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sicklucker
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May 14 2015 11:56 GMT
#24
/in!
sicklucker
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May 19 2015 23:22 GMT
#97
in
sicklucker
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May 21 2015 21:18 GMT
#118
sicklucker
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May 21 2015 22:00 GMT
#122
1st
sicklucker
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May 21 2015 22:06 GMT
#124
sicklucker
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May 21 2015 22:07 GMT
#127
like wth is the theme of this game who are these cute lil anime girls and how are they not creepy
sicklucker
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May 21 2015 22:22 GMT
#131
disinfo you gonna correctly read me town again?
sicklucker
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May 21 2015 22:24 GMT
#132
Im giving disinfo my classic cheap town read.

Reasons hes in the thread asap and not basking in the wonders of seeing a scum qt for the first time.
sicklucker
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May 21 2015 22:33 GMT
#135
im glad joke votes are stilll a thing
sicklucker
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May 21 2015 22:33 GMT
#136
(but lets not confuse the first timers)
sicklucker
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May 21 2015 23:36 GMT
#162
On May 22 2015 07:45 Breshke wrote:
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On May 22 2015 07:24 sicklucker wrote:
Im giving disinfo my classic cheap town read.

Reasons hes in the thread asap and not basking in the wonders of seeing a scum qt for the first time.


he would have had 24 to get over the wonders of a scum qt though.

Also Hi


ahhhh maybe your right. I dumbtelled!
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 21 2015 23:37 GMT
#163
On May 22 2015 08:08 Breshke wrote:
Oh yeah and SL is mafia

##Vote Sicklucker


what? you say i dumbtelled then you vote me? what?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 21 2015 23:38 GMT
#164
Breske realizes scum qt was given out 24 hours ago. Would he be this blatantly obv as scum? bunnies are you the veg because you might need to shoot him again
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 22 2015 00:20 GMT
#176
On May 22 2015 08:46 Tictock wrote:
SL what do you think of BM's vote on bunnies then?

He is serious you know...


no hes a troll
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 22 2015 00:21 GMT
#177
On May 22 2015 08:48 Breshke wrote:
It also says the all Qts were active in the like initial start of game post.

I'm not going to read you for a dumbbell SL I'm going to read you on giving nonsensical town reads and not thinking critically about the game


well you should because thats how you read me town
sicklucker
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Canada16987 Posts
May 22 2015 00:22 GMT
#178
On May 22 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote:
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On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.

Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.

##vote: sicklucker


I really like this post and not even because it's telling people to vote SL the thought process is spot on.


its really nothing special. And im already playing and trying so its pretty pointless
sicklucker
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Canada16987 Posts
May 22 2015 00:49 GMT
#181
On May 22 2015 09:30 Breshke wrote:
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On May 22 2015 09:22 sicklucker wrote:
On May 22 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote:
On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.

Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.

##vote: sicklucker


I really like this post and not even because it's telling people to vote SL the thought process is spot on.


its really nothing special. And im already playing and trying so its pretty pointless


Trying?

Saying your town for dumbtelling when its completly within your ability to do it as scum and your only read being that im scum for not calling you town for said dumbtell. I don't call that trying.

I get it is early but do you have opinions on anyone? What do you think of disinfo now that the QT thing has been corrected?


town points for not realizing their was a scum qt up for 24 hours like any town should
sicklucker
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May 22 2015 02:08 GMT
#202
On May 22 2015 10:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Disinformation the game so far has been people reacting to a post batsnacks has , premade,

Sicklucker is someone I want to see more from

The scum qt thing I agree with because I didn't realize it would have been open either considering town couldn't talk ......


then why are you voting me? explain
sicklucker
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May 22 2015 02:09 GMT
#204
On May 22 2015 10:25 Breshke wrote:
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On May 22 2015 09:49 sicklucker wrote:
On May 22 2015 09:30 Breshke wrote:
On May 22 2015 09:22 sicklucker wrote:
On May 22 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote:
On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.

Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.

##vote: sicklucker


I really like this post and not even because it's telling people to vote SL the thought process is spot on.


its really nothing special. And im already playing and trying so its pretty pointless


Trying?

Saying your town for dumbtelling when its completly within your ability to do it as scum and your only read being that im scum for not calling you town for said dumbtell. I don't call that trying.

I get it is early but do you have opinions on anyone? What do you think of disinfo now that the QT thing has been corrected?


town points for not realizing their was a scum qt up for 24 hours like any town should


Scum points for still not saying anything useful and continuing to say you are town because of a dumbtell


since when do you even have high standards from me?
sicklucker
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May 22 2015 02:10 GMT
#205
On May 22 2015 10:33 Tictock wrote:
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On May 22 2015 10:24 Sulfurus wrote:
@sicklucker is it not normal for the mafia QT to be open during pregame b/c if it is you shouldn't have made that dumbtell
also ##Vote: Breshke


Welcome to the thread! Wth is this vote?

@BM
I'm just trying to get something a little more solid from ya since there is a bit of stuff to look over now. I feel you've satisfied that for now.

## Unvote


the best vote in the thread imo. Was it a pocket attempt maybe? but hes new so I doubt it breske looks pretty bad so im not surprised
sicklucker
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May 22 2015 02:11 GMT
#206
On May 22 2015 10:37 Breshke wrote:
This is from the Prologue post

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Now entering silent pregame phase. No posting anything except popcorn in the thread, please.
Role PMs will be going out soon. Scum, mason and coaching QTs, where applicable, are open for business.
A gentle reminder: do not mention coaching in the thread.


do you honestly think I ever read the op? like you know I dont comeon I dumbtell everygame and its always legit but you never accept it the next time it happen
sicklucker
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May 22 2015 02:20 GMT
#207
On May 22 2015 10:24 Sulfurus wrote:
@sicklucker is it not normal for the mafia QT to be open during pregame b/c if it is you shouldn't have made that dumbtell
also ##Vote: Breshke


actually I forgot their was coaches. It looks coached This was probably a pocket attempt. No one ever agrees with me unless they have a motive. Also I think breskes town because if his mafia game is to attack me of all people in a newbie game with really weak reasons I will berate him post game so hes probably town.

Sulfurus

Sulfurus I got a n0 red check no you what say you?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 22 2015 02:22 GMT
#208
oh I totally took that post out of context hes asking me a qeustion pretty poor writinng . Oh well easy to read me town off that
sicklucker
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May 22 2015 02:29 GMT
#210
i read the thread in order of posts so yes I did read after.

Breske heres something you have to know about me. I play mafia on 2+2 as well. Their they run nightly turbos that last an hour. I have probably played 50 of them. In them youh ave to make quick "thin" reads to get anything done. its what im used to and its what I always do on this site as well as both alignment.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 22 2015 02:37 GMT
#212
im so town it hurts
sicklucker
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May 22 2015 02:38 GMT
#213
unvote
sicklucker
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May 22 2015 02:41 GMT
#216
Well your post agreed and sided with me. This happens so unoften tome that when it does happen I instantly think its a pocket attempt (attempt by a mafia to suck up to me)
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 22 2015 02:43 GMT
#218
I said it was the best because he called breskes posts bullshit and they are. I still think hes town tho
sicklucker
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May 22 2015 02:46 GMT
#220
ya thats not a fakeclaim thats a newbieetrick/joke. It probably never works tho
sicklucker
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May 22 2015 02:54 GMT
#224
On May 22 2015 11:48 Tictock wrote:
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On May 22 2015 11:43 sicklucker wrote:
I said it was the best because he called breskes posts bullshit and they are. I still think hes town tho


SL, Sul hadn't commented about Bre's posts till after you made that statement. Tell us what you really were thinking when posting that rather than retconning it with stuff you know now.

Starting to see shades of red in ya.


He voted breske it was obv to me why
sicklucker
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May 22 2015 02:55 GMT
#225
On May 22 2015 11:50 Tictock wrote:
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On May 22 2015 11:49 plotspot wrote:
oh lawl game has started, but I have to go to sleep now, see you tomorrow
*celebrate good times come on*


This is just asking for Plynch, no?


nope...
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 22 2015 03:13 GMT
#229
I mean how else can I explain it? I knew what he ment im sorry you didnt. Try not to make a game of mafia personal like last time gotta enjoy
sicklucker
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May 22 2015 03:30 GMT
#244
Plots one post was so null it hurts
sicklucker
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May 22 2015 03:54 GMT
#253
ya bunnies looks pretty bad
sicklucker
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May 22 2015 03:57 GMT
#254
plots post seemed legit. he forgot the game started as he was about ot go to bed. If your mafia you probably dont do that because you look bad. If your town you dont give a shit and your tired
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 22 2015 04:27 GMT
#259
bill murray is lynch bait.

definition - a guy who always looks scummy and gets lynched

not saying dont lynch him but keep that in mind
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 22 2015 08:23 GMT
#272
Hes right tho I would never get lynched. But we have been t/t in like 10 games and hes never used this tactic before so why now? seems kind of fake.

Did you guys just plan your list posts in the qt or something
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 22 2015 08:27 GMT
#274
Like rels townread on barokos is given so easy and he posted like 6 minutes before he posted that huge list post.

So were to believe he wrote that in 6 minutes or was nonstop pressing f5 to see if anyone posts as he made his list post?

Potentially planned their stock as potential teammates went up
sicklucker
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May 22 2015 08:28 GMT
#276
Rels voting a 0 poster is -ev. Better to vote someone you slightly suspect then a 0 poster that might be replaced or modkilled.

Dont be afraid now
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 22 2015 08:31 GMT
#279
Well no shit. It is a little suspecious tho
sicklucker
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May 22 2015 08:58 GMT
#287
On May 22 2015 17:48 Rels wrote:
What is -ev btw ?


below expected value. It just means its not a good lynch based on numbers. If theirs a chance he can be modkilled even if small its a waste of a lynch
sicklucker
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May 22 2015 20:40 GMT
#410
On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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On May 22 2015 22:22 disformation wrote:
Okay. bunnies time.

On May 22 2015 07:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
EBWOP:

Scum
#Vote: Sicklucker

Starts with randomly voting sicklucker. kay. Pretty NAI imo.

On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 22 2015 08:08 Breshke wrote:
Oh yeah and SL is mafia

##Vote Sicklucker


Glad we can agree on something. Though I am curious, why do you think he is mafia?
I saw something about dumbtelling, but I am unsure exactly what the dumbtell was on.

Agrees with Breshke. Not seeing why. Apparently even Bunnies was not sure why they are agreeing. Not being sure about the dumbtell is a sign of not reading properly. Which I don't like either.

On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 22 2015 08:38 sicklucker wrote:
Breske realizes scum qt was given out 24 hours ago. Would he be this blatantly obv as scum? bunnies are you the veg because you might need to shoot him again


I will neither confirm nor deny I am a role. I'll leave that up for mafia to decide.
However, I could possibly be down for a breshke lynch if we don't lynch you today.

I see a bus in the midst.

From the same post as last quote. First agrees with Breshke and then is like "nah, let us lynch you". Because "I see a bus"?

On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Everyone who is considered a newbie, answer this: What is the most important thing you think has happened in the game so far?

I like this question. But it is a really general question. Not sure if it would be hard for mafia to ask stuff like this.

On May 22 2015 11:09 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Give me substance BM! I know you can do it!

I agree, but again this is a question Mafia could also have asked easily.

On May 22 2015 11:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Sulfurus top town newbie read.
Not lynching for entire game.

Or maybe atleast 2 days

Then this. Can't see how Sulfurus can be seen as more townie than ticktoc of that one post... that had a strange thing in it (the accusation thing I explained earlier)? Pocket attempt? Was the question a setup for Sulfurus they agreed on in their QT? Me no like.

On May 22 2015 12:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 22 2015 12:43 Breshke wrote:
On May 22 2015 12:30 sicklucker wrote:
Plots one post was so null it hurts


I agree

What do you think about bunnies saying she didn't know what reasons I was pushing you for but then going on to say that she would lunch both of us because she thought it could be a bus before I clarified the reason


This is a great question!


+ Show Spoiler +
And you fell right into my reaction trap. Breshke, what do YOU think of this?+ Show Spoiler +

When asked about stuff that I also pointed out the reaction is total deflection and trying to laugh it of. Me no like.


In my book bunnies is not looking good at all. Totally leaning scum. I need to look at a few other ppl, but I guess I am willing to vote on bunnies as of now.



Okay, so let's look at this post.

First off, I actually like you. I disagree with the pushon you.

Secondly, the vote on SL was due to him first coming into the thread with "Confirmed town".
Troll post=troll vote.

However, I haven't moved my vote on SL because SL hasn't done anything to prove to me he is town. I'll go over this a bit later.

When saying Breshke and SL were partners, in part I was joking. I was trying to get some type of reaction from SL, which if I remember correctly I don't think I ever got. It was Breshke that actually started questioning this, which I really REALLY like of Breshke. As SL said, I shot him as vig in a previous game, he was mafia. I usually have a good read on Breshke, and this questioning makes me think that Breshke is town.

So even if I didn't get information out of SL from this (SL prob still my top lynch, followed by newbie Boxer for that awful first couple of posts), I did get information on Breshke's alignment.


acualy I just said first. I never said I saw town ;p
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 22 2015 20:50 GMT
#411
why is this entire thread talking about me I didnt do anything interesting.

I would prefer it if we just shot.cop checked bill murray instead of lynching him so we have to acualy play the game and not policy lynch him like every other game hes in
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 22 2015 20:53 GMT
#412
On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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On May 22 2015 22:22 disformation wrote:
Okay. bunnies time.

On May 22 2015 07:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
EBWOP:

Scum
#Vote: Sicklucker

Starts with randomly voting sicklucker. kay. Pretty NAI imo.

On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 22 2015 08:08 Breshke wrote:
Oh yeah and SL is mafia

##Vote Sicklucker


Glad we can agree on something. Though I am curious, why do you think he is mafia?
I saw something about dumbtelling, but I am unsure exactly what the dumbtell was on.

Agrees with Breshke. Not seeing why. Apparently even Bunnies was not sure why they are agreeing. Not being sure about the dumbtell is a sign of not reading properly. Which I don't like either.

On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 22 2015 08:38 sicklucker wrote:
Breske realizes scum qt was given out 24 hours ago. Would he be this blatantly obv as scum? bunnies are you the veg because you might need to shoot him again


I will neither confirm nor deny I am a role. I'll leave that up for mafia to decide.
However, I could possibly be down for a breshke lynch if we don't lynch you today.

I see a bus in the midst.

From the same post as last quote. First agrees with Breshke and then is like "nah, let us lynch you". Because "I see a bus"?

On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Everyone who is considered a newbie, answer this: What is the most important thing you think has happened in the game so far?

I like this question. But it is a really general question. Not sure if it would be hard for mafia to ask stuff like this.

On May 22 2015 11:09 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Give me substance BM! I know you can do it!

I agree, but again this is a question Mafia could also have asked easily.

On May 22 2015 11:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Sulfurus top town newbie read.
Not lynching for entire game.

Or maybe atleast 2 days

Then this. Can't see how Sulfurus can be seen as more townie than ticktoc of that one post... that had a strange thing in it (the accusation thing I explained earlier)? Pocket attempt? Was the question a setup for Sulfurus they agreed on in their QT? Me no like.

On May 22 2015 12:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 22 2015 12:43 Breshke wrote:
On May 22 2015 12:30 sicklucker wrote:
Plots one post was so null it hurts


I agree

What do you think about bunnies saying she didn't know what reasons I was pushing you for but then going on to say that she would lunch both of us because she thought it could be a bus before I clarified the reason


This is a great question!


+ Show Spoiler +
And you fell right into my reaction trap. Breshke, what do YOU think of this?+ Show Spoiler +

When asked about stuff that I also pointed out the reaction is total deflection and trying to laugh it of. Me no like.


In my book bunnies is not looking good at all. Totally leaning scum. I need to look at a few other ppl, but I guess I am willing to vote on bunnies as of now.



Okay, so let's look at this post.

First off, I actually like you. I disagree with the pushon you.

Secondly, the vote on SL was due to him first coming into the thread with "Confirmed town".
Troll post=troll vote.


However, I haven't moved my vote on SL because SL hasn't done anything to prove to me he is town. I'll go over this a bit later.

When saying Breshke and SL were partners, in part I was joking. I was trying to get some type of reaction from SL, which if I remember correctly I don't think I ever got. It was Breshke that actually started questioning this, which I really REALLY like of Breshke. As SL said, I shot him as vig in a previous game, he was mafia. I usually have a good read on Breshke, and this questioning makes me think that Breshke is town.

So even if I didn't get information out of SL from this (SL prob still my top lynch, followed by newbie Boxer for that awful first couple of posts), I did get information on Breshke's alignment.



this is acualy a complete lie. Im not sure why she wuold llie here

On May 22 2015 07:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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On May 22 2015 07:00 sicklucker wrote:
1st


Scum


thats like all I posted not sure how that can be interpreted as trolling or saying im town. I ignored bunnies because what she did was worthy of ignoring I have a small scum lean on her
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 22 2015 20:55 GMT
#413
On May 22 2015 22:52 disformation wrote:
Ah cool, you are here bunnies.

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On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, so let's look at this post.

First off, I actually like you. I disagree with the pushon you.

Noted. Could be an attempt to please me, so I stop pushing you.

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On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Secondly, the vote on SL was due to him first coming into the thread with "Confirmed town".
Troll post=troll vote.

Yup. That is why I called it NAI.

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
However, I haven't moved my vote on SL because SL hasn't done anything to prove to me he is town. I'll go over this a bit later.

Looking forward to see that.

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On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
When saying Breshke and SL were partners, in part I was joking. I was trying to get some type of reaction from SL, which if I remember correctly I don't think I ever got. It was Breshke that actually started questioning this, which I really REALLY like of Breshke. As SL said, I shot him as vig in a previous game, he was mafia. I usually have a good read on Breshke, and this questioning makes me think that Breshke is town.

So even if I didn't get information out of SL from this (SL prob still my top lynch, followed by newbie Boxer for that awful first couple of posts), I did get information on Breshke's alignment.


I really like this answer.
Haven't looked much at boxer yet, could you highlight some things that sprung out for you? I skimmed it and I didn't see anything that would strongly lead me in either direction. Though he could be mafia trying to play the newb card?



what? now people are sheeping a read that was made up?
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#415
vote count? anyone voting disinfo? I might

disinfo can you list your read. I have no idea what your reads are and you posted alot not a good sign
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#416
On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Secondly, the vote on SL was due to him first coming into the thread with "Confirmed town".
Troll post=troll vote.

Yup. That is why I called it NAI.
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May 22 2015 21:05 GMT
#418
Well apparently its might job to do things and earn an unvote! I have done alot more then bunnies tho so thats ironic
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May 22 2015 21:05 GMT
#419
Disinfo can you list your reads quick while your here?
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May 22 2015 21:18 GMT
#421
Hum barakos might be scum of the none lurkers / look like shit players. ill reread him when im back later.
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May 23 2015 00:36 GMT
#453
bill murray can you lead us to victory
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May 23 2015 00:37 GMT
#454
its not a"tmi" slip. I just think bm gets lynched as town quite often. I never said he was town i just said you have to have lower standards with him and use judgement
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May 23 2015 00:39 GMT
#455
Like slips dont exist. Ive been right on 1 of 20 slips I thought i saw and it was last night in another game
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May 23 2015 01:07 GMT
#461
On May 23 2015 09:11 Bill Murray wrote:
im home and i have my computer set up at my new house
score


still waiting
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May 23 2015 01:45 GMT
#466
im not sure that charts gonna be useful but i wont vote you for making it
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May 23 2015 01:46 GMT
#467
no one is allowed to vote plots today maybe ever
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May 23 2015 01:52 GMT
#470
plots never mafia here. like ill kill you if you try to kill him. It takes a very special kind of person to do this as mafia and hes not proven as one of them.

I acualy see what hes trying to do with the chart. looking for who ignores who. But now that its out in the open mafia will spam their team mates
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May 23 2015 01:57 GMT
#471
plot what are your actual reads tho? now that I know your town im super curious.
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May 23 2015 02:50 GMT
#477
ya of course i ignore batsnacks lol
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May 23 2015 02:50 GMT
#478
i think disinfo could be scum
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#490
On May 23 2015 12:03 batsnacks wrote:
##vote sicklucker

ignore this it's nothing

+ Show Spoiler +
but I'm probably not switching



wut in the world...
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#491
On May 23 2015 12:13 Breshke wrote:
##Unvote

Forgot to do this last night already gave a reason for it,

I agree plot is almost never mafia now although that might have to be reconsidered later.

Also I really have a town boner about bats like idk if its because it is a newbie game or what but you just seem to be playing different this game and I really like it. I asked bunnies specifically about bats because they both kind of did a thing where they asked a question to try get reads of newbies like a general sort of thing and wanted to see if that had any effect on bunnies read to see if she noticed but apprently she didnt. That doesn't really say much though.

So people that arn't getting lynched today are as follow
Breshke
Tictock
Bats
Boxerfred (mainly because of bats) I would still like to know what the playstyle is like at the other place you play like how do votes work




throw me in the list and i dont hate it
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May 23 2015 04:10 GMT
#492
I have given a read to every single player in the game. im sorry if you dont read my posts ill repost them all together later
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May 23 2015 04:14 GMT
#493
one of bunnies or disinfo are scum

probably disinfo
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May 23 2015 04:16 GMT
#494
bats disinfo or bunnies + one of bm or the new guys I havent bother to read at all outside of sulp

Can we just vote bats your townread on him makes no sense breske
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#495
On May 23 2015 02:56 batsnacks wrote:
SL is null still. I never really had a reason to scum read him I sort of just voted him to vote someone.

I'm looking at sulfur and Scott until they post something that sticks in my memory. When I find time I need to read bunnies filter and sort out some of the stuff I saw when I was skimming. I'm off work in like 3 hours I can only really briefly respond/snark at stuff until then.


I thought i was still null bats? OOPPS
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May 23 2015 04:19 GMT
#496
like that post...

batsnacks

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Lets look at bats read progresion on me

On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.

Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.

##vote: sicklucker


0 scum read on me 100% presure vote

On May 23 2015 02:56 batsnacks wrote:
SL is null still. I never really had a reason to scum read him I sort of just voted him to vote someone.

I'm looking at sulfur and Scott until they post something that sticks in my memory. When I find time I need to read bunnies filter and sort out some of the stuff I saw when I was skimming. I'm off work in like 3 hours I can only really briefly respond/snark at stuff until then.


Still no read on me admits his vote on me means nothing


On May 23 2015 12:20 batsnacks wrote:
Let's lynch SL seriously. Town SL takes being scum read way more personally than he has this game. Scott is a fine vote too and so is BM at this point but I'm really feeling SL if he thinks he can ignore pressure and do nothing.


Has not mentioned me since all of a sudden he drops this post which conveniently is similar to thread setiment

Ya ok bats ok. I think hes a mafia with a made up read here following a few donkeys who cant read my obv town play
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#500
People are suggesting me for a lynch/talking about me in every other post... it looks like i can get lynched here then he fabricates a scum read on me.
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May 23 2015 04:32 GMT
#501
Like heres bats logic. "sick lucker can never get lynched if hes town lets just vote him"

into

"screw it lets just kill sicklucker hes ignoring presure even tho he has 0 votes

lol pressure im not under any real threat here ill bust it open if I feel threatened
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May 23 2015 05:10 GMT
#503
in his opinion there is. not in my opinion

but say hes mafia he has to push someone
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May 23 2015 11:01 GMT
#527
On May 23 2015 16:32 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 13:19 sicklucker wrote:
like that post...

batsnacks



SL this post here. Is it ment to be you voting batsnacks? I assume this is you being confused because you play on 2 + 2 aswell and if it is im not sure how you havnt noticed that none of your votes count nor the wraning from the host that said to format your shit correctly.

So you have either never voted which is retarded because you have posted so much so what would all the posting have been for you arn't pushing shit nor trying to work out the game.

Or you have been trying to vote and have not been paying attention to the thread hardly at all to realize that you havn't been doing it correctly. Which would be scummy because once again you havn't been trying to figure out the game.


stfu

##vote batsnacks

2+2 vote format way better it is true
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May 23 2015 11:07 GMT
#529
Bats whats your acual scum read on me because I dont believe it. Sell me
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May 23 2015 11:09 GMT
#530
God scott has 3 posts. why do you do this scott? we pretty much just have to vote you
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May 23 2015 11:16 GMT
#533
##unvote ##vote scott

Ya whatever. On a quick reread disinfo filter is not really bad. No way we cant kill scott here. I think a policy lynch is fine I have no high percentage flips in my mind
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#554
7 posts? I got out of my nap for this?
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#555
On May 23 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:
Yo a quick post and I'll be gone until the deadline. Hope I can be around just before but no guarantee.

First scott still haven't showed up and answered the questions ... questions he asked for in his last post may I remind you. So I'm happy to see him lynch atm.

