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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
May 24 2015 06:45 GMT
#661
Already asked dude, though I'd also like to know your thoughts on 27nb and BM.

Off to play games, bbl.
I can take that responsibility.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 24 2015 06:47 GMT
#662
On May 24 2015 15:34 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 08:11 Rels wrote:
On May 24 2015 08:03 disformation wrote:
Well. 1/3 mafia down.


Do we have confirmation it is 3 mafia ?
I mean, that's what I assume too, but is it written anywhere ?


yes its going to always be 3 mafia in 13 player format but if theirs a sk then 2? im not getting many mafia reads so thats possible.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia

You were in this game SL and i kno you remember it because its one of the ones you love to mention so much because its the first one i got vig shot in. It had 3 mafia and an SK in a 13 player setup.

Also there as no hammer scott as clearly going to get lynched.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 24 2015 06:52 GMT
#663
that game breske? I remember bunnies shot you n1 as mafia that was funny. then you got veg shot the next time or 2 time you were mafia ^^

no hammer scott was an easy p lynch but i clearly put it over the top
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 24 2015 07:02 GMT
#664
On May 24 2015 15:52 sicklucker wrote:
that game breske? I remember bunnies shot you n1 as mafia that was funny. then you got veg shot the next time or 2 time you were mafia ^^

no hammer scott was an easy p lynch but i clearly put it over the top


Yes and im showing it to you ebcause it has 3 mafia and an SK.

Can you stop with this fake confidence you didn't push it over the top you were searching for other lynches.

Explain your read on rels
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 24 2015 07:05 GMT
#665
On May 24 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 11:50 sicklucker wrote:
i think disinfo could be scum


Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
one of bunnies or disinfo are scum

probably disinfo


Has a shitty push on disinfo doesn't explain anything or put any effort into getting him lynched just faking suspicion to seem town.

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 20:16 sicklucker wrote:
##unvote ##vote scott

Ya whatever. On a quick reread disinfo filter is not really bad. No way we cant kill scott here. I think a policy lynch is fine I have no high percentage flips in my mind


Backs of his shitty read again with no reasoning when wagon seems to be going against his partner. Starts bussing to get towncred.

Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin


Tries to push rels AGAIN with no reasoning. Does not put any effort into getting rels lynched instead of scott even though scott is just a policy lynch for him and rels he genuinely thinks is scum.

SL is not trying to work out the game he mainly just posts to post. Probably started bussing his partner then tried to see if he could start a different wagon. When noone started biting he just drops it.

[b]We are lynching SL tomorrow[b].


[image loading]
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 24 2015 07:16 GMT
#666
Still can't explain why you now think rels is town? Not surprising
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 24 2015 07:24 GMT
#667
hes my top scum read wtf is wrong with u
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 24 2015 07:26 GMT
#668
how mad is banks tho
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
May 24 2015 08:09 GMT
#669
On May 24 2015 16:26 sicklucker wrote:
how mad is banks tho


No idea if this is mispost or just typo.

SL can I take you ignoring my questions that you still feel your suggestion with Vig is the best move tonight, even factoring in potential SK complications?

Or are you just failing to read atm?
I can take that responsibility.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 24 2015 08:24 GMT
#670
On May 24 2015 14:10 Breshke wrote:
Any opinions on stuff BM, i know it can be har to get back into a game after not being around but giving reads would make me more likely to townread you than giving reasons why you are town at this point.

Also i would rather the vigi just shoot people that i think are scum (SL) so pls dont accept death just yet.

I only have my initial thoughts from reading the first 10-20 pages. i dont think im going to catch up on this game.

i thought you were scum earlier on, but coming back into the game, i fully plan on just playing with a fresh mind, and coasting off the rest of the town, since you guys already lynched scum without me

why mess up a good thing, you know?

It's easier for me to get townreads than scumreads. It's easier for me to meta people I've played with a lot. It's easier to make reads when you are actually reading. I will make reads before I die if I don't get nightkilled, rest assured.

Id also like to amend my I scumread you to IGMEOY/FoS because it's more of "you're a good player, I don't know your alignment, so I'm apprehensive you could win the game/beat me" ; I wouldn't vote you at all. You're null, but when good players are null to me, I don't trust them. My read on you was also influenced by the thread, and someone saying something negative about you (as in you were scum)

Your tone, actually, though, here, indicates to me that you are more than likely town than scum. Well, you're more than likely town in general statistically, and while I'm not AtS (appealing to statstics) I'm making a language-joke. I feel like your tone in general, being inquisitive in an authoritative manner makes me want to follow you more than push you... and you don't have anything to prove to me at all where I've been relatively inactive.

