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plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 24 2015 22:12 GMT
#761
Though I do agree that naturally a mafia shot is the most likely.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 24 2015 22:13 GMT
#762
Unless someone's claiming doctor there's 0% chance that was anything other than mafia kp.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 24 2015 22:14 GMT
#763
Well GG!
Go town we can win this!
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 24 2015 22:15 GMT
#764
I'm not going to argue with you why rels would have been a terrible Vigi shot because it isn't useful to talk about. They were clearly town even before the flip he was the one who started the wagon on Scott.

Plot why aren't you voting SL yet? Do you not think he is scum?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 24 2015 22:18 GMT
#765
On May 25 2015 07:00 boxerfred wrote:
You [i]say that you only have such choices. There wasn't really someone else on the edge of voting on you so it was not "me or the afk guy". So I read your vote as a "okay safe call".

You could've done quite much, or even nothing. Don't ask me on that, I don't know your alignment or your role, so I think you're doing what's best for your role.
[/s]

Yep, vote was the safe call. Tried to explain my reasons for that.

[QUOTE]On May 25 2015 07:00 boxerfred wrote:
Testing everyone and blaming everyone and following different guys in their argumentation seems SK like to me. Or, tryhard townie. However, I'm moving away from the "you're scum" view. I don't think you're scum.

Well, fair enough.
More interested in dealing with 27ninjabunnies and sicklucker.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 24 2015 22:18 GMT
#766
EBWOP:
dat formating fail.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 24 2015 22:20 GMT
#767
yeah I do not think he is scum, I was just finished with p30 (and consequently D1) and I was pretty sure I had Rels as scum. There are 4 other players I am not sure of their alignment but... let me see... for Tictock, boxerfred, disformation, Bill Murray, Breshke and SL, I was sure they are town.
But now also 9 pages to go now until I'm REALLY up-to-date. If I see that SL is a scum with my latest reads, you can be sure I will vote him.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 24 2015 22:30 GMT
#768
Reread breschke's and Rels's cases on sicklucker and looked at sicklucker's responses. Which are crap and as I mentioned here:
On May 25 2015 06:51 disformation wrote:
The other two "late" votes where sicklucker and batsnacks. batsnacks had him scummed earlier. I can see sicklucker voting for him to look more townie. Didn't he even argument how townie he is for lynching scott, at the beginning of N1?
Will look into that.

Yes he did.
On May 24 2015 18:02 sicklucker wrote:
anyway I just lynched mafia what did you do


I also want to throw this:
On May 23 2015 06:01 sicklucker wrote:
vote count? anyone voting disinfo? I might

disinfo can you list your read. I have no idea what your reads are and you posted alot not a good sign

Riiiiight back at him.

##Vote: sicklucker

Still not liking 27ninjabunnies at all. Depending on how/if at all she answers my questions, I can see myself making another case.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 24 2015 22:37 GMT
#769
Ok here goes.
[image loading]
Figure 1: Posting by people on D1

How can you use this figure?
I think it is usually for getting an overview on a person's activity. How does a person behave? When are his sleep times (I highlighted big absence time with grey)? When could he be possibly lurking? When does it feels like he really is just AFK doing some stuff?
It also shows some interaction and sort of summarizes in broad if you don't want to filter-read someone just yet. Due to this I think I was able to read people deeper.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 24 2015 22:45 GMT
#770
Hehe.
I just did something funny. Was looking at 27ninjabunnies filter. Do you know her last post on SL?

On May 24 2015 00:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 13:25 sicklucker wrote:
Lets look at bats read progresion on me

On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.

Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.

##vote: sicklucker


0 scum read on me 100% presure vote

On May 23 2015 02:56 batsnacks wrote:
SL is null still. I never really had a reason to scum read him I sort of just voted him to vote someone.

I'm looking at sulfur and Scott until they post something that sticks in my memory. When I find time I need to read bunnies filter and sort out some of the stuff I saw when I was skimming. I'm off work in like 3 hours I can only really briefly respond/snark at stuff until then.


Still no read on me admits his vote on me means nothing


On May 23 2015 12:20 batsnacks wrote:
Let's lynch SL seriously. Town SL takes being scum read way more personally than he has this game. Scott is a fine vote too and so is BM at this point but I'm really feeling SL if he thinks he can ignore pressure and do nothing.


Has not mentioned me since all of a sudden he drops this post which conveniently is similar to thread setiment

Ya ok bats ok. I think hes a mafia with a made up read here following a few donkeys who cant read my obv town play


I actually like this post on BS that SL has made.

@BS do you have a flow of thoughts besides this shit that lead you to SL being scum?


"Shit"? Pretty harsh words for a scum read on sicklucker. Who was before this post a scum read for 27ninjabunnies. One she didn't bother to explain, although I kept asking her about it.

Likewise sicklucker reads her scum in the beginning of the game and suddenly goes:
On May 24 2015 05:57 sicklucker wrote:
ya shes probably town. I liked a few of her reads. I was a lil paranoid of her from some ogi reasons


And a lot of their early "disagreement" was build around that super early "troll vote" bunnies did on sicklucker. That could have been manufactured in mafia qt, right?
Am I starting to see things? Or am I onto something? Opinions on that?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 24 2015 22:48 GMT
#771
[image loading]
Figure 2: Interactions between players

How can you use this figure?

Quick overview on who is scumreading or townreading whom, and who pressured whom by talking to them or about them. Is there a balance in the ask/reply ratio (row = acting people, column = receiving people). For some cases it might not be relevant anymore but, it's the whole interaction of D1 and not just the first 6hs, so maybe it can still count for something.