Second I don't like this wagon on disformation at all. The only one with arguments is Barakos so I'm not suspicious of him, but the other two I am (27nb and plotspot). I don't like plotspot voting on an analysis made on the first hours of the game.

Talking about plotspot. Woaw that's a lot of work. But I agree with ticktock's thoughts on him in his list post. Don't have a lot of time so you will have to find it yourself. To summarize what I liked about his argument:
What plotspot did takes a lot of work. But he doesn't push any agenda and it's pretty non alignment indicative. If all a mafia has to do to look town is to make pretty graphics that takes 6 hours to make, we wouldn't catch any. So I agree to not lynch him today but he's not town forever for me.

Last about SL. Again (= I don't like that he says "plotspot is town forever maybe" and then he says "what you did doesn't bring a lot to the table". I don't like how he responded to batsnacks' pressure.

Sorry about the lack of quotes I have to go. My list lynch is:
Scott
BM
SL

See you tonight, hopefully before EOD! Have a good day (=


ya scum would be
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May 23 2015 20:46 GMT
#556
Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin
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May 23 2015 20:57 GMT
#561
ya shes probably town. I liked a few of her reads. I was a lil paranoid of her from some ogi reasons
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#562
I dont thint you can say batsnacks was trolling me. He ment what he said at the time
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#565
On May 23 2015 20:11 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 20:07 sicklucker wrote:
Bats whats your acual scum read on me because I dont believe it. Sell me


idk I was just drunk and messing around on my phone and was like "SL thinks he can ignore me eh, well let's see him ignore this."

Then I thought about it some more and was like maybe that was a mistake.

Then I thought about it even more and was like nah can't be that bad SL usually freaks out way more then he has when people scum read him for what he thinks are unreasonable reasons.


Here hes clearly saying he ment it at the time
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#567
On May 24 2015 06:04 Sulfurus wrote:
I admit even I am confused as to why NinjaBunnies is defending me so hard; right now the only vote on her is Tictock (someone who I have had a townread on longer then anyone else) but she is definitely someone who needs to be looked at later.

For me the the person with the most useful reads and my top town is Barakos; he was the one who helped me townread Breshke and scumread Disformation with this post, he has shown a healthy suspicion of NinjaBunnies, and he influenced me to un-vote BM, along with SL, with his coinflip argument (for the record I still think SL is town).

My favorite Barakos post so far is this one right here especially the Batsnacks part which shows how scummy he truly is (Bat's overly defensive reactions in posts 538 & 539 don't help his case either) so while he won't get lynched today I'll definitely be pushing for his death tomorrow.

##Vote: Batsnacks


Your first post screamed pretty obv town and me and bunnies picked that up. Thats one of the reads I liked about her
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May 23 2015 21:08 GMT
#569
Ticktock is town this game but he will probably mafia side since im town and he really does not like me lol
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#570
On May 24 2015 06:06 Tictock wrote:
Also SL, you seriously forgot how to format votes here?

Like we played in the same game a week ago and I know your not new to these forums/games...


yes I did. I mentioned I played like 100 1 hour mafia games on another site. Alot of your questions are so pointless so maybe thats why I ignore you sometimes and rub you the wrong way
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May 23 2015 21:33 GMT
#577
On May 24 2015 06:18 Tictock wrote:
Lol SL, i actually don't mind when you ignore me so much. It's when you try to act like your so infallible or whatever that I get bothered. Actually now that I've had a couple of games to learn how to read and approach you I don't mind you so much.

I'll admit, when you post stuff like this
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 11:54 sicklucker wrote:
On May 22 2015 11:48 Tictock wrote:
On May 22 2015 11:43 sicklucker wrote:
I said it was the best because he called breskes posts bullshit and they are. I still think hes town tho


SL, Sul hadn't commented about Bre's posts till after you made that statement. Tell us what you really were thinking when posting that rather than retconning it with stuff you know now.

Starting to see shades of red in ya.


He voted breske it was obv to me why

It rubs me the wrong way, but then I suppose I had a similar reaction to BS's vote on you. To me it was obv that he just wanted to bug you but you're very sure that he wants to lynch you (even though he moved his vote)


i just think theirs a strong possiblity he back tracked. im pretty undecided im not voting him
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May 23 2015 21:37 GMT
#580
bat tracked*
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May 23 2015 21:40 GMT
#581
well at least its less likely scotts a role. I assume even he would be more careful but idk
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May 23 2015 22:10 GMT
#605
amazing
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May 23 2015 22:14 GMT
#608
If your a town veg and dont know who to shoot you can just hardclaim now and discuss it without a roleblocker.

Confirmed not veg dont shoot me mafia. Out for the night in a few
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May 23 2015 22:25 GMT
#612
you can. mafia wont shoot you because theirs other roles and we have a confirmed town to lead us its really fine.

If you dont claim your setting mafia up for easy counterclaims.

I think I know about this better the you no offense. Im not saying you have to im saying you can
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May 23 2015 22:25 GMT
#614
On May 24 2015 07:23 Tictock wrote:
100% willing to Lynch SL tomorrow based off that one post btw.


lol ive asked the veg to claim in 3 of my laast 4 games now because they should
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May 23 2015 22:28 GMT
#615
mafia games/theory thought by sicklucker - alot
mafia games/theory thought by tictock - 1 game

I dont think you should tell me the mechanics of this game
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May 23 2015 22:29 GMT
#616
I mostly said it incase the veg is someone new. We can discuss it together with literally no drawback
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May 23 2015 22:34 GMT
#618
If mafia kills the vig tonight thats good.. he still gets off his shot and are that would mean are other role/roles are safe...
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#650
On May 24 2015 07:57 Rels wrote:
Yeah for scum lynched (= happy about that.

I think vig should not claim before shooting.

Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 07:25 sicklucker wrote:
you can. mafia wont shoot you because theirs other roles and we have a confirmed town to lead us its really fine.

I would agree if we were sur to have a doc. But we don't know that it is not an open setup.

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On May 24 2015 07:34 sicklucker wrote:
If mafia kills the vig tonight thats good.. he still gets off his shot and are that would mean are other role/roles are safe...

No it's not good.

Vig should claim day 2 if he shooted:
- if he is not counter claimed, we have a confirmed blue
- if he is counter claimed, we have another scum lynch in day 3 in the worst scenario.


doc is irrelevant because he can get his shot off anyway. im drunk but whos here?
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#651
On May 24 2015 08:11 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 08:03 disformation wrote:
Well. 1/3 mafia down.


Do we have confirmation it is 3 mafia ?
I mean, that's what I assume too, but is it written anywhere ?


yes its going to always be 3 mafia in 13 player format but if theirs a sk then 2? im not getting many mafia reads so thats possible.
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#653
On May 24 2015 08:26 Breshke wrote:
No one need to claim anything if mafia claims Vigi on their night kill the lack of another kill would be fairly obvious.

Never listen to SL about mechanics. He rarely thinks about what he says.


MWAHAHHAHAHAAHHA

true but im still right
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May 24 2015 06:36 GMT
#654
rels was my lynch bro
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#658
On May 24 2015 08:58 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin


So this post from SL is fairly horrible. Doesn't swap his vote does nothing with his "feeling". This looks very much like scum testing the waters trying to see if people would swap off his buddy.



but i did vote the mafia o.o
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May 24 2015 06:42 GMT
#659
infact I was the hammer of the mafia and batsnackss followed me. I the town hero come at me
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#660
im vulnerable tictock have any questions for me?
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#663
that game breske? I remember bunnies shot you n1 as mafia that was funny. then you got veg shot the next time or 2 time you were mafia ^^

no hammer scott was an easy p lynch but i clearly put it over the top
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#665
On May 24 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 11:50 sicklucker wrote:
i think disinfo could be scum


Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
one of bunnies or disinfo are scum

probably disinfo


Has a shitty push on disinfo doesn't explain anything or put any effort into getting him lynched just faking suspicion to seem town.

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 20:16 sicklucker wrote:
##unvote ##vote scott

Ya whatever. On a quick reread disinfo filter is not really bad. No way we cant kill scott here. I think a policy lynch is fine I have no high percentage flips in my mind


Backs of his shitty read again with no reasoning when wagon seems to be going against his partner. Starts bussing to get towncred.

Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin


Tries to push rels AGAIN with no reasoning. Does not put any effort into getting rels lynched instead of scott even though scott is just a policy lynch for him and rels he genuinely thinks is scum.

SL is not trying to work out the game he mainly just posts to post. Probably started bussing his partner then tried to see if he could start a different wagon. When noone started biting he just drops it.

[b]We are lynching SL tomorrow[b].


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#667
hes my top scum read wtf is wrong with u
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#668
how mad is banks tho
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#671
totally. but I didnt think of the sk. If their is a sk killing a confirmed town might be good considering town is winning
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#679
On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin


u mad?
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May 24 2015 09:02 GMT
#680
anyway I just lynched mafia what did you do
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#681
to elebarate I was the 4th vote on the mafia. Bats followed me he was the 5th . I was the hammer. get mad mafia
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#685
On May 24 2015 07:04 cakepie wrote:
~ Final Vote Count ~

scott31337 (6) : Rels, batsnacks (X), Tictock (X), Breshke, sicklucker, batsnacks, boxerfred, disformation
disformation (3) : Barakos, Breshke (X), 27ninjabunnies, plotspot
plotspot (1) : Bill Murray, Tictock (X)
27ninjabunnies (1) : Bill Murray (X), Tictock
batsnacks (1) : sicklucker (X), Sulfurus
Bill Murray (0) : Tictock (X), Sulfurus (X), Rels (X), boxerfred (X)
boxerfred (0) : Rels (X)
Breshke (0) : Sulfurus (X)
sicklucker (0) : Breshke (X), batsnacks (X), Bill Murray (X), batsnacks (X)
Sulfurus (0) : disformation (X)

Not voting (1) : scott31337

Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched!


+ Show Spoiler [Details] +
  • Bill Murray -> 27ninjabunnies
  • Breshke -> sicklucker
  • batsnacks -> sicklucker
  • Tictock -> Bill Murray
  • Bill Murray -> sicklucker
  • Sulfurus -> Breshke
  • Tictock -> --
  • Bill Murray -> plotspot
  • Tictock -> plotspot
  • Sulfurus -> Bill Murray
  • Barakos -> disformation
  • Breshke -> disformation
  • Rels -> boxerfred
  • Rels -> Bill Murray
  • boxerfred -> Bill Murray
  • boxerfred -> --
  • Rels -> scott31337
  • batsnacks -> scott31337
  • Sulfurus -> --
  • disformation -> Sulfurus
  • 27ninjabunnies -> disformation
  • plotspot -> disformation
  • Tictock -> --
  • batsnacks -> sicklucker
  • Tictock -> scott31337
  • Breshke -> --
  • Breshke -> scott31337
  • sicklucker -> batsnacks
  • sicklucker -> scott31337
  • batsnacks -> scott31337
  • boxerfred -> scott31337
  • disformation -> scott31337
  • Tictock -> 27ninjabunnies
  • Sulfurus -> batsnacks



this is what a hammer vote looks like newbs. write it in your notepad

I also pressured/encouraged bats into following me
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May 24 2015 09:09 GMT
#686
On May 24 2015 18:04 Rels wrote:
I was the first to post about scott.
I was the first to vote for him.
I'm not advocating a lynch because you didn't vote mafia. I am for 7 reasons listed above.


voting first does not rly mean much. It just means he gave up earlier and asked you to bus him
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May 24 2015 09:17 GMT
#690
On May 24 2015 18:04 Rels wrote:
I was the first to post about scott.
I was the first to vote for him.
I'm not advocating a lynch because you didn't vote mafia. I am for 7 reasons listed above.


being the first to vote the low hanging policy vote isint much tbh. We got lucky as a town even I didnt think hr was a great lynch and I hammered him
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May 24 2015 09:58 GMT
#699
plz dont say the r word o.o
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#700
If i was mafia partners with scott heres what I would do. I would come into the thread near the vote, tell everyone that scott did not vote and will probably be mod killed ( which is acualy something that would have happened) and pushed the vote on a town
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#708
The standard play is not to lynch people who have not voted because their getting mod killed anyway. We got lucky I was bizzy at deadline and didnt get the lynch on disinfo because that would have been the smarter play not knowing scot was mafia
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May 24 2015 10:17 GMT
#709
Replacements are not guaranteed ever. Mod kills are always a possibility and it was a potential wasted lynched even tho we killed mafia because scott might have been mod killed anyway
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May 24 2015 10:39 GMT
#716
its 6am on a saturday night leave me alone im obv not scum. gnight
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May 24 2015 22:54 GMT
#773
I didnt die? cool
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May 24 2015 22:54 GMT
#774
On May 25 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
I'm not going to argue with you why rels would have been a terrible Vigi shot because it isn't useful to talk about. They were clearly town even before the flip he was the one who started the wagon on Scott.

Plot why aren't you voting SL yet? Do you not think he is scum?


why is anyone voting me honestly? can anyone explain?
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May 24 2015 22:57 GMT
#775
anyway if I flip cop remember I have a green check on barkos
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May 24 2015 22:58 GMT
#776
and thats not a claim thats just cop cover that I leave everygame. And when I am the actual seer/cop you know who I did check and theirs not arguments over it
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#778
On May 24 2015 23:06 disformation wrote:
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On May 24 2015 20:38 plotspot wrote:
hi guys, I've reached p23. p24 was where I first published my statistics. EoD was is p30, so I think I will take this too before I post a summary, as well as my reads on the remaining players for D1.


Great, looking forward to that.

Looking at the votes on scott:

rels: pressures all the people with low/zero posts. did put a pressure vote on scott for basically only having 1-2 meh posts. scott tries to get rels off him, by saying he likes rels a lot. rels didn't seem impressed. scott never returns, so rels just keeps his vote on him.

breskhe: also voting for doing jack. but also backs it up with a meta read.
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On May 23 2015 12:21 Breshke wrote:
##Vote scott31337

I agree scott needs to lift his game. So does Bill murray to a degree both these people feel like coinflips at the moment. Like especially scott from just from looking at the three other games he has played seemed to have achieved the longest filter in his 1 town game even though he was only alive for one day compared to his scum games where he survived to D3 yet had a smaller filter.

Oh and he also calls out scott earlier:
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On May 22 2015 17:09 Breshke wrote:
I also kind of don't like this

On May 22 2015 12:00 scott31337 wrote:
On May 22 2015 11:49 plotspot wrote:
oh lawl game has started, but I have to go to sleep now, see you tomorrow
*celebrate good times come on*


What kind of post is this? You weren't even able to post any original thoughts before you left?


When scott leaves right after it after having only one other post. Feels scummy

Liking breshke a lot looking at this.

sicklucker: votes batsnacks, quickly drops that vote. Either a joke vote, or realizing that this wagon won't go anywhere? Looks at the two available wagons, realizes that scott looks worse than me, throws his vote on him. Says N1 that he would have tried to get me lynched instead of scott, if he had been around EoD1. Not sure what to make of him atm. =/

batsnacks: had an earlier vote on scott, after looking at bunnies, sulf and scott. decided to vote scott out of that bunch. Then switches to sicklucker with that one super irritating post.
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On May 23 2015 12:03 batsnacks wrote:
##vote sicklucker

ignore this it's nothing

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but I'm probably not switching

TBH I was thinking batsnacks and sicklucker were just trolling each other there. But sicklucker is still going on about that?
Well, batsnacks drops this vote on sicklucker super fast and votes scott with:
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On May 23 2015 20:14 batsnacks wrote:
In all seriousness I can't vote SL or anyone for that matter over scott if he's not going to post before deadline. Even what he has is scummy.

Since this aligns with his previous vote/read and the sicklucker vote was just a troll, I think this looks legit.

boxerfred: annouces that he will vote for an inactive person with:
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On May 23 2015 17:03 boxerfred wrote:
I think I'll vote for whoever is really inactive. That's like the safest way to not lose someone who's really valuable.

goes ahead and votes scott:
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On May 23 2015 21:41 boxerfred wrote:
Okay. So ##vote scott31337 it is. I'll try to chime in before EOD to check if he posted something, however, I won't have the time to post for the next 6-8 hours. gonna be close.

Expresses some doubts here:
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On May 24 2015 06:47 boxerfred wrote:
wow back just in time. so we still coinflip on scott - i don't like this since it's really ruining the game. Is that where modkills apply?

So... he goes from "I'll vote for whoever is really inactiv", which can imply "regardless of alignment" to "oh wow I really don't like to coinflip on the most inactive person ever."
Not really liking this. boxerfred, I would love to explain your train of thought on this.

If someone arrives at other conclusions from the votes, I would be down to talk about that. Will do some chores now so:


me unvoting bats is non alignment related. I relized he was not gonna get any votes and my vote was wasted. so i unvote their as town or mafia because its a wasted vote.

I said I was considering voting you did I ever tho? no because before I voted you I read your filter and decided you were not a great vote and then I lynched scum.
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#779
Im not gonna argue over a check I did or did not make. but why would I not check one of the new players I cant read with a scum lean on?
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May 24 2015 23:07 GMT
#780
If im mafia whos my partner here? everyones voted me at some point of the game now.

Me and bunnies would not be that obv.

I sapose I could be with bm? why dont you just vote him first
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May 24 2015 23:08 GMT
#782
also this is ogi. But I would like to think scott would be exited to role mafia with me and would not post 3 times and die
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May 24 2015 23:15 GMT
#785
I reread his filter. I have given more reads then you wtf are you talking about
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May 24 2015 23:18 GMT
#787
I think we lynch between bats/bm boxerfred?

a bunnies lynch wouldnt make me happy but I wouldnt cry about it
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May 24 2015 23:18 GMT
#789
On May 25 2015 08:15 plotspot wrote:
I never understood what you mean by ogi? Can you explain that technicality?


scott always says im really smart as mafia so I feel like he wouldnt play like that if he was my partner because he would have higher expectations
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May 24 2015 23:23 GMT
#792
breskes never ever correctly read me as scum. When I have been scum I have beaten him and when I was town he tried to get me mislynched at one point in everrygame. So if your sheeping that might be a bad idea
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May 24 2015 23:24 GMT
#793
On May 25 2015 08:22 batsnacks wrote:
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On May 25 2015 08:18 sicklucker wrote:
I think we lynch between bats/bm boxerfred?

a bunnies lynch wouldnt make me happy but I wouldnt cry about it


What did you think of bm's big post where he went all james joyce?


didnt read yet
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May 24 2015 23:25 GMT
#794
ok wow thats a big post. So i cant be scum with bm now. Whos my partner?
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May 24 2015 23:32 GMT
#800
Lets say im mafia who here can even be my partner?

2) Tictock like never my partner he has too many petty arguments againt me and votes me
4) plotspot Pushing me today
5) boxerfred acual this one makes some sense good thing im not scum
6) disformation hes pushing/voting me
7) Barakos would I check my team mate? Also probably pushing me im not sure
8) Sulfurus Who cares hes town
9) 27ninjabunnies Dont think we would be that obv
10) Bill Murray Im his only push apparently. I think hes the vote today
11) Breshke woulda rage quit if he was my partner
13) batsnacks pretty sure hes trying to lynch me. I voted him he voted me
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May 24 2015 23:32 GMT
#801
On May 25 2015 08:31 plotspot wrote:
thanks for the explanation SL, but I still don't understand what the word "ogi" means.


google? out of game info
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#802
On May 25 2015 08:31 batsnacks wrote:
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On May 25 2015 08:25 sicklucker wrote:
ok wow thats a big post. So i cant be scum with bm now. Whos my partner?


He had many similar posts in his last game as mafia in assassination.


him pushing me here makes him much more likely to be mafia since im town and have like 6 prevotes
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May 24 2015 23:35 GMT
#803
##vote bill murray
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May 24 2015 23:35 GMT
#804
also that nk was so bad. lol mafia
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May 24 2015 23:37 GMT
#806
also I think its fairly obv theres masons in the game and i know who you are. If i was mafia id kill you
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May 24 2015 23:41 GMT
#808
Anyone still think im mafia. You have to find a possible partner for me

I was one of the first to give townreads on sulp/ plot (everyone copied my townread on those two) and one of the first on tictock since people forget the reads I have made
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May 24 2015 23:42 GMT
#809
No im not a veg or a mason I might be a cop or a doctor tho!
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May 24 2015 23:50 GMT
#812
haha how funny would that be.

But im never scum because I didnt know about the scum qt. I got my role pm 24 hours before but I never conisidered if there was a scum qt up because I am not mafia.

Like this is a legit dumb tell. I have never made a dumbtell up this means im town its not rocket science
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May 24 2015 23:56 GMT
#814
do you rly think im mafia? im right here to talk
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May 25 2015 00:11 GMT
#825
well if you havent noticed I dont rly care about my appearance I want to win the game and find scum
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May 25 2015 00:12 GMT
#826
I did think plot voted me tho. Someone was asked to vote me then did I sapose it was someone else all new players look the same to me
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May 25 2015 00:14 GMT
#829
no bill my reason for voting you is very clear. Mafias 100% voting me its the only way they can win the game. The other people voting me are unlynchable atm and way more town read.
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May 25 2015 00:15 GMT
#831
bill do you have any reads outside of me? who town whos my partner?
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May 25 2015 00:16 GMT
#834
I have no read scotts filter but he only had 3 posts at the start of the day so I doubt he clears anyone
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May 25 2015 00:19 GMT
#836
On May 22 2015 11:44 scott31337 wrote:
Dinner was good and now time to get to work...

I'm unsure what to think of BM's early vote, maybe just to get some discussion started?
He unvoted though.

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On May 22 2015 11:20 sicklucker wrote:
On May 22 2015 10:24 Sulfurus wrote:
@sicklucker is it not normal for the mafia QT to be open during pregame b/c if it is you shouldn't have made that dumbtell
also ##Vote: Breshke


actually I forgot their was coaches. It looks coached This was probably a pocket attempt. No one ever agrees with me unless they have a motive. Also I think breskes town because if his mafia game is to attack me of all people in a newbie game with really weak reasons I will berate him post game so hes probably town.

Sulfurus

Sulfurus I got a n0 red check no you what say you?


SL loves to fakeclaim as town. +1


if anything scott spewed me as town not you. Scott talked about me more then you. If im mafia with scott why does he talk about me?

Im willing to give you another day tho bill he did mention voting you. Good idea reminding me to read scotss filter. But im going to remind you to reread it because the way scott talks about me makes me town.
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May 25 2015 00:19 GMT
#838
##unvote
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May 25 2015 00:21 GMT
#841
like scotts filter means neither of us should be the vote today. the game just got hard
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May 25 2015 00:22 GMT
#844
like scott made 3 posts. half of it was pocketing me. the other half was soft pushing bm. Were both town most likely who else is currently voting me is there a recent votecount mods?
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May 25 2015 00:32 GMT
#847
1) scott31337 - I Hammered him he was mafia!

ticktock - annoying town dont think he would try to piss me off like this as mafia

5) boxerfred - no Idea I tend to ignore newer players

6) disformation- He was the counter wagon to a mafia so hes safe for today. I really dont read him well I would have to reread his last game. Not voting today

7) Barakos - green checked

8) Sulfurus - I had the same townread on him from his first post as 24/7 bunnies did . I know I was a little weird with that post timing but it was just me thinking out loud in thread. since i tr him i mostly ignored him which is probably not great but its what ive done

9) 27ninjabunnies - Was at first suspicious but leaned slightly town because I noticed we had same reads on people like sluf

10) Bill Murray - him getting soft pushed by a 3 post confirmed mafia is probably a great reason to keep him around

11) Breshke - been tring him but Think he has some mafia equity. Not gonna reread him now because I cant get him lynched anyway

13) batsnacks - Hes town when her pushes people. Here hes not pushing anyone he even backtracks on me Think hes scum
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May 25 2015 00:33 GMT
#848
plots - confirmed town obv for that work also the only one correctly reading me
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May 25 2015 00:34 GMT
#849
On May 25 2015 09:31 batsnacks wrote:
I'm going to play the asshole and point out that plots' spreadsheet is completely useless. Yes it looks like it took a lot of time and spending a lot of time on the game is townie but the spreadsheet itself is not useful for anything but activity wifom.

His reads are not as strong as I would expect for someone who believes they are working some amazing mafia finding tool. And if he didn't believe the spreadsheet were an amazing mafia finding tool why would he spend so much time on it?


i can confirm his tool has been a great town finding tool in me
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May 25 2015 00:36 GMT
#850
like someone told me how to read batsnacks once when I asked. I mislynched him a tune so I asked.

When hes scum he does not push people (like this game)

when hes town he does so far this read has held up
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May 25 2015 00:38 GMT
#852
yes and I have said his spreadsheet was going to be useless when I tred him when he first posted.

But out of everyone in this game hes the only one correctly reading me and has me as top town. SO i have to give him some credit here since my pm says im town and hes right and no one else is
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May 25 2015 00:40 GMT
#854
Bats your backtracking again. That was you who said only you would make a huge chart as mafia? You said no towns do that. Now your trying to put scum on him?

