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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On May 25 2015 08:06 sicklucker wrote: Im not gonna argue over a check I did or did not make. but why would I not check one of the new players I cant read with a scum lean on? I didn't want to argue I was just wondering. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
Still not giving reads SL. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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plotspot
800 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
a bunnies lynch wouldnt make me happy but I wouldnt cry about it | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On May 25 2015 08:15 sicklucker wrote: I reread his filter. I have given more reads then you wtf are you talking about What in his filter made you think he was town. Yet you arn't pushing anyone to be lynched right now. Yeah I am sure you have a lot of reads. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On May 25 2015 08:15 plotspot wrote: I never understood what you mean by ogi? Can you explain that technicality? scott always says im really smart as mafia so I feel like he wouldnt play like that if he was my partner because he would have higher expectations | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On May 25 2015 08:04 sicklucker wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 24 2015 23:06 disformation wrote: Great, looking forward to that.  Looking at the votes on scott: rels: pressures all the people with low/zero posts. did put a pressure vote on scott for basically only having 1-2 meh posts. scott tries to get rels off him, by saying he likes rels a lot. rels didn't seem impressed. scott never returns, so rels just keeps his vote on him. breskhe: also voting for doing jack. but also backs it up with a meta read. Oh and he also calls out scott earlier: Liking breshke a lot looking at this. sicklucker: votes batsnacks, quickly drops that vote. Either a joke vote, or realizing that this wagon won't go anywhere? Looks at the two available wagons, realizes that scott looks worse than me, throws his vote on him. Says N1 that he would have tried to get me lynched instead of scott, if he had been around EoD1. Not sure what to make of him atm. =/ batsnacks: had an earlier vote on scott, after looking at bunnies, sulf and scott. decided to vote scott out of that bunch. Then switches to sicklucker with that one super irritating post. TBH I was thinking batsnacks and sicklucker were just trolling each other there. But sicklucker is still going on about that? Well, batsnacks drops this vote on sicklucker super fast and votes scott with: Since this aligns with his previous vote/read and the sicklucker vote was just a troll, I think this looks legit. boxerfred: annouces that he will vote for an inactive person with: goes ahead and votes scott: Expresses some doubts here: So... he goes from "I'll vote for whoever is really inactiv", which can imply "regardless of alignment" to "oh wow I really don't like to coinflip on the most inactive person ever." Not really liking this. boxerfred, I would love to explain your train of thought on this. If someone arrives at other conclusions from the votes, I would be down to talk about that. Will do some chores now so:  me unvoting bats is non alignment related. I relized he was not gonna get any votes and my vote was wasted. so i unvote their as town or mafia because its a wasted vote. I said I was considering voting you did I ever tho? no because before I voted you I read your filter and decided you were not a great vote and then I lynched scum. Yes that part is pretty clear to me. Was wondering about: On May 24 2015 19:15 sicklucker wrote: The standard play is not to lynch people who have not voted because their getting mod killed anyway. We got lucky I was bizzy at deadline and didnt get the lynch on disinfo because that would have been the smarter play not knowing scot was mafia Nobody knew that scott would't try to get a last minute vote off. On May 25 2015 08:07 sicklucker wrote: If im mafia whos my partner here? everyones voted me at some point of the game now. Me and bunnies would not be that obv. I sapose I could be with bm? why dont you just vote him first Possible that I was trying to hard to find a connection between my two top scum reads. Rels and Breshke have made pretty compelling cases on you. Your answers so far weren't really satisfying. Do you want to try again? + Show Spoiler + On May 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote: Hello, this is a message for the potentiel vig in this game. I want you to consider a sicklucker shot tonight. Please read this post and think about it. First please read Breshke post here or in spoiler: + Show Spoiler + On May 24 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote: Has a shitty push on disinfo doesn't explain anything or put any effort into getting him lynched just faking suspicion to seem town. Backs of his shitty read again with no reasoning when wagon seems to be going against his partner. Starts bussing to get towncred. Tries to push rels AGAIN with no reasoning. Does not put any effort into getting rels lynched instead of scott even though scott is just a policy lynch for him and rels he genuinely thinks is scum. SL is not trying to work out the game he mainly just posts to post. Probably started bussing his partner then tried to see if he could start a different wagon. When noone started biting he just drops it. We are lynching SL tomorrow. If that doesn't convince you I will take what I said about him here and add to it. First reason In a few of his posts he either says he's town or gives argument to why someone should read him town. Apparently SL is a good player, so that could be straight up subtile manipulation. It is the tactics from commercials; one can only see something so many times before one starts thinking it's true, not knowing where the thought came by. I'm talking about these posts: + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 07:22 sicklucker wrote: disinfo you gonna correctly read me town again? On May 22 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote: well you should because thats how you read me town On May 22 2015 09:49 sicklucker wrote: town points for not realizing their was a scum qt up for 24 hours like any town should On May 22 2015 11:22 sicklucker wrote: oh I totally took that post out of context hes asking me a qeustion pretty poor writinng . Oh well easy to read me town off that On May 22 2015 11:37 sicklucker wrote: im so town it hurts On May 24 2015 07:14 sicklucker wrote: Confirmed not veg dont shoot me mafia. Out for the night in a few On May 24 2015 15:42 sicklucker wrote: infact I was the hammer of the mafia and batsnackss followed me. I the town hero come at me Second reason Straigth up this. I read student IX game, and SL