Newbie Student Mafia X

On May 22 2015 07:45 Breshke wrote:


he would have had 24 to get over the wonders of a scum qt though.

Also Hi

On May 22 2015 08:08 Breshke wrote:
Oh yeah and SL is mafia

##Vote Sicklucker

On May 22 2015 08:46 Tictock wrote:
SL what do you think of BM's vote on bunnies then?

He is serious you know...

On May 22 2015 08:48 Breshke wrote:
It also says the all Qts were active in the like initial start of game post.

I'm not going to read you for a dumbbell SL I'm going to read you on giving nonsensical town reads and not thinking critically about the game

On May 22 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote:


I really like this post and not even because it's telling people to vote SL the thought process is spot on.

On May 22 2015 09:30 Breshke wrote:


Trying?

Saying your town for dumbtelling when its completly within your ability to do it as scum and your only read being that im scum for not calling you town for said dumbtell. I don't call that trying.

I get it is early but do you have opinions on anyone? What do you think of disinfo now that the QT thing has been corrected?

On May 22 2015 10:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Disinformation the game so far has been people reacting to a post batsnacks has , premade,

Sicklucker is someone I want to see more from

The scum qt thing I agree with because I didn't realize it would have been open either considering town couldn't talk ......

On May 22 2015 10:25 Breshke wrote:


Scum points for still not saying anything useful and continuing to say you are town because of a dumbtell

On May 22 2015 10:33 Tictock wrote:


Welcome to the thread! Wth is this vote?

@BM
I'm just trying to get something a little more solid from ya since there is a bit of stuff to look over now. I feel you've satisfied that for now.

## Unvote

On May 22 2015 10:37 Breshke wrote:
This is from the Prologue post

On May 22 2015 10:24 Sulfurus wrote:
@sicklucker is it not normal for the mafia QT to be open during pregame b/c if it is you shouldn't have made that dumbtell
also ##Vote: Breshke

On May 22 2015 11:48 Tictock wrote:


SL, Sul hadn't commented about Bre's posts till after you made that statement. Tell us what you really were thinking when posting that rather than retconning it with stuff you know now.

Starting to see shades of red in ya.

On May 22 2015 11:50 Tictock wrote:


This is just asking for Plynch, no?

On May 22 2015 17:48 Rels wrote:
What is -ev btw ?

On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:



Okay, so let's look at this post.

First off, I actually like you. I disagree with the pushon you.

Secondly, the vote on SL was due to him first coming into the thread with "Confirmed town".
Troll post=troll vote.

However, I haven't moved my vote on SL because SL hasn't done anything to prove to me he is town. I'll go over this a bit later.

When saying Breshke and SL were partners, in part I was joking. I was trying to get some type of reaction from SL, which if I remember correctly I don't think I ever got. It was Breshke that actually started questioning this, which I really REALLY like of Breshke. As SL said, I shot him as vig in a previous game, he was mafia. I usually have a good read on Breshke, and this questioning makes me think that Breshke is town.

So even if I didn't get information out of SL from this (SL prob still my top lynch, followed by newbie Boxer for that awful first couple of posts), I did get information on Breshke's alignment.

On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:



Okay, so let's look at this post.

First off, I actually like you. I disagree with the pushon you.

Secondly, the vote on SL was due to him first coming into the thread with "Confirmed town".
Troll post=troll vote.

However, I haven't moved my vote on SL because SL hasn't done anything to prove to me he is town. I'll go over this a bit later.

When saying Breshke and SL were partners, in part I was joking. I was trying to get some type of reaction from SL, which if I remember correctly I don't think I ever got. It was Breshke that actually started questioning this, which I really REALLY like of Breshke. As SL said, I shot him as vig in a previous game, he was mafia. I usually have a good read on Breshke, and this questioning makes me think that Breshke is town.

So even if I didn't get information out of SL from this (SL prob still my top lynch, followed by newbie Boxer for that awful first couple of posts), I did get information on Breshke's alignment.

On May 22 2015 07:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Scum

On May 22 2015 22:52 disformation wrote:
Ah cool, you are here bunnies.


Noted. Could be an attempt to please me, so I stop pushing you.


Yup. That is why I called it NAI.


Looking forward to see that.



I really like this answer.
Haven't looked much at boxer yet, could you highlight some things that sprung out for you? I skimmed it and I didn't see anything that would strongly lead me in either direction. Though he could be mafia trying to play the newb card?