I think this was a slip ##vote batsnacks
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May 25 2015 00:42 GMT
#856
On May 23 2015 11:14 batsnacks wrote:
Also holy hell plots is town. I am the only person ever who has spreadsheet'ed that hard as mafia.


NICE BATTRACK

anyway if this was bats first time battracking this game I would probably let it slide. But this is his second or third hard battrack
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May 25 2015 00:42 GMT
#858
Thats fair I think. Bunnies more null
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May 25 2015 00:43 GMT
#860
Bill breske what do you think of the bat tracks?
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May 25 2015 00:44 GMT
#861
I said most slips. I said ive been right on 1/20 slips I saw before. Thats not a slip thats just you being scummy I didnt word it correctly
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May 25 2015 00:46 GMT
#863
breske can you talk about bats more? at this point when he flips scum im going to have no choice to lynch you next because of your made up town reads unless your.. you know
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May 25 2015 00:49 GMT
#868
On May 25 2015 09:47 batsnacks wrote:
Brother

The iching thing took me 5 minutes and it was in the first hour of the game. Your thing is completely different. I said what I said because I don't want to see you coast on some spreadsheet that isn't going to help town.


BUT YOU SAID HES 100% TOWN. If I were to rate how strong of a townread you gave plot for day1 it was a 10/10

who cares if he gives shit reads most towns do. We know hes town theres no reason to put shit on him. This is standard mad scum play and retracting on a townread because you need a lynch
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May 25 2015 00:51 GMT
#871
Like bats this is how 99% of people handle a 1st time player like plot.

They go ok he did that chart thing it took him 9 hours hes always town

They realize his reads are going to be shit because hes a new player

They dont get mad and ask him to have better reads because they dont care. They are just happy they have a cheap confirmed town thats basicly a cop check for free
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May 25 2015 00:53 GMT
#874
Breske I knew this was gonna be your angle I left a clue a few posts ago we should not talk about this lol
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May 25 2015 00:55 GMT
#875
Breske yes I would push someone I suspect of being a mason. Because im not 100% sure on that
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May 25 2015 01:23 GMT
#882
Like its a really shitty reason to tr someone. Im not saying it didnt happen but your clinging to it. as an early d1 read sure but welcome to day 2
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May 25 2015 01:40 GMT
#888
You could argue I was the one who put it over the top tho
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May 25 2015 05:31 GMT
#896
I could tell you why sulf.

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We both got spewed town by scott
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May 25 2015 05:42 GMT
#897
no veg came forward (theres not one) so of course im not gonna waste my time discussing who to kill.

No one would listen to me anyway so why would I ever suggest a shot? lol

I just said to come forward if your a newb and need help. Dont overthink it
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May 25 2015 06:09 GMT
#900
How anyone can think plots is scum here is beyond me. not even reading that post
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May 25 2015 06:12 GMT
#901
Tictick mafia siding and trying to lynch 2 towns as predicted.
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May 25 2015 06:19 GMT
#903
On May 25 2015 14:14 Sulfurus wrote:
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On May 24 2015 19:57 disformation wrote:
Sulfurus:

1)
On May 24 2015 06:04 Sulfurus wrote:
For me the the person with the most useful reads and my top town is Barakos; he was the one who helped me townread Breshke and scumread Disformation with this post, he has shown a healthy suspicion of NinjaBunnies, and he influenced me to un-vote BM, along with SL, with his coinflip argument (for the record I still think SL is town).]

In the bolded post Barakos talks about sicklucker not me.


Whoops I believe that should be a link to post 264

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2)
On May 24 2015 15:04 Sulfurus wrote:
@Breshke I'll reread one more time and then I'll answer.

I'd like him to follow up on this.

3)
He also totally ignored my case/push on him. Maybe because I was the only one seeing something in this?

Don't get me wrong, he has a bunch of stuff I like. But I'd def. like to see a more of this guy, before I can give him a solid town read.


IIRC your 'case' against me is that I called Bill Murray 'mislynch bait' which came off as TMI to you. TBH I don't actually know if Bill is town or not but I thought that term sounded better then 'lynch bait' since bait is usually a kind of trap you don't want to get caught in (think fishing) but we want to lynch mafia not avoid it (hopefully that makes sense).

As for Sicklucker I feel he has been so busy defending himself that he hasn't been able to give any useful reads and Rels gave a very good accusation of him here so I don't think I will bother defending and I may even vote on him if it comes down to it.

@Bill Murray I don't quite understand why you rescinded your vote off of SL. Can you please explain?


I would like to see this too I could use some defending . I know you have good reasons but unvoting me because I unvoted you can look bad to the dim witted.

Regardless bm is almost never mafia because scott pushed him hes pretty close to confirmed town
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May 25 2015 06:21 GMT
#904
Ok im just going to mute tictock I saw this coming some people cant handle my personality and get drunk hatred glasses on me.
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May 25 2015 06:22 GMT
#905
Like why are you listing my posts whats the point? I already have a filter your just spamming the thread and being anti town
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#908
On May 25 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
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On May 25 2015 09:46 sicklucker wrote:
breske can you talk about bats more? at this point when he flips scum im going to have no choice to lynch you next because of your made up town reads unless your.. you know


OHH lol. My read isn't made up on bats. We mindmelded on the thing about pushing you early. All the shit you found scummy about him is just you looking at stuff in a bad light like his first battrack on you. If you look at it with no bias it IS possible that the way he explained it was how it happened. I think it is far more likely than he forgot what he wrote in the thread 5 mins prior and decided to say something totally diffferent.

The problem is SL can play like this as town I know this. But this is also the reason I gave him a pass last time he was scum.


this is just an excuse. So i have a wide range of play? No shit look for small things that make me town. stop being salty about not reading me correctly in the past
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May 25 2015 06:26 GMT
#909
On May 25 2015 15:22 Tictock wrote:
SL you are either
A) Scum
B) Town that cares more about defending themselves at all costs (including lie and spread disinformation) than finding scum

B is not ideal, but I'd be ok with it. Thankfully that's not a worry since you are scum.


Well im getting lynched by donkeys. Ya I have to not get lynched thats my number one goal as town here. But I also dont want bm or plots and I would prefer a bats lynch but beggers cant be choosers.
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May 25 2015 06:32 GMT
#910
Tictock just go read scotts filter its not very long. HIs very first post and one of his only posts was directed and about me.
The chance of a mafia talking about a mafia in their first post is insanely small. He was also sucking up to me trying to get me on his side.
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May 25 2015 06:33 GMT
#911
lol scott spewed plots town too. This game is so easy
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May 25 2015 06:35 GMT
#912
On May 22 2015 12:00 scott31337 wrote:
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On May 22 2015 11:49 plotspot wrote:
oh lawl game has started, but I have to go to sleep now, see you tomorrow
*celebrate good times come on*


What kind of post is this? You weren't even able to post any original thoughts before you left?


that was an attack on plots he started when plots made that horrible opener
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May 25 2015 06:40 GMT
#913
Anyway im getting lynched and I cant bother to defend myself anymore then I have because the logic of why im town is there you will have to learn from experience. After you mislynch me just remember to never kill plots no matter what ever. Hes low hanging fruit that mafia will have to attack to reach their wincon. Thats like my entire legacy kill anyone over him Idc

Im vt so whatever its probably better I die today then tormorow no reason to put pressure on the power roles
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May 25 2015 07:17 GMT
#918
On May 25 2015 15:48 Breshke wrote:
Really SL? Your a big boy stop giving up since when do you even give up.

I kind of want to lynch bunnies more than you now anyway and wish she was posting.

I'm happy I've broken your spirit though.


since i got lynched t in a stupid cell game by your donkey ass and my streak got ruined
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May 25 2015 07:19 GMT
#919
On May 25 2015 15:54 Breshke wrote:
I agree that the way Scott treats plot is a big point in favour of him being town. It is one of the only things I've gotten from Scott's filter.

However tictok raises good points on him and if we dont keep lynching mafia there's only so far a town read based on spreadsheets and Scott being aggressive towards you will last.

SL I also have problems with the fact that I'm null to you yet you say I'm pushing you because I'm salty not because I'm scum. So you think I'm town?


I didnt say your salty at all. Like at all

Like im having a hard time finding scum so im a little suspect but I havent bothered looking into it because your unlyable today is what I said.
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 07:23 GMT
#921
oh
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 07:24 GMT
#923
Well i just feel your always so paranoid of me. I sapose me winning as mafia one time didnt help because even before that you were always super suspect of me in every game
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 07:33 GMT
#925
I have read every post in the thread except your post about plots because im that sure hes a villager
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 07:34 GMT
#926
she ninjaed that read on sulp is what got me. I mean I dont think my read on her matters im going to have to vote her for survival it looks like and i think shes a good vote and not in my poe list
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 07:37 GMT
#927
But if your just gonna lynch me after bunnies lynch me first. No reason to make her have to claim if shes a pr
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 25 2015 07:44 GMT
#931
On May 25 2015 16:41 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 16:34 sicklucker wrote:
she ninjaed that read on sulp is what got me. I mean I dont think my read on her matters im going to have to vote her for survival it looks like and i think shes a good vote and not in my poe list


Whats you PoE list SL? Last I saw you were scumming exactly 1.5 people.


ya well its hard to find scum when no one but the obv towns spam up the thread.

I probably have the biggest filter too
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 25 2015 08:04 GMT
#933
Me
You
plot
bm maybe?
town roles

Thats all i got need 1 more i think but roles have not claimed yet so making a poe list is meaningless unlike last game
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 25 2015 08:22 GMT
#936
bunnies pushing scott makes more sense if shes with both scott and disinfo
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 08:24 GMT
#937
wait bunnies was pushing scott but never voted him. strange? she voted disinfo but you quote where she calls disinfo town yet voted him over a confirmed mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 25 2015 08:26 GMT
#938
so bunnies afks her vote on the second wagon. While still saying scotts a great lynch. Sounds like a likely scott partner tbh
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 08:28 GMT
#939
On May 24 2015 06:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
We have 15 mins to EOD right? And scott still hasnt shown up. Can anyone give a a semi vote count?


shows up just at eod.
Thats more likely as mafia then town from my experience
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 08:34 GMT
#940
On May 23 2015 06:18 -Celestial- wrote:
Ask and ye shall receive:

~ Vote Count ~

plotspot (2) : Bill Murray, Tictock
disformation (2) : Barakos, Breshke
scott31337 (2) : Rels, batsnacks
Bill Murray (1) : Tictock (X), Sulfurus, Rels (X), boxerfred (X)
27ninjabunnies (0) : Bill Murray (X)
boxerfred (0) : Rels (X)
Breshke (0) : Sulfurus (X)
sicklucker (0) : Breshke (X), batsnacks (X), Bill Murray (X)

Not voting (6) : 27ninjabunnies, boxerfred, disformation, plotspot, scott31337, sicklucker

Currently, plotspot is set to be lynched!
The cycle will end at Saturday, May 23 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), about 24 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in this thread.

If you see any vote out of place, holler at us and we will look into it.


this is interesting. This is the vote count right before bunnies voted. at the time she voted it was very close so her being in a mafia team makes so much sense I think im voting her today and never changing.

On May 23 2015 08:25 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oh, and I think the above post is a great basis for

##Vote:Disformation



So we have bunnies being the third vote on disinfo to scotts two votes. At this point of the game it didnt look like scott was the lynch so if shes partners with him getting the vote on the other guy with votes is your only play.

##vote bunnies
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 08:37 GMT
#941
after bunnies makes it 3-2 I come in later and vote scott and I kind of convince batsnacks too (he votes right after me) these were the votes that eventually lynched the scum.

So like who would you rather lynch the person who tried to get the lynch off the confirmed scum or the person who was a hammer vote on a confirmed mafia.

This is such an easy decision guys...
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 25 2015 08:43 GMT
#945
Bunnies made it 3-2 disinfo scott. I made it 4-3 in favor of scott

Like you dont have to make 9 page charts to see who the scum would be of the two people.


If you guys vote me who hammered mafia then ya aint ready for non newbie games
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 25 2015 08:44 GMT
#946
You know what im done ive made my case . I acualy want to live over bunnies because shes a likely wolf. The logics there if you choose to not use it thats on you
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 08:46 GMT
#947
On May 25 2015 17:40 Tictock wrote:
Guys... this is such amazing play. I have to point it out.

+ Show Spoiler +
First the nonsense... (never happened)
On May 25 2015 17:22 sicklucker wrote:
bunnies pushing scott makes more sense if shes with both scott and disinfo


Followed by a dance of confusion
On May 25 2015 17:24 sicklucker wrote:
wait bunnies was pushing scott but never voted him. strange? she voted disinfo but you quote where she calls disinfo town yet voted him over a confirmed mafia


Next, the all so important dash of truth...
On May 25 2015 17:26 sicklucker wrote:
so bunnies afks her vote on the second wagon. While still saying scotts a great lynch. Sounds like a likely scott partner tbh

On May 25 2015 17:28 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 06:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
We have 15 mins to EOD right? And scott still hasnt shown up. Can anyone give a a semi vote count?


shows up just at eod.
Thats more likely as mafia then town from my experience


And... the Crescendo!
On May 25 2015 17:34 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 06:18 -Celestial- wrote:
Ask and ye shall receive:

~ Vote Count ~

plotspot (2) : Bill Murray, Tictock
disformation (2) : Barakos, Breshke
scott31337 (2) : Rels, batsnacks
Bill Murray (1) : Tictock (X), Sulfurus, Rels (X), boxerfred (X)
27ninjabunnies (0) : Bill Murray (X)
boxerfred (0) : Rels (X)
Breshke (0) : Sulfurus (X)
sicklucker (0) : Breshke (X), batsnacks (X), Bill Murray (X)

Not voting (6) : 27ninjabunnies, boxerfred, disformation, plotspot, scott31337, sicklucker

Currently, plotspot is set to be lynched!
The cycle will end at Saturday, May 23 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), about 24 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in this thread.

If you see any vote out of place, holler at us and we will look into it.


this is interesting. This is the vote count right before bunnies voted. at the time she voted it was very close so her being in a mafia team makes so much sense I think im voting her today and never changing.

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 08:25 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oh, and I think the above post is a great basis for

##Vote:Disformation



So we have bunnies being the third vote on disinfo to scotts two votes. At this point of the game it didnt look like scott was the lynch so if shes partners with him getting the vote on the other guy with votes is your only play.

##vote bunnies


That boys is how you make up a read in 5 minuets... SL you ARE sick



lol I cant wait till postgame. I would normally go easy on a new player but this is two games inarow Your a bad tunneler bro.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 25 2015 08:52 GMT
#949
tictock logic

game 1- THIS GUY IS SO OBV A MAFIA LOOK AT HIM YOU GUYS ARE SO STUPID - im right about everything game ends I flip village

game 2 THIS GUY IS SO OBV A MAFIA LOOK AT HIM YOU GUYS ARE SO STUPID

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sicklucker
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May 25 2015 08:57 GMT
#951
I gave up on convincing him along time ago
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 09:09 GMT
#955
because im bleeding town out of my anus
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 10:51 GMT
#961
Troll me you say... feel like its the other way around

Plots were voting 27ninjabunnies today if your not aware. Ill post it here rather then are mason qt
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 11:56 GMT
#969
On May 25 2015 19:55 batsnacks wrote:
SL what do you think of baraka? Maybe something other than that you green checked him.


idk why do you think I fake checked him of all people. SO I didnt have to read his filter untill the next day. Procrastination is my game
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 25 2015 11:57 GMT
#970
On May 25 2015 20:05 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 16:39 Tictock wrote:
BF is definitely town from his push EoN on Dis. I actually like the exchange between the two that happens.

On May 25 2015 04:39 boxerfred wrote:
You start tryharding on me. I couldn't say too much on your argumentation before (when Rels started to call out my "I'm a newb" posts) because I saw myself in a bad light and thus tried to do better, which worked - you started to warm up on me. If you still lean me towards scum, I have to assume that you're actively trying to get me lynched, making you SK or scum. So far, I've been really defending myself in a passive way but by now I feel like you're way too aggressive towards other persons, while you keep defending yourself with lots of smileys, trying to make people think positive about you. You accept arguments from others with smiley faces too, acting like you're a gentleman who, even in disagreement, acknowledges the effort/quality/whatever in his opponent's post. You're not a newbie and thus far, you managed to not get yourself into the line of fire very well.


@BF
I totally get where you are coming from on this, and it's not a bad read. However if this is still an important point to you I'd suggest you breifly skim Dis's filter in the last newbie game here.

He uses the simlies AND gets scum read for it in that game as well. However he was Town Doc that game. The smiles are simply a part of his writing style are are completely NAI (Not Alignment Indicative).

Okay I can see that. Also, his usage of smileys really seems to not be based on the intention of a post so I take that as granted. I moved away from the scum lean already anyways but I don't think I'll drop the SK lean. I have to reread the sicklucker things, it's really confusing (since I can only quickscan the thread today until like 7-8 hours from now on).

As I understood it, people want to start a train on either sicklucker or bunnies. Having such a clear train for two different persons, started by two different persons, I'd say that the cop actually hit a scum member this night and wants to get that guy lynched without indicating who he himself is. Is that a far fetched theory or could that be the truth?


no and thats kind of role hunting bro
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 12:00 GMT
#971
On May 25 2015 20:43 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 14:26 Tictock wrote:
Just in case that's STILL not enough for you. His posts so far D2 are just filled with lies and misinformation.
This post was directed at Dis (proof)
On May 25 2015 08:04 sicklucker wrote:
I said I was considering voting you did I ever tho? no because before I voted you I read your filter and decided you were not a great vote and then I lynched scum.

Oh really?
On May 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
one of bunnies or disinfo are scum

probably disinfo

This was back when SL thought bolding peoples names was voting for them. Bre had to remind him this is not 2+2.


This part is not entirely true. His read progression on me is:
1) cheap town read.
2) scum after he asks for my reads
3) does his fail vote on me you quoted
4) unvotes / unscums me after skimming my filter and votes scott

So that looks legit. The problem I have is:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 19:15 sicklucker wrote:
The standard play is not to lynch people who have not voted because their getting mod killed anyway. We got lucky I was bizzy at deadline and didnt get the lynch on disinfo because that would have been the smarter play not knowing scot was mafia

So he would have tried to lynch me (who he previously unscumed)? Though I could have still been null to him or something. Apparently he has some problems figuring me out, which might be the reason for that...

I am going to try and figure out all read progressions by sicklucker now... which might take a bit. His filter is really long.


ya if i was mafia... but im town thats my whole point. typcically people dont vote on people who didnt vote yet because they get mod killed. If I was with scott I would use this excuse to get you lynched. A 1for 1 trade since scott would get modkilled after.
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 20:32 GMT
#999
3 posts since i went to bed 8 hours ago wth?
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 20:32 GMT
#1000
I dont give a shit about barakos right now I want to not get lynched in 30 mins. whats the vote count
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 20:34 GMT
#1001
oh the vote is torm no wonder
sicklucker
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May 25 2015 20:36 GMT
#1002
I feel like if bunnies was town she would have more then 1 post but idk.

If any town jumped on scott for town cred it was bats like I have been saying. He was right after me when it looked like scott was doomed with no explanation.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 26 2015 00:22 GMT
#1014
there might just be 2 mafia in the new players. I have no idea where there at in the game and all they do is pop in once a day and put scum on me

(barakos sulp boxerfred)
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 26 2015 00:24 GMT
#1015
and thats the third person who used "their might be a sk excuse" to have a vote fall against me.

Theres no sk in this game because there was 1kp last night
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 26 2015 00:26 GMT
#1017
On May 26 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote:
I think I'll take breshke, batsnacks and tictocs as masons, at least two of them are. Their thoughts and votes seem to go down the same road most of the time. I read a lot of the sicklucker stuff by now but need to dive in deep into the last ~5 pages since I returned home not too long ago and am going to sleep after this post. I'm not too sure if I like the bunnies train since I'm still on the "dis is leaning towards sk" road. Also, I don't get too many of sicklucker's posts, they are kind of confusing and they imply that one needs to be more experienced to fully understand those short sentences in depth.

Skimming through disinfo's posts, I don't really see a point from which I would start a train on him. I might be wrong with my lean on him. However, I'd like to clearly know what he thinks about pretty much everyone - especially where he would locate scum members and SK. As I can see from celestial's post, he's currently all about jumping trains, matching the pattern of jumping the scott train before: first, he goes for sicklucker, being the 3rd vote at this point (I did not compare timestamps, so it might be the second vote, note that please!). Then, he changes his vote, being the 4th to jump bunnies.

That is not really matching his gameplay of putting pressure on people until a train is started on them.

For reference, final vote count of day 1:

Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 07:04 cakepie wrote:
~ Final Vote Count ~

scott31337 (6) : Rels, batsnacks (X), Tictock (X), Breshke, sicklucker, batsnacks, boxerfred, disformation
disformation (3) : Barakos, Breshke (X), 27ninjabunnies, plotspot
plotspot (1) : Bill Murray, Tictock (X)
27ninjabunnies (1) : Bill Murray (X), Tictock
batsnacks (1) : sicklucker (X), Sulfurus
Bill Murray (0) : Tictock (X), Sulfurus (X), Rels (X), boxerfred (X)
boxerfred (0) : Rels (X)
Breshke (0) : Sulfurus (X)
sicklucker (0) : Breshke (X), batsnacks (X), Bill Murray (X), batsnacks (X)
Sulfurus (0) : disformation (X)

Not voting (1) : scott31337

Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched!


+ Show Spoiler [Details] +
  • Bill Murray -> 27ninjabunnies
  • Breshke -> sicklucker
  • batsnacks -> sicklucker
  • Tictock -> Bill Murray
  • Bill Murray -> sicklucker
  • Sulfurus -> Breshke
  • Tictock -> --
  • Bill Murray -> plotspot
  • Tictock -> plotspot
  • Sulfurus -> Bill Murray
  • Barakos -> disformation
  • Breshke -> disformation
  • Rels -> boxerfred
  • Rels -> Bill Murray
  • boxerfred -> Bill Murray
  • boxerfred -> --
  • Rels -> scott31337
  • batsnacks -> scott31337
  • Sulfurus -> --
  • disformation -> Sulfurus
  • 27ninjabunnies -> disformation
  • plotspot -> disformation
  • Tictock -> --
  • batsnacks -> sicklucker
  • Tictock -> scott31337
  • Breshke -> --
  • Breshke -> scott31337
  • sicklucker -> batsnacks
  • sicklucker -> scott31337
  • batsnacks -> scott31337
  • boxerfred -> scott31337
  • disformation -> scott31337
  • Tictock -> 27ninjabunnies
  • Sulfurus -> batsnacks


Going for Sulfuros first, then jumping a train that will most likely kill the guy, thus saving his vote.

I'd like to point out that initially, batsnacks and tictoc voted the same on scott rather early, which strengthens my mason theory, putting Breshke on a neutral lean for me. However, both batsnacks and Breshke have a town read for me if I'm right. Coming to a conclusion of my theories, I'd say we have to search for scum members among sulfurus, bill murray and maybe sicklucker (mentioning him since I can see why he's being blamed but I think his posts make sense (if I understand them correctly) and bunnies (for named reasons). I'd locate the SK at disinfo and maybe SL.

It's all too wonky at this point. I delayed my vote for a long time last day already, but this time, I'm putting my vote on sicklucker rather early. He's jumping people rather often, voting batsnacks, BM and then bunnies, following batsnacks who he voted upon before. That's three guys, with him, four. Four in a span of a few hours? I take that as a vote that is cast knowing the alignment of at least one of the three guys he voted upon. Given that he unvoted two times, it might very well be that he's a scum member knowing about the identity of a fellow scum member. Which would, following my mason theory, point to bill murray being scum.

Not sure how bullet proof that theory is, please fire at it to see how long it holds.

##vote sicklucker



it sounds like im your third strongest scum read why do you vote me? its still 24 hours away its not like its only me or bunnies that can get lynched currently
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 26 2015 00:28 GMT
#1018
On May 26 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote:
I think I'll take breshke, batsnacks and tictocs as masons, at least two of them are. Their thoughts and votes seem to go down the same road most of the time. I read a lot of the sicklucker stuff by now but need to dive in deep into the last ~5 pages since I returned home not too long ago and am going to sleep after this post. I'm not too sure if I like the bunnies train since I'm still on the "dis is leaning towards sk" road. Also, I don't get too many of sicklucker's posts, they are kind of confusing and they imply that one needs to be more experienced to fully understand those short sentences in depth.

Skimming through disinfo's posts, I don't really see a point from which I would start a train on him. I might be wrong with my lean on him. However, I'd like to clearly know what he thinks about pretty much everyone - especially where he would locate scum members and SK. As I can see from celestial's post, he's currently all about jumping trains, matching the pattern of jumping the scott train before: first, he goes for sicklucker, being the 3rd vote at this point (I did not compare timestamps, so it might be the second vote, note that please!). Then, he changes his vote, being the 4th to jump bunnies.

