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Kaoriyu
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada276 Posts
January 12 2011 06:12 GMT
#121
This is strange, I'm 1800 rating but in ladder I always go up against 2400-2700 players. I won 4 games today and lost 4. Is my MMR not high enough?
ktimekiller
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States690 Posts
January 12 2011 06:30 GMT
#122
The number doesn't translate across divisions, so likely that you are not high enough
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 06:33:12
January 12 2011 06:31 GMT
#123
grr

was gold and have a pretty high mmr, routinely playing and beating 2500 diamonds (29-9)

i thought i was gonna go straight into diamond, and then into masters, but i was promoted to platinum. my mmr still hasnt settled yet since i am winning pretty much all my games, maybe thats why

unrealistic wish but yah o wells
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
January 12 2011 07:47 GMT
#124
On January 12 2011 15:12 Kaoriyu wrote:
This is strange, I'm 1800 rating but in ladder I always go up against 2400-2700 players. I won 4 games today and lost 4. Is my MMR not high enough?

On my second account I was 1600 and my first win today got me into Masters, so likely you are not high enough.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
Onean
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom38 Posts
January 12 2011 07:49 GMT
#125
Does anyone know yet, whether or not master league divisions are also A-Rank/B-rank with 63x modifiers? Would be a shame if it were.
I'm not even going to dignify that with a troll.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 12 2011 08:03 GMT
#126
My only question is this: Will needs be constantly added or is this a locked number that Blizzard has in mind and people will constantly be shifted from Diamond to Master's.

To reiterate: will there be, for example, 5 Master's Ranked Leagues and if you no longer qualify, you will be demoted to Diamond and someone will take your spot immediately?

My question might sound like what we currently have with other leagues, but perhaps more strict or just more competitive.

Thanks.
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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 09:02:35
January 12 2011 08:47 GMT
#127
According to sc2ranks, there is 2078 Master league players. This seems to equate to around 10% of the active Diamonds.

EDIT: Ah, it's confirmed that it's 10% of active Diamonds. Master's league contains the top 2% of the region.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2053471#blog
Sky0
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States214 Posts
January 12 2011 08:59 GMT
#128
i was around 2760ish rating b4 i got promoted. i dropped to around 2330. And all the higher ranked people are ranked below me some above me
"We are not retreating, we are advancing in another direction"
KevinAce
Profile Joined May 2010
United States101 Posts
January 12 2011 09:00 GMT
#129
I was ~2800 diamond. Just played 1 game and won on 1.2. Now I'm Masters but ~2300 points.
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Greyhawk
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia110 Posts
January 12 2011 09:03 GMT
#130
Hey quick question.. what does it mean if i have a 2.1k bonus pool? O_O
ShoCk-
KevinAce
Profile Joined May 2010
United States101 Posts
January 12 2011 09:14 GMT
#131
On January 12 2011 08:50 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Rating Change
Consistently, we are seeing that people promoted into Master league are assigned new ratings equal to 73 + spent bonus pool. There is no point translation as was found in lower leagues.

Any idea why Blizzard went with this approach? It's a bit strange to go from 2900 to 2300. If I'm 2300, then that means I've used up 2227 bonus pool points?

It seems as if this is basically to mitigate the power of the bonus pool since you're only getting credit once for the points (not the win + bonus pool). Am I correct?
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Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
January 12 2011 09:23 GMT
#132
On January 12 2011 15:31 akalarry wrote:
grr

was gold and have a pretty high mmr, routinely playing and beating 2500 diamonds (29-9)

i thought i was gonna go straight into diamond, and then into masters, but i was promoted to platinum. my mmr still hasnt settled yet since i am winning pretty much all my games, maybe thats why

unrealistic wish but yah o wells

Actually, as far as I know, the system doesn't promote you into platinum when it's likely you'll end up in diamond. It waits until it's fairly certain and then it promotes you where it thinks you belong.
Teivospylol
Profile Joined September 2010
Djibouti47 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 09:26:35
January 12 2011 09:25 GMT
#133
On January 12 2011 15:06 rysecake wrote:
^^ truth.
This is what's going to happen. The low game players never actually 1v1 alot, they just got on today simply to get to masters. After doing so they aren't going to play 1's ever again. They simply want the icon only. Statistically, the more you play, the lower your win ratio should become. It's just math, you HAVE to lose games sometime. I also think a 2.5k player with a 400-350 ratio should be more deserving than a 1.2k w/ bonus pool with a 25-10 ratio or whatever. For all I know that 25-10 could drop to a 400-400 by the time he gets to the number of games.


