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On February 22 2011 20:18 Sandermatt wrote:
From SC2ranks.com it seems that about 450 points that do not come from the bonus pool are needed to advance to masters. There are very few active players with ore than that and a lot of active players between 400 and 450. This makes it seem to me that you can take this value as an indicator on when you will advance.
What do you mean by that? Most people would need less than 450 bonus pool to get promoted to master?
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Most people will need:
10 points for confidence.
63 points for moving average to get into the right average.
150 points for the league jump.
63 points for each tier he is bellow the first tier (S rank 63.0 = 0; A rank 63.1 = 63 etc).
The moving average is the one that is most difficult to give a number, but I think 63 is good enough for most players.
Edit: Ps: this is not a confirmed fact, just my hipothesys.
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Currently sitting at 3270 with 50 bonus pool. Facing mostly 2800~ masters right now. I'll let you know what happens.
Edit: 3.3k dia lol, this is getting silly
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On February 24 2011 12:18 Twistacles wrote:
Currently sitting at 3270 with 50 bonus pool. Facing mostly 2800~ masters right now. I'll let you know what happens.
Edit: 3.3k dia lol, this is getting silly
Ya... I see a lot of people (rank 1,2,3..etc diamond) with 1000+ wins and losses and still not being able to get promote to master due to their win/loss ratio..
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Hm, I was promoted to masters with ~600 bonus pool still, I often play 2800~ masters and am sitting at about 2300 going up
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On February 26 2011 02:49 pooopies wrote:
Hm, I was promoted to masters with ~600 bonus pool still, I often play 2800~ masters and am sitting at about 2300 going up
Nice.. Congrats... how many masters did you played before u got promoted? did you usually win against them?
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I got promoted to masters at 600 Diamond
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I just got promoted to masters, was at roughly 3330 Diamond and was bumped to 2909 Masters.
Division was UED Charlie
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I'm at 3100 diamond with 45 more wins than losses, surely that means masters is on the way? it's pretty annoying, though, I've been in the top 3 of my diamond division for 2 weeks or so now
I'm only playing like 2 games a day, so I guess I just have to play more until I am promoted?
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On February 26 2011 11:50 Jonas  wrote:I'm at 3100 diamond with 45 more wins than losses, surely that means masters is on the way? it's pretty annoying, though, I've been in the top 3 of my diamond division for 2 weeks or so now I'm only playing like 2 games a day, so I guess I just have to play more until I am promoted?
Yup. I've been top 1-4 Diamond for about 2 weeks and it refused to promote me
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So with the coming of grandmaster league, may i know what exactly determines top 200. It is said that it is just points. Is there an MMR cutoff? I have seen like the 5th player in a division get into the top 200 but not the 1-4 and i checked immediately after so it's not like he dropped afterwards or the other guy climbed.
And let's take this sea list.
http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/124093#blog
There are guys from diamond in there although sea has about 500 masters. Look at guy no 198
http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/143733/1/Saglornagain/
He is diamond and not like he was just demoted. He has been there since August and 2500 diamond. So chances are he is there because of his MMR? Because his points doesnt seem like it is high enough. And he has not played 1v1 Ladder since the list was released.
Sorry if this has been answered before. Tried my best but couldn't find it.
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Was at 3367 then got promoted to 2949 after next win
3367 was 1st highest active Diamond in NA and 5th highest in the world in points - bonus.
Hope that helps.
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I got promoted to masters at about 2000 points in diamond (about rank 18 in the division). I was relatively inactive since masters league was released with only about 100 games played total. I powered up to about 170 wins and 142 losses or something and it bumped me up to masters at about 2k points.
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Yea its points - bonus that matters, not points
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Excalibur_Z:
Do you think it will be harder and harder to get promoted to Master league (ie. when Master league was first introduced VS now)?
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On March 05 2011 00:57 Prissy wrote:
Excalibur_Z:
Do you think it will be harder and harder to get promoted to Master league (ie. when Master league was first introduced VS now)?
The requirements change based on who is playing the game. The people at the top tend to play the most (they devoted enough time to become the best, why stop there) whereas people near the bottom kind of fall inactive. So, I would say that unless patch 1.2 caused a large resurgence of activity in the lower leagues that continues even today, it will probably be tougher to get into Master league now than it was on Day 1.
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On March 05 2011 02:03 Excalibur_Z wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2011 00:57 Prissy wrote:
Excalibur_Z:
Do you think it will be harder and harder to get promoted to Master league (ie. when Master league was first introduced VS now)? The requirements change based on who is playing the game. The people at the top tend to play the most (they devoted enough time to become the best, why stop there) whereas people near the bottom kind of fall inactive. So, I would say that unless patch 1.2 caused a large resurgence of activity in the lower leagues that continues even today, it will probably be tougher to get into Master league now than it was on Day 1.
I think you are right about that... It feels like you need more wins (against better players) to get promoted.
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I see a lot of high diamond players not getting promoted at all, in my case, Ive been sitting at around 1.3-1.5k diamond 1 month + ago when I stopped playing. I came back a couple of days ago with 2000+ bonus pool, after 4-5 games I got instantly promoted to Masters (and no, it wasnt my first win of these games, maybe the 2nd or 3rd). Im not too sure how my promotion in Masters fits in the mechanism posted in the OP.
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I apologize if this is a bit off topic, but it does involve my quest to get into Master League!
(For the record I have read all of your documentation on League and promotions, Excalibur, well done!)
I am a 3,100 Diamond... most likely in a very low division tier. BNet seems quite sporadic in pairing me up vs people... it ranges from 1500 Diamond to 3,200 Diamond! It has not paired me vs Master League yet ... but the "Favored"/"Slightly Favored" doesn't seem to coincide with visible points (due to MMR). Is this because it does not have enough confidence in my ability vs higher skill levels? Perhaps my sigma is in a funk and still does not know my skill level for certain .
It seems to pair me up with ppl who have on-the-rise MMR and lower point totals... My win % is not stellar, 51.5%
I'd like to think that I'm Master League quality; however, I would also like to think that I'd need to be beating Master Leaguers in order for BNet to consider me worthy. I just fear it'll never pair me vs Master Leaguers. Is it because my win % isn't high enough?
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