That is not really matching his gameplay of putting pressure on people until a train is started on them.

For reference, final vote count of day 1:

Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 07:04 cakepie wrote:
~ Final Vote Count ~

scott31337 (6) : Rels, batsnacks (X), Tictock (X), Breshke, sicklucker, batsnacks, boxerfred, disformation
disformation (3) : Barakos, Breshke (X), 27ninjabunnies, plotspot
plotspot (1) : Bill Murray, Tictock (X)
27ninjabunnies (1) : Bill Murray (X), Tictock
batsnacks (1) : sicklucker (X), Sulfurus
Bill Murray (0) : Tictock (X), Sulfurus (X), Rels (X), boxerfred (X)
boxerfred (0) : Rels (X)
Breshke (0) : Sulfurus (X)
sicklucker (0) : Breshke (X), batsnacks (X), Bill Murray (X), batsnacks (X)
Sulfurus (0) : disformation (X)

Not voting (1) : scott31337

Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched!


+ Show Spoiler [Details] +
  • Bill Murray -> 27ninjabunnies
  • Breshke -> sicklucker
  • batsnacks -> sicklucker
  • Tictock -> Bill Murray
  • Bill Murray -> sicklucker
  • Sulfurus -> Breshke
  • Tictock -> --
  • Bill Murray -> plotspot
  • Tictock -> plotspot
  • Sulfurus -> Bill Murray
  • Barakos -> disformation
  • Breshke -> disformation
  • Rels -> boxerfred
  • Rels -> Bill Murray
  • boxerfred -> Bill Murray
  • boxerfred -> --
  • Rels -> scott31337
  • batsnacks -> scott31337
  • Sulfurus -> --
  • disformation -> Sulfurus
  • 27ninjabunnies -> disformation
  • plotspot -> disformation
  • Tictock -> --
  • batsnacks -> sicklucker
  • Tictock -> scott31337
  • Breshke -> --
  • Breshke -> scott31337
  • sicklucker -> batsnacks
  • sicklucker -> scott31337
  • batsnacks -> scott31337
  • boxerfred -> scott31337
  • disformation -> scott31337
  • Tictock -> 27ninjabunnies
  • Sulfurus -> batsnacks


Going for Sulfuros first, then jumping a train that will most likely kill the guy, thus saving his vote.

I'd like to point out that initially, batsnacks and tictoc voted the same on scott rather early, which strengthens my mason theory, putting Breshke on a neutral lean for me. However, both batsnacks and Breshke have a town read for me if I'm right. Coming to a conclusion of my theories, I'd say we have to search for scum members among sulfurus, bill murray and maybe sicklucker (mentioning him since I can see why he's being blamed but I think his posts make sense (if I understand them correctly) and bunnies (for named reasons). I'd locate the SK at disinfo and maybe SL.

It's all too wonky at this point. I delayed my vote for a long time last day already, but this time, I'm putting my vote on sicklucker rather early. He's jumping people rather often, voting batsnacks, BM and then bunnies, following batsnacks who he voted upon before. That's three guys, with him, four. Four in a span of a few hours? I take that as a vote that is cast knowing the alignment of at least one of the three guys he voted upon. Given that he unvoted two times, it might very well be that he's a scum member knowing about the identity of a fellow scum member. Which would, following my mason theory, point to bill murray being scum.

Not sure how bullet proof that theory is, please fire at it to see how long it holds.

##vote sicklucker


thats like a huge town tell and a pretty shitty reason to vote someone. Mafia and especially me as mafia are more precise with their votes and dont flop around that much changing their mind.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 26 2015 00:37 GMT
#1021
This is interesting. Barakos does not mention scott once day 1. Pretty strange for the lading mafia wagon. Then when day 2 starts he makes this post trying to discredit people who voted scott (classic mafia tactic)

On May 24 2015 18:41 Barakos wrote:
The votes on scott mean just about nothing.

27nb asked if people thought there was mafia voting for scott shortly before eod... there sure was.

People said scott rolled mafia in several of his newbie-games and wasn't very happy about this, so I am pretty sure his scum-partners in the qt knew this, too.
So there might very well have been plans about voting him, if it becomes apparent, he will not return to the thread. Him not returning and posting as less as possible might even have been the plan right from the start.

Which is also why what bm said about scotts post making him look good is complete bs since this might as well have been a planned breadcrumbing, which a scum-bm could later on use by saying "look, he tried to make me look bad and he was mafia, so i must be town". Just look at the scum-qt of assassination-mafia. bm is perfectly capable of hatching such a plan and scott - already not excited about having rolled scum - would have happily followed, since he wouldn't let his team completely hanging.

I guess all i am saying is, that we can't really interpret anything into scotts posts, because him leaving the thread and giving up is most likely a thing, he discussed with his teammates, so there surely was a plan about how he should behave in the few posts he made, which is why everything he said could be interpreted one way or the other.



you dont say? ty for that qt info
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 00:40 GMT
#1022
On May 26 2015 09:31 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 09:24 sicklucker wrote:
and thats the third person who used "their might be a sk excuse" to have a vote fall against me.

Theres no sk in this game because there was 1kp last night


Can you pls read stuff. It says SK can hold their shot if they want to. You cant 100% rule it out


I read that but its not a very smart thing to do because it can make the game last 1 day longer. Watching 3 newbies call me the sk when theres like a 5% chance theres one in the game is pretty annoying.
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 00:42 GMT
#1023
##vote barakos

time to play the game G
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 00:47 GMT
#1024
anyway were not voting between me (11 page filter lol) and bunnies.Presurin bunnies is fine she will get out of it if shes town. The main scum against her is her vote which barakos apparently tell us ment nothing! he seems to know alot about whats going on in the mafia qt

but we have to presure these 2 1 page filter new players too or this game will never go anywhere.

Were not voting me today you baddies
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 01:04 GMT
#1027
I see multiple scummy people now its great. Sorry for wanting a vote to be between them and not between a confirmed town with 12 pages of filter
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 02:17 GMT
#1030
I have stated many times in games that I like to look scummy to get reads
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 05:41 GMT
#1043
barakos bunnies sulf. Two scum in there probably
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 05:42 GMT
#1044
Like people are acualy voting the person who hammer voted the mafia role blocker over 1 page filter guys with nothing to add to the game this is fun
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 05:44 GMT
#1045
Maybe I was right about barokos and sulp pre planning their entrances how awesome would that be. Like there giving 0 critical thinking here we probably wont here from them for another 48 hours
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 05:50 GMT
#1047
On May 23 2015 20:09 sicklucker wrote:
God scott has 3 posts. why do you do this scott? we pretty much just have to vote you


On May 23 2015 20:16 sicklucker wrote:
##unvote ##vote scott

Ya whatever. On a quick reread disinfo filter is not really bad. No way we cant kill scott here. I think a policy lynch is fine I have no high percentage flips in my mind


Hi guys this means im town. I had every incentive in the world to ignore scott who had 2 votes. My vote was already on the counterwagon. Im literally the reason we lynched mafia yesterday...

Lets vote the guy who has the biggest filter and killed mafia. I know this is a newbie game but how am I the only one frusterated with this? I cant even get one defender ?
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 05:54 GMT
#1048
Lets see here tictok lets play a little game.

Sicklucker 13 pages of filter was the most important vote on mafia

sulp 1 page filter wasted his vote

Bunnies 2 page filter her vote put disinfo in the lead to get lynched

barakos 2 page filter started the disinfo wagon


Who is the most likely to be town in this group of players? Notice all 3 are voting me or probably going to vote me as well
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 05:58 GMT
#1051
Im so town it hurts. I know im repeating the same things but these need to be drilled into your brain. Level one logic is a thing
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 05:58 GMT
#1052
Breske vote me bitch Idk. These posts are not directed at you. I would love to be out of this game
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 06:00 GMT
#1054
On May 26 2015 14:57 Tictock wrote:
SL I just want you to stop making shit up.

I've proven your doing it time and again. It's terrible for town.

If lynching you is the only way to get you to do this, then so be it.

I honestly don't even care if you flip green, it will just mean town can finally focus on scum


I didnt make anything up...

You see me changing my mind as making shit up but thats called changing your fucking mind
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 06:00 GMT
#1055
##vote sicklucker
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 06:02 GMT
#1056
Like im legit pissed off at you breske. Do you not play to win?
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 06:05 GMT
#1058
So what if im not getting lynched today ( i might be) I would just get lynched the day after with peoples terrible mindsets
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 06:06 GMT
#1060
On May 26 2015 14:59 Breshke wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Sicklucker


K beb

This game isn't even toxic i don't know what your problem is


like this is not playing to win.
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 06:06 GMT
#1061
There u go
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 06:07 GMT
#1065
You got baited
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 06:08 GMT
#1066
Obv you cant vote for yourself in this game. I was trying to get a read on you and see if you would acualy vote me
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May 26 2015 06:10 GMT
#1068
But you did get like a 75% on the test tho because you didnt keep your vote on me ;p
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May 26 2015 07:22 GMT
#1073
On May 26 2015 15:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So is anyone actually trying to figure this game out, or nah?


not you thats for sure got anything else?
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 08:16 GMT
#1075
I have a hard time believing a mafia with most of the votes drops that 1 liner then leaves but who knows
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 12:29 GMT
#1108
Im here but there is no sk... If the sk held his shot last night hes dumb as hell and its certainly not me
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May 26 2015 12:37 GMT
#1110
Well im pretty convinced. One scum is definitely [b##unvote ]##vote 21ninjabunnies[/b]

When she flips ill figure out which one of sulp/barak/boxerfred made up fake reasons to scum read. Could also be bm
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 12:38 GMT
#1111
##unvote ##vote 21ninjabunnies
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May 26 2015 12:41 GMT
#1114
On May 26 2015 21:34 Tictock wrote:
Ok last post about SK kus yes we are getting distracted. So let me just make sure everyone remembers how SK works this game.

This is from the SK role PM.
Show nested quote +
You can kill one person every night, but you don't have to.
You win when you are the last player alive or nothing can prevent this from occurring.


let me explain how to play sk.

If towns already killed 1 mafia you dont fucking hold your shot. Mafias losing so you help them out by killing a obv town.

As a sk your goal is to kill everyone so holding your shot is always bad. This acualy eliminates experienced players from being the sk if there is one.

If there is an sk its going to be one of the new players. Those are also the people spamming that theirs an sk that could be tmi.

sicklucker
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May 26 2015 12:42 GMT
#1115
On May 26 2015 21:39 Barakos wrote:
So sl... any reaction to my case on you?


not rly its garbage. Ill figure out if your bad or scum after bunnie flips
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 12:44 GMT
#1116
"Other things I don't like about his spammy, mostly oneliner-filter:
He trys to paint himself in a towny light with the most absurd reasons, like the votecount for example.
He puts himself in the spot of a town hero by saying it was his vote and him persuading batsnacks to vote scott that finally swung the vote to lynch scott and not disformation, and when he is confronted with a reasonable arguement, that invalidates this arguement (my post that those votes may very well have been preplanned), his reaction is "lol you know, what mafia says in their qt? you are mafia!"


Why are you putting scum on me for that its true? Like you cant even this fact wtf
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May 26 2015 12:46 GMT
#1117
Bats did are interaction not make you go screw it and vote scott right after me? Because thats how I saw it
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May 26 2015 12:48 GMT
#1118
On May 26 2015 20:54 boxerfred wrote:
Well reading tics and bats last posts I come to the conclusion that we simply hang bunnies, vig kill SL and if no vig kill happens, SL is the SK? I feel like I'm missing something.


No im just town. Like very obvious town. Feel free to reread any of my past town games
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May 26 2015 12:49 GMT
#1119
I dont claim vt as sk this early either. Thats like suicidely bad play.

sicklucker
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May 26 2015 12:52 GMT
#1123
sometimes I make alot of sense. It depends on my mood really
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May 26 2015 12:53 GMT
#1124
On May 26 2015 21:51 Barakos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 21:44 sicklucker wrote:
"Other things I don't like about his spammy, mostly oneliner-filter:
He trys to paint himself in a towny light with the most absurd reasons, like the votecount for example.
He puts himself in the spot of a town hero by saying it was his vote and him persuading batsnacks to vote scott that finally swung the vote to lynch scott and not disformation, and when he is confronted with a reasonable arguement, that invalidates this arguement (my post that those votes may very well have been preplanned), his reaction is "lol you know, what mafia says in their qt? you are mafia!"


Why are you putting scum on me for that its true? Like you cant even this fact wtf


It's literally in the next paragraph...
You either suck at reading and miss, that i am not suspecting you, because you are tryharding to paint yourself green but because of the way you argue about it, or you just want to missunderstand and not answer to the intended point of this paragraph, saying you look shit for having double-standarts and only are paranoid / think critical, when it fits your agenda.


Your specifically arguing that being the 4th vote on a mafia does not suggest im town in the slightest.
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May 26 2015 12:56 GMT
#1125
Fun fact. 1/4th of this game is me talking and probably most of that is defending myself.

Also funfact I have never been mislynched in a regular lynch since my first game. I wonder why?
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May 26 2015 15:04 GMT
#1151
We have talked about you plenty. If your not a lynch today I dont really care about you
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May 26 2015 15:09 GMT
#1153
Ya i cant remember either lol
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May 26 2015 15:18 GMT
#1157
Oh ya barakos your scum. I remember now
sicklucker
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May 26 2015 15:32 GMT
#1162
Hum I hope they do things too but dont get your hopes up
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May 26 2015 15:51 GMT
#1165
i think thats talking about me and plots being partners? thats terrible from my pov
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May 26 2015 18:11 GMT
#1173
i might go sleep for 20 hours
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May 26 2015 18:22 GMT
#1175
Na
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May 27 2015 06:50 GMT
#1270
why did we kill the lynch bait that was spewed town by scott. I was way too tired to defend him when that wagon started after defending myself
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May 27 2015 06:54 GMT
#1272
Looks like plots outed the town roleblocker. Im not sure who it is but if I were mafia I would figure it out in 2 minutes because theres not alot of peopel who think plots i smafia. SO rip town roleblocker.

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May 27 2015 06:56 GMT
#1273
Who cares right now breske I need a break and just woke up.

Were still killing bunnies next. She should already be dead its not like her defense was very good she just got a free life out of bm. Like if I were mafia I would have got the lynch on bill murray too. Its not very hard to do but instead I tried for bunnies and barakos
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May 27 2015 07:02 GMT
#1275
Barakos why didnt you vote bill murray? You said in thread you didnt want bunnies lynched. SO why didnt you vote bill murray? Bunnies was one vote away from dying? Why waste your vote on me?
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May 27 2015 07:05 GMT
#1276
Idk I kind of want to see who dies in the night before I spend alot of time reading filters. Ill do it after night ok? that seems fair
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May 27 2015 07:06 GMT
#1278
Some townie things in his filter from a quick skim through. Would have to reread his last newbie game we played where he was town so I could get a good read
sicklucker
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May 27 2015 07:09 GMT
#1279
disinfo acualy pushed bunnies unlike the other scrubs altho he got swayed at the end
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May 27 2015 07:12 GMT
#1280
Who would disinofs partner be?

On May 23 2015 06:13 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 06:01 sicklucker wrote:
vote count? anyone voting disinfo? I might

disinfo can you list your read. I have no idea what your reads are and you posted alot not a good sign


I think there are two votes on me. Barakos and Breshkia. Okay... list post time. *ugh*
I will keep this short, if you want to know more details and why, please ask.

top town: rels, ticktock
town lean: breshkia, batsnacks
please start doing stuff soon: plotspot, scott
scum lean: sulfurus (until he answers my question at least), BM (super defensive and aggressive when Sulfurus voted on him)

rethinking:
bunnies: scum lean (hence the case) -> slight town lean of the answers -> rethinking right now (was probably to easily swayed)
barakos: he is a bit tunnely towards me, but that is okay, need to look at his other reads/interactions
sicklucker: you are trying a lot harder than last game, not sure if that is a good or bad sign for you, so I have you kinda nullish. Your current interactions with me make me lean town towards you.
boxerfred: not sure if new scum or new town


one of the rethinkers right? boxer and me are less likely mafia for not voting bm.That leaves just barakos maybe bats as his partners. Not sure if he pushes his partner bunnies but its possible
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May 27 2015 07:21 GMT
#1282
Im leaning that way for sure. Theres only 2 scum left and I think it is bunnies and one of sulf/barakos
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May 27 2015 07:22 GMT
#1283
interestingly enough they both wanted to save bunnies but had no motivation to make it 7-5 for bunnies. Maybe in fear for bunnies eventual flip
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May 27 2015 07:25 GMT
#1284
and even if bunnies town its scummy because they know bm is about ot flip town. There might be some equity in my crazy thoery from the start of day 1 after all (barkos+sulp)
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May 27 2015 07:27 GMT
#1287
breske you probably will die tonight if they dont find the roleblocker because im pretty sure your one of the few people town siding by not voting me or bm. So leave a legacy plz
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May 27 2015 07:28 GMT
#1288
On May 27 2015 16:02 sicklucker wrote:
Barakos why didnt you vote bill murray? You said in thread you didnt want bunnies lynched. SO why didnt you vote bill murray? Bunnies was one vote away from dying? Why waste your vote on me?


barakos a qeustion for you
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May 27 2015 07:31 GMT
#1289
im a little surpised plot didnt update his chart after putting so much effort into it. but like he was found out as mafia in the last newbie game on like day 1? I would be a little surprised.
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May 27 2015 07:56 GMT
#1297
On May 27 2015 16:39 Barakos wrote:
Same reason I didn't vote for scott D1

Explained it in the same post i said i didn't like lynching bunnies.
In my first (and up till now only) game here, i won as mafia because town lynched all the inactives first while I was one of the three most active players and got a pass till lylo, where all I had to do was chose the right one to hammer the last vote and win...
I basically had a free pass till end of game, because every lynch was on the inactives. So I think - and my experience backs me up on this - that lynching inactives is just an easy way for mafia to gett further into the game and towards mylo/lylo.
Ask breshke, he was in that game as well.


Thats a pretty wissshy washy answer. For one bm was more inactive then bunnies. And realistcly if you dont lynched inactives that is pro mafia because it leaves inactives around for end of game lynches.

Now that bm flipped town do you not see the logic I was providing that explained why he was town?
Can you link us to your scum game
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May 27 2015 08:00 GMT
#1299
On May 27 2015 16:53 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 07:34 plotspot wrote:
Okay, maybe it’s time we talk about this now. I have received a visit from the RB on N1.
I have no idea who did this but, it must be someone who thought I might be scum and checked on it with his night action on N1. Who the hell might do that?

That would explain the no vigi/no sk kill in night 1, wouldn't it?


only if theres 2kp tonight. And even then theres other possiblitys. (held shot)

Thinking about a sk is pointless because its so unlikely
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May 27 2015 08:01 GMT
#1301
On May 27 2015 16:51 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 16:12 sicklucker wrote:
Who would disinofs partner be?

On May 23 2015 06:13 disformation wrote:
On May 23 2015 06:01 sicklucker wrote:
vote count? anyone voting disinfo? I might

disinfo can you list your read. I have no idea what your reads are and you posted alot not a good sign


I think there are two votes on me. Barakos and Breshkia. Okay... list post time. *ugh*
I will keep this short, if you want to know more details and why, please ask.

top town: rels, ticktock
town lean: breshkia, batsnacks
please start doing stuff soon: plotspot, scott
scum lean: sulfurus (until he answers my question at least), BM (super defensive and aggressive when Sulfurus voted on him)

rethinking:
bunnies: scum lean (hence the case) -> slight town lean of the answers -> rethinking right now (was probably to easily swayed)
barakos: he is a bit tunnely towards me, but that is okay, need to look at his other reads/interactions
sicklucker: you are trying a lot harder than last game, not sure if that is a good or bad sign for you, so I have you kinda nullish. Your current interactions with me make me lean town towards you.
boxerfred: not sure if new scum or new town


one of the rethinkers right? boxer and me are less likely mafia for not voting bm.That leaves just barakos maybe bats as his partners. Not sure if he pushes his partner bunnies but its possible

Your logic is flawed: if 27nb and BM are both town, the vote on bunnies is not containing any proof for the voters being townies. I hate to potentially put a bad light on myself but that's how it is.


not at all townies shouldnt care. They should want there vote to matter the most and influence the game the most in who they think is mafia.

Not hide behind wasted votes
sicklucker
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May 27 2015 08:06 GMT
#1302
Heres barakos filter from his only other game where he was mafia and won.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/464494-newbie-lviii-disney-princess-mafia?user=Barakos

Havent read it yet but lots of big posts so its in his range ;p
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May 27 2015 08:07 GMT
#1303
Breske you were also in that game do you remember much?
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May 27 2015 09:02 GMT
#1318
On May 27 2015 17:25 Barakos wrote:
Of course you wouldn't want to go into lylo with someone, who has almost no filter, so at some point, you would have to start lynching into them, sure... but as long as there are valid other suspects and there is enough time, I don't see the point in lynching into them.
Especially if you already caught one. (Not thanks to me, but our first lynch was scum, so how high are the odds of 2 out of 3 scum being this inactive?)


pretty high... when one of your mafia team mates gives up day 1 for no reason your gonna not try very hard as mafia..
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May 27 2015 12:04 GMT
#1339
bats probably didnt call me out for it because im right
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May 27 2015 12:06 GMT
#1341
Being a role is still in my range here plz I know i wont get nked so ima brag about it
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May 27 2015 13:18 GMT
#1347
breskes eyes only

+ Show Spoiler +
im acualy the town doctor its all been a ploy
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May 27 2015 22:33 GMT
#1405
hehe I was right.

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May 27 2015 22:34 GMT
#1406
I would have killed breske n1. Confirmed town again!
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May 27 2015 22:35 GMT
#1408
bats this is a newbie game your not gonna get cced here. May as well just claim
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May 27 2015 22:39 GMT
#1410
oh i missed that cop claim oO
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May 27 2015 22:40 GMT
#1411
Does bats ever fake claim here with 7-2 ? I doubt it
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May 27 2015 22:43 GMT
#1415
mafia needs 3 lynches to win. Seems like an unwinnable fake claim so easy to believe it. If there was two I would be super paranoid
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May 27 2015 22:45 GMT
#1416
im pretty sure one of your checks are the godfather tho. like pretty sure. Super down to lynch sulf first tho

##vote sulfurus
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May 27 2015 22:48 GMT
#1419
On May 28 2015 07:46 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2015 07:43 sicklucker wrote:
mafia needs 3 lynches to win. Seems like an unwinnable fake claim so easy to believe it. If there was two I would be super paranoid


cop is also the best role to claim for mafia in this situation, imo.


if they needed two lynches its a great fakecalim, You kill sulf today then kill me the next day and you win if its like bats/bunnies or bats/barkos

But they need 3
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May 27 2015 23:02 GMT
#1427
On May 25 2015 08:37 sicklucker wrote:
also I think its fairly obv theres masons in the game and i know who you are. If i was mafia id kill you


also tictoc is probably mason. Breskes sheer overconfidence made me think he was a role and something else that was probably bad logic made me think he was a mason,

I posted that after the n1 kill. After that breske stoped trying to kill me so much and basically claimed in thread im sure mafia noticed it rip
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May 27 2015 23:14 GMT
#1429
what if theirs two mafia roleblockers
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May 27 2015 23:20 GMT
#1432
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May 27 2015 23:25 GMT
#1435
Na definately claim. Makes it more believable now and its not like its a useful role. Were ahead we dont have to risk being behind.

The longer you dont claim the easier it is for mafia to cc you.
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May 28 2015 00:09 GMT
#1438
well this is not rly a newbie aproved setup. Cakepie kind of just yolloed this 1
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May 28 2015 11:46 GMT
#1509
On May 28 2015 13:43 Tictock wrote:
Ok I skimmed from EoN till now, there's a lot to think about and some stuff I want to look into.

First things first, farewell to Breshke one of our town masons.

2nd off, I really don't think town RB should claim, maybe I'm wrong here but wouldn't Town RB be the strongest role in a cop, mason, RB town setup? Town RB claiming will make them a sure fire target tonight, seems to me town RB will want to hold off claiming as long as possible to avoid being NK'd and allowing potential blocks of NKs.

Masons seem like a weakish role. I don't see much reason why the remaining mason shouldn't claim as it will help confirm one more town.

I notice SL and Dis are expecting me to claim mason. Honestly though, I feel like if I were a role wouldn't I be in the best position to not claim? Like most people are reading me as town anyway, if I were to claim a role it wouldn't really narrow things down at the moment.