On May 23 2015 09:11 Bill Murray wrote:
im home and i have my computer set up at my new house
score

On May 23 2015 12:03 batsnacks wrote:
##vote sicklucker

ignore this it's nothing

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On May 23 2015 12:13 Breshke wrote:
##Unvote

Forgot to do this last night already gave a reason for it,

I agree plot is almost never mafia now although that might have to be reconsidered later.

Also I really have a town boner about bats like idk if its because it is a newbie game or what but you just seem to be playing different this game and I really like it. I asked bunnies specifically about bats because they both kind of did a thing where they asked a question to try get reads of newbies like a general sort of thing and wanted to see if that had any effect on bunnies read to see if she noticed but apprently she didnt. That doesn't really say much though.

So people that arn't getting lynched today are as follow
Breshke
Tictock
Bats
Boxerfred (mainly because of bats) I would still like to know what the playstyle is like at the other place you play like how do votes work

On May 23 2015 02:56 batsnacks wrote:
SL is null still. I never really had a reason to scum read him I sort of just voted him to vote someone.

I'm looking at sulfur and Scott until they post something that sticks in my memory. When I find time I need to read bunnies filter and sort out some of the stuff I saw when I was skimming. I'm off work in like 3 hours I can only really briefly respond/snark at stuff until then.

On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.

Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.

##vote: sicklucker

On May 23 2015 02:56 batsnacks wrote:
SL is null still. I never really had a reason to scum read him I sort of just voted him to vote someone.

I'm looking at sulfur and Scott until they post something that sticks in my memory. When I find time I need to read bunnies filter and sort out some of the stuff I saw when I was skimming. I'm off work in like 3 hours I can only really briefly respond/snark at stuff until then.

On May 23 2015 12:20 batsnacks wrote:
Let's lynch SL seriously. Town SL takes being scum read way more personally than he has this game. Scott is a fine vote too and so is BM at this point but I'm really feeling SL if he thinks he can ignore pressure and do nothing.

On May 23 2015 16:32 Breshke wrote:


SL this post here. Is it ment to be you voting batsnacks? I assume this is you being confused because you play on 2 + 2 aswell and if it is im not sure how you havnt noticed that none of your votes count nor the wraning from the host that said to format your shit correctly.

So you have either never voted which is retarded because you have posted so much so what would all the posting have been for you arn't pushing shit nor trying to work out the game.

Or you have been trying to vote and have not been paying attention to the thread hardly at all to realize that you havn't been doing it correctly. Which would be scummy because once again you havn't been trying to figure out the game.

On May 23 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:
Yo a quick post and I'll be gone until the deadline. Hope I can be around just before but no guarantee.

First scott still haven't showed up and answered the questions ... questions he asked for in his last post may I remind you. So I'm happy to see him lynch atm.

Second I don't like this wagon on disformation at all. The only one with arguments is Barakos so I'm not suspicious of him, but the other two I am (27nb and plotspot). I don't like plotspot voting on an analysis made on the first hours of the game.

Talking about plotspot. Woaw that's a lot of work. But I agree with ticktock's thoughts on him in his list post. Don't have a lot of time so you will have to find it yourself. To summarize what I liked about his argument:
What plotspot did takes a lot of work. But he doesn't push any agenda and it's pretty non alignment indicative. If all a mafia has to do to look town is to make pretty graphics that takes 6 hours to make, we wouldn't catch any. So I agree to not lynch him today but he's not town forever for me.

Last about SL. Again (= I don't like that he says "plotspot is town forever maybe" and then he says "what you did doesn't bring a lot to the table". I don't like how he responded to batsnacks' pressure.

Sorry about the lack of quotes I have to go. My list lynch is:
Scott
BM
SL

See you tonight, hopefully before EOD! Have a good day (=

On May 23 2015 20:11 batsnacks wrote:


idk I was just drunk and messing around on my phone and was like "SL thinks he can ignore me eh, well let's see him ignore this."

Then I thought about it some more and was like maybe that was a mistake.

Then I thought about it even more and was like nah can't be that bad SL usually freaks out way more then he has when people scum read him for what he thinks are unreasonable reasons.

On May 24 2015 06:04 Sulfurus wrote:
I admit even I am confused as to why NinjaBunnies is defending me so hard; right now the only vote on her is Tictock (someone who I have had a townread on longer then anyone else) but she is definitely someone who needs to be looked at later.

For me the the person with the most useful reads and my top town is Barakos; he was the one who helped me townread Breshke and scumread Disformation with this post, he has shown a healthy suspicion of NinjaBunnies, and he influenced me to un-vote BM, along with SL, with his coinflip argument (for the record I still think SL is town).

