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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
January 12 2011 01:19 GMT
#41
On January 12 2011 10:18 aztrorisk wrote:
GUYS! I'm pretty sure that masters is 2% of diamond league.

check http://www.sc2ranks.com/stats/league/all/1/all

only 800 people in masters so far, that means that it will be 2% of diamond and about 2500 will be in Masters in all.


Not 2% of everybody but 2% of diamond. 800 people is a reasonable number.


Master league is still being filled. New divisions are popping up all the time.
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Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
January 12 2011 01:21 GMT
#42
On January 12 2011 10:19 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 10:18 aztrorisk wrote:
GUYS! I'm pretty sure that masters is 2% of diamond league.

check http://www.sc2ranks.com/stats/league/all/1/all

only 800 people in masters so far, that means that it will be 2% of diamond and about 2500 will be in Masters in all.


Not 2% of everybody but 2% of diamond. 800 people is a reasonable number.


Master league is still being filled. New divisions are popping up all the time.


I believe SC2Ranks doesn't refresh its servers fast enough to have everyone in masters currently appear in masters.
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aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
January 12 2011 01:21 GMT
#43
Master league is still being filled. New divisions are popping up all the time.


Yes, I know that. However, the 2% of everybody is merely a rumor so far. As a result, I think it is best if you remove it from the OP. I'm pretty sure that the system will put about 2,500 people in diamond instead of 13000 people because blizzard said 2% of diamond. It would be unreasonable to change it to 2% of everybody.
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
MurdeR
Profile Joined May 2004
Argentina89 Posts
January 12 2011 01:25 GMT
#44
I have two accounts, one in NA Server and another in LA Server.

In NA i was promoted right after playing my first game. I was 2100 with 600 Bonus pool and was matched almost every game against 2800 ++

In LA i was promoted when i won my second game. I was 600 points with 31-15 and like 1900 bonus pool. I was ranked with the top 50 of the server since placements.

This is making me think... points and ladder stats are not being considered to get promotion to master league? Only de hidden MMR or hidden ranking is in consideration?

My profiles:

NA http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/440652/SsTMarinito
LA http://www.sc2ranks.com/la/218783/Marinito

PD: Sorry for my bad english... really.
Comunidad Argentina de SC2: www.latingamers.net
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
January 12 2011 01:28 GMT
#45
On January 12 2011 10:21 aztrorisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
Master league is still being filled. New divisions are popping up all the time.


Yes, I know that. However, the 2% of everybody is merely a rumor so far. As a result, I think it is best if you remove it from the OP. I'm pretty sure that the system will put about 2,500 people in diamond instead of 13000 people because blizzard said 2% of diamond. It would be unreasonable to change it to 2% of everybody.


That information comes from the SEA blog: http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/116151#blog

Q: How do I get into the Master League?

A: Only the top 2% of active players in each region will be elevated to the Master League. Because the Diamond League accounts for 20% of all active players, even the #1 ranked player in your Diamond division may not necessarily be promoted to Master League. Our automated placement system compares your player skill to that of all players in your region by way of matches played, just as we do with the Top 200, to determine eligibility.


There is conflicting information later in the post that claims 2% of Diamond league, but this has to be a typo because it contradicts what we heard the design was for Master league at Blizzcon, which was to pull the top 1-2% per region from Diamond. Because Diamond covers the top 20% of active players, the top 2% would equal the top 10% of Diamond, and that's what the Master league is.
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politik
Profile Joined September 2010
409 Posts
January 12 2011 01:31 GMT
#46
Masters league is basically the new diamond, anyone can get in. (If you are active) Very disappointing.
Sonic114
Profile Joined August 2010
United States59 Posts
January 12 2011 01:32 GMT
#47
The bonus pool problem is fixed for me now.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 01:58:03
January 12 2011 01:36 GMT
#48
heh i went from like top 50 on NA to 470th from the point translation when bumped into Master league
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Cambam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States360 Posts
January 12 2011 01:40 GMT
#49
So do we have an idea of the approximate cutoff is for Masters? I know it's based on MMR, but what are the lowest ratings getting promoted?
SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
January 12 2011 01:41 GMT
#50
2% of active players is hardly "everyone".

But yeah, new thread: Guys, I am stuck on diamond, what should I do? Can I 4 gate my way into Master? :D

LA server have only 1 division so far. I am hoping we won't have much more than 1, cause I am hoping to someone at diamond be able to get into top 200, so we can do more maths ^^
Cambam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 02:01:37
January 12 2011 01:43 GMT
#51
On January 12 2011 10:36 Zelniq wrote:
heh i went from like top 50 on NA to 470th from the point translation when bumped into Master league. (I believe this is because of the weird system where for some reason every bonus point you've spent is now awarded to you again when going into master league. and because i've laddered more than almost anyone I know and gained very little bonus points since release, i got very little comparing to every other inactive player)

so instead of removing what is a retarded system (bonus pool), they doubled it, cool.

thanks for punishing the most active ladderers even more

I'm pretty sure everyone gets the same amount of bonus points, you were just spending them as soon as they came in. Best check with Excalibur_Z though.

P.S. I'm in your division! Go Zerg!
Cambam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 02:15:22
January 12 2011 01:48 GMT
#52
Interesting. Haven't played a game since I got promoted, but my bonus pool when looking at my division is 91, and 82 when looking at the multiplayer 1v1 searching for game screen.

UPDATE: Lost a match, now both say 82.
ibgeekn4me
Profile Joined April 2010
United States75 Posts
January 12 2011 01:48 GMT
#53
I am almost 2600 diamond and have yet do be promoted yet, I find this odd, most games are vs 2500-2600+ folks
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 01:57:27
January 12 2011 01:49 GMT
#54
edit: nvm i understand now why i was so confused by the system
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
politik
Profile Joined September 2010
409 Posts
January 12 2011 01:53 GMT
#55
^^ This is as wrong as can be, sorry. Everyone has the same amount of bonus points no matter what.
Refreshe
Profile Joined May 2010
United States141 Posts
January 12 2011 01:53 GMT
#56
im sorry if this was already answered, but will there be a limit of how many master league divisions that will be created? I'm pretty sure there will be since it's only top 2% of players?
skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
January 12 2011 01:53 GMT
#57
Had 2611 points and like 180 bonus, hand laddered in a while, won my first game, got +23 + 23 bonus and got promoted to master with 2162 points.
Its not only the rain that brings the thunder
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 01:55:44
January 12 2011 01:54 GMT
#58
haha zelniq ninja edited right when i hit "quote" ;D

ee han timin!


do i understand it right that the initial rating you get after promotion is related to bonus pool? so someone with 0 would be 2300 and someone with 600 would be 1700?
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KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
January 12 2011 01:56 GMT
#59
Masters league is basically the new diamond, anyone can get in. (If you are active) Very disappointing.


Really o.0 So if i just play like 10 games a day I'll get in masters eventually? kinda sounds dissappointing actually if you put it that way...
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
Coramoor
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada455 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 01:59:12
January 12 2011 01:57 GMT
#60
On January 12 2011 10:31 politik wrote:
Masters league is basically the new diamond, anyone can get in. (If you are active) Very disappointing.


i disagree with that to a degree, sure anybody could get into diamond, but masters league doesn't mean pro, it just means top players to the level of top 2%, do you really think your diamond player below the bonus pool mark, lets say 2000, is going to make the masters league without improving, right now it seems like it's around the 2600-2700 mark with bonus pool included
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