was town and didn't give a shit about newbies. Third reason He says that BM is a lynch bait, but says this: That could be read as "lynch him if you want, when he flips green i'm going to be right". Seems to me like he almost want BM to be lynched without him on the train. Forth reason Until late in the last day he didn't vote scott and tried to push other people with no arguments. Really no arguments, just "I'm suspicious of XXX". Even after he voted scott, he still tried to push subtily other people without voting for them. I will list the posts where he does that. I will not post what he said on batsnacks because he actually made a case on him for once. + Show Spoiler + On May 23 2015 11:50 sicklucker wrote: i think disinfo could be scum On May 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote: one of bunnies or disinfo are scum probably disinfo On May 23 2015 13:16 sicklucker wrote: bats disinfo or bunnies + one of bm or the new guys I havent bother to read at all outside of sulp Can we just vote bats your townread on him makes no sense breske On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote: Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin Fifth reason Lying. On May 24 2015 15:36 sicklucker wrote: rels was my lynch bro No I wasn't. Batsnacks then scott was your lynch. Aaaaaand that's it. sicklucker don't add anything useful, except one post: the one on batsnacks which amazingly I liked. Plus, apparently he plays like that every game, so no one can read him for sure. He really put chaos in the thread with how he posted: for example his defense post just above mine is only a gif. What do you do with people hard to read, scummy, and that does things that cause chaos ? That's right. You vigi'd them. Even if he turns out to be town, that will be less confusion on the thread. So vig, if you even exist in this setup and have not made your mind about shooting, shoot SL. On May 24 2015 17:58 Rels wrote: Two others point on SL: Sixth reason Then TT post some questions, and SL doesn't answer. Seventh reason Getting super tired. Not sure how long I'll be available. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On May 25 2015 08:18 sicklucker wrote: I think we lynch between bats/bm boxerfred? a bunnies lynch wouldnt make me happy but I wouldnt cry about it What did you think of bm's big post where he went all james joyce? | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On May 25 2015 08:22 batsnacks wrote: What did you think of bm's big post where he went all james joyce? didnt read yet | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
I think that's a good starting point because up until this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=34#670 He was pretty universally not-town read but then everyone I noticed changed their mind. When I've seen BM as mafia he usually does big plays and makes these huge stream of consciousness style posts. This game is lacking the big plays but he has been busy and that is a huge stream of consciousness style post so... | ||
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plotspot
800 Posts
Sicklucker: I admit I might be biased here, from his early posts on D1 4 hours into the game. I had the feeling he really thought about the game and was wondering how to progress it. From then on it was just his natural style, dropping in, posting in streaks, discussing stuff with people online and then vanishing again. I felt he was genuine, it was his style. Ok starting from post 357 (on my sheet) he starts to randomly scum leaning people without providing long-winded reasons. I guess he has me sold when he scumleaned Rels, who I admitted I thought was scum for reasons I posted. So yeah to D1 I think he is town. Disformation: I originally scummed him for his first 3 hours, but as I went on reading more of him, I felt he had this sort of “I’m not sure about this or that”. He is one of the most active, but combine it anxiety for search and a slight bit of uncertainty lingering in his posts, I can only see him as town. Right now I am aware that he sort of has gotten into a battle with Boxerfred, so I will look into this more deeper. Bill Murray: I believe this guy. He just doesn’t give a crap, yeah he might not be a helpful town (though you never know, he might have a reason to stay more low-key), but mafia? I’ll consider if other options have run out. Tictock: oh yeah Tictock. I totally believe he is town. He is too active, too anxious. I feel he is almost to impatient to get results and reads in. In my opinion he would help town even more if he paced down a little bit. I believe mafia can use his wind to sailstab other townies if he isn’t careful. Just my opinion. But there, town. I’ve overcome his strangeness somewhat and believe it to be wrong chemistry if we misread eachother. Breshke: Do I need to elaborate on this case? He has a sharp mind and is noticing and questioning things I can only say in retrospect: yeah good point. If Breshke is mafia, we are all dead. Boxerfred: Is town because his stream-of-consiousness way of posting. I cannot imagine mafia being able to simulate this. He thinks:”hmm how can I solve this, oh right there was this thing I didn’t consider *posts*,… ah wait this thing too *post*. Beside that he had the slip about the coaching thread. I cannot imagine you would plan this as mafia. No way. The way I guess he is in some sort of heat with Disinformation is due to they both being uncertain and in a way naturally biased on how to perceive certain things. But I will look into N1 soon. Regarding 27ninjabunnies, Sulfurus, Batsnacks and Barakos, while I was able to “deeply” the others these were the ones I couldn’t confidently read. This is where I need to filter-read them. If you were to pin me down now, I’d say BS and BA slight town read. SU and 27 slight scum. But let’s see. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On May 25 2015 08:25 sicklucker wrote: ok wow thats a big post. So i cant be scum with bm now. Whos my partner? He had many similar posts in his last game as mafia in assassination. | ||
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plotspot
800 Posts
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plotspot
800 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
2) Tictock like never my partner he has too many petty arguments againt me and votes me 4) plotspot Pushing me today 5) boxerfred acual this one makes some sense good thing im not scum 6) disformation hes pushing/voting me 7) Barakos would I check my team mate? Also probably pushing me im not sure 8) Sulfurus Who cares hes town 9) 27ninjabunnies Dont think we would be that obv 10) Bill Murray Im his only push apparently. I think hes the vote today 11) Breshke woulda rage quit if he was my partner 13) batsnacks pretty sure hes trying to lynch me. I voted him he voted me | ||
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