy to find, it's like the first thing in his filter, they are all based off Bat's Iching. Bara never mentions scott, but he does suggest multiple times that he dislikes lynching inactives as it feels "coinflippy" Plots doesn't do much D1, but he does give reads on Dis (his vote) and scott. Nothing too convincing from these guys as to why they voted Dis over scott. D2 Votes: Reminder that we Lynched VT Bill Murray D2, votes prob mean less than D1 Bara does repeat that he dislikes voting inactives again, also similar to D1 he places his vote on SL and lets it ride all day. Plots gives us a read on 27nb here, but it's pretty useless and is all sheep just disguised as his own read. He then swaps his vote to BM Again clearly sheeping. D3 Votes: Bara, literally just sheeps Bats. No more mention of inactives being coinflippy, no real thought. Posts some numbers at one point to try and show there is much better chance to hit Mafia by voting 27nb or Sul over plots. Plots does some nonsense voting No Lynch at first, but later joins the vote on Sul. Unlike Bara he does show his reasoning, it's pathetic Barakos & Plotspot: Scum Team? Clearly these 2 have some pretty poor reasoning in all of their votes. I found it particularly interesting how Bara drops his own thoughts on SL and just sheeps Bats. When I ask him near EoD why he still thinks SL and Dis could be scum he give me this So I ask, well what do you find scummy about those 2? Why are they cleared by role stuff, they were never checked? By the way, this post from Bara is what got me onto the idea that he was teamed with plots Notice how he gives literally no chance for plots to be scum, but some fraction chance of everyone else? Did anyone notice that D3 there were only 2 players to claim I was defending Sul? Bara thinks so in that last post, and plots did here Was my post on Sul here, really that much of a defense? Wasn't I really just asking for good reasons behind our lynch target, and saying I don't see those reasons in Sul? Plots and Bara were the only 2 people EoD3 to heavily post numbers to support voting Sul or bunnies. This point might be weaker, but did anyone notice how the 2 of them were lurking a lot around EoD? When I start posting my theories about them, they BOTH suddenly appeared in thread giving me shit for it. It seemed clear to me that they were reacting in panic since I had suddenly broken their ploy. Could just be coincidence, but these 2 were fairly active EoD, much morose than any other EoD. Actually filter Diving on Bara wasn't as revealing as I would have thought. I pulled up a few points that I already linked and quoted above. Bara makes a fair bit of towny posts throughout the days, his D1 vote and reasoning were crap but besides that his filter looks ok. As we got into EoD D3 and I throw out the notion that plots and Bara are the the scum team, Bara's posts start to look worse. It really wasn't until the post I quoted above that I started to suspect Bara. This is why I'm still pushing plots as my vote, and why I did so D3 as well. Plots is more clearly scum than Bara. However if plots does flip Goon like I think he will then Bara becomes confirmed GF. Plots flips anything else, and my case on Bara is broken. 2nd look at Bara, this time assuming Plots is Town RB (untunneled) + Show Spoiler + On June 01 2015 20:04 Tictock wrote: Actually 27nb asks a fair question. Why am I switching my vote to Bara? Well, you guys were probably right. I may have been focusing plots too hard. So I will make this case under the assumption that plots is Town RB. Greenchecked, but is he GF? So rather than tunnel him, I decided to follow his thinking. N2 plots blocked Bara becuase he thought he saw scum tendencies in his play. Having reviewed some things, I agree. I think plots backed off too early, Bara claiming the RB could easily be a ploy to keep people from guessing he is GF. Remember how he said it? Like an hour after Day phase had started. Remember the Day started with Bats claiming cop and stating his checks. Whats to stop GF!Bara from seeing his PM and seeing he got greenchecked as well? This gives him the perfect opportunity to fool not just one, but 2 blue roles, just by stating that he got RB'd. I know that in it self isn't enough to prove much, but it IS possible. Votes Remember Bara's votes D1 and D2? He voted Dis and then SL and gave pretty decent cases on them. Dis + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 16:49 Barakos wrote: Morning everyone! I'm here now and almost done to catching up. First thoughts: I like breschke pushing/tunneling sl, to prevent him from being lazy. Makes breschke look town in my eyes. What I didn't like was disformations filter. All he has done so far is posting fluff and agreeing to people but not contributing in any form, except a very weak and non-commiting