On May 24 2015 15:19 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 14:06 Bill Murray wrote:
wow scott just kinda made me look good/townie
just iso'ed him

On May 22 2015 11:44 scott31337 wrote:
Dinner was good and now time to get to work...

I'm unsure what to think of BM's early vote, maybe just to get some discussion started?
He unvoted though.

On May 22 2015 11:20 sicklucker wrote:
On May 22 2015 10:24 Sulfurus wrote:
@sicklucker is it not normal for the mafia QT to be open during pregame b/c if it is you shouldn't have made that dumbtell
also ##Vote: Breshke


actually I forgot their was coaches. It looks coached This was probably a pocket attempt. No one ever agrees with me unless they have a motive. Also I think breskes town because if his mafia game is to attack me of all people in a newbie game with really weak reasons I will berate him post game so hes probably town.

Sulfurus

Sulfurus I got a n0 red check no you what say you?


SL loves to fakeclaim as town. +1

would mafia be "unsure of an early vote" from other mafia?
he is also dismissive of it like he actually wants to push me and is at the same time admitting im town with the "he unvoted tho" so honestly this looks good on me

he then goes on to talk about other facets of the game which is typical scum behavior IIoA

On May 23 2015 00:59 scott31337 wrote:
I like Rels the most so far, his list post has a lot of good thoughts and questions. Not lynching today.
Tictock seems like his town game so far - Not a D1 lynch

I don't like BM's post here -

On May 22 2015 14:15 Bill Murray wrote:
On May 22 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:
On May 22 2015 12:44 Bill Murray wrote:
I wish you'd lunch me breshke


what do you mean?

Read your post right above where I said that. You literally had a typo 39 seconds before that... It was a joke
On May 22 2015 13:27 sicklucker wrote:
bill murray is lynch bait.

definition - a guy who always looks scummy and gets lynched

not saying dont lynch him but keep that in mind

Completely disagree with you

You must be hyper imposing
On May 22 2015 13:07 Sulfurus wrote:
Unvote Breshke
##Vote: Bill Murray

I am actually astonished at how Murray can make so many posts with out providing anything of value on top of the fact that he has pushed every one of his agenda's in a scummy manner.

In posts 231 - 235 Breshke defends himself and Plotspot in a towny way and reading back Sicklucker is less towny than I thought so Breshke is no longer my top mafia.

First off my name isn't Murray you can call me bill or BM. Call me Murray again and I promise you my vote won't leave you. Second , I don't have any "agenda" other than reading this game and trying to help new players. Who do you think you are? You say I'm voting in a scummy manner but provide no reasoning and no case of your own. You then go on to trying to refute my case on plotspot and Breshke. Cute. I isn't realize we had a white knight in our noobs. I'm just glad town will largely ignore you because you have a whopping five posts on this website and ou obviously don't know what you're doing.



He's trying to incite Sulfurus here using emotion - Calling him a noob, says he doesn't know what he is doing, etc because he used his "last name"? Sulfurus has not replied to this yet, though. Often this is a mafia trait, and doing it to a "noob" so quickly is pretty bad.

Sulf hasn't done much in the game either, and seems tunneled on BM.

Batsnacks could go either way, he needs to set up some Battraps(tm) though, that'd be great.

BM would be at the top of my lynch list at the moment though - but we have plenty of time

Anyone have any questions for me?

Tries to push me more
Says im on top of his lynch list

obviously (to me/what i know) im not mafia and this should make any of you lean town on me



BM I don't even...

You got some balls coming back into the thread after more than a day of silence, and try to use scum posts to defend yourself as town...

shut up. disprove me. balls =/= scum

On May 24 2015 15:22 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 14:46 Sulfurus wrote:
I predict that if cop receives a town check on SL people will accuse him of being GF/SK and lynch him anyway, so cop should not check him.

A vigi shot on him is fine since the only way town doesn't kill him is if he claims a role.


This is a fantastic post...

i disagree this is a fantastic post. It actually creates a defense of SL... who is SL btw? I wish people would write names out.... but if SL is scum then Sulfurus easily could be scum. Say Sulfurus is actually GF and SL is goon so hes trying to subconsciously divert any check away from SL. Also implying the guy isnt gonna be lynched to the thread trying to get people to back off of him and let a night action clear it up.. im not buying Sulfurus isnt scum OR that this is a fantastic post

FoS Sulfurus/Tictock/SL as a possible pairing 2 of those 3 or all 3 mafia/SK i see scum in those 3 at least 1...

it could also be tictock wanting to congratulate the line of reasoning to get attention off SL the same way that I thought Sulfurus could be doing it in general. However, to argue with myself on this, tictock seems confident in the way that he is even congratulating anyone in general

Say you have a dog, or child, and they start changing their behavior (you influencing it doesnt matter) youre going to congratulate them for fixing it with "good job X" or "that's fantastic" like TicTock did. If you're taking care of someone, it's usually a good sentiment. this has to indicate tictock is likely town here.