My favorite Barakos post so far is this one right here especially the Batsnacks part which shows how scummy he truly is (Bat's overly defensive reactions in posts 538 & 539 don't help his case either) so while he won't get lynched today I'll definitely be pushing for his death tomorrow.

##Vote: Batsnacks

On May 24 2015 06:06 Tictock wrote:
Also SL, you seriously forgot how to format votes here?

Like we played in the same game a week ago and I know your not new to these forums/games...

On May 24 2015 06:18 Tictock wrote:
Lol SL, i actually don't mind when you ignore me so much. It's when you try to act like your so infallible or whatever that I get bothered. Actually now that I've had a couple of games to learn how to read and approach you I don't mind you so much.

I'll admit, when you post stuff like this

It rubs me the wrong way, but then I suppose I had a similar reaction to BS's vote on you. To me it was obv that he just wanted to bug you but you're very sure that he wants to lynch you (even though he moved his vote)

On May 24 2015 07:23 Tictock wrote:
100% willing to Lynch SL tomorrow based off that one post btw.

On May 24 2015 07:57 Rels wrote:
Yeah for scum lynched (= happy about that.

I think vig should not claim before shooting.


I would agree if we were sur to have a doc. But we don't know that it is not an open setup.


No it's not good.

Vig should claim day 2 if he shooted:
- if he is not counter claimed, we have a confirmed blue
- if he is counter claimed, we have another scum lynch in day 3 in the worst scenario.

On May 24 2015 08:11 Rels wrote:


Do we have confirmation it is 3 mafia ?
I mean, that's what I assume too, but is it written anywhere ?

On May 24 2015 08:26 Breshke wrote:
No one need to claim anything if mafia claims Vigi on their night kill the lack of another kill would be fairly obvious.

Never listen to SL about mechanics. He rarely thinks about what he says.

On May 24 2015 08:58 Breshke wrote:


So this post from SL is fairly horrible. Doesn't swap his vote does nothing with his "feeling". This looks very much like scum testing the waters trying to see if people would swap off his buddy.

On May 24 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote:




Has a shitty push on disinfo doesn't explain anything or put any effort into getting him lynched just faking suspicion to seem town.



Backs of his shitty read again with no reasoning when wagon seems to be going against his partner. Starts bussing to get towncred.



Tries to push rels AGAIN with no reasoning. Does not put any effort into getting rels lynched instead of scott even though scott is just a policy lynch for him and rels he genuinely thinks is scum.

SL is not trying to work out the game he mainly just posts to post. Probably started bussing his partner then tried to see if he could start a different wagon. When noone started biting he just drops it.

[b]We are lynching SL tomorrow[b].

On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin

On May 24 2015 07:04 cakepie wrote:

scott31337 (6) : Rels, batsnacks (X), Tictock (X), Breshke, sicklucker, batsnacks, boxerfred, disformation
disformation (3) : Barakos, Breshke (X), 27ninjabunnies, plotspot
plotspot (1) : Bill Murray, Tictock (X)
27ninjabunnies (1) : Bill Murray (X), Tictock
batsnacks (1) : sicklucker (X), Sulfurus
Bill Murray (0) : Tictock (X), Sulfurus (X), Rels (X), boxerfred (X)
boxerfred (0) : Rels (X)
Breshke (0) : Sulfurus (X)
sicklucker (0) : Breshke (X), batsnacks (X), Bill Murray (X), batsnacks (X)
Sulfurus (0) : disformation (X)

Not voting (1) : scott31337

Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched!

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On May 24 2015 18:04 Rels wrote:
I was the first to post about scott.
I was the first to vote for him.
I'm not advocating a lynch because you didn't vote mafia. I am for 7 reasons listed above.

On May 24 2015 18:04 Rels wrote:
I was the first to post about scott.
I was the first to vote for him.
I'm not advocating a lynch because you didn't vote mafia. I am for 7 reasons listed above.

On May 25 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
I'm not going to argue with you why rels would have been a terrible Vigi shot because it isn't useful to talk about. They were clearly town even before the flip he was the one who started the wagon on Scott.

Plot why aren't you voting SL yet? Do you not think he is scum?

On May 24 2015 23:06 disformation wrote:


Great, looking forward to that.