push on bm for lurking. And then there are these 2 posts: In the bolded parts, he explains what good townplay should look like, and what he would like to have done. And that is all he does... he explains and doesn't follow up with anything, that would be good townplay... he just shows, that he knows, what town should do but does actually nothing. But since he shows, that he knows, what good townplay looks like, he is still "looking good" and tries to give the impression, that he is town but just hasn't had the opportunity to really do stuff. So for now my vote is on him. ##vote disformation SL + Show Spoiler + On May 26 2015 19:39 Barakos wrote: soo... reread the thread... one thing i found kinda funny: I make a post about the votes not meaning much, because it may very well have been planned to vote for unmotivated scum-scott and a few hours after disformation (my stongest scum-read at that moment) makes a huge post saying he analyzed the votes and stuff... it is almost as if you try to antagonize me, disfo.. Anyways... I doubt scum-disfo would do this, since i was the only one pushing him really hard and scum would at this point try to not draw more of my attention by actively trying to argue with me... so for now, disfo moves down from the top spot of my lynch-list. 27nb: looks not so good. was never under my suspicion, because I felt the exchange we had about sulfurus and her reaction to the case disformation made against her. Starts to look worse now. I like tictocks point, about her trying to draw attention to the people voting scott by asking, if there was mafia between them and her promising a big reads-post and not delivering also looks bad. sl: oh god, what a mess... it is almost as if he tries to confuse everybody... "i may or may not have a green check on barakos" "i may be cop or doctor" "i am vanilla town" Like wtf this play looks bad on so many levels. If you are vanilla town it is like the worst possible play to claim you have a green check on someone whose filter you haven't even read and you actually say, you can't read him properly... ok... he retracted in the end... i get that. Next thing, why this play was bad as it can be: He might very well have provoked a counter-claim by the real cop/doc... this is a newbie-game after all and if there were a actual cop/doc in the game an excited newbie might have very well counterclaimed right on the spot. So him going all "i am role x/y" and then after some hours of waiting and no counterclaims saying "lol, just kidding i trolled you all, i am a plain vt." looks very much like rolehunting and hoping someone actually bites and counterclaims. Also there is this quote by him going like "masons, i know who you are, you might as well come out and claim."... next occasion he is rolehunting. but when boxerfred has a theory about a cop having a redcheck and therefor trying to start a wagon, he instantly calls him out on in. So it's ok, when he does it... but only, when he does it. Other things I don't like about his spammy, mostly oneliner-filter: He trys to paint himself in a towny light with the most absurd reasons, like the votecount for example. He puts himself in the spot of a town hero by saying it was his vote and him persuading batsnacks to vote scott that finally swung the vote to lynch scott and not disformation, and when he is confronted with a reasonable arguement, that invalidates this arguement (my post that those votes may very well have been preplanned), his reaction is "lol you know, what mafia says in their qt? you are mafia!" You are not mafia for thinking about, what mafia would do in their qt, and what might be their plans... that's a natural thing for town to do - you try to figure them out and you are paranoid about everything that isn't actually confirmed. And this is one point where sl contradicts himself... see this quote: He refers to this post: Not only does he conveniantly forget, that he was throwing dirt at me for entering the thread at the same time as rels (a confirmed town, he also threw dirt at) and not sulfurus, he is also completely fine with speculating about mafia-qts, when it fits his agenda. Only, when it is not fitting for him, he devaluates it by saying the person speculating is mafia for knowing too much about the scum-qt. Also him disregarding the possibility of a serialkiller to devalue votes vs him again lacks critical thinking on his part and ignoring the possibility of a townaction, that negated one kp at night. the chance isn't the biggest, i will agree to that, but there is still a possibility, that something like this happened. So to sum it up: SLs behavior looks very anti-town to me + he has double standarts, when it comes to certain behaviours and lacks town-trades like a certain amount of paranoia and critical thinking. I am totally fine with lynching him