Or even if you aren't active. I haven't been playing for the last 2 months, chilled around 1900ish with 700+ bonus. Got promoted to Masters on my first game.

CecilSunkure

United States2829 Posts

January 12 2011 02:02 GMT

#63

On January 12 2011 10:31 politik wrote:
Masters league is basically the new diamond, anyone can get in. (If you are active) Very disappointing.

Well if the stabilized MMR requirement is based on a value generated from statistics of all players, then the people let in may be let in by a proportional MMR requirement, thus by definition not everyone can get into any league (except theoretically bronze).

Bluetea

United States185 Posts

January 12 2011 02:18 GMT

#64

Hey Excalibur I have a question for you.

Is the Masters league going to be like Diamond where inactive players are able to remain in the league? Or is Masters going to push out the inactive players? Because a lot of people will get into Masters and then go afk.

CecilSunkure

United States2829 Posts

January 12 2011 02:25 GMT

#65

On January 12 2011 11:18 Bluetea wrote:
Hey Excalibur I have a question for you.

Is the Masters league going to be like Diamond where inactive players are able to remain in the league? Or is Masters going to push out the inactive players? Because a lot of people will get into Masters and then go afk.

Oh yeah. I guess everyone could get into Master's as long as people in Master's go afk. That's of course making some assumptions, like MMR is calculated on a game-by-game basis instead of using some sort of global proportions algorithm, and that people won't be demoted for being afk. Blizzard might want to consider demoting inactive accounts when they fall below an MMR requirement, but at the moment it looks like people are only demoted or promoted after a game is played.

Edit: Or perhaps deleting inactive account's MMR, so that after say 90 days of inactivity (or whatever other value is decided) you have to go through placement matches again.

Kalingingsong

Canada633 Posts

January 12 2011 02:30 GMT

#66

does the 2% cutoff mean it will be easier to get demoted? or how does that work?

Excalibur_Z

United States12224 Posts

January 12 2011 02:30 GMT

#67

You never get demoted due to inactivity, just removed from the population. So yes, you're right that people will probably get into Master then idle, since that happened with Diamond at the start.

Azzur

Australia6250 Posts

January 12 2011 02:31 GMT

#68

Once the Masters league settles, we can determine how much of the region is in that league.

Also, hoping that inactive Master league players will get demoted if they fall below the cutoff.

Natt

France253 Posts

January 12 2011 02:35 GMT

#69

nvm

Liquid_Ecstasy

United States35 Posts

January 12 2011 02:36 GMT

#70

Just wondering, what kind of MMR do you need to get into the Master's League? If I'm playing 2.3k diamond's, am I near the level of the people currently in it? My guess is that the average person in it was at the 2.5k-2.6k mark, but is that correct?

Bluetea

United States185 Posts

January 12 2011 02:38 GMT

#71

On January 12 2011 11:30 Excalibur_Z wrote:

Show nested quote +

You never get demoted due to inactivity, just removed from the population. So yes, you're right that people will probably get into Master then idle, since that happened with Diamond at the start.

What do you mean "removed from the population"?

Excalibur_Z

United States12224 Posts

January 12 2011 02:41 GMT

#72

If you're inactive, you're no longer considered an "active player" and don't count toward those percentages.

Xodushai

Sweden174 Posts

January 12 2011 02:41 GMT

#73

According to sc2ranks.com, there are 542 501 players in Europe on ladder.

542 501*0.02 = 10 492

Players around rank 10 500 in diamond Europe has about 1900 points, so if the speculation that masters league will be the top 2% of the player base is true, 1900 points and above in the European diamond league will give you a spot in masters league. This equals roughly:

10 492/39 300 = 0.267 = the top 27% of the current diamond league.

Just some quick numbers, hopefully no thinking errors! Europe is best example since patch is not yet implemented here.

This would definitely clean out most of the bad people, but it would not be a super exclusive league either. But hey, thats what future grand master league is intended for, if there ever will be one.

dtz

5834 Posts

January 12 2011 02:46 GMT

#74

You have to somehow know how many of those 542 501 are active for your calculation to be correct i think.

Does Sc2ranks have away to filter active player ( lets say have played ladder 1v1 in the last month)

forelmashi

421 Posts

January 12 2011 02:56 GMT

#75

so practically they did reset the ladder, heh

BeMannerDuPenner

Germany5638 Posts

January 12 2011 03:00 GMT

#76

On January 12 2011 11:56 forelmashi wrote:
so practically they did reset the ladder, heh

no, they only semi "reset" the top of diamond and put em above diamond.

RivalryRedux

United States173 Posts

January 12 2011 03:01 GMT

#77

On January 12 2011 11:41 Xodushai wrote:
According to sc2ranks.com, there are 542 501 players in Europe on ladder.

542 501*0.02 = 10 492

Players around rank 10 500 in diamond Europe has about 1900 points, so if the speculation that masters league will be the top 2% of the player base is true, 1900 points and above in the European diamond league will give you a spot in masters league. This equals roughly:

10 492/39 300 = 0.267 = the top 27% of the current diamond league.

Just some quick numbers, hopefully no thinking errors! Europe is best example since patch is not yet implemented here.

This would definitely clean out most of the bad people, but it would not be a super exclusive league either. But hey, thats what future grand master league is intended for, if there ever will be one.

It shouldn't work like that because promotions are based off of MMR and point totals are largely activity based. A player that has used up all of the bonus points to get 1900 would have a pretty low MMR and would likely be a borderline diamond/platinum player.

Cambam

United States360 Posts

January 12 2011 03:02 GMT

#78

I could be wrong, but I don't think it's that simple. You have to factor in Diamond division ranks (S, A, B, C, D, E)

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169830

So for example, if 1900 is the bottom of the top 2%, someone who has 1900 but is in a Code E division (1585 true rating), is not actually in that top 2%.

Zelniq

United States7166 Posts

January 12 2011 03:04 GMT

#79

so does anyone have a clue why i went from like rank #50-60 by points before patch, but now after promotion to master im #467 on NA? i'm also #27th on blizz's top 200 released today so i am quite confused

Terranium

Turkmenistan144 Posts

January 12 2011 03:04 GMT

#80

I've noticed something interesting. When you get promoted to Masters League, you leave behind an empty spot in your previous diamond division. That means pretty soon some of the top diamond divisions e.g. Observer Mars, Medivac Alamo etc will become virtually empty? Or will Blizzard pull in top platinum players to fill the spots?