Looking at the votes on scott:

rels: pressures all the people with low/zero posts. did put a pressure vote on scott for basically only having 1-2 meh posts. scott tries to get rels off him, by saying he likes rels a lot. rels didn't seem impressed. scott never returns, so rels just keeps his vote on him.

breskhe: also voting for doing jack. but also backs it up with a meta read.

Oh and he also calls out scott earlier:

Liking breshke a lot looking at this.

sicklucker: votes batsnacks, quickly drops that vote. Either a joke vote, or realizing that this wagon won't go anywhere? Looks at the two available wagons, realizes that scott looks worse than me, throws his vote on him. Says N1 that he would have tried to get me lynched instead of scott, if he had been around EoD1. Not sure what to make of him atm. =/

batsnacks: had an earlier vote on scott, after looking at bunnies, sulf and scott. decided to vote scott out of that bunch. Then switches to sicklucker with that one super irritating post.

TBH I was thinking batsnacks and sicklucker were just trolling each other there. But sicklucker is still going on about that?
Well, batsnacks drops this vote on sicklucker super fast and votes scott with:

Since this aligns with his previous vote/read and the sicklucker vote was just a troll, I think this looks legit.

boxerfred: annouces that he will vote for an inactive person with:

goes ahead and votes scott:

Expresses some doubts here:

So... he goes from "I'll vote for whoever is really inactiv", which can imply "regardless of alignment" to "oh wow I really don't like to coinflip on the most inactive person ever."
Not really liking this. boxerfred, I would love to explain your train of thought on this.

If someone arrives at other conclusions from the votes, I would be down to talk about that. Will do some chores now so:

On May 25 2015 08:15 plotspot wrote:
I never understood what you mean by ogi? Can you explain that technicality?

On May 25 2015 08:22 batsnacks wrote:


What did you think of bm's big post where he went all james joyce?

On May 25 2015 08:31 plotspot wrote:
thanks for the explanation SL, but I still don't understand what the word "ogi" means.

On May 25 2015 08:31 batsnacks wrote:


He had many similar posts in his last game as mafia in assassination.

On May 22 2015 11:44 scott31337 wrote:
Dinner was good and now time to get to work...

I'm unsure what to think of BM's early vote, maybe just to get some discussion started?
He unvoted though.



SL loves to fakeclaim as town. +1

On May 25 2015 09:31 batsnacks wrote:
I'm going to play the asshole and point out that plots' spreadsheet is completely useless. Yes it looks like it took a lot of time and spending a lot of time on the game is townie but the spreadsheet itself is not useful for anything but activity wifom.

His reads are not as strong as I would expect for someone who believes they are working some amazing mafia finding tool. And if he didn't believe the spreadsheet were an amazing mafia finding tool why would he spend so much time on it?

On May 23 2015 11:14 batsnacks wrote:
Also holy hell plots is town. I am the only person ever who has spreadsheet'ed that hard as mafia.

On May 25 2015 09:47 batsnacks wrote:
Brother

The iching thing took me 5 minutes and it was in the first hour of the game. Your thing is completely different. I said what I said because I don't want to see you coast on some spreadsheet that isn't going to help town.

On May 25 2015 14:14 Sulfurus wrote:


Whoops I believe that should be a link to post 264



IIRC your 'case' against me is that I called Bill Murray 'mislynch bait' which came off as TMI to you. TBH I don't actually know if Bill is town or not but I thought that term sounded better then 'lynch bait' since bait is usually a kind of trap you don't want to get caught in (think fishing) but we want to lynch mafia not avoid it (hopefully that makes sense).

As for Sicklucker I feel he has been so busy defending himself that he hasn't been able to give any useful reads and Rels gave a very good accusation of him here so I don't think I will bother defending and I may even vote on him if it comes down to it.

@Bill Murray I don't quite understand why you rescinded your vote off of SL. Can you please explain?

On May 25 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:


OHH lol. My read isn't made up on bats. We mindmelded on the thing about pushing you early. All the shit you found scummy about him is just you looking at stuff in a bad light like his first battrack on you. If you look at it with no bias it IS possible that the way he explained it was how it happened. I think it is far more likely than he forgot what he wrote in the thread 5 mins prior and decided to say something totally diffferent.

The problem is SL can play like this as town I know this. But this is also the reason I gave him a pass last time he was scum.

On May 25 2015 15:22 Tictock wrote:
SL you are either
A) Scum
B) Town that cares more about defending themselves at all costs (including lie and spread disinformation) than finding scum

B is not ideal, but I'd be ok with it. Thankfully that's not a worry since you are scum.