today. ##vote sicklucker I even asked Bara why D3 he was voting Sul. He clearly stated, So he has his own thoughts, but wants to sheep Bats? This seems odd from someone so attached to their own thoughts before. It makes sense if Bara is GF though, he wants to keep people thinking he's town and supports Bats to support his checks. Now D4 again, we see Bara isn't targeting SL, why? He said D3 he still thinks he's scum. I'm wondering if this post had anything to do with it. Did he see SL town reading him and not want to piss him off? That's the only thing that makes sense to me. I find Bara pretty scummy here, his votes and cases especially. I also know I'm not the only one, plots RB'd Bara N2 because he saw similarities in Bara's play this game to a scum game of his. I don't like meta reads, but Bara has been a little too sensible when talking to people and interacting. Yet his cases tend to fall flat, like he's not putting in the same effort. So yea, Bara is a good lynch today. oh your def tunneled. tunneled has nothing to do if your right or wrong. Its when you ignore the rest of the game and dont think of other possiblitys hats what your doing here. If no one votes with you (they wont) who do you vote between me/bunnies/disinfo/bf Because you only have 3 hours to figure that out | ||
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On June 02 2015 02:30 Tictock wrote: @ SL I really want to know why you townread Bara and plots so easily. It had better not be because of RB and Cop check stuff... If you can't give decent reasons why someone is town without relying on Roles I question your ability to play this game... I gave my reasons . They may change but not today. Get mad about it were not lynching those two today | ||
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may23 11:16 I vote scott immediately after bats follows me On May 23 2015 20:16 sicklucker wrote: ##unvote ##vote scott Ya whatever. On a quick reread disinfo filter is not really bad. No way we cant kill scott here. I think a policy lynch is fine I have no high percentage flips in my mind On May 23 2015 20:17 batsnacks wrote: ##unvote ##vote scott Ya whatever. Before we voted the vote count was tied 3-3 between disinfo and scott. After its 5-3 for scott On May 23 2015 20:22 -Celestial- wrote: ~ Vote Count ~ scott31337 (5) : Rels, disformation (3) : Barakos, plotspot (1) : Bill Murray, Sulfurus (1) : disformation 27ninjabunnies (0) : batsnacks (0) : Bill Murray (0) : boxerfred (0) : Breshke (0) : sicklucker (0) : Not voting (3) : boxerfred, scott31337, Sulfurus Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched! The cycle will end at Saturday, May 23 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), less than 11 hours from this post. remain as you are reading this. Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in this thread. If you see any vote out of place, holler at us and we will look into it. 30 minutes after disinfo pops in thread. 4 minutes after that boxerfred pops in thread and votes scott. Soon after that disinfo who was not voting for survival but was pushing sulf puts the last vote on scott. On May 23 2015 21:41 boxerfred wrote: Okay. So ##vote scott31337 it is. I'll try to chime in before EOD to check if he posted something, however, I won't have the time to post for the next 6-8 hours. gonna be close. On May 24 2015 01:04 disformation wrote: EBWOP: nearly forgot... ##unvote ##vote scott31337 So after me and bats voted scott and sealed the deal that he was getting lynch. two people I know to be town we have two people who are still alive cast useless votes on him after the lynch is determined. Almost as if they were keeping there options open so they didnt have to lynch a mafia team mate. On May 24 2015 05:02 cakepie wrote: ~ Vote Count ~ scott31337 (6) : Rels, disformation (3) : Barakos, plotspot (1) : Bill Murray, 27ninjabunnies (1) : batsnacks (0) : Bill Murray (0) : boxerfred (0) : Breshke (0) : sicklucker (0) : Sulfurus (0) : Not voting (2) : scott31337, Sulfurus Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched! The cycle will end at Saturday, May 23 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). That's like 2 hours from this post, y'all! remain as you are reading this. Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in this thread. If you see any vote out of place, holler at us and we will look into it. So they voted together at about the same time after scott was already set to be lynched. Now they are both alive as 2 of the 3 potential mafia left in my opinion. I think this is too big of a coincidence and often the simplest answers are the most obvious. I will be voting one of them and i hope you will be too. I would love to hear cases on both them individual incase im wrong . | ||