Also, why the hell is plots trying to No Lynch?


yes you claim. esp as a town rber because it makes bats claim look like dog shit and probably mafia. Like bats can do this as mafia and a 2 mason + town rb + cop setup is 1 too many power role so ones lying
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May 28 2015 11:59 GMT
#1520
On May 28 2015 20:54 batsnacks wrote:
SL plot thinks you're the town rb. Please tell him you're not he won't listen to me.


im not splots it was jokes
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May 28 2015 12:00 GMT
#1522
its probably sulf bunnies them as a team makes so much sense. My planis to lynch sulf. If he flips mafia im lynching bunnies next. If he does not flip mafia im not sure what to do. Flame bats post game?
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May 28 2015 12:01 GMT
#1523
The roleswap dream oO
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May 28 2015 12:04 GMT
#1526
If bats fake claimed his only possible partner is bunnies. Which makes his fake claim even less likely because when he doesint die we just kill those 2.

WHY IS THERE 3/4 TOWN POWEROLES WTF MAKES NO SENSE
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May 28 2015 12:04 GMT
#1529
like maybe theres no second mason? I have seen that happen before. Mason needs to 1000% just claim already
sicklucker
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May 28 2015 12:05 GMT
#1530
Yes plots explain every thought process bats could be fake claiming here like theres only saposed to be 2 town roles in a 13 player game not 3 or 4
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May 28 2015 12:07 GMT
#1532
like i thought bats was fake claiming cop as mason for reads but im not sure anymore he did track his shit back. But he can do that as mafia too
sicklucker
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May 28 2015 12:13 GMT
#1537
Real claims from everyone now. 100% hardclaim everyone im not even sure if your trolling here plots ill start.

Im vt duh
sicklucker
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May 28 2015 12:14 GMT
#1538
like holding your role back just hurts town here. We gotta figure out the setup to see if we have too many roles. And if we have too many roles it lets people with experience figure the game out
sicklucker
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May 28 2015 12:20 GMT
#1547
So your hard claiming town roleblocker? and that you got roleblocked n1? wut?

Tictock im taking that as a masonclaim
sicklucker
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May 28 2015 12:21 GMT
#1548
On May 28 2015 21:19 Tictock wrote:
Plots confirmed Crazy Cat Lady role?

You really need to get a handle on yourself man.


I think its called lolcatting.

+ Show Spoiler +
joking around when you have given up trolling town as mafia
sicklucker
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May 28 2015 12:25 GMT
#1552
Well im pretty good at finding roles (which is why I wouldnt kill rels n1) You and breske were so overconfident that you were town. like you had a way of proving it later when you pushed me. Also you scum read me then switched to town reading me at about the same time
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May 28 2015 12:26 GMT
#1553
Plots like im kind of reading this as a "oh crap my mafia partners getting lynched i need to discredit bats claim here"

I doubt thats true can you stop?
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May 28 2015 12:35 GMT
#1556
im not totally convinced hes scum but I do think he has to be the lynch today. Plots is confusing the hell out of me.
Like theres too many roles but we cant really start suspecting bats untill he dies in the night. And iif mafia chooses not to kill him to push that story we at least get his checks.

Even tho bunnies is green checked I also see here as mafia in both worlds. If bats is fakeclaiming its to protect bunnies most likely.
Bunnies and sulf makes alot of sense.
sicklucker
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May 28 2015 12:37 GMT
#1558
Plots you got roleblocked n1 correct?. How can you be the roleblocker?
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May 28 2015 12:37 GMT
#1559
oh
sicklucker
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May 28 2015 12:42 GMT
#1562
ok well i think ill do this.

##unvote ##vote bunnies

so my logic here is im a little suspect of bats claim now. But if bats is real theres certainly a god father in the game to help balance this absurd number of roles. I think that makes bunnie the god father.

I think bunnies is the safe lynch in both worlds.

Random thought. If barkos really was rbed that makes him close to confirmed town because he might have delivered the kp
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May 28 2015 12:46 GMT
#1565
I havenrt reread bats filter yet but its not out of the realm of possibility for him to soft cop and leave traces of his checks behind as mafia. I think thats something bats would get off on.

And that barkos is town thing at the end of the night means nothing because his plan to fakeclaim would have already been in motion.
sicklucker
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May 28 2015 12:47 GMT
#1566
On May 28 2015 21:43 plotspot wrote:
And I already explained why an RB, Mason and Cop is fair to Mafia RB, Mafia Godfather and Mafia Goon. Scumteam Tictock Sulfurus just had bad luck that we just hit Barakos (both me and Bats), Rels (me) and 27ninja. Or is there any doubt to whether 27ninja might be Godfather? Her cluelessness simply makes it extremely unlikely.
You even see now that Tictock tries hard to deflect from voting for Sulfurus for whatever reason you want. And I posted a post about Sulfurus just somewhere above that gives her away as Mafia, especially if you know the setup now.


because your so experienced with mafia setups right?
sicklucker
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May 28 2015 12:47 GMT
#1568
plots ticktock cant be mafia he was breskes mason partner.
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May 28 2015 13:00 GMT
#1575
On May 28 2015 21:37 plotspot wrote:
Bats is cop, why should he ninja-hint Barakos at the last minute of N2. It's not plausible or do you think Bats is capaple of doing that?


easily if bats is mafia he had already decided to claim. His first post after the nk was his claim
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May 28 2015 13:13 GMT
#1582
On May 28 2015 22:10 plotspot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2015 22:02 Tictock wrote:
Humm, what was your thinking blocking Bara?

You've been clearly scumming me since much earlier than N2, why didn't you block me?


No I didn't, you remember the post where I ask bunny to go out and give her gut read and said I thought you were town? It was just when batsnacks claimed cop along with all his checks that I slowly crept on the thought that you are scum. And the town elimination thing just supports this:
Bats = cops
Bunny = town
Barakos = town
plotspot = RB
Breshke = Mason
disformation = town
boxerfred = Mason
---
there are two people left = you and Sulfurus. I rechecked the filters and you it would fit that you and Sulfu and scott are scum trio.



wronggg
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May 28 2015 18:00 GMT
#1659
that was hard to read
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May 28 2015 18:02 GMT
#1660
On May 29 2015 02:03 batsnacks wrote:
I think I'm just going to assume all the claims are legit. I'm the cop, Tiktok is the mason, plot is the rb. All town.

I think it's too dangerous for mafia to claim mason and risk getting cced if there is another mason in the game. Tiktok is probably the mason.

I think the way plot claimed is too insane to be mafia. I don't think mafia completely loses their shit and makes a huge scene like that.

So there must be a gf, meaning my checks are less useful. If bunnies is the gf then her partner probably voted Bill Murray to save her, which sulfur didn't. Which is curious.


who does that leave.

Altho sulf didnt vote to save her. He didnt vote against her he wasted his vote if i recall correctly. He simply could have been waiting to see if bunnies needed his vote to survive and if so use it
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May 28 2015 18:53 GMT
#1667
On May 29 2015 03:09 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 03:02 sicklucker wrote:
On May 29 2015 02:03 batsnacks wrote:
I think I'm just going to assume all the claims are legit. I'm the cop, Tiktok is the mason, plot is the rb. All town.

I think it's too dangerous for mafia to claim mason and risk getting cced if there is another mason in the game. Tiktok is probably the mason.

I think the way plot claimed is too insane to be mafia. I don't think mafia completely loses their shit and makes a huge scene like that.

So there must be a gf, meaning my checks are less useful. If bunnies is the gf then her partner probably voted Bill Murray to save her, which sulfur didn't. Which is curious.


who does that leave.

Altho sulf didnt vote to save her. He didnt vote against her he wasted his vote if i recall correctly. He simply could have been waiting to see if bunnies needed his vote to survive and if so use it


Yeah. Also, in sulfur's "reasons" post he said he would have been happy if either bill or bunnies got lynched, so it's strange how his vote wound up on neither of them. So maybe you're right. Either way I think he's a better lynch than 27nb today.

If all the claims are legit were left with barakos, SL, bunnies, disinfo, sulfur. I think at most 1 of barakos/27nb can be mafia because of the green checks.


barakos is probably just town because he got roleblocked and kp went through. at least decreased
sicklucker
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May 29 2015 17:24 GMT
#1812
SO lets see here im a little behind because I think we have auto
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May 29 2015 17:26 GMT
#1815
On May 30 2015 02:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 00:12 disformation wrote:
On May 29 2015 22:55 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So I actually Wa,t to lynch Sulfurus.

I filter dived, and when I reached the surface I came back up with nothing. Sulf later play has lacked highly. The day 1 was ok, but not enough for a town read.

##Vote:Sulfurus
I'm posti,g from my,phone but I can't really quote anything atm.


if you are town you are making this game a lot harder. that is not very original and looks a lot like sheeping to save your ass...
pretty disappointed so far.
do you have anything else?
your play D1 was way better... getting the feeling you lost interest after scott flipped...


but yeah i dont think we can lynch plotspot today, without finding something amazing...

tunneltoc and waffleboy (thats me in case someone doesnt get it) best team :p

also phone post. will be at home in 30min


Lol, i dont care about the scott flip. Scott did nthing to help us find the other two mafia. We have no reads based on that except for voting and probably high bussing. Im going off of what i know.

How is that not original? I was reading Sulfurus town day 1. Many people have been calling me scummy for this, but i am reevaluating my read.

I gave what I have already. I said we dont lynch any of the claimed roles, and we dont lynch the greenchecks. The greencheck on the other person that was checked could very well be real, and i know the greencheck on me is real because i am town.




yes i do his filter confirmed me/bm and plots. Then you guys went and lynched bm
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May 29 2015 17:26 GMT
#1816
On May 30 2015 02:20 boxerfred wrote:
How likely is it to have only one mason in the setup? Tictok's tunneling way too hard IMHO. However I still think he's the second mason but I want to point out every possibility.


breske would have let us no 0% chance theres only 1 mason
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May 29 2015 17:27 GMT
#1819
On May 30 2015 02:23 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 02:08 Tictock wrote:
Honestly town can do whatever it wants.

I'm not sheeping this weak as hell case on Sul. I'm more convinced 27nb just doesn't care at this point.

I could be way out in WIFOM land but at least I'm trying.


So push SL or disinfo or barakos... Here's a good place to start: SL likes to drop off in activity once he's safe as mafia.


this is true. BUt I also do it when my two scum reads that are out of my poe list are the people with votes ;p

(bunnies sulf)
sicklucker
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May 29 2015 17:30 GMT
#1820
Poe list if bats is cop

Me
Bats
Tictock
plots?
barakos?

We need 5. putting both plots and barkos in the same list might be risky because there never less likely the same alignment because one roleblocked the other
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May 29 2015 17:42 GMT
#1824
On May 30 2015 02:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 02:26 sicklucker wrote:
On May 30 2015 02:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 30 2015 00:12 disformation wrote:
On May 29 2015 22:55 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So I actually Wa,t to lynch Sulfurus.

I filter dived, and when I reached the surface I came back up with nothing. Sulf later play has lacked highly. The day 1 was ok, but not enough for a town read.

##Vote:Sulfurus
I'm posti,g from my,phone but I can't really quote anything atm.


if you are town you are making this game a lot harder. that is not very original and looks a lot like sheeping to save your ass...
pretty disappointed so far.
do you have anything else?
your play D1 was way better... getting the feeling you lost interest after scott flipped...


but yeah i dont think we can lynch plotspot today, without finding something amazing...

tunneltoc and waffleboy (thats me in case someone doesnt get it) best team :p

also phone post. will be at home in 30min


Lol, i dont care about the scott flip. Scott did nthing to help us find the other two mafia. We have no reads based on that except for voting and probably high bussing. Im going off of what i know.

How is that not original? I was reading Sulfurus town day 1. Many people have been calling me scummy for this, but i am reevaluating my read.

I gave what I have already. I said we dont lynch any of the claimed roles, and we dont lynch the greenchecks. The greencheck on the other person that was checked could very well be real, and i know the greencheck on me is real because i am town.




yes i do his filter confirmed me/bm and plots. Then you guys went and lynched bm


How did is filter cocnfirm any of that? Its easily possible to bus in this setup.

It's honestly stupid, but it is easy.

dDidnt he call me mafia too?

So does that confirm me?


nope get mad about it. His first post was him trying to get on my good side. His second post was pushing plots.His third post was pushing bm.

3 towns spewed by a 3 post mafia.
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May 29 2015 17:43 GMT
#1825
bm was at like the end of my poe list and I barely mentioned him at the end of my kill reads once. Im not gonna 100% clear him for what scott said but it did hold alot of weight.
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May 29 2015 17:44 GMT
#1827
The way bm unvoted me when I unvoted him made me a lil suspicious still
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May 29 2015 20:27 GMT
#1874
Sign i cant decide either bats. Gonna spend some time before the vote
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May 29 2015 20:30 GMT
#1876
On May 30 2015 05:14 batsnacks wrote:
Voting my green check feels dumb as hell. Like I checked bunnies so that I wouldn't have to deal with this but here I am anyway dealing with it.


wouldnt it be epic if we were right and found mafia tho?
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May 29 2015 20:31 GMT
#1877
On May 30 2015 05:16 boxerfred wrote:
so is anyone going to make a case on SL now?


you cant just make up a case. Theres either a case or there isint.
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May 29 2015 20:37 GMT
#1879
On May 22 2015 10:24 Sulfurus wrote:
@sicklucker is it not normal for the mafia QT to be open during pregame b/c if it is you shouldn't have made that dumbtell
also ##Vote: Breshke


interesting his first post is to tell me that the qt has been open for 24hours. Either hes mafia or he read the op fairly well pregame
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May 29 2015 20:45 GMT
#1883
On May 29 2015 12:38 Sulfurus wrote:
@27nb How can you recommend me as a good cop check N1 when had me as town up untill D2 (which also happens to be the day I first put you on my scum list)?

Honestly I am starting to really like the world where NinjaBunnies the GF attempted to pocket on D1 to get more votes for he mislynches.

Looking at that post again she also recommended that Breske be checked even though she apperently townread him since D1. How was she planning on getting any information from that?


can someone bring up the quote where bunnies asks breske to be checked? About to vote sulp i think
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May 29 2015 20:46 GMT
#1885
I feel like boxerfred has a great chance to flip mafia
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May 29 2015 20:49 GMT
#1887
why are neither bunnies or sulp putting up any sort of defense tho?
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May 29 2015 20:53 GMT
#1890
bunnies has lied a few times blatantly god dammit there both so scummy.

On May 22 2015 07:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 07:00 sicklucker wrote:
1st


Scum



like she tried to rub this off as not a joke vote but a serious vote because I claimed town
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May 29 2015 20:54 GMT
#1892
On May 23 2015 08:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 08:44 disformation wrote:
On May 23 2015 08:37 27ninjabunnies wrote:
OMGUS? Did you call me mafia? I can't remember?

What connection between sulfurus and me?
I called sulfurus town. Not much to it.
I still need to read Sulfurus' recent posts to get a feel for if still town or not. But from early posts, yes. sulfurus seemed pretty town.


I was implying a possible mafia connection between him and you via:
On May 22 2015 11:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Sulfurus top town newbie read.
Not lynching for entire game.

Or maybe atleast 2 days

Which is imo way stronger than you giving him a town read. Especially for that one post (which had a mistake in it).


I see me giving a read on sulfurus, but has sulfurus actually given a read on me? *Reads sulfurus filter* Nope

So not sure how you can see a connection, except a one sided connection.

Top newbie read- he was a newbie, commented on a question I asked, and his answer seemed genuine at the time


disinfo called out as a team early. She defended hard lol.

But if they are a team why didnt they concede yet?
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May 29 2015 21:00 GMT
#1894
bah I could go either way probably sulp. Gonna read boxers filter now because I love shennanies
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May 29 2015 21:01 GMT
#1896
Your green check is garbage because there a gf in the game like 90%+ of the time and barkos is 95%+ town
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May 29 2015 21:02 GMT
#1897
name 2 mafia bunnies
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May 29 2015 21:09 GMT
#1899
Like im kiliing them in any order unless boxer has the scummiest filter of all time. Whatever
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May 29 2015 21:11 GMT
#1900
hitting a mafia is pretty important here tho. We can double cop check roleblock someone like disinfo/boxerfred and have a confirmed
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May 29 2015 22:23 GMT
#1946
ahuh
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May 29 2015 22:38 GMT
#1953
plots dont roleblock who he says. Theres 2 mafia if they know who your roleblocking its pointless. Pick like the 3or 4 scummiest players and rng it
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May 29 2015 22:45 GMT
#1954
acualy plots if your around like 10 minutes before the end of the night, I might have a good suggestion on who to roleblock that will seal town the win. But if i say it now mafia will just change who delivers it.
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May 29 2015 23:30 GMT
#1962
plots when you block who I say and theres 0 kp in the night town wins. At least consider listening to me
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May 29 2015 23:33 GMT
#1963
this newbie game is acualy one of the most interesting ones ive been apart of. Im exited
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May 29 2015 23:44 GMT
#1966
or we can abuse the system and you can submit it with 1 minutes left ?
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May 29 2015 23:45 GMT
#1967
Should I just say it and wifmo?
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May 30 2015 00:36 GMT
#1974
well heres what I was thinknig and it will prop get me flamed and im paranoid as fuck.

You rb bats. If hes a real cop mafia will kill him who cares no harm done you miss your 1/10 shot.

But if hes fake claiming ( he pushed a lynch off bunnies twice) then he will100% deliver the kp
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May 30 2015 01:24 GMT
#1978
who caree if both claims are legit cop will die and he has a pretty low chance of stopping kp
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May 30 2015 01:29 GMT
#1979
anyway I dont acualy expect you to do it. But those were my thoughts. But its nice if you consider it. So in the chance bats is fake claiming he doesint always feel safe to carry the kp so you might catch his partner
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May 30 2015 03:48 GMT
#1981
I just said that bunnies thanks. What a player
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May 30 2015 03:49 GMT
#1982
like dont roleblock anyone whos heavily scum read because he wont be delivering kp. Roleblock null to townie people like me
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May 30 2015 18:34 GMT
#1991
I really didnt care who got lynched out of the two. But I thought bunnies was a slightly better tactical lynch and I said so many times if you ignored my advice thats on you.

I was in an intense dota game from 50 minutes before to 5 minutes after and I didnt bother to check for two people that I want lynched regardless
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May 30 2015 18:37 GMT
#1992
This is the second lynch inarow that bats saved bunnies from the jaws of death. If he does not die today we snap lynch bunnies.

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May 30 2015 21:53 GMT
#1994
+ Show Spoiler +
If I die you kill bats immediately. As unlikely as it may sound. If bats is fake claiming his play here is to kill someone skeptical and knowledgeable like me and push a lynch on plots as a fake
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May 30 2015 22:17 GMT
#2007
well i didnt say you should. I said you should random him and a few others.But if your really a role its a great block because theres so many roles its a possible fakeclaim. SO it was good
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May 30 2015 22:18 GMT
#2013
If plots was mafia him claiming that he blocked bats would be really weird. Also if he was mafia and blocked bats and bats was not killed he could get a lynch on me easy for telling him to block the cop and the cop not dying ;p
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May 30 2015 22:19 GMT
#2014
ya i think im ride or die with plots
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#2016
no plots didnt block me. he blocked bats ;p
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May 30 2015 22:20 GMT
#2018
So like this games super interesting for a newbie game.Not even totally sure who the mafia is. kinda motivated now
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May 30 2015 22:21 GMT
#2021
Tictoc and plots are off the table today. Maybe barakos too but thats iffy. Im looking at everyone really but obv bunnie is the defualt
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May 30 2015 22:25 GMT
#2025
So lets say bunnies is the gf which is a stretch but very likely in my mind.

That leaves me/dis/boxer as the only other lynches if we decide to leave the green checks for later.

I know im town so from my pov Im pretty sure at least one of you two are mafia and it could even be both of you if bunnies town.
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May 30 2015 22:31 GMT
#2029
On May 31 2015 07:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, I want to look at the world where there are two mafia roleblockers. Everyone tell me what your thoughts are on this, and if it's possible?

Because that was the stupidest play there plots could have ever made if he was town.

You don't RB the cop unless you are mafia, or you are 100% sure he is mafia with a fake claim.
Neither of those plots had voiced.

Roleblocking the cop does nothing to confirm anything.


if bats was fakelcaiming he would have stopped kp and won the game. rb mafia is a pretty low chance. So eliminating that world is fine. If anyone was going to fake claim in this game it was going to be bats.
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May 30 2015 22:34 GMT
#2032
so I have a message to plots and tictoc. Your both fucking town stop fighting or whatever. Like your the two most confirmed towns in the game.

Tictoc is an uncced mason (lolz) and plots has done crazy things that very few if any people would do as mafia. Like if his plan is to confuse the hell out of us and fakedumbtells as a first time player then I will gladly give him the win. But dumbtells are a thing especially in first/second time players.
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May 30 2015 22:39 GMT
#2038
On May 31 2015 07:38 Barakos wrote:
you don't deal with tictock...

if he tries to lynch you again, just ignore him... I'll do the same. Focus on important stuff and get your mind on the guys, that actually could be mafia. If tictock actually starts this bs again, we just make sl fight him.


this altho plz not me
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May 30 2015 22:40 GMT
#2039
oh interesting vote. if there mafia together im sure they have to put scum on me to win
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May 30 2015 22:53 GMT
#2045
On May 31 2015 06:57 Barakos wrote:
don't block tictock.. he is like the only confirmed town besides you.

potential mafia at this point are bunnies, disfo, boxer, sl. (bats too, but blocking him seems pointless, cause he is most likely killed tonight, if he is actually cop)

If I were you, I'd pick one of those. Not saying anything more. ^^

Someone said pick someone, who seems towny, cause this might make for a surprise... or pick the most scummy, caus mafia might suspect you to pick someone town.. just please block out of the 4 names.



i dont think a mafia ever tells a town pr to waste his power. Town points
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May 30 2015 22:53 GMT
#2047
to not waste*
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May 30 2015 22:56 GMT
#2048
On May 31 2015 07:53 plotspot wrote:
I don't know anymore, what makes sense? I feel like I jump from one tunnel to another.
I could also go on the SL tunnel, then it's like he is the mastermind knowing Bats is cops and persuaded me to put my block on him, so I am guaranteed to miss my RB, and cannot even prove my block anymore.
The same thing goes for the Barakos tunnel, I pointed it out last night. But that's so crazy.

If we believe Tictock is Mason. Then we have bunnies, boxerfred and disformation left as mafia. That's all.


if my play was to make you waste your block so you can become confirmed. Why am I calling you confirmed town here
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 30 2015 23:00 GMT
#2051
ya ok so like im never lynching barakos either.

So if you guys dont derp and lynch me we have two lynches left. Theres 2 mafia in disin , bunnies ,bf
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 30 2015 23:01 GMT
#2052
oh wait I have auto. (if you dont lynch me) We can lynch all 3 If 2 of the 3 are mafia in any order
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 30 2015 23:02 GMT
#2054
Poe list

Barakos
tcitoc
plots
Me

kill rest profit? whos down
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 30 2015 23:04 GMT
#2060
Oh ya we dont have auto if tictock and plots try to kill each other.SIgn
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 30 2015 23:13 GMT
#2064
Tictock ok so your saying mafia does not have a rb left. So far this story checks out because the rb was used on bats/rels who died. So why dont we just leave plots alone and he can rb you or someone you trust. Then they can confirm he was roleblocked.

If hes mafia claiming roleblock without being able to roleblock hes insane. Because eventually his story wont check out because no ones reporting being roleblocked.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 30 2015 23:21 GMT
#2070
tictock if I dint suggest him to roleblock bats. PLOTS HAD TO RB SOMEONE OTHER THEN BARAKOS. This would have confirmed plots as a rber.

Hes a roleblocker its so stupid to fake claim if you cant acualy roleblock someone.He may be town, he may be mafia but he is a roleblocker and it will be confirmed tonight.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 30 2015 23:22 GMT
#2073
Like if I didnt make that suggestion to rb bats.Plots would have been an outed mafia acording to your theory. No mafia would back themselfs into that corner . Plots is really a roleblocker if hes not ill eat a bear
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 30 2015 23:24 GMT
#2075
Like i admit barakos/plots team makes some sense (im not gonna live in that world because I town read them both individual but if one fliped mafia I would kill the other.
sicklucker
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May 30 2015 23:28 GMT
#2078
On May 31 2015 08:23 boxerfred wrote:
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On May 31 2015 08:13 sicklucker wrote:
Tictock ok so your saying mafia does not have a rb left. So far this story checks out because the rb was used on bats/rels who died. So why dont we just leave plots alone and he can rb you or someone you trust. Then they can confirm he was roleblocked.

If hes mafia claiming roleblock without being able to roleblock hes insane. Because eventually his story wont check out because no ones reporting being roleblocked.

Flawed logic.

Tictocks: "please block me, I trust myself."
Tictocks gets killed.

Tictocks: "please block SL, I trust him."
SL gets killed.

So..?



##vote boxerfred

Stop trying to light the fire. Were a plots/tictoc reconciliation away from winning the game.

