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boxerfred
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Rels
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On May 22 2015 19:34 boxerfred wrote: Yeah I hate being voted out in first rounds because it just ruins the game for me. I'm a bad loser. My most scum read is Bill Murray but it's more indications than bullet proof theories. Yeah but it's cool that you voted and explained why. I like your points about masons. True or not, I would have never thought about that. Thanks I'll keep them in mind. | ||
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boxerfred
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Rels
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Rels
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So a question for the both of you: could you read sickluker filter and tell me what you think ? | ||
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Barakos
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His filter consists mostly of one-liners with not that much contend outside of defending himself vs breshkes push, which is kinda expected. The thing in his filter, that looks a bit suspicious is the way he attacked you and me because our posts were 6 minutes apart and yours contained a comment on my post. He just dropped in basically said "you two are mafia together and plan your posts in your qt" and drops out without any form of questions or followup. Didn't like that at all. Especially since he doesn't even directly say "you two are mafia and are making plans together", which would be a valid accusation, someone could track back to him. He does it subtly without commiting to his suspicion and that's kinda putting me of. He'll have to anser to that, once he returns. The other thing is, that he soft-defends bm at several occasions, saying bm is a troll and lynchbait and that's something I agree with.. bm is kind of unreadable for me at the moment, so lynching him at this point would be a coinflip. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
First reason In a few of his posts he either says he's town or gives argument to why someone should read him town. Apparently SL is a good player, so that could be straight up subtile manipulation. It is the tactics from commercials; one can only see something so many times before one starts thinking it's true, not knowing where the thought came by. I'm talking about these posts: + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 07:22 sicklucker wrote: disinfo you gonna correctly read me town again? On May 22 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote: well you should because thats how you read me town On May 22 2015 09:49 sicklucker wrote: town points for not realizing their was a scum qt up for 24 hours like any town should On May 22 2015 11:22 sicklucker wrote: oh I totally took that post out of context hes asking me a qeustion pretty poor writinng . Oh well easy to read me town off that On May 22 2015 11:37 sicklucker wrote: im so town it hurts Second reason On May 22 2015 08:33 Tictock wrote: @Breshke Humm you have a point. He did post an handful of stuff pretty fast and then bounce. Seems to be have just made a weak townread and then the weak towny post about not confusing us newbies. Last game when he was town he never gave a shit about confusing us newbies. Now he's making this post defending newbies and town reading Dis, one of the newbies who was also in the last game with us. This does seem like he's scum motivated. Straigth up this. I read student IX game, and SL was town and didn't give a shit about newbies. Third reason He says that BM is a lynch bait, but says this: On May 22 2015 13:27 sicklucker wrote: bill murray is lynch bait. definition - a guy who always looks scummy and gets lynched not saying dont lynch him but keep that in mind That could be read as "lynch him if you want, when he flips green i'm going to be right". Seems to me like he almost want BM to be lynched without him on the train. That's it. I know SL's reputation of doing weird shit. Still, these reasons seems good to me to pressure him. | ||
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Rels
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On May 22 2015 20:19 Barakos wrote: The thing in his filter, that looks a bit suspicious is the way he attacked you and me because our posts were 6 minutes apart and yours contained a comment on my post. He just dropped in basically said "you two are mafia together and plan your posts in your qt" and drops out without any form of questions or followup. Didn't like that at all. Especially since he doesn't even directly say "you two are mafia and are making plans together", which would be a valid accusation, someone could track back to him. He does it subtly without commiting to his suspicion and that's kinda putting me of. He'll have to anser to that, once he returns. That's exactly what I don't like, he does a lot of things subtily. On May 22 2015 20:19 Barakos wrote: The other thing is, that he soft-defends bm at several occasions, saying bm is a troll and lynchbait and that's something I agree with.. bm is kind of unreadable for me at the moment, so lynching him at this point would be a coinflip. I can totally agree with that argument of BM being a lynchbait. But I don't like the way SL said it. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On May 22 2015 19:57 Rels wrote: I suppose the only players here are boxerfred and Barakos. So a question for the both of you: could you read sickluker filter and tell me what you think ? tbh I have no idea about how he's scum or town after reading his filter. didn't understand the qt pregame stuff (yet, didn't have time to dive in deep). Looks kinda random however. He's really going hardcore down the "I'm a townie" road, making himself the prime target for Cop and Scum, depending on his actual role (if he's really a townie, scum will attack him, however, the cop might check him just to make sure. that would imply ofc that he is not the cop :D). Hm. I wouldn't say that his posts necessarily point to scum direction. I have a feeling (not proven though) that he might have gotten an unimportant town role without any night actions. Some people tend to spam and troll if they get a role that does not have any "cool" night-action purpose and since he has that reputation, I'd go with that thought. Wouldn't cast my vote to lynch him yet. | ||
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disformation
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On May 22 2015 11:34 Sulfurus wrote: I also scum read Murray due to his weak and untrue accusation against Dis in post #191 which made me think Sick is town since he tried Bandwagoning on him but he has since rescinded his vote. Which made me think "what did BM accuse me of? And when I looked at #191: On May 22 2015 10:25 Bill Murray wrote: Disinformation the game so far has been people reacting to a post batsnacks has , premade, Sicklucker is someone I want to see more from The scum qt thing I agree with because I didn't realize it would have been open either considering town couldn't talk ...... Accusation where? There is also nothing else regarding me in his filter. On May 22 2015 13:07 Sulfurus wrote: Unvote Breshke ##Vote: Bill Murray I am actually astonished at how Murray can make so many posts with out providing anything of value on top of the fact that he has pushed every one of his agenda's in a scummy manner. So... @Sulfurus: Can you point out what you mean with accusation? If this was accusation thing was a mistake, how does that change your view on BM? Does his filter still look scummy enough to lynch him? | ||
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Tictock
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Rels looks pretty town. I like that he is keeping some pressure on SL and that he picked up on my strongest scum read on SL. So far I'm not sure I like boxerfred. He's definitely giving off that newbie vibe but I really don't like how he is going about his reads atm. I mean he starts off giving us 2 posts about how he doesn't know what to take seriously and that he doesn't know who to vote for. Then this pile of WIFOM leads him to a vote? On May 22 2015 19:32 boxerfred wrote: Barakos going the coach way :D I was just starting to ask my coach about that. However, thus far I think I'll go for the guy who voted 27ninjabunnies (which would be BM) since he did not really have a clue and just started with an accusation. That kinda points to the SK role or even a scum role. Can't really tell. However, since Breshke and batsnacks, as well as BM and tictock cast their votes for the same person, they might be somehow linked to each other in their roles, implying they are either scum or masons. Since a mason wouldn't have to cast his vote in a seemingly random/trolly kind of way, I'm going for Bill Murray. Especially since he is no newbie, so I can safely assume he didn't troll but instead made a random vote on purpose. So here we go: ##Vote Bill Murray @BF Your looking too hard for associations and possible role tells before we have any solid (such as flip) info. Based on post content alone, and not possible interactions, who would you read as scum? | ||
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Tictock
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@Dis, what do you make of Barakos' stance against you? | ||
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Rels
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+ Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 16:49 Barakos wrote: Morning everyone! I'm here now and almost done to catching up. First thoughts: I like breschke pushing/tunneling sl, to prevent him from being lazy. Makes breschke look town in my eyes. What I didn't like was disformations filter. All he has done so far is posting fluff and agreeing to people but not contributing in any form, except a very weak and non-commiting push on bm for lurking. And then there are these 2 posts: In the bolded parts, he explains what good townplay should look like, and what he would like to have done. And that is all he does... he explains and doesn't follow up with anything, that would be good townplay... he just shows, that he knows, what town should do but does actually nothing. But since he shows, that he knows, what good townplay looks like, he is still "looking good" and tries to give the impression, that he is town but just hasn't had the opportunity to really do stuff. So for now my vote is on him. ##vote disformation On May 22 2015 17:09 Breshke wrote: Hey! I knew i remembered your name my first game was your first game barakos but lets not remember that game. You raise a good point. Looking through his filter he doesn't seem to draw conclusions from stuff like in your last quote he says a bunch of stuff about SL but doesn't really draw a conclusion from any of it. I do kind of like the reason he gave for the ticktock townread while the reason doesn't hold weight with me I think it is a good reason to town-read someone. It is good enough for me to change my vote though ##Unvote ##Vote disformation (totally thought his name was disinformation) I also kind of don't like this When scott leaves right after it after having only one other post. Feels scummy | ||