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On June 02 2015 03:07 Tictock wrote: Thats it SL? They voted after you D1? And then you ask us to proved cases on them? Are you retarded, lazy, or just such an egomaniac your all 3 and don't know it? I just solved the game for you. see you post game | ||
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On June 02 2015 03:17 27ninjabunnies wrote: So you think that both mafia jumped on the bw for Scott? I mentioned atleast one mafia could have been on the scott vote, and if im not mistaken didn't you say that its unlikely? Why does it seem like you are just trying to get a mislynch some where? If I needed a "mislynch" why would I have to work for it? boxerfreds already getting lynched so why would I bring this up now. I was about to vote you before I saw this connection | ||
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On June 02 2015 03:31 disformation wrote: I am a bit tired, so correct me if I am failing at reading... but are you calling boxerfred a misslynch by implication here? I though boxerfred and me were supposed to be mafia not misslynches? Will be really back after dinner, so brb. ![]() no bunnies is and im being sarcastic | ||
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On June 02 2015 04:54 27ninjabunnies wrote: Actually you know what. Do something ##Unvote ##Vote: Barakos ok now i want to vote you again | ||
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On June 02 2015 05:07 boxerfred wrote: I found mafia already. I'm constantly voting on you since D2, noone even cares. It's all about finding out who's with you, and I say it's dis or sl. Said that multiple times. Noone's listening, keke, vote me, town still wins if there's a mislynch today. if your town its dis/bunnies so maybe ill just vote with you | ||
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Ya we have to vote disinfo like its the only mathematical play. | ||
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That leaves 3. | ||
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On June 02 2015 05:29 27ninjabunnies wrote: And i may just lynch barakos for being dumb. Im trying to put pressure on him so hhe will actually do something. Thats something a mafia would say. You yourself have pushed the notif hes probably town for being roleblocked and green checked | ||
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On June 02 2015 05:31 27ninjabunnies wrote: Well i dont know you are town. I dont have that information. You could very well be mafia. So take it from my perspective. Im town Ticktock is town That's all I have. Plots can be fakeclaiming. Barakos can be fake claiming being blocked. We dont know. So help me try and figure out who is mafia if you are actually town. but we will have so much information on plots and barakos tormorow from the night actions. Even if you dont think there town you should be lynching from the rest | ||
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acualy just so i dont get modkilled if i forget in this dota game! | ||
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Bunnies is voting me. Disinfo is voting me. Bf is considering voting me. If im mafia one of them is my partner because everyone else is town | ||
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On June 02 2015 06:53 27ninjabunnies wrote: IF YOU VOTE ME YOU ARE VOTING A GREENCHECK! AE YOU DUMB! then you shouldnt have made the wagon vs the top onconfirmed town and yourself how convient | ||
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i said im the top town of the unconfirmed learn to read. plots barkos and tictoc all had me as town | ||
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it was me and bunnies fighting that made it between me and bunnies anyway this games over wont be posting much see you post ggame | ||
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I killed two mafia like im sure the mafia has to get me lynched to win. but if you guys humor him and put scum on me ill lose my damn mind | ||
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On June 02 2015 16:35 Tictock wrote: My mind keeps drifting back to this point in the game tonight. 27nb stayed FAR away from my theories when I was tunneled on plots, yet when I switch to Bara she is all over pushing my case. If both plots and Bara were town, wouldn't she have supported my WHOLE case? Instead she is only willing to talk to me about it when I suggest Bara as a target over plots. Call me tunneled if you want, but I will never stop asking questions. I don't believe this game ever has "auto-lynch" conditions (maybe in some rare cases when you get the right combo of blue roles), I'd much rather keep thinking than be lazy and try and find ways to play the game without reasoning. I mean... whats the point of the game if not to challenge our thinking? na your case is just so wild that she would look scummy for supporting it . (and she kind of did to some extent) | ||