All plots has to do is roleblock you disinfo or bunnies. If mafia kills them thats great for us. If he doesint and hes mafia hes claiming mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 30 2015 23:30 GMT
#2079
plots your not allowed to say who you roleblock tonight. Just make sure its someone outside of my poe list .

Bunnies/bf/disinfo

You can even block me if your suspicious of me but if you block outside of it your hurting town alot.

There problem solved we will confirm him torm
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 30 2015 23:32 GMT
#2081
But plots you understand why its important you dont say who you roleblock. Mafia could kill that person and use it as an excuse to vote you out
sicklucker
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May 30 2015 23:34 GMT
#2082
On May 31 2015 08:31 plotspot wrote:
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On May 31 2015 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
tictock if I dint suggest him to roleblock bats. PLOTS HAD TO RB SOMEONE OTHER THEN BARAKOS. This would have confirmed plots as a rber.

Hes a roleblocker its so stupid to fake claim if you cant acualy roleblock someone.He may be town, he may be mafia but he is a roleblocker and it will be confirmed tonight.

they target me tonight and I'll die more likelier if we don't find one of the mafias left. I will sure to leave a note.


hum thats right if you leave a note and stop kp we can get a confirmed mafia. Hum not sure
sicklucker
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May 31 2015 03:06 GMT
#2123
On May 31 2015 07:38 boxerfred wrote:
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On May 31 2015 07:24 Barakos wrote:
ok... mafia from least likely to most likely only based on claims:

boxerfred, disfo, sl (no claims, no checks)
ninjabunnies, greencheck, but possible godfather)
barakos (greencheck, but possible godfather; roleblocked in a night with a scum-nightkill)
plotspots (roleblocker, with one confirmed mafia-roleblocker and no other town powerroles)
tictock (mason, that has gone insane over losing his mason-partner)

mafia based on feeling:
disfo
27nb
bf
sl

would lynch down that list, depending I don't find anything completely spectacular in the filters

for now

##vote: disformation

Wait, this is my list from D2. I started the Dis/SL/bunnies stuff when everyone was on Sulf. Can you explain to me how the RB that you had on to you speaks for you not being GF?

for now, too:
##vote: disformation


On May 31 2015 08:37 boxerfred wrote:
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On May 31 2015 08:16 Barakos wrote:
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I'll be off for tonight... because after sad comes mad. -.-'
ty for playing voice of reason, sl.

I'd love to know whether you didn't see the flawed logic or chose to ignore it. You're strengthening ticktocks case by that.

Okay, so we have tic's huge case, explaining why Barakos and Plots are the GF pair - and we have the other case, where bunnies is GF and one of me, dis, sl is scum and where plots is the RB.

(3rd possibility: GF + GF + RB setup which is not likely I guess since its the only scenario that would not include one scum member in between the three guys)

So it comes down to Barakos and bunnies. If we lynch Barakos and he flips red, we pretty much have plots as the remaining scum member, eliminating chances. If we lynch bunnies and she flips red, we're down to three guys with one scum member on them. Those three guys are disinformation, sicklucker and myself. I'd go for lynching between the two. It's a 50% chance.

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On May 31 2015 08:26 Barakos wrote:
On May 31 2015 08:23 boxerfred wrote:
On May 31 2015 08:13 sicklucker wrote:
Tictock ok so your saying mafia does not have a rb left. So far this story checks out because the rb was used on bats/rels who died. So why dont we just leave plots alone and he can rb you or someone you trust. Then they can confirm he was roleblocked.

If hes mafia claiming roleblock without being able to roleblock hes insane. Because eventually his story wont check out because no ones reporting being roleblocked.

Flawed logic.

Tictocks: "please block me, I trust myself."
Tictocks gets killed.

Tictocks: "please block SL, I trust him."
SL gets killed.

So..?



still this is perfect, because that way, you can control mafia-nightkills

you just make plots block suspects.

Then mafia either kills the suspects or you get plots confirmed.

and if plots blocks mafia and mafia denies being blocked, you kill plots, see he was the rb and found yourself a mafia.

True. That makes me feel like we should start with voting bunnies. Which I try to do since D2.

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On May 31 2015 08:28 sicklucker wrote:
On May 31 2015 08:23 boxerfred wrote:
On May 31 2015 08:13 sicklucker wrote:
Tictock ok so your saying mafia does not have a rb left. So far this story checks out because the rb was used on bats/rels who died. So why dont we just leave plots alone and he can rb you or someone you trust. Then they can confirm he was roleblocked.

If hes mafia claiming roleblock without being able to roleblock hes insane. Because eventually his story wont check out because no ones reporting being roleblocked.

Flawed logic.

Tictocks: "please block me, I trust myself."
Tictocks gets killed.

Tictocks: "please block SL, I trust him."
SL gets killed.

So..?



##vote boxerfred

Stop trying to light the fire. Were a plots/tictoc reconciliation away from winning the game.

All plots has to do is roleblock you disinfo or bunnies. If mafia kills them thats great for us. If he doesint and hes mafia hes claiming mafia

I'm not lighting any fire (as you can see from my post). I'm reasoning.

##unvote ##vote 27ninjabunnies

almost 2am here. good night.


You vote the two other dudes. Then when I vote you your saying im the mafia, Ya ok
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 31 2015 03:07 GMT
#2124
On May 31 2015 08:39 boxerfred wrote:
If I had to bet money on solving the game, I'd say 27nb as GF and SL or Dis as goon. Having a tendency towards SL by now.


IM THE MAFIA BUT YOU VOTE THE OTHER TWO hummmm
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 31 2015 10:13 GMT
#2147
Holy helll can you guys talk about boxerfred bunnies and disinfo. YOu know people whos alignments we dont know. gnight
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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May 31 2015 20:29 GMT
#2159
On June 01 2015 03:17 Tictock wrote:
@ Dis
Do you really think I'm just tunneled here? My case has nothing of value?

I feel like I'm talking to people with hands over their ears.


no your case has no value. If they are mafia its not for the reasons you state. Everyones telling you your wrong you should listen
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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June 01 2015 17:20 GMT
#2217
On June 01 2015 21:05 disformation wrote:
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On June 01 2015 20:49 Barakos wrote:
So - in case bunnies is red, bf is most likely green.
If she flips green, then well... shit. Votes mean nothing, since then both D2 and D3 were lynches between two townies and mafia couldn't care less, who to vote.


Was thinking about that a bit, too. The same would apply to sicklucker. Which would mean 27ninjabunnies and me would be the mafia team. Which is unfortunately impossible as my role pm says otherwise. So it is also very possible that one of these two (sicklucker, boxerfred) was trying to bus bunnies for town cred in case she gets lynched. So that is a bit WIFOM.

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On June 01 2015 20:49 Barakos wrote:
Last thing - on sl: I haven't reread sls filter indepth (too long for reading it at work). I think he is the worst lynch today, but in case that bunnies flips green, the scum-team imho is SL + disfo. His posting has decreased significnatly since breshke is dead (bats said, he posts less, once he feels safe) and mostly all of his reasons, why he calls himself confirmed town are weak at best (scotts filter, the votes on scott, etc...) but this is only in case bunnies flips green today.


As explained above sicklucker+27ninjabunnies could also be a thing.
But unflipped associations are not really helpful right now.


I voted and pushed bunnies twice. unflipped associations are really helpful now with 3-4 potential mafia. I wish more people would use them like barkos (altho correctly) so I dont have to do the work in the next 5 hours
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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June 01 2015 17:23 GMT
#2220
On June 02 2015 00:40 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So.

By POE- mafia are BF and SL.

I think those would be great lynches.

I also really want to sheep ticktock and vote plots... because fuck plots for making absolutely horrible roleblocks.


I am currently voting bf. Try again
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
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June 01 2015 17:28 GMT
#2221
ok so I was waiting till the end of the day to tryhard to get the most information. I kind of have a poe list that contains two mafia in 3. bunnies/disinfo/bf.

Bf was doing nothing and being distubtive to town for no reason early so I voted him. Now the other two are voting him. So I have to figure out if hes town or one is bussing him for cred
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 01 2015 17:30 GMT
#2223
On June 02 2015 01:15 Tictock wrote:
I really don't know how I can prove to you guys that I'm not just tunneled here.

I've thought this thing out, it makes sense. That's why I'm so focused on it.

In case you need a reminder and don't want to do more filter diving, here is all my posts today related to my cases.

I really was hoping to see people at least giving me arguments why I could be wrong. Instead I just see people being afraid to check if a blue claim was false, and not being able to check if a Greencheck was false. Again I'm not talking about flips here, I'm talking about inconsistencies in peoples play.

Main Case (plots and Bara)
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 31 2015 08:02 Tictock wrote:
Ok guys, I know you thought Crazy Tunneltoc had finally given up and was sulking somewhere in defeat or something. But you can never vanquish the Tunneltoc! I'm back and ready to blow your minds.

I have no way to prove this, so it's really just for my own amusement, but I prepared these posts with the intent on putting them up more or less after D4 starts.

Some predictions: + Show Spoiler +

-plots and Bara have been pointing fingers at me for having given up since my "plot" (get it) didn't work
-prob some accusations that I'm not even a Mason and that Bre was solo
-plots RB was on Bats or myself, really it could be anyone though. I'm pretty sure plots RBs the kill target here, but really all plots has to do here is say that the person he RB'd is scum when they say they weren't
-Idea is to have the whole D4 revolve around this argument. Remember, it doesn't matter if plots gets lynched as long as it happens in such a way to secure towncred for Bara


Obv scum killed Bats. If they killed anyone else it was to protect plots RB claim. Can't see them leaving bats though, I'm sure he was trying to check plots N3 and they can't have that.

Honestly I can't imagine town staying fooled by this after I pointed everything out before EoD, but I'd rather not drag things out anymore. So here I am unveiling my case. This will be a multi-post case, so be warned. I may leave a summary post depending on how long this gets or how motivated I stay.

Main Points

-Plots is scum. This is a short version of my scumread on him, but I'll expand on it.+ Show Spoiler +
He's been Tryharding this whole game but never brings anything of worth to the game. D1 it's all the graphics. D2 defending SL from Me and getting all buddy buddy. He also blows up over nothing (claims I misunderstood a post) attacking my reading ability & fabricating all sorts of ways I'm not reading him right. He does all that instead of restating his thoughts like I ask him to. D3 total tunnel on me, is 100% convinced he can make me look like shit kus he doesn't think I'm mason (for some reason he's really sure he picked up Mason on BF). When that doesn't work he falls back on Sul but keeps pushing me.


-Plots fabricates a 2nd RB role. He uses my own mistake of bringing up setup speculation to his teams advantage.

-Setup is really RB, Goon, GF vs Masons(2) & Cop. This is a balanced setup and perfectly normal in a newbie game.

-This RB invention isn't a solid idea until D2, which is why plots claims it then to "soft claim" his role.

-Bara has to be N2 RB so that they can push this idea, AND! it gives them both instant towncred enough to force town to mislynch D3.

-Scum plan going forward is to have Plots keep sticking his neck out and causing as much confusion as possible. Plots is expendable as long as he creates a good smokescreen for Bara. While Bara is safe to hold back and blend. At this point Bara can just keep sheeping town like he did D3, his cred is that solid as long as there isn't anyone crazy enough to thing a blue claim could be false and push it...



Filter Dive on Plots
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 31 2015 08:03 Tictock wrote:
You guys didn't like my suspicions of plots. I don't blame you, I know I've gone overboard in many ways this game. That tunnel on SL, the proposition of SK being a thing when I clearly didn't understand what the goals of the role was. Maybe I have been tunneled on plots, but you know the saying "Being paranoid does not mean your wrong"

Let me walk you through plots play, as I see it. Indulge my thinking for just a little bit please, try it on for size. If you don't like it feel free to say so but it had better be more than just attacks on my character or ability. You have to target my reasoning here.

Going mild on the quotes here, or at least I started out trying to go mild >.< Do your own Fing reading if you want to verify every little point I make. Also this got Big really fast. Spoilered to keep thread readable.

+ Show Spoiler +
Plots if you recall, starts this game seeming to have forgotten he was playing. He then returns to the game so ready to go that he does some crazy spreadsheeting of everyone's posts. These look impressive, like they took a lot of time. In fact they took so much time plots is never able to do full reads on everyone. Finally D2 he finishes his analysis of D1 and posts all the results, along with helpful instructions on how to use the charts.

That's a lot of work right? Like it really is impressive... but how likely is it to really give meaningful information? Plots used his analysis in detail in his reads D1, which only had the first 6? hours of the game involved (he posted these about MidDay btw). But look at his reads AFTER he finished his analysis, he posted them here just a little after he give us his finished charts. Huh, he sure doesn't use much of anything from the charts does he? Almost like he doesn't believe they are useful either. All that work, he doesn't even try to make a full set of reads on everybody from them?

Plots then goes pretty carefree, like he's done his job. He has. Nobody, well almost nobody, would dare scum read someone with all that work under his belt. So he starts chatting with SL, being all jokey and chummy. A decent pocket attempt if i ever have seen one (I think it's actually my first ^.^), SL has been under constant pressure and def needs a friend at this point in the game.

That is also likely why plots has been weakly townreading SL the whole game. This point always stood out to me as odd. Sl is a very hard player to read, especially early on. If plots is as tryhard noob as he looks from the charts, how is he SO sure SL is town?

Here is where things start to get interesting. I blunder in, super scumming plots over this interaction with SL. Clearly my attention is focused on SL at this point, but the fact that I call out his pocket attempt is bad for plots. So he decides to try and undermine my townyness. Do note at this point plots had only posted 2 reads on me, one null and one as clear town.


Plots starts to get super mad at my points against him. I first call him out for his read on Rels. Remember that? The first thing plots did D2 was give a full paragraph scum read on the guy who just flipped green. His reasoning, well I was working on this, might as well finish it and post it, shows people I'm trying. Why would town post a read like this after a flip? It adds nothing to be discussed, it wastes space, it gives slim towncred, and it's downright weird.

Now I definitely read all plots posts here a few times already. While there are a few places where plots is right and I did misread his posts. + Show Spoiler +
Honest question, who finds plots posts easy to read?
He begins to make attempts to paint me as a bad guy for pressuring plots. I'll give him one point in his defense, I didn't really interact much with plots at this point. I had posted a large case on him because I saw several things I thought were scummy and posted them as soon as I could push them out.

Other stuff is going on in his filter right now as well. He gives a read on SL and 27nb. The reas on SL is not bad actually, plots gives lots of reasoning and takes into consideration other opinions, odd though that he now thinks SL is shifty when plots has been claiming he's pretty town up till now. His read ends with a bunch of questions, which plots later claims were trying to get people to think SL might be a role. His read on 27nb is total crap on the other hand. It is just sheeping everyone else's opinion. Yet plots is willing to vote 27nb, and then later swap to BM for no reason other than BM voting 27nb.

Still, after the initial case I post, I do start to make efforts to talk to plots. I ask him to give details to backup his claims/defense, admit I might have been jumping the gun, and even admit that maybe I am just misunderstanding him. In this last point I especially admit, I mean it's really easy to have a misunderstanding. So there was a break in our exchanges and that let him get out those reads.

Late in the day, I post about more things I don't like about plots. Again plots gets super defensive, this time really attacking my ability to read. The post that really stood out to me in this exchange was this one. That post is a bunch of garbled nonsense. The point of it is to suggest several different ways that I MUST have been misreading plots and is largely putting words into my mouth. Why does plots go through all this effort? Why not just tell me what he really meant not what I'm misreading from his post. I think hes trying to slander me, make me appear to be as unreliable as he can.

This covers up to N2 and is less than Half! plots filter. N2 starts somewhere just after pg 4 in plots filter.

Plots now decides to put out his RB claim, well he claims that HE was RB's N1. This is later said to be a "soft claim" for his RB role. In fact right after plots says he got RB'd he start talking about it like it HAD to have come from town. At first this looks strange, though it does fit with him later claiming RB.

After this though, plots really starts to focus on me. He blows up once again about our misunderstanding (I did push him in not the most diplomatic way) but even though I'm CLEARLY asking him to clear things up, he posts this which is largely just what he already posted.

Page 5 of plots filter starts with him responding to me answering his questions to me. He basically just calls me dumb and says I have no way to know that SL isn't a role. I had reached this conclusion on my own, however Bre helped me solidify it. Feel free to ask me why I thought this later, this post is big enough.

Shortly after that Plots starts his spam posting for the day. Some of the tunnel on me starts, but breaks off to throw out some stuff about roles and keeps doing this Nolynch crap for literally no reason.

The whole way Plots claims his role is a little weird. He doesn't come out with it, he slowly teases it, as though he's giving town some great secret. He also uses this to try and be "secretive" about his motives for RBing who he did.
He does eventually offer this,
On May 28 2015 21:36 plotspot wrote:
I RBed Rels, but she died that night. Remember that I scumread her. I even said I would have shot her if I was vig.
So I claimed that I was RBed by a roleblocker N2 to tell town that we have a RB, but there wasn't any discussion worthwhile about it, you also didn't see me press the issue there.

What an odd choice to RB N1. Sure, ok Plots did scumread Rels and mentioned the Vig thing here,
On May 25 2015 07:10 plotspot wrote:
How do you know Rels wasn't Vig shot? I was about to make a case on scumreading him hard for the following points I prepared:
Rels: referring too much to others opinion, reading thread very carefully, the way RELS sets up lynch is also very comfortable (like lynch inactives), giving orders to others, thanks my post but posts no further thoughts, in comparison to Disinformation who displays overall anxiety in his reads and thoughts, Rels looks like he can handle any sudden change, there is nothing clouding his mind, others apparently have to do more than Rels,
you bet if I was Vig I would have shot her.

Another odd post. First how in the hell does Plots think a Vig shot Rels, because plots would if he were vig? He is also so sure Rels is scum here, but are his reasons good? And... wait this is right at start of D2, before plots has even finished his charts... but I see no evidence of him using his charts in this read once again... Would a Town RB, who spends all D1 making charts on activity, use this reasoning to block Rels? Well THIS plots doesnt, rather than use the tool he's spent so much time making he throws out these NAI points about Rels to scum her and say she was a good target here.

Still not convinced plots RB claim doesn't hold up? What about his N2 target, Barakos? Well as Dis points out in this post
On May 28 2015 22:58 disformation wrote:
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On May 28 2015 22:48 plotspot wrote:
On May 28 2015 22:37 Tictock wrote:

I notice SL and Dis are expecting me to claim mason. Honestly though, I feel like if I were a role wouldn't I be in the best position to not claim? Like most people are reading me as town anyway, if I were to claim a role it wouldn't really narrow things down at the moment.


I would have held to this thinking as well, but once the role speculation started to get too out of hand I realized it was in fact doing town more harm than good.

And thanks to a thing known as "a flip" Bre is in fact the only confirmed blue role at this moment in the game. It's up to town to decide if the people claiming roles have been acting in line with that role, and to sniff out any fake claims that have inconsistencies.

I think he still missed my question.

PLOTSPOT!!


What was your reasoning RBing him in the first place?


The "him" = Barakos


I couldn't read him that well. While I said he was town earlier, I had my doubts internally and not published. I wonder why batsnacks thought the same?


That is basically the only mention of barakos in your filter...

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On May 26 2015 07:47 plotspot wrote:
Barakos: feels genuine. I believe what he says. He has an alerting but inoffensive way of expressing himself and most (if not all) his posts I can say: “hmm yeah I see the meaning behind it”. A possibly strange point which reinforce my town read on him is that he fantasizes about how scum QT looks like here. For me it’s hard to imagine scum would do that, I mean just for the thought of it at all. But here we have a townie imagining how things went in the scum QT and scott’s case is really a strange one, that leaves me wondering whether he betrayed his mates or whether they knew he had some time issues and just deal with it somehow.


Why the fuck would you roleblock a null/town read over a scum read?

Plots has only been town or nullreading Bara all game.

I think plots reasons for his RB's is very much a good thing to be looking at. I spent a fair portion of D3 asking plots why Bara was his 2nd RB. He only ever mentions his RB on bara in these 2 posts one is his super weak answer to my question.
On May 28 2015 21:58 plotspot wrote:
Of course I RBed Rels and Barakos. Barakos non-chalantly mentions he has been RBed? Lol if he was mafia I believe he should hang out in the thread a bit instead of expressing it like this.

On May 28 2015 22:48 plotspot wrote:
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On May 28 2015 22:37 Tictock wrote:

I notice SL and Dis are expecting me to claim mason. Honestly though, I feel like if I were a role wouldn't I be in the best position to not claim? Like most people are reading me as town anyway, if I were to claim a role it wouldn't really narrow things down at the moment.


I would have held to this thinking as well, but once the role speculation started to get too out of hand I realized it was in fact doing town more harm than good.

And thanks to a thing known as "a flip" Bre is in fact the only confirmed blue role at this moment in the game. It's up to town to decide if the people claiming roles have been acting in line with that role, and to sniff out any fake claims that have inconsistencies.

I think he still missed my question.

PLOTSPOT!!


What was your reasoning RBing him in the first place?


The "him" = Barakos


I couldn't read him that well. While I said he was town earlier, I had my doubts internally and not published. I wonder why batsnacks thought the same?

(he technically mentions the Bara RB in other posts as well, but they are just like that first quote. "Bara's RB claim proves I'm RB guys!"

Now plots does post this
On May 29 2015 00:38 plotspot wrote:
Also it's impossible for a mafia to think of such a ploy. He would risk his fucking life making up being RB, when he didn't even know there was one. Guess what would happen to mafia if he makes up such a ploy, saying he was RB N1? I would crush him. It's too dangerous, no mafia will ever do that. I on the other hand could because only I knew I targeted Rels and "luckily" she died for that ploy to work.
Imagine if I was to RB someone and he survives that Night. It would make this ploy impossible, it would have led to a fucking mess which mafia will have ultimately used to force me out.


Which is true, and a valid point. Why would scum invent such a play? What does it benefit them?

I will attempt to explain the scum logic here in another post, for now this is actually a good point. This does bring me to the one point that would destroy my theory. If there is a 3rd person who gets RB's then I'm absolutely wrong here.

Starting here plots starts to push numbers to explain why votes should go certain ways. He also starts to bring back the possibility of me and Sul being the scum team. He is also continuing to post setup speculations, keeping them broad and only suggests more "oddball" setups.

Towards EoD plots does more numbers to push votes on Sul, these make no sense though and are really just put out to keep town unsure of what is the best play.

There is more in the filter, but it is more recent and this has ballooned to be an epic wall of text. Hopefully I've made my points clear.


Detailed look at how this Play makes sense from scum
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On May 31 2015 08:03 Tictock wrote:
Whew, still with me?

At this point I want to point out that a NORMAL newbie setup is most likely, regardless of anything that has been said this game it is very unlikely that a bizarre setup would be used in a newbie game.

At the time of me writing this Bre is the only confirmed Blue role, Bats will probably have been killed and confirmed Cop so D4 is going to be all about plots vs me. Mason vs Town RB, which role makes more sense?

I propose that our game is setup like so:
RB, Goon, and GF vs Masons & Cop

Plots claim for RB is fake, and I poked holes in his claim in my last post.

Ok now lets talk about how what I'm suggesting makes sense from a scum perspective as this may not look like a good play at first.

- The Scum play D3 -


Imagine you are scum. You lost your RB Day 1 thanks to a somewhat lucky train by town. Since then town has been sidetracked by suspecting inactive people, or focused on SL. D2 went ok since Town is still largely off your trail, but there is one guy who is bringing suspicion to one of your team. You know you need 3 more mislynches to secure a victory. It seems like it's the right time for a bold play.

There has been some setup speculation in thread, since this game uses a semi-open setup scum!You knows just a little more than town, you know your own setup. What if there was a way to confuse town further about setup stuff, WHILE still getting info about the roles that are out there?

Thus the fake RB role is born.

This fake role serves to confuse town, forces other blues to claim (the info to town becomes too important now), AND manages to give towncred to the scum team since they can hide behind these claims.

"But Tunneltoc? Doesn't this play fall apart the next night?" I know your asking that now, but hear me out.

With this play Scum is almost guaranteed one of their mislynches (I did my best to stop it, but town wanted to believe all the blue claims too much), and gives them a solid shot at winning the game. D4 will start off with nobody claiming they got RB'd N3. What would you do as scum in this position? I know what i would do, pick a target D4 and say, "hey I roleblocked you!" when they deny it you go "ok well then your scum! clearly you want to confuse town and make them not believe my role!" Will plots do this to me? It seems like he HAS to. Plots and Bara as a team could not kill me N3 as it would give too much credence to my theories, besides that Bats could potentially check plots N3 so he needs to die.

This is risky. It means that plots is very likely to get lynched at some point. But as Scum, do you care? Isn't it worth plots sticking his head out like that if it means 1 surefire mislynch and a potential 2nd one the next day if you can throw enough shit on a player to get them scummed? At the very least plots would go out in a fury of confusion and misinformation, all while Bara can freely gauge town safe behind a greencheck (I haven't pointed this out yet, Bara didn't claim he was RB'd until well after Bats said he had been greenchecked) and bus plots when needed.