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disformation
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On May 22 2015 21:40 Tictock wrote: Also disappointing Batsnacks hasn't reappeared since the start of the game... @Dis, what do you make of Barakos' stance against you? Hmm... His main point is that I didn't give many conclusions and that I gave him the vibe of trying to look good. I think the only real read I gave was my town read on you. So yeah he is totally right. :D To be fair I don't think there was that much to conclude on yesterday. sicklucker I can see either mafia or town agenda in a lot of posts. But he is trying a lot harder than last game. Breshke had a weird tunnel on sicklucker, but his motivation sounded town to me. Who I am currently suspicious of is bunnies. I will make a short post on bunnies and explain why soonish. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
So I think he will be glad to read your case on bunnies when you make it. | ||
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disformation
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- He is trying harder than last game. Not sure if that is a mafia or town tell with him. - Mostly looks like last game, where he was town. - A few posts that are a bit odd. E.g.: On May 22 2015 07:22 sicklucker wrote: disinfo you gonna correctly read me town again? Could be town: trying to get a reaction from me. Could be mafia: trying to pocket me, by praising me and pressing how townie he is. Last game I couldn't read the guy at all D1. And D2 he did stuff which made it a lot easier to do so. So I currently wouldn't lynch him, but look really hard at his D2 and see if it lines up with last game and D1 (looking for inconsistencies). | ||
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plotspot
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plotspot
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Rels
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List of people I would agree to lynch atm, in order: BM plotspot scott SL 27nb batsnacks | ||
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disformation
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On May 22 2015 07:07 27ninjabunnies wrote: EBWOP: Scum #Vote: Sicklucker Starts with randomly voting sicklucker. kay. Pretty NAI imo. On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote: Glad we can agree on something. Though I am curious, why do you think he is mafia? I saw something about dumbtelling, but I am unsure exactly what the dumbtell was on. Agrees with Breshke. Not seeing why. Apparently even Bunnies was not sure why they are agreeing. Not being sure about the dumbtell is a sign of not reading properly. Which I don't like either. On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote: I will neither confirm nor deny I am a role. I'll leave that up for mafia to decide. However, I could possibly be down for a breshke lynch if we don't lynch you today. I see a bus in the midst. From the same post as last quote. First agrees with Breshke and then is like "nah, let us lynch you". Because "I see a bus"? On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote: Everyone who is considered a newbie, answer this: What is the most important thing you think has happened in the game so far? I like this question. But it is a really general question. Not sure if it would be hard for mafia to ask stuff like this. On May 22 2015 11:09 27ninjabunnies wrote: Give me substance BM! I know you can do it! I agree, but again this is a question Mafia could also have asked easily. On May 22 2015 11:43 27ninjabunnies wrote: Sulfurus top town newbie read. Not lynching for entire game. Or maybe atleast 2 days Then this. Can't see how Sulfurus can be seen as more townie than ticktoc of that one post... that had a strange thing in it (the accusation thing I explained earlier)? Pocket attempt? Was the question a setup for Sulfurus they agreed on in their QT? Me no like. On May 22 2015 12:44 27ninjabunnies wrote: This is a great question! + Show Spoiler + And you fell right into my reaction trap. Breshke, what do YOU think of this?+ Show Spoiler + When asked about stuff that I also pointed out the reaction is total deflection and trying to laugh it of. Me no like. In my book bunnies is not looking good at all. Totally leaning scum. I need to look at a few other ppl, but I guess I am willing to vote on bunnies as of now. | ||
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