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On June 02 2015 16:40 Tictock wrote: In that vein of thought. Anyone care to share their current thoughts on Dis and BF? I'm not seeing scum on them, but my own thinking is clearly biased. SL as always plays that fine line between shitty town with bad ideas and scum pushing bad ideas. Honestly I don't think my views on him will ever change at this point, even beyond the scope of this one game ... not even after I killed two mafia...? | ||
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On June 02 2015 18:49 boxerfred wrote: SL, why do you get so hard on me now? In case you're wondering if I am bunnies potential scum ally, here you go: D2: I voted bunnies. My vote would have gotten her lynched (it gave her the majority at this point). Bats switched. D3: I voted bunnies. My vote would help kill a scum member. I didn't switch although the claimed cop gave me an easy excuse to switch (if I was scum a member that is). Disinformation switched though, claiming he "flipped a coin". D4: I unvote bunnies, making no difference at all, not even trying to (since it was literally a last minute change). Barakos is a green check, Tictocks. Only case where he'd be scum would be in a GF + GF + RB scenario. However, you tryharding really makes me reconsider the idea of having two masons by now. I PM'ed the host, it's possible there's only one mason is. I want Plots to RB me this night. If nothing happens, boom I'm scum. If someone dies, oh look I'm not scum and we can go for auto in between SL and Disinformation. If it turns out that there is only one mason in (in breshke), well fuck. But tbh I don't think so. I really want to be confirmed as town. It's between Disinfo and SL (it's not like I said this on D2 and D3). I have always said disinfo would be bunnies likely partner. I just thought you were with disinfo ;p | ||
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On June 03 2015 03:30 Tictock wrote: D2 votes could be Bus, your right. D3... nah 27nb was not really the top target. Scum has no reason to bus their partners unless it is highly likely that they are getting lynched that day already. You are right though, the way she targeted you over BF D1 when she "reads" an association between you two is odd. The same kinda odd how she supported my ideas on plots yet never voted him, but was totally willing to jump on Bara. scum are more likely to vote there partners when they are not gonna get lynched so its harder to connect them if one dies. mafia 101 right there | ||
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On June 03 2015 03:26 disformation wrote: well. bunnies voted me day1 of a constructed connection between boxer and me. boxerfred and sicklucker both voted her d2 and d3. though that could have been attempts to bus... Right her partner could have bused. But when it came to crunch time whos vote did bunnies and her partner land on? Me This is who voted me bunnies/bf/you Thisis who could be mafia bunnies/bs/you. In had been saying that for like 2 days. Im the most active player. I been right about everything Tictock im a really easy read your just stubborn... | ||
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On June 03 2015 03:45 Tictock wrote: Only you think that SL... Why else would Bats and Bre pressure you so much D1 to get decent reads on you? they both thought I was town. Plots thinks im town. Bara thinks im town.Everyone using critical thinking thinks im town It doesint matter that bf/disinfo dont read me because one of them is mafia and the other only has two potential players to lynch from so has to suspect me by default. | ||
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On June 03 2015 03:48 Tictock wrote: Like I'm just really tired of hearing how this whole game revolves around SL. How you state, "this is so obviously true" In a NEWBIE game where there WILL be people to whom it is Not obvious. You really contribute little to nothing in these games. This whole game does revolve around me currently stop being arrogant. If we dont lynch me town wins. So as a good town player its my job to make this entire game about me | ||
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Please put some effort into your posts. One word replies and other low content posts are not appreciated here. zzz Thanks in advance for your cooperation, Sn0_Man (Do not reply to this message. No one will receive it.) LOL | ||
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On June 03 2015 02:09 plotspot wrote: I'm going to block BF tonight then, since Barakos and Tictock both read him scum, I can clear him if he is not. If anything goes wrong just refer to my flow chart and replace Dis with BF. oh ok. bf is town tho man. hes still trying even after this post. If your around block disinfo or barakos | ||