Sulfurus is someone who has seemed to go for me without really having a reason to. Lack of reasoning usually indicates scum when they push. I'm going to go back to my original analysis of this and say that, if anything, this makes me look into Sulfurus and SL more. Gonna find out who SL is right now. oh i bet it's sicklucker

I didn't like SickLucker's earlygame. Putting it into perspective, Sulfurus is actually kind of making a good read here. Sulfurus is someone who is newer and could mistake my scummy play for being scum...

scummy=/= scum but he doesnt know that yet

he doesnt know that my play builds up and towards endgame i post a shit ton of walls and try to pin scum when i actually need to. if the game starts snowballing in the favor of the team im on its much more fun for me and i can analyze a lot better with information (im not good at creating information, only using it, disecting it, and analyzing it deductively)

which leads me to my last point
sicklucker is scum
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 24 2015 08:25 GMT
#671
totally. but I didnt think of the sk. If their is a sk killing a confirmed town might be good considering town is winning
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 24 2015 08:25 GMT
#672
see how easily i can delve into 2 posts on 1 page using 0 brain?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 24 2015 08:26 GMT
#673
On May 24 2015 17:25 sicklucker wrote:
totally. but I didnt think of the sk. If their is a sk killing a confirmed town might be good considering town is winning

look at this post for instance,
,

it is like mafia wanting to divert towards SK

it's easier for mafia to scumhunt when there are 2 mafia factions/3rd party

3rd party hunting 100% in a post is scummy towards being mafia

that in and of itself is worthy of scum leaning sicklucker

but im pretty sure hes scum deductively just following others defending him in mindset and words/actions
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 24 2015 08:33 GMT
#674
id also like to note sicklucker posted right in between my posts but now seems to be dodging replying
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 24 2015 08:34 GMT
#675
i saw disinformation had a few votes on him at one points... but his post on 32 has a towntell in it. im gonna quit spamming because i dont wanna be nightkilled
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
May 24 2015 08:40 GMT
#676
Nobody Shoot BM!

Like I don't even want to make a read here, I just want more posts like that.
I can take that responsibility.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 24 2015 08:53 GMT
#677
Hello, this is a message for the potentiel vig in this game. I want you to consider a sicklucker shot tonight. Please read this post and think about it.

First please read Breshke post here or in spoiler:

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 24 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 11:50 sicklucker wrote:
i think disinfo could be scum


Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
one of bunnies or disinfo are scum

probably disinfo


Has a shitty push on disinfo doesn't explain anything or put any effort into getting him lynched just faking suspicion to seem town.

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 20:16 sicklucker wrote:
##unvote ##vote scott

Ya whatever. On a quick reread disinfo filter is not really bad. No way we cant kill scott here. I think a policy lynch is fine I have no high percentage flips in my mind


Backs of his shitty read again with no reasoning when wagon seems to be going against his partner. Starts bussing to get towncred.

Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin


Tries to push rels AGAIN with no reasoning. Does not put any effort into getting rels lynched instead of scott even though scott is just a policy lynch for him and rels he genuinely thinks is scum.

SL is not trying to work out the game he mainly just posts to post. Probably started bussing his partner then tried to see if he could start a different wagon. When noone started biting he just drops it.

We are lynching SL tomorrow.



If that doesn't convince you I will take what I said about him here and add to it.

First reason
In a few of his posts he either says he's town or gives argument to why someone should read him town. Apparently SL is a good player, so that could be straight up subtile manipulation. It is the tactics from commercials; one can only see something so many times before one starts thinking it's true, not knowing where the thought came by. I'm talking about these posts:
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 22 2015 07:22 sicklucker wrote:
disinfo you gonna correctly read me town again?

On May 22 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 08:48 Breshke wrote:
It also says the all Qts were active in the like initial start of game post.

I'm not going to read you for a dumbbell SL I'm going to read you on giving nonsensical town reads and not thinking critically about the game


well you should because thats how you read me town

On May 22 2015 09:49 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 09:30 Breshke wrote:
On May 22 2015 09:22 sicklucker wrote:
On May 22 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote:
On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.

Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.

##vote: sicklucker


I really like this post and not even because it's telling people to vote SL the thought process is spot on.


its really nothing special. And im already playing and trying so its pretty pointless


Trying?