In other words the whole play is to spread misinformation for as long as possible while distracting Town from Bara so he can potentially ride out the game while town keeps lynching inactives.

Last thought here,
So then given all this, why would plots suggest Bara as GF? The whole play is built around the idea of protecting Bara.

This might actually be the only flaw I see in my thinking. It could just be a slip, but it does seem like something plots would be very careful about in this position. Still he was responding to my pressure to explain why he would RB Bara N2. It is possible he let slip a bit of his own thinking when trying to deflect my pressure and questions. When plots mentions Bara as GF it's used to counter my thinking at the time, that plots was mafia RB. It's a hole, but it's not much compared to how well my theory holds up everywhere else.



Vote analysis and 1st look at Bara
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On May 31 2015 08:03 Tictock wrote:
Last post in this series.

This one addresses Plots and Bara's votes all 3 days and I do a little filter diving on Bara. Bara's filter is much shorter than plots so you should read it yourself, I'm just going to point out a few things I noticed in it.

D1 Votes:

Both Plots and Bara avoid voting with the majority. They keep their votes on Dis.

Bara opens the game with his vote on Dis and lets it ride all day. His reasons are easy to find, it's like the first thing in his filter, they are all based off Bat's Iching. Bara never mentions scott, but he does suggest multiple times that he dislikes lynching inactives as it feels "coinflippy"

Plots doesn't do much D1, but he does give reads on Dis (his vote) and scott.
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3. disformation (DI): My scumread so far. He's fairly active in the first 3 hours, posting really in between the conversation of others with fine, careful, uncommiting. While others seem fairly focused on their conversation, he's kinda lurking and picking cherries. You have to go back, read and see what I mean. I'd vote for him.

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9. scott31337 (SC): appears rather late to just talke about BM and SL, not really trying to drive some conversation. I need to see more.


Nothing too convincing from these guys as to why they voted Dis over scott.

D2 Votes: Reminder that we Lynched VT Bill Murray D2, votes prob mean less than D1

Bara does repeat that he dislikes voting inactives again, also similar to D1 he places his vote on SL and lets it ride all day.

Plots gives us a read on 27nb here, but it's pretty useless and is all sheep just disguised as his own read. He then swaps his vote to BM
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On May 27 2015 05:22 plotspot wrote:
Lol sorry, bunnies is right. BM is like totally ninjavoting her and has disappeared into the dust since then. That looks so bad.

Unvote
##VOTE: Bill Murray

Again clearly sheeping.

D3 Votes:

Bara, literally just sheeps Bats. No more mention of inactives being coinflippy, no real thought. Posts some numbers at one point to try and show there is much better chance to hit Mafia by voting 27nb or Sul over plots.

Plots does some nonsense voting No Lynch at first, but later joins the vote on Sul. Unlike Bara he does show his reasoning, it's pathetic
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On May 28 2015 22:17 plotspot wrote:
On May 28 2015 09:48 Sulfurus wrote:
@Batsnacks How do you know Bunnies is not the GF?


I will explain how this post will reveal Sulfurus as Mafia, and basically supports my case without the Tictock interaction.
Sulfurus posted that question after clueless Batsnacks and disformation are hysterical about there being another Mafia RB.
The right question would have been "How do you know Bunnies and Barakos are not the GF"? In her mind it was 100% technically perfect that Barakos cannot be mafia. She assumes that Batsnacks believed this lie. The truth his however it is totally possible for Barakos to be Godfather with the Town RB setup. He just automatically reads him town because he is mafia.


Barakos & Plotspot: Scum Team?

Clearly these 2 have some pretty poor reasoning in all of their votes. I found it particularly interesting how Bara drops his own thoughts on SL and just sheeps Bats. When I ask him near EoD why he still thinks SL and Dis could be scum he give me this
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On May 29 2015 20:43 Barakos wrote:
Without any role-stuff I would still be onto sl/disfo, but that's not going to happen today... it's complete bs, to argue about what would happen without roles, when there are roles... you can argue, if they are valid claims or not, but pretending they don't exist and not using this information to your advantage is bad townplay... you need to use everything there is...

i am willing to speculate with you about fake-claims and stuff, because that is the reality the game takes place in, but to speculate, what would be without all the claims is just shutting your eyes and ignoring the major things that happend in the past 30 hours.

So I ask, well what do you find scummy about those 2? Why are they cleared by role stuff, they were never checked?
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On May 29 2015 20:47 Barakos wrote:
I am not clearing them, but our claimed cop is onto sulfurus so why not do the same? I could of course waste a vote on sl again like last time but I got someone I can sheep atm.

And I am sheeping our claimed cop and not the confirmed mason, because the confirmed mason wasn't making sense with his vote. :p



By the way, this post from Bara is what got me onto the idea that he was teamed with plots
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On May 29 2015 20:14 Barakos wrote:
Why are you working so hard on not lynching sulfurus?

Lynching plots would mean, lynching an confirmed rb on the off chance, there are 2 scum-rbs vs a single town-cop... sounds not convincing.
Lynching bunnies means lynching into a green-check on the 1/6-chance that there is a godfather between all the claimed vt and bunnies is the gf
Lynching sulfurus is a 2/4 scum, if you believe both greenchecks, 1/4 if you believe one of bunnies/me is the gf.

Notice how he gives literally no chance for plots to be scum, but some fraction chance of everyone else?

Did anyone notice that D3 there were only 2 players to claim I was defending Sul? Bara thinks so in that last post, and plots did here
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On May 29 2015 01:17 plotspot wrote:
EBWOP And I started scumreading Tictock even more when he defended Sulfurus heavily. Now my theory certainly sounds strange the longer we don't hear from boxerfred.


Was my post on Sul here, really that much of a defense? Wasn't I really just asking for good reasons behind our lynch target, and saying I don't see those reasons in Sul?

Plots and Bara were the only 2 people EoD3 to heavily post numbers to support voting Sul or bunnies.

This point might be weaker, but did anyone notice how the 2 of them were lurking a lot around EoD? When I start posting my theories about them, they BOTH suddenly appeared in thread giving me shit for it. It seemed clear to me that they were reacting in panic since I had suddenly broken their ploy. Could just be coincidence, but these 2 were fairly active EoD, much morose than any other EoD.

Actually filter Diving on Bara wasn't as revealing as I would have thought. I pulled up a few points that I already linked and quoted above. Bara makes a fair bit of towny posts throughout the days, his D1 vote and reasoning were crap but besides that his filter looks ok. As we got into EoD D3 and I throw out the notion that plots and Bara are the the scum team, Bara's posts start to look worse. It really wasn't until the post I quoted above that I started to suspect Bara.

This is why I'm still pushing plots as my vote, and why I did so D3 as well. Plots is more clearly scum than Bara. However if plots does flip Goon like I think he will then Bara becomes confirmed GF. Plots flips anything else, and my case on Bara is broken.



2nd look at Bara, this time assuming Plots is Town RB (untunneled)
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On June 01 2015 20:04 Tictock wrote:
Actually 27nb asks a fair question. Why am I switching my vote to Bara?

Well, you guys were probably right. I may have been focusing plots too hard. So I will make this case under the assumption that plots is Town RB.

Greenchecked, but is he GF?

So rather than tunnel him, I decided to follow his thinking. N2 plots blocked Bara becuase he thought he saw scum tendencies in his play. Having reviewed some things, I agree. I think plots backed off too early, Bara claiming the RB could easily be a ploy to keep people from guessing he is GF. Remember how he said it?

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On May 28 2015 07:57 Barakos wrote:
Just saw it now... I was roleblocked. Didn't see the pm at first.


Like an hour after Day phase had started. Remember the Day started with Bats claiming cop and stating his checks.
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On May 28 2015 07:04 batsnacks wrote:
Alright. I'm the cop. Barakos and 27nb are town. We're lynching sulfur today.

##vote sulfurus


Whats to stop GF!Bara from seeing his PM and seeing he got greenchecked as well? This gives him the perfect opportunity to fool not just one, but 2 blue roles, just by stating that he got RB'd. I know that in it self isn't enough to prove much, but it IS possible.

Votes


Remember Bara's votes D1 and D2? He voted Dis and then SL and gave pretty decent cases on them.
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On May 22 2015 16:49 Barakos wrote:
Morning everyone!

I'm here now and almost done to catching up.

First thoughts:

I like breschke pushing/tunneling sl, to prevent him from being lazy. Makes breschke look town in my eyes.

What I didn't like was disformations filter.
All he has done so far is posting fluff and agreeing to people but not contributing in any form, except a very weak and non-commiting push on bm for lurking.

And then there are these 2 posts:

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On May 22 2015 08:07 disformation wrote:

Uh... so let me try this...
The italic part says a good towny is up to talk about things happening in the thread and does not be too super defensive if someone else calls him scum. He is open and active and tries to get people to talk in order to find scum.
And the other part says that he should look at all the people and be open to reconsider his reads, otherwise he might tunnel super hard.


Still super cryptic stuff. At least I had something to think about for a bit. xD


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On May 22 2015 09:01 disformation wrote:
Uh. Didn't realize the Mafia QT would be open since 24h either. Otherwise I would have said something about his cheap read. xD
Still not seeing a lot to lynch sicklucker though. I kinda expected him to post "lol didn't read" stuff regardless of his alignment anyway. Though he was super eager to paint himself townie:

On May 22 2015 07:22 sicklucker wrote:
disinfo you gonna correctly read me town again?


Solid town read on Tictock for now. Asking all the questions I wish I had asked. xD
I agree that BM should explain his bunnies vote, if he is as serious as he claims.


In the bolded parts, he explains what good townplay should look like, and what he would like to have done.

And that is all he does... he explains and doesn't follow up with anything, that would be good townplay... he just shows, that he knows, what town should do but does actually nothing.
But since he shows, that he knows, what good townplay looks like, he is still "looking good" and tries to give the impression, that he is town but just hasn't had the opportunity to really do stuff.

So for now my vote is on him.

##vote disformation

That was his first post this game, and he never wavered from that logic. Bit odd right?
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On May 26 2015 19:39 Barakos wrote:
soo... reread the thread...

one thing i found kinda funny:

I make a post about the votes not meaning much, because it may very well have been planned to vote for unmotivated scum-scott and a few hours after disformation (my stongest scum-read at that moment) makes a huge post saying he analyzed the votes and stuff... it is almost as if you try to antagonize me, disfo..
Anyways... I doubt scum-disfo would do this, since i was the only one pushing him really hard and scum would at this point try to not draw more of my attention by actively trying to argue with me... so for now, disfo moves down from the top spot of my lynch-list.

27nb:
looks not so good. was never under my suspicion, because I felt the exchange we had about sulfurus and her reaction to the case disformation made against her.
Starts to look worse now.
I like tictocks point, about her trying to draw attention to the people voting scott by asking, if there was mafia between them and her promising a big reads-post and not delivering also looks bad.

sl:
oh god, what a mess... it is almost as if he tries to confuse everybody...
"i may or may not have a green check on barakos"
"i may be cop or doctor"
"i am vanilla town"
Like wtf this play looks bad on so many levels.
If you are vanilla town it is like the worst possible play to claim you have a green check on someone whose filter you haven't even read and you actually say, you can't read him properly... ok... he retracted in the end... i get that.
Next thing, why this play was bad as it can be: He might very well have provoked a counter-claim by the real cop/doc... this is a newbie-game after all and if there were a actual cop/doc in the game an excited newbie might have very well counterclaimed right on the spot. So him going all "i am role x/y" and then after some hours of waiting and no counterclaims saying "lol, just kidding i trolled you all, i am a plain vt." looks very much like rolehunting and hoping someone actually bites and counterclaims. Also there is this quote by him going like "masons, i know who you are, you might as well come out and claim."... next occasion he is rolehunting. but when boxerfred has a theory about a cop having a redcheck and therefor trying to start a wagon, he instantly calls him out on in. So it's ok, when he does it... but only, when he does it.

Other things I don't like about his spammy, mostly oneliner-filter:
He trys to paint himself in a towny light with the most absurd reasons, like the votecount for example.
He puts himself in the spot of a town hero by saying it was his vote and him persuading batsnacks to vote scott that finally swung the vote to lynch scott and not disformation, and when he is confronted with a reasonable arguement, that invalidates this arguement (my post that those votes may very well have been preplanned), his reaction is "lol you know, what mafia says in their qt? you are mafia!"

You are not mafia for thinking about, what mafia would do in their qt, and what might be their plans... that's a natural thing for town to do - you try to figure them out and you are paranoid about everything that isn't actually confirmed.
And this is one point where sl contradicts himself... see this quote:

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On May 26 2015 14:44 sicklucker wrote:
Maybe I was right about barokos and sulp pre planning their entrances how awesome would that be. Like there giving 0 critical thinking here we probably wont here from them for another 48 hours


He refers to this post:

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On May 22 2015 17:23 sicklucker wrote:


Did you guys just plan your list posts in the qt or something


Not only does he conveniantly forget, that he was throwing dirt at me for entering the thread at the same time as rels (a confirmed town, he also threw dirt at) and not sulfurus, he is also completely fine with speculating about mafia-qts, when it fits his agenda. Only, when it is not fitting for him, he devaluates it by saying the person speculating is mafia for knowing too much about the scum-qt.
Also him disregarding the possibility of a serialkiller to devalue votes vs him again lacks critical thinking on his part and ignoring the possibility of a townaction, that negated one kp at night. the chance isn't the biggest, i will agree to that, but there is still a possibility, that something like this happened.

So to sum it up:
SLs behavior looks very anti-town to me + he has double standarts, when it comes to certain behaviours and lacks town-trades like a certain amount of paranoia and critical thinking.
I am totally fine with lynching him today.

##vote sicklucker
Here Bara gives his own ideas as to why SL could be Scum, and this vote also stays. He actually does a decent job here not just sheeping stuff I'm tunneled on SL for this day. But...What happened to this case? He totally drops it, and we've never heard about it again.

I even asked Bara why D3 he was voting Sul. He clearly stated,
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On May 29 2015 20:43 Barakos wrote:
Without any role-stuff I would still be onto sl/disfo, but that's not going to happen today... it's complete bs, to argue about what would happen without roles, when there are roles... you can argue, if they are valid claims or not, but pretending they don't exist and not using this information to your advantage is bad townplay... you need to use everything there is...

i am willing to speculate with you about fake-claims and stuff, because that is the reality the game takes place in, but to speculate, what would be without all the claims is just shutting your eyes and ignoring the major things that happend in the past 30 hours.

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On May 29 2015 20:47 Barakos wrote:
I am not clearing them, but our claimed cop is onto sulfurus so why not do the same? I could of course waste a vote on sl again like last time but I got someone I can sheep atm.

And I am sheeping our claimed cop and not the confirmed mason, because the confirmed mason wasn't making sense with his vote. :p

So he has his own thoughts, but wants to sheep Bats? This seems odd from someone so attached to their own thoughts before. It makes sense if Bara is GF though, he wants to keep people thinking he's town and supports Bats to support his checks.

Now D4 again, we see Bara isn't targeting SL, why? He said D3 he still thinks he's scum. I'm wondering if this post had anything to do with it.
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On May 30 2015 06:01 sicklucker wrote:
Your green check is garbage because there a gf in the game like 90%+ of the time and barkos is 95%+ town

Did he see SL town reading him and not want to piss him off? That's the only thing that makes sense to me.

I find Bara pretty scummy here, his votes and cases especially. I also know I'm not the only one, plots RB'd Bara N2 because he saw similarities in Bara's play this game to a scum game of his. I don't like meta reads, but Bara has been a little too sensible when talking to people and interacting. Yet his cases tend to fall flat, like he's not putting in the same effort.

So yea, Bara is a good lynch today.



oh your def tunneled. tunneled has nothing to do if your right or wrong. Its when you ignore the rest of the game and dont think of other possiblitys hats what your doing here. If no one votes with you (they wont) who do you vote between me/bunnies/disinfo/bf Because you only have 3 hours to figure that out
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 01 2015 17:32 GMT
#2224
On June 02 2015 02:30 Tictock wrote:
@ SL

I really want to know why you townread Bara and plots so easily.

It had better not be because of RB and Cop check stuff...

If you can't give decent reasons why someone is town without relying on Roles I question your ability to play this game...


I gave my reasons . They may change but not today. Get mad about it were not lynching those two today
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 01 2015 17:36 GMT
#2228
Ya i do i Figured out the mafia team im pretty sure. Gonna wait an hour and double check my work
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 01 2015 17:41 GMT
#2230
common sense
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 01 2015 17:43 GMT
#2233
Like im not considering that world till tomorrow if im wrong . Its like best newbie award caliber stuff and pretty unlikely. And there partners would be easy to figure out
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 01 2015 18:05 GMT
#2238
Oh heres my case on whos mafia. We know scott is mafia this is key evidence

may23 11:16 I vote scott immediately after bats follows me

On May 23 2015 20:16 sicklucker wrote:
##unvote ##vote scott

Ya whatever. On a quick reread disinfo filter is not really bad. No way we cant kill scott here. I think a policy lynch is fine I have no high percentage flips in my mind


On May 23 2015 20:17 batsnacks wrote:
##unvote
##vote scott


Ya whatever.


Before we voted the vote count was tied 3-3 between disinfo and scott. After its 5-3 for scott

On May 23 2015 20:22 -Celestial- wrote:
~ Vote Count ~

scott31337 (5) : Rels, batsnacks (X), Tictock, Breshke, sicklucker, batsnacks
disformation (3) : Barakos, Breshke (X), 27ninjabunnies, plotspot
plotspot (1) : Bill Murray, Tictock (X)
Sulfurus (1) : disformation
27ninjabunnies (0) : Bill Murray (X)
batsnacks (0) : sicklucker (X)
Bill Murray (0) : Tictock (X), Sulfurus (X), Rels (X), boxerfred (X)
boxerfred (0) : Rels (X)
Breshke (0) : Sulfurus (X)
sicklucker (0) : Breshke (X), batsnacks (X), Bill Murray (X), batsnacks (X)

Not voting (3) : boxerfred, scott31337, Sulfurus

Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched!
The cycle will end at Saturday, May 23 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), less than 11 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in this thread.

If you see any vote out of place, holler at us and we will look into it.


30 minutes after disinfo pops in thread. 4 minutes after that boxerfred pops in thread and votes scott.
Soon after that disinfo who was not voting for survival but was pushing sulf puts the last vote on scott.

On May 23 2015 21:41 boxerfred wrote:
Okay. So ##vote scott31337 it is. I'll try to chime in before EOD to check if he posted something, however, I won't have the time to post for the next 6-8 hours. gonna be close.



On May 24 2015 01:04 disformation wrote:
EBWOP:
nearly forgot...
##unvote
##vote scott31337


So after me and bats voted scott and sealed the deal that he was getting lynch. two people I know to be town we have two people who are still alive cast useless votes on him after the lynch is determined. Almost as if they were keeping there options open so they didnt have to lynch a mafia team mate.

On May 24 2015 05:02 cakepie wrote:
~ Vote Count ~

scott31337 (6) : Rels, batsnacks (X), Tictock (X), Breshke, sicklucker, batsnacks, boxerfred, disformation
disformation (3) : Barakos, Breshke (X), 27ninjabunnies, plotspot
plotspot (1) : Bill Murray, Tictock (X)
27ninjabunnies (1) : Bill Murray (X), Tictock
batsnacks (0) : sicklucker (X)
Bill Murray (0) : Tictock (X), Sulfurus (X), Rels (X), boxerfred (X)
boxerfred (0) : Rels (X)
Breshke (0) : Sulfurus (X)
sicklucker (0) : Breshke (X), batsnacks (X), Bill Murray (X), batsnacks (X)
Sulfurus (0) : disformation (X)

Not voting (2) : scott31337, Sulfurus

Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched!
The cycle will end at Saturday, May 23 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). That's like 2 hours from this post, y'all!
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in this thread.

If you see any vote out of place, holler at us and we will look into it.


So they voted together at about the same time after scott was already set to be lynched. Now they are both alive as 2 of the 3 potential mafia left in my opinion. I think this is too big of a coincidence and often the simplest answers are the most obvious. I will be voting one of them and i hope you will be too.

I would love to hear cases on both them individual incase im wrong .
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 01 2015 18:08 GMT
#2242
Because I have evidence. I thought you would be happy bunnies
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 01 2015 18:12 GMT
#2244
On June 02 2015 03:07 Tictock wrote:
Thats it SL?

They voted after you D1?

And then you ask us to proved cases on them?

Are you retarded, lazy, or just such an egomaniac your all 3 and don't know it?


I just solved the game for you. see you post game
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 01 2015 18:16 GMT
#2247
disin/bf get me lynched today and you win the game thats your only play
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 01 2015 18:22 GMT
#2254
On June 02 2015 03:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So you think that both mafia jumped on the bw for Scott?

I mentioned atleast one mafia could have been on the scott vote, and if im not mistaken didn't you say that its unlikely?

Why does it seem like you are just trying to get a mislynch some where?


If I needed a "mislynch" why would I have to work for it? boxerfreds already getting lynched so why would I bring this up now. I was about to vote you before I saw this connection
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 01 2015 18:26 GMT
#2257
My thought process is everyone but you and those two are town. And those two voted together at the same time as a mafia would vote. Its very simple but I dont need alot when I already narrowed it down to 3 people .Simply answers simple people
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 01 2015 18:35 GMT
#2266
On June 02 2015 03:31 disformation wrote:
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On June 02 2015 03:22 sicklucker wrote:
On June 02 2015 03:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So you think that both mafia jumped on the bw for Scott?

I mentioned atleast one mafia could have been on the scott vote, and if im not mistaken didn't you say that its unlikely?

Why does it seem like you are just trying to get a mislynch some where?


If I needed a "mislynch" why would I have to work for it? boxerfreds already getting lynched so why would I bring this up now. I was about to vote you before I saw this connection


I am a bit tired, so correct me if I am failing at reading...
but are you calling boxerfred a misslynch by implication here? I though boxerfred and me were supposed to be mafia not misslynches?

Will be really back after dinner, so brb.


no bunnies is and im being sarcastic
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 18:48 GMT
#2269
i am definitely ignoring you
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 19:16 GMT
#2275
Its possible. Im much more happy killing boxer today. Hes not even here or said anything of content all day
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 20:21 GMT
#2293
On June 02 2015 04:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Actually you know what.

Do something

##Unvote
##Vote: Barakos


ok now i want to vote you again
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 20:22 GMT
#2294
On June 02 2015 05:07 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 04:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 02 2015 04:51 Barakos wrote:
I'm semi-around, will look into the thread from time to time... Don't expect me to react on the case on me, I said, I wouldn't fight getting lynched, since I almost got the feeling, town can't be saved unless tictock is brought off of his stupid case, so getting lynched is kinda my wincondition here... sad but true.

I am also completely frustrated with this game, since I don't see town winning with tictock tunneling and the only way to stop this tunnel is me dieing. (Or plots, but we can't have plots die, so rather me.)


This makes me want to vote you. Like, you aren't even trying to find mafia. Why?

I found mafia already. I'm constantly voting on you since D2, noone even cares. It's all about finding out who's with you, and I say it's dis or sl. Said that multiple times. Noone's listening, keke, vote me, town still wins if there's a mislynch today.


if your town its dis/bunnies so maybe ill just vote with you
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 20:23 GMT
#2295
I kind of want to lynch disinfo tbh. Hes with both bunnies and bf. So its the safe play anyone else down?
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 20:25 GMT
#2296
hum plot didnt vote yet. If he fails to vote and gets modkilled were in lylo.

Ya we have to vote disinfo like its the only mathematical play.
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 20:27 GMT
#2297
barakos if your around can you sheep me plz before you go? Town can lose to today its a possibility we have to consider.
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 20:29 GMT
#2300
I have explained this many times.I am town. Plots is town.Barakos is town. Tictoc is town.

That leaves 3.
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 20:30 GMT
#2302
and bf is coming out and saying the other two is mafia. This means alot to me because untill now you guys just went in circles and this makes bf the most likely town from this interaction.
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 20:31 GMT
#2303
hum plots were are you bro
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June 01 2015 20:32 GMT
#2305
On June 02 2015 05:29 27ninjabunnies wrote:
And i may just lynch barakos for being dumb.

Im trying to put pressure on him so hhe will actually do something.


Thats something a mafia would say. You yourself have pushed the notif hes probably town for being roleblocked and green checked
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 20:33 GMT
#2306
On June 02 2015 05:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Well i dont know you are town. I dont have that information. You could very well be mafia.

So take it from my perspective.
Im town
Ticktock is town

That's all I have.

Plots can be fakeclaiming.
Barakos can be fake claiming being blocked.

We dont know.