On May 22 2015 12:00 scott31337 wrote:


What kind of post is this? You weren't even able to post any original thoughts before you left?

On May 25 2015 15:48 Breshke wrote:
Really SL? Your a big boy stop giving up since when do you even give up.

I kind of want to lynch bunnies more than you now anyway and wish she was posting.

I'm happy I've broken your spirit though.

On May 25 2015 15:54 Breshke wrote:
I agree that the way Scott treats plot is a big point in favour of him being town. It is one of the only things I've gotten from Scott's filter.

However tictok raises good points on him and if we dont keep lynching mafia there's only so far a town read based on spreadsheets and Scott being aggressive towards you will last.

SL I also have problems with the fact that I'm null to you yet you say I'm pushing you because I'm salty not because I'm scum. So you think I'm town?

On May 25 2015 16:41 Tictock wrote:


Whats you PoE list SL? Last I saw you were scumming exactly 1.5 people.

On May 24 2015 06:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
We have 15 mins to EOD right? And scott still hasnt shown up. Can anyone give a a semi vote count?

On May 23 2015 06:18 -Celestial- wrote:
Ask and ye shall receive:


plotspot (2) : Bill Murray, Tictock
disformation (2) : Barakos, Breshke
scott31337 (2) : Rels, batsnacks
Bill Murray (1) : Tictock (X), Sulfurus, Rels (X), boxerfred (X)
27ninjabunnies (0) : Bill Murray (X)
boxerfred (0) : Rels (X)
Breshke (0) : Sulfurus (X)
sicklucker (0) : Breshke (X), batsnacks (X), Bill Murray (X)

Not voting (6) : 27ninjabunnies, boxerfred, disformation, plotspot, scott31337, sicklucker

Currently, plotspot is set to be lynched!

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On May 23 2015 08:25 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oh, and I think the above post is a great basis for

##Vote:Disformation

On May 25 2015 17:40 Tictock wrote:
Guys... this is such amazing play. I have to point it out.

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On May 25 2015 19:55 batsnacks wrote:
SL what do you think of baraka? Maybe something other than that you green checked him.

On May 25 2015 20:05 boxerfred wrote:

Okay I can see that. Also, his usage of smileys really seems to not be based on the intention of a post so I take that as granted. I moved away from the scum lean already anyways but I don't think I'll drop the SK lean. I have to reread the sicklucker things, it's really confusing (since I can only quickscan the thread today until like 7-8 hours from now on).

As I understood it, people want to start a train on either sicklucker or bunnies. Having such a clear train for two different persons, started by two different persons, I'd say that the cop actually hit a scum member this night and wants to get that guy lynched without indicating who he himself is. Is that a far fetched theory or could that be the truth?

On May 25 2015 20:43 disformation wrote:


This part is not entirely true. His read progression on me is:
1) cheap town read.
2) scum after he asks for my reads
3) does his fail vote on me you quoted
4) unvotes / unscums me after skimming my filter and votes scott

So that looks legit. The problem I have is:

So he would have tried to lynch me (who he previously unscumed)? Though I could have still been null to him or something. Apparently he has some problems figuring me out, which might be the reason for that...

I am going to try and figure out all read progressions by sicklucker now... which might take a bit. His filter is really long.

On May 26 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote:
I think I'll take breshke, batsnacks and tictocs as masons, at least two of them are. Their thoughts and votes seem to go down the same road most of the time. I read a lot of the sicklucker stuff by now but need to dive in deep into the last ~5 pages since I returned home not too long ago and am going to sleep after this post. I'm not too sure if I like the bunnies train since I'm still on the "dis is leaning towards sk" road. Also, I don't get too many of sicklucker's posts, they are kind of confusing and they imply that one needs to be more experienced to fully understand those short sentences in depth.

Skimming through disinfo's posts, I don't really see a point from which I would start a train on him. I might be wrong with my lean on him. However, I'd like to clearly know what he thinks about pretty much everyone - especially where he would locate scum members and SK. As I can see from celestial's post, he's currently all about jumping trains, matching the pattern of jumping the scott train before: first, he goes for sicklucker, being the 3rd vote at this point (I did not compare timestamps, so it might be the second vote, note that please!). Then, he changes his vote, being the 4th to jump bunnies.

That is not really matching his gameplay of putting pressure on people until a train is started on them.

For reference, final vote count of day 1:



Going for Sulfuros first, then jumping a train that will most likely kill the guy, thus saving his vote.