With that done, I will proceed with my read based on D1. I will consider dropping these sheets as they really take so much time, in order to proceed to reading N1, in time to catch up with the more recent events.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 24 2015 22:51 GMT
#772
On May 25 2015 07:20 plotspot wrote:
yeah I do not think he is scum, I was just finished with p30 (and consequently D1) and I was pretty sure I had Rels as scum. There are 4 other players I am not sure of their alignment but... let me see... for Tictock, boxerfred, disformation, Bill Murray, Breshke and SL, I was sure they are town.
But now also 9 pages to go now until I'm REALLY up-to-date. If I see that SL is a scum with my latest reads, you can be sure I will vote him.

besides disinformation, I'm with you.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 24 2015 22:54 GMT
#773
I didnt die? cool
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 24 2015 22:54 GMT
#774
On May 25 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
I'm not going to argue with you why rels would have been a terrible Vigi shot because it isn't useful to talk about. They were clearly town even before the flip he was the one who started the wagon on Scott.

Plot why aren't you voting SL yet? Do you not think he is scum?


why is anyone voting me honestly? can anyone explain?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 24 2015 22:57 GMT
#775
anyway if I flip cop remember I have a green check on barkos
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 24 2015 22:58 GMT
#776
and thats not a claim thats just cop cover that I leave everygame. And when I am the actual seer/cop you know who I did check and theirs not arguments over it
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 24 2015 23:01 GMT
#777
Why would you check bakara?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 24 2015 23:04 GMT
#778
On May 24 2015 23:06 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 20:38 plotspot wrote:
hi guys, I've reached p23. p24 was where I first published my statistics. EoD was is p30, so I think I will take this too before I post a summary, as well as my reads on the remaining players for D1.


Great, looking forward to that.

Looking at the votes on scott:

rels: pressures all the people with low/zero posts. did put a pressure vote on scott for basically only having 1-2 meh posts. scott tries to get rels off him, by saying he likes rels a lot. rels didn't seem impressed. scott never returns, so rels just keeps his vote on him.

breskhe: also voting for doing jack. but also backs it up with a meta read.
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 12:21 Breshke wrote:
##Vote scott31337

I agree scott needs to lift his game. So does Bill murray to a degree both these people feel like coinflips at the moment. Like especially scott from just from looking at the three other games he has played seemed to have achieved the longest filter in his 1 town game even though he was only alive for one day compared to his scum games where he survived to D3 yet had a smaller filter.

Oh and he also calls out scott earlier:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 17:09 Breshke wrote:
I also kind of don't like this

On May 22 2015 12:00 scott31337 wrote:
On May 22 2015 11:49 plotspot wrote:
oh lawl game has started, but I have to go to sleep now, see you tomorrow
*celebrate good times come on*


What kind of post is this? You weren't even able to post any original thoughts before you left?


When scott leaves right after it after having only one other post. Feels scummy

Liking breshke a lot looking at this.

sicklucker: votes batsnacks, quickly drops that vote. Either a joke vote, or realizing that this wagon won't go anywhere? Looks at the two available wagons, realizes that scott looks worse than me, throws his vote on him. Says N1 that he would have tried to get me lynched instead of scott, if he had been around EoD1. Not sure what to make of him atm. =/

batsnacks: had an earlier vote on scott, after looking at bunnies, sulf and scott. decided to vote scott out of that bunch. Then switches to sicklucker with that one super irritating post.
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 12:03 batsnacks wrote:
##vote sicklucker

ignore this it's nothing

+ Show Spoiler +
but I'm probably not switching

TBH I was thinking batsnacks and sicklucker were just trolling each other there. But sicklucker is still going on about that?
Well, batsnacks drops this vote on sicklucker super fast and votes scott with:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 20:14 batsnacks wrote:
In all seriousness I can't vote SL or anyone for that matter over scott if he's not going to post before deadline. Even what he has is scummy.

Since this aligns with his previous vote/read and the sicklucker vote was just a troll, I think this looks legit.

boxerfred: annouces that he will vote for an inactive person with:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 17:03 boxerfred wrote:
I think I'll vote for whoever is really inactive. That's like the safest way to not lose someone who's really valuable.

goes ahead and votes scott:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 21:41 boxerfred wrote:
Okay. So ##vote scott31337 it is. I'll try to chime in before EOD to check if he posted something, however, I won't have the time to post for the next 6-8 hours. gonna be close.

Expresses some doubts here:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 06:47 boxerfred wrote:
wow back just in time. so we still coinflip on scott - i don't like this since it's really ruining the game. Is that where modkills apply?

So... he goes from "I'll vote for whoever is really inactiv", which can imply "regardless of alignment" to "oh wow I really don't like to coinflip on the most inactive person ever."
Not really liking this. boxerfred, I would love to explain your train of thought on this.

If someone arrives at other conclusions from the votes, I would be down to talk about that. Will do some chores now so:


me unvoting bats is non alignment related. I relized he was not gonna get any votes and my vote was wasted. so i unvote their as town or mafia because its a wasted vote.

I said I was considering voting you did I ever tho? no because before I voted you I read your filter and decided you were not a great vote and then I lynched scum.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 24 2015 23:06 GMT
#779
Im not gonna argue over a check I did or did not make. but why would I not check one of the new players I cant read with a scum lean on?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 24 2015 23:07 GMT
#780
If im mafia whos my partner here? everyones voted me at some point of the game now.

Me and bunnies would not be that obv.

I sapose I could be with bm? why dont you just vote him first
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