So help me try and figure out who is mafia if you are actually town.


but we will have so much information on plots and barakos tormorow from the night actions. Even if you dont think there town you should be lynching from the rest
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 20:34 GMT
#2307
How screwed would we be right now if theres 3 mafia. They would totally be owning us because we never considered it (but dont too late now)
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 20:35 GMT
#2309
as it stands now im switching my vote to ninja bunnies to save barakos
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June 01 2015 20:39 GMT
#2314
oh my god that self preservation by bunnies
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 20:40 GMT
#2315
##unvote gonna let mafia squirm a bit more before I make my final decision
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 20:45 GMT
#2317
oh she didnt even bold it. Thats so sick if she doesint come back esp if shes town and im forced to vote her because of it.
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 20:54 GMT
#2320
hi plots where you at
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 20:59 GMT
#2322
thats fine. as long as the person you want lynched is receiving votes currently
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 21:02 GMT
#2325
##vote disinfo

acualy just so i dont get modkilled if i forget in this dota game!
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 21:43 GMT
#2340
im going afk for 30 minutes lol. not like alots happening im here now till deadline
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 21:44 GMT
#2342
bunnies disinfo is the scum team it seems
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 21:45 GMT
#2343
##unvote ##vote 27ninjabunnies
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 21:46 GMT
#2345
bunnies I have contributed a shit ton. Trying to say I have not is a scum claim
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 21:46 GMT
#2346
bf i said so a few pages ago
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 21:47 GMT
#2348
bunnies/disinfo voting together on bf and now me. Like its gg
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 21:48 GMT
#2350
if theres a town in the two of them its disinfo tho so im loving the vote
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 21:50 GMT
#2352
Your not the blocker tho. Like if you vote me I asure you town losses the game
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 21:52 GMT
#2356
Heres why im always town if you guys are thinking about doing somethnig dumb. I have no partner.

Bunnies is voting me. Disinfo is voting me. Bf is considering voting me. If im mafia one of them is my partner because everyone else is town
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 21:55 GMT
#2361
On June 02 2015 06:53 27ninjabunnies wrote:
IF YOU VOTE ME YOU ARE VOTING A GREENCHECK!

AE YOU DUMB!


then you shouldnt have made the wagon vs the top onconfirmed town and yourself how convient
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 21:57 GMT
#2368
it took us awile but were finally lynching this obv scum who mostly gave up after scott died. After scott died my activity went up to 20 pages i would be demotivated as hell
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 21:58 GMT
#2370
On June 02 2015 06:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 06:55 sicklucker wrote:
On June 02 2015 06:53 27ninjabunnies wrote:
IF YOU VOTE ME YOU ARE VOTING A GREENCHECK!

AE YOU DUMB!


then you shouldnt have made the wagon vs the top onconfirmed town and yourself how convient


You arent even confirmed?! what?!


i said im the top town of the unconfirmed learn to read.

plots barkos and tictoc all had me as town
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 22:30 GMT
#2380
and here i was expecting a concede. Well we still have auto. But will you guys follow my plan?
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 22:33 GMT
#2386
block 1 of them. kill the other? easy game? your allowed to concede fyi
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 23:07 GMT
#2400
i was gonna say fred is town for his last post where he voted me. but since hes a newb he might have thought a tied vote ment something so im not sure now. Dont matter kill them both
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 23:08 GMT
#2401
boxer if you dont see why im town... then you get to die first
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 23:14 GMT
#2403
if me and bunniers were mafia together the vote would be between bunnies/boxer
it was me and bunnies fighting that made it between me and bunnies

anyway this games over wont be posting much see you post ggame
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 23:19 GMT
#2404
and I pushed bunnies all game (bats saved her d2 and d3) and I hammered scott.

I killed two mafia like im sure the mafia has to get me lynched to win. but if you guys humor him and put scum on me ill lose my damn mind
sicklucker
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June 01 2015 23:22 GMT
#2405
there was two mafia on me. bunnies was in tryhaard mode
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 00:27 GMT
#2409
oh ya plots say who you roleblock since your dying 100% now
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 00:29 GMT
#2410
anyworld where plots/barkos are mafia is pretty much impossible now since they both voted bunnies over me. If tictock still pushes that world we could totally spite lynch him now for fun since we cant lose
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 01:21 GMT
#2412
ya I get it plots no shit. apparently mafia doesint because they didnt concede yet
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 10:05 GMT
#2424
On June 02 2015 16:35 Tictock wrote:
My mind keeps drifting back to this point in the game tonight.

Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 14:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On June 01 2015 12:49 Tictock wrote:
@27nb

I was, but stopped when people didn't want to listen to my ideas. Clearly town prefers to have no plan, than a solid case. Oh and good luck with plots, he's a dodgy one.

I'd like to lynch mafia, so even though my case is on plots RB role being fake, I'm fine going with Bara first. Idk why people want to keep the worst Town RB in history around, but w/e.

##Unvote

##Vote: Barakos


They both have


Why Bara?

He's a greencheck


27nb stayed FAR away from my theories when I was tunneled on plots, yet when I switch to Bara she is all over pushing my case.

If both plots and Bara were town, wouldn't she have supported my WHOLE case? Instead she is only willing to talk to me about it when I suggest Bara as a target over plots.

Call me tunneled if you want, but I will never stop asking questions. I don't believe this game ever has "auto-lynch" conditions (maybe in some rare cases when you get the right combo of blue roles), I'd much rather keep thinking than be lazy and try and find ways to play the game without reasoning. I mean... whats the point of the game if not to challenge our thinking?



na your case is just so wild that she would look scummy for supporting it . (and she kind of did to some extent)
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 10:05 GMT
#2425
On June 02 2015 16:40 Tictock wrote:
In that vein of thought.

Anyone care to share their current thoughts on Dis and BF? I'm not seeing scum on them, but my own thinking is clearly biased.

SL as always plays that fine line between shitty town with bad ideas and scum pushing bad ideas. Honestly I don't think my views on him will ever change at this point, even beyond the scope of this one game ...


not even after I killed two mafia...?
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 10:08 GMT
#2427
On June 02 2015 18:49 boxerfred wrote:
SL, why do you get so hard on me now? In case you're wondering if I am bunnies potential scum ally, here you go:

D2: I voted bunnies. My vote would have gotten her lynched (it gave her the majority at this point). Bats switched.
D3: I voted bunnies. My vote would help kill a scum member. I didn't switch although the claimed cop gave me an easy excuse to switch (if I was scum a member that is). Disinformation switched though, claiming he "flipped a coin".
D4: I unvote bunnies, making no difference at all, not even trying to (since it was literally a last minute change).

Barakos is a green check, Tictocks. Only case where he'd be scum would be in a GF + GF + RB scenario.
However, you tryharding really makes me reconsider the idea of having two masons by now. I PM'ed the host, it's possible there's only one mason is.

I want Plots to RB me this night. If nothing happens, boom I'm scum. If someone dies, oh look I'm not scum and we can go for auto in between SL and Disinformation. If it turns out that there is only one mason in (in breshke), well fuck. But tbh I don't think so. I really want to be confirmed as town. It's between Disinfo and SL (it's not like I said this on D2 and D3).




I have always said disinfo would be bunnies likely partner. I just thought you were with disinfo ;p
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 18:36 GMT
#2460
bunnies def voted her partner shes not terrible. But she probably didnt put any serious presure on him that could have got him killed because her only chance is for her partner to carry the game because everyone thought she was scum.

ie not me
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 18:38 GMT
#2461
On June 03 2015 03:30 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 03:26 disformation wrote:
well. bunnies voted me day1 of a constructed connection between boxer and me. boxerfred and sicklucker both voted her d2 and d3. though that could have been attempts to bus...


D2 votes could be Bus, your right.

D3... nah 27nb was not really the top target. Scum has no reason to bus their partners unless it is highly likely that they are getting lynched that day already.

You are right though, the way she targeted you over BF D1 when she "reads" an association between you two is odd. The same kinda odd how she supported my ideas on plots yet never voted him, but was totally willing to jump on Bara.


scum are more likely to vote there partners when they are not gonna get lynched so its harder to connect them if one dies.

mafia 101 right there
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 18:41 GMT
#2462
On June 03 2015 03:26 disformation wrote:
well. bunnies voted me day1 of a constructed connection between boxer and me. boxerfred and sicklucker both voted her d2 and d3. though that could have been attempts to bus...


Right her partner could have bused. But when it came to crunch time whos vote did bunnies and her partner land on? Me

This is who voted me bunnies/bf/you

Thisis who could be mafia bunnies/bs/you.

In had been saying that for like 2 days.

Im the most active player.
I been right about everything

Tictock im a really easy read your just stubborn...
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 19:01 GMT
#2465
On June 03 2015 03:45 Tictock wrote:
Only you think that SL...
Show nested quote +
Tictock im a really easy read your just stubborn...


Why else would Bats and Bre pressure you so much D1 to get decent reads on you?


they both thought I was town. Plots thinks im town. Bara thinks im town.Everyone using critical thinking thinks im town

It doesint matter that bf/disinfo dont read me because one of them is mafia and the other only has two potential players to lynch from so has to suspect me by default.
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 19:02 GMT
#2466
On June 03 2015 03:48 Tictock wrote:
Like I'm just really tired of hearing how this whole game revolves around SL.

How you state, "this is so obviously true" In a NEWBIE game where there WILL be people to whom it is Not obvious.

You really contribute little to nothing in these games.


This whole game does revolve around me currently stop being arrogant. If we dont lynch me town wins. So as a good town player its my job to make this entire game about me
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 19:10 GMT
#2468
it was intentional
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 20:02 GMT
#2469
This is a Warning!

Please put some effort into your posts. One word replies and other low content posts are not appreciated here.

zzz


Thanks in advance for your cooperation,
Sn0_Man

(Do not reply to this message. No one will receive it.)

LOL
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 20:22 GMT
#2470
That was kinda the wrong thred
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June 02 2015 20:58 GMT
#2472
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June 02 2015 20:59 GMT
#2473
plots tell us who your roleblocking man plz. your 100% dying tonight we need a confirmed town to have auto
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 21:00 GMT
#2474
On June 03 2015 02:09 plotspot wrote:
I'm going to block BF tonight then, since Barakos and Tictock both read him scum, I can clear him if he is not. If anything goes wrong just refer to my flow chart and replace Dis with BF.


oh ok.

bf is town tho man. hes still trying even after this post. If your around block disinfo or barakos
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 21:09 GMT
#2477
On June 03 2015 06:05 Barakos wrote:
The block is br, disfo or sl...

blocking bf is completely fine here.


me is fine as well obv im biased. I just forgot your green checked for a moment there. Not something I would do as mafia.

Bf is town im pretty sure by his interaction here. So mafia is disinfo he seems stubborn enough to not concede
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 21:13 GMT
#2479
why?
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 21:27 GMT
#2483
Fair enough but do you take one momentary lapse of memory over my whole game? ill be really pissed if we lynch me even tho we still win if we do
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 21:37 GMT
#2487
Barakos do you really think me and bunnies double bus each other when theres a power role in the game that can confirm a town and give town auto. DO you really think id do that? No I wouldnt only a newbie would do that because it defeats their win condition. Unless im a shit tier mafia player im confirmed town.

Im not Im like the only nomination this year on team liquid for the best mafia play award. I WOULD NOT BE IN THIS SITUATION IF I WAS MAFIA AND IF I DID I WOULD CONCEDE LOL k
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 21:38 GMT
#2488
Like I can not be bunnies partner when she flipped I can explain why I can never be her partner do you have 5 minutes? like its very simple logic ok here i go
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 21:40 GMT
#2489
Ok so lets asume im mafia right. That means theres a town roleblocker in the game.

Why do I bus my partner. If theres a roleblocker in the game and theres only 1 mafia left then when you roleblock anyone you get a 100% real copcheck. Thats terrible if im mafia my only play is to save my partner.

By killing bunnies it also confirms you as town.

LIKE IT MAKES NO SENSE FOR ME TO BUS BUNNIES.

The second bunnies died the game was over because it confirms two people as town in 1 go. You and whoever plots checks tonight.

I would never let town have two confirmed towns EVER EVER EVER omfg
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 21:42 GMT
#2490
Like do you understand what im saying? mafias only play yesterday was to protect bunnies. All three of them voted me. Im confirmed town because mafia has no way to win if bunnies dies since it confirms you and gives town auto.

If anyone lynches me this game I will policy lynch you in ever game Im ever in with you. Because I really am confirmed town here.

like 100% confirmed its not even close
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 21:46 GMT
#2491
Like barakos you seemed like a smart dude. I dont expect tictock to understand. But you can see this logic right?

Bunnies dying secures town the win because not only does it lynch a mafia but it confirms you. At the same time making plots roleblocks the same as a cop check. Bunnies can never die if mafia wants to win.

Whoever bunnies partner is was protecting her. This game is over
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 22:10 GMT
#2504
plots you freakin donkey.. I was roleblocked.
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 22:12 GMT
#2506
So im confused didnt expect this to happen. Disinfo claimed not roleblocked does this make him more or less likely mafia
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 22:13 GMT
#2507
Wasting your roleblock on me was so stupid plots tho man. I was already confirmed
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June 02 2015 22:15 GMT
#2510
I doubt the mafia is gonna cc. There already mathematically elimated I doubt this changes anything. There just a stubborn newb dragging this out
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June 02 2015 22:16 GMT
#2511
Also if i was mafia and bf its much easier to get disinfo lynched .So I dont expect a cc from him
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 22:17 GMT
#2513
unless I piss him off which im trying to do lol I want this game over
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 22:24 GMT
#2517
no your awful for thinking that. im a good mafia player I dont troll newbie games when I already lost
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 22:57 GMT
#2532
lol im not even dealing with this now. Boxerfred what your doing here is way out of line. your just trying to lynch me here for stats. If I didnt have a huge streak of never getting mislynched I would just ignore it but ill come back later to own you and teach you a lesson
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 23:54 GMT
#2541
Yes i have a streak. that was not a lynch that was a mayor vote and jat hates my guts. It was decided by one person not a town.

##vote boxerfred

debating if I even try here. Like the logic is there its a confirmed town vs a newb who refuses to concede even tho he lost.

Like fuck you guys
sicklucker
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June 02 2015 23:57 GMT
#2542
Like barakos are you this dumb? Like how sick would it be if theres really two mafia left. like holy fuck I think there might be thats the only way this makes any sense
sicklucker
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June 03 2015 00:01 GMT
#2543
but then your another gf. wth screw this.

I have given complete logic as to why im confirmed town and never partnered with bunnies. Bf is clearly salty I killed his two mafia team mates and is trying to swag on me even tho he cant win.

All you need to know is that I would have conceded. I would not bm bf in a newbie game and swag on him like this in a game where everyones confirmed town but him and me.

Thats all you need to know as a veteran of this site I would not embarras myself by wasting 24 hours to lynch a newbie for no reason.
sicklucker
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June 03 2015 00:17 GMT
#2544
On June 03 2015 08:08 disformation wrote:
So. We lynch boxerfred and sicklucker in any order and town wins?
I am down.
Let's watch sicklucker explode.

##vote sicklucker


what can i do to get you to change your vote? i want this game to end asap
sicklucker
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June 03 2015 00:18 GMT
#2546
THANK YOU I LOVE YOU

like its not even about my streak which no one cares about. Im just really insulted hes trying this
sicklucker
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June 03 2015 00:20 GMT
#2548
disinfo this is your chance potentially hammer a mafia and redeem yourself!
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June 03 2015 00:23 GMT
#2550
ya that would be sick and ive thought about it. I would give him the win tho
sicklucker
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June 03 2015 00:51 GMT
#2553
I have given you sound proof logic of how I can not be with bunnie. Im not sure if your stupid ignoring it tunnel idk. But its there should i spam it again?
sicklucker
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June 03 2015 00:55 GMT
#2555
On June 03 2015 09:37 Tictock wrote:
Idk I feel like SL is floundering hard here. Usually when he's under pressure he starts being reasonable, but this looks like he's starting to reach hard to me.

Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 08:57 sicklucker wrote:
Like barakos are you this dumb? Like how sick would it be if theres really two mafia left. like holy fuck I think there might be thats the only way this makes any sense


Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 09:01 sicklucker wrote:
but then your another gf. wth screw this.

I have given complete logic as to why im confirmed town and never partnered with bunnies. Bf is clearly salty I killed his two mafia team mates and is trying to swag on me even tho he cant win.

All you need to know is that I would have conceded. I would not bm bf in a newbie game and swag on him like this in a game where everyones confirmed town but him and me.

Thats all you need to know as a veteran of this site I would not embarras myself by wasting 24 hours to lynch a newbie for no reason.


As to the bolded statement.

SL the only reason I'm still here is because I'm truely hoping you DON'T represent this community. Thankfully with all my talking with Bre before and stuff from last game I know your not typical here.

However if I do give you a fair shake and read your post. Wouldn't Dis be likely scum? He's the only one not being scummed atm. If he is mafia he is sitting pretty, no way does he consider conceding right now.


no its not dis he would not be the only vote in my favor. Hes a solo mafia being a unmannered child
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 00:57 GMT
#2556
Its so obv with the drama im making that im the town here if you cant see that this game is not for you.

Regardless who it is town wins so can we win today and not tomorrow plz?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 00:58 GMT
#2557
like bf what do you want from me? I admit you could maybe get me lynched here. can you just end the game plz?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 02:16 GMT
#2564
On June 03 2015 10:31 disformation wrote:
One last thing... I just remembered this gem:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 19:34 boxerfred wrote:
On May 22 2015 19:28 Rels wrote:
On May 22 2015 19:07 boxerfred wrote:
On May 22 2015 17:12 Rels wrote:
As for know I will vote for the AFK until he post something. Then I'll vote for the people I don't like, I'll probably sheep Sulfurus unless he vote someone I don't agree with.

##Vote: boxerfred

Well I'm AFK since I am on an EU schedule. However since I dislike people that vote for me, I'm willing to vote for them. However, I feel like voting randomly / for no reason rather means that someone wants to make a destructive impact to the game which strongly speaks for them being an evildoer. Thus I'd strongly recommend Rels to be checked upon.


You seem pretty defensive for what was just a policy vote until you posted something.

On May 22 2015 19:17 boxerfred wrote:
I have no idea who I should vote for :/


What is your most scum read atm ?

Yeah I hate being voted out in first rounds because it just ruins the game for me. I'm a bad loser.

My most scum read is Bill Murray but it's more indications than bullet proof theories.


Bold font was added by me to highlight stuff.


lol nice find
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 02:16 GMT
#2565
On June 03 2015 10:32 Tictock wrote:
You guys prob prefer me not doing big cases anymore right? I'm kinda burnt out on them and having my own tunnel being shoved in my face with those flips does a lot to calm a man down.

I'm starting to work through BF's filter but am realizing I prob wont have some fantastic analysis at the end of it. I'll try to keep my conclusions short and to the point.


i mean the games over save the effort. Just kill bf first
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 07:37 GMT
#2581
i mean its a bit meh and i regret it. But its in a sitation where he cced me AND the games mathematically over. I get that hes newer and may have thought he had a chance but like everyone in the game is confirmed town like comeon I feel like it was worse then a slow role
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 07:38 GMT
#2582
GG guys was an interesting one
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 07:40 GMT
#2583
Boxers defending bunnies and going for me and disinfo was your only chance since when bunnies flips it confirms everyone. It was your only play so its good that you did it. It was acualy a tie if im not mistaken so you coulda pulled it off if the votes were faster
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 07:54 GMT
#2586
Well thats your opinion. im not blaming bf because that was probably a first time situation for him. but what he did intentionally or not while maybe in the rules of the game is the lowest form of bm there is.

Pming him to stop might be breaking the rules but its not bm. Slow rolling is. My pm was sent to let him know what he was doing and to stop wasting everyones time.

His role was confirmed to me anyway

sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 08:15 GMT
#2592
On June 03 2015 16:59 Breshke wrote:
GG everyone. Thanks to all the hosts and coaches.

SL dude who cares if you get lynched. Be more townie and they will lynch him first or w/e. Who cares about your stats they literally mean nothing. Make it clear to the thread why if they lynch you they lynch BF straight after and they would probs end up lynching you second. You know what you did was wrong don't try to justify it. You obviously didn't do it with bad intentions but you probably knew you weren't meant to so it ain't cool.


its not about stats lol. I said that ingame I felt literraly insulted he did this and I had a bad day. Anyway not talking about that anymore but we can talk about this very good game!
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 08:16 GMT
#2593
And I mean they were lynching bf. He didn't acualy concede untill he lost the majority votes. Its not like my pm had anything to do with it.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 08:23 GMT
#2594
But im acualy amazed you guys were even considering voting me after bunnies flipped mafia. YOu know that confirms me as town right?

Mafia can never bus bunnies in that spot. IF she dies it confirms TWO TOWNS barakos and whoever plots rbs
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 08:35 GMT
#2597
It wasint. And I have like one person I dont get along with and I try to register everygame hes in because it makes it more interesting. Its all for fun grow some skin its the interwebs.

Nothings personal. If a new player takes things personal thats on him and they probably would have quit anyway
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 08:38 GMT
#2599
On June 03 2015 17:34 Barakos wrote:
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On June 03 2015 17:23 sicklucker wrote:
But im acualy amazed you guys were even considering voting me after bunnies flipped mafia. YOu know that confirms me as town right?

Mafia can never bus bunnies in that spot. IF she dies it confirms TWO TOWNS barakos and whoever plots rbs


By that logic, boxer also was confirmed, since the first 3 votes, that sealed bunnies fate (since TT would never unvote me in this position, I think) were bf, plots and me. So unless you vote for yourself, bunnies is pretty much doomed there anyways.

Of course voteswitches can happen and stuff...

It was pretty clear, that mafia fucked up there, the moment boxer cced, because boxer + you were on bunnies.

You have a thing for pointing out things, that don't confirm you and say they do. It's totally annoying and - if this had actually dragged on - would have gotten you my vote.

So - is it likely you make this mistake? - No
Is it more likely boxer makes this mistake? - Probably

Still I would have voted you, basically because you are a pain in the ass to read. I felt that you trolled half the game and every time you started making sense, you also started screaming "look, this is me trying. baby town jesus confirmed."


Huh? bf voted to save bunnies. I voted to kill bunnies. I hammer voted all 3 mafia this game acualy. Mistakes happened you played a really good game up to that point and town sidered. Without you town lost this without a doubt
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 08:42 GMT
#2601
It was bunnies,disinfo,bf that voted me fyi
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 09:12 GMT
#2603
all that matters is where there vote ends tho
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 21:04 GMT
#2633
On June 03 2015 20:39 plotspot wrote:
wow, I wake up to find the game ends? WTF? LOL I wanted to watch how Tictock tunnels on someone else. XD
As soon as I saw I'm dead, I immediately knew this was gonna be interesting between SL and BF. BF should have not CC but push for a lynch between him and dis. With dis dieing he could have hold hit shot on N5 and then mylo it, to maybe push a lynch on SL. But yeah too dangerous, dis is basically town the whole game, SL was believed to be town by both Barakos and Tictock.
I was also interested in seeing what SL would do against the odds. Of course you don't trust me, I was very random in my choices, time and time again I didn't block the person I specified. You have to trust your instincts. Of course I didn't randomize anything, nor via the host nor via anything.
The thing was if I announced blocking SL, BF the way he is could really just kill him, and till the end Tictock still didn't believe me to be Town RB. I didn't want to deal with this any longer on D5, but invented shit about randomizing so mafia would kill me 100%. I trusted we still have Barakos left, my lifeline the whole game, to carry it out to the end. The BF CCed was our victory 100%. I also said in my very last sentence: guy who is blocked should announce, then he gets CC by mafia and the third is town. If BF was really blocked he would have never waited so long, only as mafia you're not sure whether I blocked Dis or SL and then come out and CC.


if he killed me the game would have been over STILL. you rly should have just said and save me a brain annerism
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 21:14 GMT
#2634
ya that 20-40% chance of winning is just wrong. Its like 1%. I mean I like the effort but everyone was confirmed. you woulda had to like keep plots in the game and have you ticktock/plots f3 or something
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2015 21:14 GMT
#2635
0% with the final 5 we had
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 11 2015 21:07 GMT
#2664
Like thanks for hosting cakepie. I tried to avoid talking to you because I dont think bming the host is a great thnig to do. But you just said something that I have to reply too. while were talking you tried to grind in the fact that you warned me not to do things like bf but I pmed you both at the same time because I was clearly pissed

Like I was obviously going through some real shit during this game. So bringing up that day 2 pm I sent you were I was considering leaving as a angle shoot/breaking the rule thing is going to far. I decided not to so its pointless . I dont have to give you my real reasons. If I had decided to replace out I probably would have given you them like I gave them to gb and he instantly replaced me out without dragging my name through the dirt. That was the first game out of 20 that I replaced out of.

I think im dead in that game anyway so ill say that my aunt and grandma died near the beginning and end of this game.
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