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On June 03 2015 06:05 Barakos wrote: The block is br, disfo or sl... blocking bf is completely fine here. me is fine as well obv im biased. I just forgot your green checked for a moment there. Not something I would do as mafia. Bf is town im pretty sure by his interaction here. So mafia is disinfo he seems stubborn enough to not concede | ||
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Im not Im like the only nomination this year on team liquid for the best mafia play award. I WOULD NOT BE IN THIS SITUATION IF I WAS MAFIA AND IF I DID I WOULD CONCEDE LOL k | ||
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Why do I bus my partner. If theres a roleblocker in the game and theres only 1 mafia left then when you roleblock anyone you get a 100% real copcheck. Thats terrible if im mafia my only play is to save my partner. By killing bunnies it also confirms you as town. LIKE IT MAKES NO SENSE FOR ME TO BUS BUNNIES. The second bunnies died the game was over because it confirms two people as town in 1 go. You and whoever plots checks tonight. I would never let town have two confirmed towns EVER EVER EVER omfg | ||
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If anyone lynches me this game I will policy lynch you in ever game Im ever in with you. Because I really am confirmed town here. like 100% confirmed its not even close | ||
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Bunnies dying secures town the win because not only does it lynch a mafia but it confirms you. At the same time making plots roleblocks the same as a cop check. Bunnies can never die if mafia wants to win. Whoever bunnies partner is was protecting her. This game is over | ||
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##vote boxerfred debating if I even try here. Like the logic is there its a confirmed town vs a newb who refuses to concede even tho he lost. Like fuck you guys | ||
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I have given complete logic as to why im confirmed town and never partnered with bunnies. Bf is clearly salty I killed his two mafia team mates and is trying to swag on me even tho he cant win. All you need to know is that I would have conceded. I would not bm bf in a newbie game and swag on him like this in a game where everyones confirmed town but him and me. Thats all you need to know as a veteran of this site I would not embarras myself by wasting 24 hours to lynch a newbie for no reason. | ||
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On June 03 2015 08:08 disformation wrote: So. We lynch boxerfred and sicklucker in any order and town wins? I am down. Let's watch sicklucker explode. ##vote sicklucker what can i do to get you to change your vote? i want this game to end asap | ||
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like its not even about my streak which no one cares about. Im just really insulted hes trying this | ||
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On June 03 2015 09:37 Tictock wrote: Idk I feel like SL is floundering hard here. Usually when he's under pressure he starts being reasonable, but this looks like he's starting to reach hard to me. As to the bolded statement. SL the only reason I'm still here is because I'm truely hoping you DON'T represent this community. Thankfully with all my talking with Bre before and stuff from last game I know your not typical here. However if I do give you a fair shake and read your post. Wouldn't Dis be likely scum? He's the only one not being scummed atm. If he is mafia he is sitting pretty, no way does he consider conceding right now. no its not dis he would not be the only vote in my favor. Hes a solo mafia being a unmannered child | ||
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Regardless who it is town wins so can we win today and not tomorrow plz? | ||
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On June 03 2015 10:31 disformation wrote: One last thing... I just remembered this gem: Bold font was added by me to highlight stuff. lol nice find | ||
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On June 03 2015 10:32 Tictock wrote: You guys prob prefer me not doing big cases anymore right? I'm kinda burnt out on them and having my own tunnel being shoved in my face with those flips does a lot to calm a man down. I'm starting to work through BF's filter but am realizing I prob wont have some fantastic analysis at the end of it. I'll try to keep my conclusions short and to the point. i mean the games over save the effort. Just kill bf first | ||