I'd like to point out that initially, batsnacks and tictoc voted the same on scott rather early, which strengthens my mason theory, putting Breshke on a neutral lean for me. However, both batsnacks and Breshke have a town read for me if I'm right. Coming to a conclusion of my theories, I'd say we have to search for scum members among sulfurus, bill murray and maybe sicklucker (mentioning him since I can see why he's being blamed but I think his posts make sense (if I understand them correctly) and bunnies (for named reasons). I'd locate the SK at disinfo and maybe SL.

It's all too wonky at this point. I delayed my vote for a long time last day already, but this time, I'm putting my vote on sicklucker rather early. He's jumping people rather often, voting batsnacks, BM and then bunnies, following batsnacks who he voted upon before. That's three guys, with him, four. Four in a span of a few hours? I take that as a vote that is cast knowing the alignment of at least one of the three guys he voted upon. Given that he unvoted two times, it might very well be that he's a scum member knowing about the identity of a fellow scum member. Which would, following my mason theory, point to bill murray being scum.

Not sure how bullet proof that theory is, please fire at it to see how long it holds.

##vote sicklucker

On May 26 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote:
I think I'll take breshke, batsnacks and tictocs as masons, at least two of them are. Their thoughts and votes seem to go down the same road most of the time. I read a lot of the sicklucker stuff by now but need to dive in deep into the last ~5 pages since I returned home not too long ago and am going to sleep after this post. I'm not too sure if I like the bunnies train since I'm still on the "dis is leaning towards sk" road. Also, I don't get too many of sicklucker's posts, they are kind of confusing and they imply that one needs to be more experienced to fully understand those short sentences in depth.

Skimming through disinfo's posts, I don't really see a point from which I would start a train on him. I might be wrong with my lean on him. However, I'd like to clearly know what he thinks about pretty much everyone - especially where he would locate scum members and SK. As I can see from celestial's post, he's currently all about jumping trains, matching the pattern of jumping the scott train before: first, he goes for sicklucker, being the 3rd vote at this point (I did not compare timestamps, so it might be the second vote, note that please!). Then, he changes his vote, being the 4th to jump bunnies.

That is not really matching his gameplay of putting pressure on people until a train is started on them.

For reference, final vote count of day 1:



Going for Sulfuros first, then jumping a train that will most likely kill the guy, thus saving his vote.

I'd like to point out that initially, batsnacks and tictoc voted the same on scott rather early, which strengthens my mason theory, putting Breshke on a neutral lean for me. However, both batsnacks and Breshke have a town read for me if I'm right. Coming to a conclusion of my theories, I'd say we have to search for scum members among sulfurus, bill murray and maybe sicklucker (mentioning him since I can see why he's being blamed but I think his posts make sense (if I understand them correctly) and bunnies (for named reasons). I'd locate the SK at disinfo and maybe SL.

It's all too wonky at this point. I delayed my vote for a long time last day already, but this time, I'm putting my vote on sicklucker rather early. He's jumping people rather often, voting batsnacks, BM and then bunnies, following batsnacks who he voted upon before. That's three guys, with him, four. Four in a span of a few hours? I take that as a vote that is cast knowing the alignment of at least one of the three guys he voted upon. Given that he unvoted two times, it might very well be that he's a scum member knowing about the identity of a fellow scum member. Which would, following my mason theory, point to bill murray being scum.

Not sure how bullet proof that theory is, please fire at it to see how long it holds.

##vote sicklucker

On May 24 2015 18:41 Barakos wrote:
The votes on scott mean just about nothing.

27nb asked if people thought there was mafia voting for scott shortly before eod... there sure was.

People said scott rolled mafia in several of his newbie-games and wasn't very happy about this, so I am pretty sure his scum-partners in the qt knew this, too.
So there might very well have been plans about voting him, if it becomes apparent, he will not return to the thread. Him not returning and posting as less as possible might even have been the plan right from the start.
Which is also why what bm said about scotts post making him look good is complete bs since this might as well have been a planned breadcrumbing, which a scum-bm could later on use by saying "look, he tried to make me look bad and he was mafia, so i must be town". Just look at the scum-qt of assassination-mafia. bm is perfectly capable of hatching such a plan and scott - already not excited about having rolled scum - would have happily followed, since he wouldn't let his team completely hanging.

I guess all i am saying is, that we can't really interpret anything into scotts posts, because him leaving the thread and giving up is most likely a thing, he discussed with his teammates, so there surely was a plan about how he should behave in the few posts he made, which is why everything he said could be interpreted one way or the other.