for all you know you're actually worse than 1.2k w/ bonus pool with a 25-10 ratio and you're just whining

the system is fine, it works off MMR not ladder rating (all ladder rating means is that you've played a lot of games, it doesn't mean you're skilled at all) and you're just mad because people you think are worse than you are getting that icon ^>^

Ji
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
January 12 2011 09:26 GMT
#134
On January 12 2011 18:03 Greyhawk wrote:
Hey quick question.. what does it mean if i have a 2.1k bonus pool? O_O


It means that:
a) you haven't played much games
b) you lack the skill of reading this thread

On topic: I'm a more or less borderline EU-case (1270 points, 1200 bonus pool; matched up against 2500-2700 in my recent games). I would really appreciate it if people who got promoted in EU and are rather "low" could report their points. Although I obviously realize it's based on MMR, since this isn't visible, I'd love to know the "average points-cap" for the EU-region (bonus pool added for obvious reasons).
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
YerknYass
Profile Joined January 2011
United States33 Posts
January 12 2011 09:31 GMT
#135
I am ~2750 Diamond, have won like 5 games in a row--still no master O.O

damn you MMR!
I'm blowin' up like you thought I would, Call the crib, same numba' same hood, it's all good- B.I.G.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 12 2011 09:33 GMT
#136
On January 12 2011 18:26 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 18:03 Greyhawk wrote:
Hey quick question.. what does it mean if i have a 2.1k bonus pool? O_O


It means that:
a) you haven't played much games
b) you lack the skill of reading this thread

On topic: I'm a more or less borderline EU-case (1270 points, 1200 bonus pool; matched up against 2500-2700 in my recent games). I would really appreciate it if people who got promoted in EU and are rather "low" could report their points. Although I obviously realize it's based on MMR, since this isn't visible, I'd love to know the "average points-cap" for the EU-region (bonus pool added for obvious reasons).

While it's not EU, I know infinity21 got promoted with only about 1800
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
frozt_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States234 Posts
January 12 2011 09:35 GMT
#137
On January 12 2011 08:55 mrdx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 08:50 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Relative Division Strength
All Master divisions are equal in rank. There are no division tiers as we observed in lower leagues

How do you know? I thought we needed the official top 200 from Blizzard to work that out, and there hasn't been any top 200 post from Blizzard since 1.2.0.

Edit: fix quote

The grand master league will be the top 200, The master league is top 2% in diamond in your region. It has a lot of bugs because some people who have only 1000 points and less are getting into it. I hope they get it all sorted out though so ladder can have stable rankings
Practice and dedication reveals the greatness within a player
frozt_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States234 Posts
January 12 2011 09:38 GMT
#138
On January 12 2011 15:12 Kaoriyu wrote:
This is strange, I'm 1800 rating but in ladder I always go up against 2400-2700 players. I won 4 games today and lost 4. Is my MMR not high enough?

Im the same except 2000 and playing against 2700+, This is due to your MMR being the same level as the players who you are playing against.
Practice and dedication reveals the greatness within a player
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 09:41:37
January 12 2011 09:40 GMT
#139
On January 12 2011 18:35 frozt_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 08:55 mrdx wrote:
On January 12 2011 08:50 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Relative Division Strength
All Master divisions are equal in rank. There are no division tiers as we observed in lower leagues

How do you know? I thought we needed the official top 200 from Blizzard to work that out, and there hasn't been any top 200 post from Blizzard since 1.2.0.

Edit: fix quote

The grand master league will be the top 200, The master league is top 2% in diamond in your region. It has a lot of bugs because some people who have only 1000 points and less are getting into it. I hope they get it all sorted out though so ladder can have stable rankings


but those with 1k points who were promoted prolly have massive bonus pool and an MMR mich higher than their points.

Promotion is based on MMR and not points.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
HellfireSamurai
Profile Joined July 2010
United States9 Posts
January 12 2011 09:43 GMT
#140
Is it just me or is Blizz being very ambiguous about what the cutoff exactly is?

From the link http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2053471#blog:

"Q: How do I get into the Master League?

A: Only the top 2% of active players in each region will be elevated to the Master League."

OR

"Q: Will the Master League start with the launch of the patch?

A: The top 2% of players from the Diamond League..."

There's a pretty significant difference between top 2% in the region (which, as others have said, amounts to ~top 10% in Diamond), and top 2% in Diamond. Does anyone know which it is?
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