Saying your town for dumbtelling when its completly within your ability to do it as scum and your only read being that im scum for not calling you town for said dumbtell. I don't call that trying.

I get it is early but do you have opinions on anyone? What do you think of disinfo now that the QT thing has been corrected?


town points for not realizing their was a scum qt up for 24 hours like any town should

On May 22 2015 11:22 sicklucker wrote:
oh I totally took that post out of context hes asking me a qeustion pretty poor writinng . Oh well easy to read me town off that

On May 22 2015 11:37 sicklucker wrote:
im so town it hurts

On May 24 2015 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
Confirmed not veg dont shoot me mafia. Out for the night in a few

On May 24 2015 15:42 sicklucker wrote:
infact I was the hammer of the mafia and batsnackss followed me. I the town hero come at me




Second reason
On May 22 2015 08:33 Tictock wrote:
@Breshke

Humm you have a point. He did post an handful of stuff pretty fast and then bounce. Seems to be have just made a weak townread and then the weak towny post about not confusing us newbies.

Last game when he was town he never gave a shit about confusing us newbies. Now he's making this post defending newbies and town reading Dis, one of the newbies who was also in the last game with us. This does seem like he's scum motivated.

Straigth up this. I read student IX game, and SL was town and didn't give a shit about newbies.

Third reason
He says that BM is a lynch bait, but says this:

On May 22 2015 13:27 sicklucker wrote:
bill murray is lynch bait.

definition - a guy who always looks scummy and gets lynched

not saying dont lynch him but keep that in mind

That could be read as "lynch him if you want, when he flips green i'm going to be right". Seems to me like he almost want BM to be lynched without him on the train.

Forth reason
Until late in the last day he didn't vote scott and tried to push other people with no arguments. Really no arguments, just "I'm suspicious of XXX". Even after he voted scott, he still tried to push subtily other people without voting for them. I will list the posts where he does that. I will not post what he said on batsnacks because he actually made a case on him for once.
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 23 2015 11:50 sicklucker wrote:
i think disinfo could be scum

On May 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
one of bunnies or disinfo are scum

probably disinfo

On May 23 2015 13:16 sicklucker wrote:
bats disinfo or bunnies + one of bm or the new guys I havent bother to read at all outside of sulp

Can we just vote bats your townread on him makes no sense breske

On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin



Fifth reason
Lying.
On May 24 2015 15:36 sicklucker wrote:
rels was my lynch bro

No I wasn't. Batsnacks then scott was your lynch.

Aaaaaand that's it. sicklucker don't add anything useful, except one post: the one on batsnacks which amazingly I liked. Plus, apparently he plays like that every game, so no one can read him for sure. He really put chaos in the thread with how he posted: for example his defense post just above mine is only a gif.

What do you do with people hard to read, scummy, and that does things that cause chaos ? That's right. You vigi'd them. Even if he turns out to be town, that will be less confusion on the thread. So vig, if you even exist in this setup and have not made your mind about shooting, shoot SL.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 24 2015 08:58 GMT
#678
Two others point on SL:

Sixth reason
On May 24 2015 15:43 sicklucker wrote:
im vulnerable tictock have any questions for me?

Then TT post some questions, and SL doesn't answer.
On May 24 2015 15:45 Tictock wrote:
Already asked dude, though I'd also like to know your thoughts on 27nb and BM.

Off to play games, bbl.


Seventh reason
On May 24 2015 15:34 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 08:11 Rels wrote:
On May 24 2015 08:03 disformation wrote:
Well. 1/3 mafia down.


Do we have confirmation it is 3 mafia ?
I mean, that's what I assume too, but is it written anywhere ?


yes its going to always be 3 mafia in 13 player format but if theirs a sk then 2? im not getting many mafia reads so thats possible.

On May 24 2015 15:47 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 15:34 sicklucker wrote:
On May 24 2015 08:11 Rels wrote:
On May 24 2015 08:03 disformation wrote:
Well. 1/3 mafia down.


Do we have confirmation it is 3 mafia ?
I mean, that's what I assume too, but is it written anywhere ?


yes its going to always be 3 mafia in 13 player format but if theirs a sk then 2? im not getting many mafia reads so thats possible.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia

You were in this game SL and i kno you remember it because its one of the ones you love to mention so much because its the first one i got vig shot in. It had 3 mafia and an SK in a 13 player setup.

sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 24 2015 09:00 GMT
#679
On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin


u mad?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 24 2015 09:02 GMT
#680
anyway I just lynched mafia what did you do
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