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Not all Diamond players are active, go and look at NA Diamond with the activity filter set to "last month". You will notice that the number of pages of players drops from 542 to 271. On SEA it drops from 53 to 24. So really, only about half of all Diamond players even played a game in the last month.
Wow really. Hm ok now I see why they had that 1 placement match in after ladder resets... cus you can't be demoted until you play a game, and if you've not played a game you won't be demoted right? xD
Well, we're still missing about 1400 players then. I looked at the top Diamond and some players even included the likes of QXC. So hopefully the system is just slow to promote people?
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i was promoted almost immediately. this seems to be very easy to attain?
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On January 12 2011 12:32 muffley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 08:50 Excalibur_Z wrote:
League Population
Master league is believed to be the top 2% of all active players in a region, and is believed to cut away the top 10% of Diamond league. This would put the approximate league populations at 2%/18%/20%/20%/20%/20% for active players. I've seen these numbers quoted by Blizzard, and then by others through that. They are wrong. The numbers look more like this: us (as of yesterday) number of players with 1v1 league: 669340 bronze 290913 (43.46%) silver 120081 (17.94%) gold 113385 (16.94%) platinum 89941 (13.44%) diamond 55020 (8.22%) kr number of players with 1v1 league: 277789 bronze 121045 (43.57%) silver 61929 (22.29%) gold 45650 (16.43%) platinum 28025 (10.09%) diamond 21140 (7.61%) tw number of players with 1v1 league: 93615 bronze 42314 (45.20%) silver 19885 (21.24%) gold 15289 (16.33%) platinum 9641 (10.30%) diamond 6486 (6.93%) So like 8%/11%/16%/21%/44% without the master league.
Active players is the key phrase here. SC2Ranks only has data for ALL players. You'll notice that the numbers are much closer with the activity filter set to 7 days, for example.
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Hey can anyone explain why im always playing against favoured ppl? Its like when you first start playing...
The only explanation is your MMR is being recalculated or something? Im really not sure..
Seems like its the same thing for everyone in masters
edit: also why cant I find myself in sc2 ranks 
username: Sircrayon
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Rankings are not awarding properly for Master League
We are looking into an issue with rankings and point awards in Master League and should have a resolution as soon as possible. We are again sorry for any inconvenience this has caused
Oops didn't read this, stupid me. Sorry about my previous posts haha.
@CrayonKing you should read the thread about MMR, it'll inform you a lot. Just to be brief here, it means that you are improving and possibly will be promoted if you improve enough.
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Is there a player cap for Masters league? If so how do new ppl enter?
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On January 12 2011 12:42 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Yeah ok I checked and compared several friends of mine who are almost semi-pro status, and one of them who is better than the others is still in Diamond, so yeah I guess the system is waiting for more people to be "ready" to be promoted before creating divisions...
A division with only 3 players hasn't been a problem before, it won't be a problem now.
Did your "pro" friends actually won a game at least?
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On January 12 2011 12:49 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Show nested quote +Not all Diamond players are active, go and look at NA Diamond with the activity filter set to "last month". You will notice that the number of pages of players drops from 542 to 271. On SEA it drops from 53 to 24. So really, only about half of all Diamond players even played a game in the last month. Wow really. Hm ok now I see why they had that 1 placement match in after ladder resets... cus you can't be demoted until you play a game, and if you've not played a game you won't be demoted right? xD Well, we're still missing about 1400 players then. I looked at the top Diamond and some players even included the likes of QXC. So hopefully the system is just slow to promote people?
you need to play one game at least to get placed
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Only 1900 pts gets you into Master league? That's basically a joke as any noob can get in. Many 1900 diamond players are worse than plat players.
Anyway, at least this thing will get rid of the division modifiers.
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On January 12 2011 14:03 vnlegend wrote:
Only 1900 pts gets you into Master league? That's basically a joke as any noob can get in. Many 1900 diamond players are worse than plat players.
Anyway, at least this thing will get rid of the division modifiers.
