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United States12257 Posts
On January 12 2011 10:18 aztrorisk wrote:GUYS! I'm pretty sure that masters is 2% of diamond league. check http://www.sc2ranks.com/stats/league/all/1/allonly 800 people in masters so far, that means that it will be 2% of diamond and about 2500 will be in Masters in all. Not 2% of everybody but 2% of diamond. 800 people is a reasonable number.
Master league is still being filled. New divisions are popping up all the time.
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On January 12 2011 10:19 Excalibur_Z wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 10:18 aztrorisk wrote:GUYS! I'm pretty sure that masters is 2% of diamond league. check http://www.sc2ranks.com/stats/league/all/1/allonly 800 people in masters so far, that means that it will be 2% of diamond and about 2500 will be in Masters in all. Not 2% of everybody but 2% of diamond. 800 people is a reasonable number. Master league is still being filled. New divisions are popping up all the time.
I believe SC2Ranks doesn't refresh its servers fast enough to have everyone in masters currently appear in masters.
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Master league is still being filled. New divisions are popping up all the time.
Yes, I know that. However, the 2% of everybody is merely a rumor so far. As a result, I think it is best if you remove it from the OP. I'm pretty sure that the system will put about 2,500 people in diamond instead of 13000 people because blizzard said 2% of diamond. It would be unreasonable to change it to 2% of everybody.
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I have two accounts, one in NA Server and another in LA Server.
In NA i was promoted right after playing my first game. I was 2100 with 600 Bonus pool and was matched almost every game against 2800 ++
In LA i was promoted when i won my second game. I was 600 points with 31-15 and like 1900 bonus pool. I was ranked with the top 50 of the server since placements.
This is making me think... points and ladder stats are not being considered to get promotion to master league? Only de hidden MMR or hidden ranking is in consideration?
My profiles:
NA http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/440652/SsTMarinito
LA http://www.sc2ranks.com/la/218783/Marinito
PD: Sorry for my bad english... really.
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United States12257 Posts
On January 12 2011 10:21 aztrorisk wrote:Show nested quote +Master league is still being filled. New divisions are popping up all the time. Yes, I know that. However, the 2% of everybody is merely a rumor so far. As a result, I think it is best if you remove it from the OP. I'm pretty sure that the system will put about 2,500 people in diamond instead of 13000 people because blizzard said 2% of diamond. It would be unreasonable to change it to 2% of everybody.
That information comes from the SEA blog: http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/116151#blog
Q: How do I get into the Master League?
A: Only the top 2% of active players in each region will be elevated to the Master League. Because the Diamond League accounts for 20% of all active players, even the #1 ranked player in your Diamond division may not necessarily be promoted to Master League. Our automated placement system compares your player skill to that of all players in your region by way of matches played, just as we do with the Top 200, to determine eligibility.
There is conflicting information later in the post that claims 2% of Diamond league, but this has to be a typo because it contradicts what we heard the design was for Master league at Blizzcon, which was to pull the top 1-2% per region from Diamond. Because Diamond covers the top 20% of active players, the top 2% would equal the top 10% of Diamond, and that's what the Master league is.
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Masters league is basically the new diamond, anyone can get in. (If you are active) Very disappointing.
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The bonus pool problem is fixed for me now.
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United States7166 Posts
heh i went from like top 50 on NA to 470th from the point translation when bumped into Master league
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So do we have an idea of the approximate cutoff is for Masters? I know it's based on MMR, but what are the lowest ratings getting promoted?
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2% of active players is hardly "everyone".
But yeah, new thread: Guys, I am stuck on diamond, what should I do? Can I 4 gate my way into Master? :D
LA server have only 1 division so far. I am hoping we won't have much more than 1, cause I am hoping to someone at diamond be able to get into top 200, so we can do more maths ^^
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On January 12 2011 10:36 Zelniq wrote:
heh i went from like top 50 on NA to 470th from the point translation when bumped into Master league. (I believe this is because of the weird system where for some reason every bonus point you've spent is now awarded to you again when going into master league. and because i've laddered more than almost anyone I know and gained very little bonus points since release, i got very little comparing to every other inactive player)
so instead of removing what is a retarded system (bonus pool), they doubled it, cool.
thanks for punishing the most active ladderers even more
I'm pretty sure everyone gets the same amount of bonus points, you were just spending them as soon as they came in. Best check with Excalibur_Z though.
P.S. I'm in your division! Go Zerg!
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Interesting. Haven't played a game since I got promoted, but my bonus pool when looking at my division is 91, and 82 when looking at the multiplayer 1v1 searching for game screen.
UPDATE: Lost a match, now both say 82.
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I am almost 2600 diamond and have yet do be promoted yet, I find this odd, most games are vs 2500-2600+ folks
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United States7166 Posts
edit: nvm i understand now why i was so confused by the system
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^^ This is as wrong as can be, sorry. Everyone has the same amount of bonus points no matter what.
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im sorry if this was already answered, but will there be a limit of how many master league divisions that will be created? I'm pretty sure there will be since it's only top 2% of players?
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Had 2611 points and like 180 bonus, hand laddered in a while, won my first game, got +23 + 23 bonus and got promoted to master with 2162 points.
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haha zelniq ninja edited right when i hit "quote" ;D
ee han timin!
do i understand it right that the initial rating you get after promotion is related to bonus pool? so someone with 0 would be 2300 and someone with 600 would be 1700?
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Masters league is basically the new diamond, anyone can get in. (If you are active) Very disappointing.
Really o.0 So if i just play like 10 games a day I'll get in masters eventually? kinda sounds dissappointing actually if you put it that way...
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On January 12 2011 10:31 politik wrote:
Masters league is basically the new diamond, anyone can get in. (If you are active) Very disappointing.
i disagree with that to a degree, sure anybody could get into diamond, but masters league doesn't mean pro, it just means top players to the level of top 2%, do you really think your diamond player below the bonus pool mark, lets say 2000, is going to make the masters league without improving, right now it seems like it's around the 2600-2700 mark with bonus pool included
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