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Pming him to stop might be breaking the rules but its not bm. Slow rolling is. My pm was sent to let him know what he was doing and to stop wasting everyones time. His role was confirmed to me anyway | ||
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On June 03 2015 16:59 Breshke wrote: GG everyone. Thanks to all the hosts and coaches. SL dude who cares if you get lynched. Be more townie and they will lynch him first or w/e. Who cares about your stats they literally mean nothing. Make it clear to the thread why if they lynch you they lynch BF straight after and they would probs end up lynching you second. You know what you did was wrong don't try to justify it. You obviously didn't do it with bad intentions but you probably knew you weren't meant to so it ain't cool. its not about stats lol. I said that ingame I felt literraly insulted he did this and I had a bad day. Anyway not talking about that anymore but we can talk about this very good game! | ||
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Mafia can never bus bunnies in that spot. IF she dies it confirms TWO TOWNS barakos and whoever plots rbs | ||
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Nothings personal. If a new player takes things personal thats on him and they probably would have quit anyway | ||
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On June 03 2015 17:34 Barakos wrote: By that logic, boxer also was confirmed, since the first 3 votes, that sealed bunnies fate (since TT would never unvote me in this position, I think) were bf, plots and me. So unless you vote for yourself, bunnies is pretty much doomed there anyways. Of course voteswitches can happen and stuff... It was pretty clear, that mafia fucked up there, the moment boxer cced, because boxer + you were on bunnies. You have a thing for pointing out things, that don't confirm you and say they do. It's totally annoying and - if this had actually dragged on - would have gotten you my vote. So - is it likely you make this mistake? - No Is it more likely boxer makes this mistake? - Probably Still I would have voted you, basically because you are a pain in the ass to read. I felt that you trolled half the game and every time you started making sense, you also started screaming "look, this is me trying. baby town jesus confirmed." Huh? bf voted to save bunnies. I voted to kill bunnies. I hammer voted all 3 mafia this game acualy. Mistakes happened you played a really good game up to that point and town sidered. Without you town lost this without a doubt | ||
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On June 03 2015 20:39 plotspot wrote: wow, I wake up to find the game ends? WTF? LOL I wanted to watch how Tictock tunnels on someone else. XD As soon as I saw I'm dead, I immediately knew this was gonna be interesting between SL and BF. BF should have not CC but push for a lynch between him and dis. With dis dieing he could have hold hit shot on N5 and then mylo it, to maybe push a lynch on SL. But yeah too dangerous, dis is basically town the whole game, SL was believed to be town by both Barakos and Tictock. I was also interested in seeing what SL would do against the odds. Of course you don't trust me, I was very random in my choices, time and time again I didn't block the person I specified. You have to trust your instincts. Of course I didn't randomize anything, nor via the host nor via anything. The thing was if I announced blocking SL, BF the way he is could really just kill him, and till the end Tictock still didn't believe me to be Town RB. I didn't want to deal with this any longer on D5, but invented shit about randomizing so mafia would kill me 100%. I trusted we still have Barakos left, my lifeline the whole game, to carry it out to the end. The BF CCed was our victory 100%. I also said in my very last sentence: guy who is blocked should announce, then he gets CC by mafia and the third is town. If BF was really blocked he would have never waited so long, only as mafia you're not sure whether I blocked Dis or SL and then come out and CC. if he killed me the game would have been over STILL. you rly should have just said and save me a brain annerism | ||
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Like I was obviously going through some real shit during this game. So bringing up that day 2 pm I sent you were I was considering leaving as a angle shoot/breaking the rule thing is going to far. I decided not to so its pointless . I dont have to give you my real reasons. If I had decided to replace out I probably would have given you them like I gave them to gb and he instantly replaced me out without dragging my name through the dirt. That was the first game out of 20 that I replaced out of. I think im dead in that game anyway so ill say that my aunt and grandma died near the beginning and end of this game. | ||
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