Damnit, read the post. It depends on your MMR. There's people with 27-12 records getting into Master League.
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On January 12 2011 14:03 vnlegend wrote:
Only 1900 pts gets you into Master league? That's basically a joke as any noob can get in. Many 1900 diamond players are worse than plat players.
Anyway, at least this thing will get rid of the division modifiers.
You're looking at it in the wrong way.
It's NOT about points, it is about MMR.
This one 1900 guy is fine, the avarege 2300 diamond will not get into master.
Don't worry, the system is fine.
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A division with only 3 players hasn't been a problem before, it won't be a problem now.
Did your "pro" friends actually won a game at least?
Hm but those divisions fill up really soon don't they? So may be they do "wait" until there are 100 people ready, and then try to promote them as quickly as possible so that the division fills as if they all promoted at the same time.
Anyways yes they have, ofc  . And it probably sounded nooby when i said my almost semi- pro friends, I mean really good players that are part of teams/clans that I have tried out with, that are high on the ladder (top 1000 at least on NA).
you need to play one game at least to get placed
Yea i know
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Is it just me or does anyone else think the Master League star badge is fugly? It almost looks like some kind of amateur photoshop work.
Cmon Blizzard, this is the most badass league. Give it the coolest badge.
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On January 12 2011 14:03 vnlegend wrote:
Only 1900 pts gets you into Master league? That's basically a joke as any noob can get in.
My displayed rating was below 1200 when I got promoted to the Master league.
sorry for being a newb
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On January 12 2011 14:03 vnlegend wrote:
Only 1900 pts gets you into Master league? That's basically a joke as any noob can get in. Many 1900 diamond players are worse than plat players.
Anyway, at least this thing will get rid of the division modifiers.
Learn to read, its MMR, not displayed rating. Those 1900 pt players you're talking about? They're consistently playing 2.8k players. Hence why they got promoted.
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It's what Blizz has created ;
mindless noobies who thinks ladder point > MMR
I still don't get why master league isn't one global ranking that only shows MMR and reset every month or so. Isn't it what every player that get there wants?
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On January 12 2011 14:30 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 14:03 vnlegend wrote:
Only 1900 pts gets you into Master league? That's basically a joke as any noob can get in. My displayed rating was below 1200 when I got promoted to the Master league. sorry for being a newb
Epic 5000th post 
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A 1200 guy with 2900mmr with like 40 games will be a joke to play against while a guy who's 2600 with 1000 games played will be a much more difficult opponent as over the course of 1000 games, you'd expect that guy to have decent builds and experience to back it up.
Aside from smurfs, most of these low-games players aren't that good and shouldn't be promoted to begin with.
At 2900 my last game was against a 1700 low # of games player who in TvT tried to 2rax marine+scv allin me. I built a bunker and he left the game. That's a master right there!
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A 1200 guy with 2900mmr with like 40 games will be a joke to play against while a guy who's 2600 with 1000 games played will be a much more difficult opponent as over the course of 1000 games, you'd expect that guy to have decent builds and experience to back it up.
Not always, but generally yes I do agree with you. A silver player I played with, who had like 500+ games, felt like a 2400 ish Diamond player. But may be that was just cus his macro was good but his decision making suffered. Either way yeah xD
Also, I don't see how you can be sure that "most" of those players aren't "that good". If a player has played 50 games, and has a winrate of about 80%, that seems good enough to me. Because most likely he has been matched up with at least 2500+ diamond player, and likely around 3000 once he hits 50 ames.
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^^ truth.
This is what's going to happen. The low game players never actually 1v1 alot, they just got on today simply to get to masters. After doing so they aren't going to play 1's ever again. They simply want the icon only. Statistically, the more you play, the lower your win ratio should become. It's just math, you HAVE to lose games sometime. I also think a 2.5k player with a 400-350 ratio should be more deserving than a 1.2k w/ bonus pool with a 25-10 ratio or whatever. For all I know that 25-10 could drop to a 400-400 by the time he gets to the number of games.
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