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serA
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
42 Posts
January 12 2011 15:13 GMT
#161
I really know its a hassle sometimes to read every page and all the conversations, but sometimes people look like total idiots for the things they post because they dont. It has been iterated countless times.

-it is 2% of the ENTIRE regions (diamond may only be 8% on sc2ranks. but it is ACTIVE players) (think about all the bronze players that are inactive compared to the more active/competitive diamond player hence the huge difference between 8% total to 20% active in diamond and 40% total to 20% active in bronze)

someone confirmed that aronud 2,000 players are in masters league. that means that it is roughly around 2% or 10% of diamond (like the above poster said, .20(20%indiamond) x .1(10%ofdiamond) = .02(2%overall)

I think it is more like 2500 people get into masters but it only has been 1 day so people still havent played etc. so it looks about right. I think on threads like this, you should really read through all the conversations because it really sheds light on everything and prevents people from looking really dumb by stating something that has been proven wrong the page right before it ^^. Cheers.
serA
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
42 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 15:19:12
January 12 2011 15:16 GMT
#162
On January 12 2011 23:59 jarod wrote:
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On January 12 2011 23:05 clickrush wrote:
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On January 12 2011 19:27 jarod wrote:
Guys.. Diamond means top 7 8 % from the populations.. 10% from Diamond will mean 0,7 - 0,8 % off all players not 2%. There is a big difference. Anyhow around 1% will be Masters and this is ok like this.


No. Diamond is the top 20% (-masters league) from all active players.


You sure ?

http://sc2ranks.com/stats/league/all/1/all

It's far from top 20% and how does the system count in active or inactive accounts...


The system cannot count inactive or active accounts or even if it is counting this doesn't affect anything. And btw.. where do you see this, give a link, that diamond is top 20%.. I give a really good link with the 7-8%, please prove that diamond is top 20%...


filter sc2ranks.....for the past 7 days active.....youll get a good decent number....please stop trying to argue whats been proven wrong several times in the thread -0-

edit: who knows what kind of system blizzard uses but i think sc2ranks counts people as active even if they play 1 game. so it shows the very last game they played. I think there was a system before where people who played 5 games? got beta keys? maybe im wrong but blizzard might use another system. so who knows.
http://sc2ranks.com/stats/league/us/1/all/7

may not be perfect. but random bronze players play games every once in awhile so its almost impossible to keep a perfect ratio.
zDUST
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland165 Posts
January 12 2011 15:17 GMT
#163
here's the link for each division being 20% active players..

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/1690172#blog

Q: How do I get into the Master League?
A: Only the top 2% of active players in each region will be elevated to the Master League. Because the Diamond League accounts for 20% of all active players, even the #1 ranked player in your Diamond division may not necessarily be promoted to Master League. Our automated placement system compares your player skill to that of all players in your region by way of matches played, just as we do with the Top 200, to determine eligibility.
Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
January 12 2011 15:20 GMT
#164
I just got promoted to masters league after going 1-4 with like 60 games overall.So 2% you wish,master league is just the new diamond. After a few more patches we are going to have like 10 different categories when they could simply remove the bonus pool ladder is so weird
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
January 12 2011 15:24 GMT
#165
On January 13 2011 00:13 serA wrote:
I really know its a hassle sometimes to read every page and all the conversations, but sometimes people look like total idiots for the things they post because they dont. It has been iterated countless times.

-it is 2% of the ENTIRE regions (diamond may only be 8% on sc2ranks. but it is ACTIVE players) (think about all the bronze players that are inactive compared to the more active/competitive diamond player hence the huge difference between 8% total to 20% active in diamond and 40% total to 20% active in bronze)

someone confirmed that aronud 2,000 players are in masters league. that means that it is roughly around 2% or 10% of diamond (like the above poster said, .20(20%indiamond) x .1(10%ofdiamond) = .02(2%overall)

I think it is more like 2500 people get into masters but it only has been 1 day so people still havent played etc. so it looks about right. I think on threads like this, you should really read through all the conversations because it really sheds light on everything and prevents people from looking really dumb by stating something that has been proven wrong the page right before it ^^. Cheers.


Okay so why does it specifically say top 2% in your active region on the Blizzard announcement? They are misleading?

Q: How do I get into the Master League?

A: Only the top 2% of active players in each region will be elevated to the Master League. Because the Diamond League accounts for 20% of all active players, even the #1 ranked player in your Diamond division may not necessarily be promoted to Master League. Our automated placement system compares your player skill to that of all players in your region by way of matches played, just as we do with the Top 200, to determine eligibility.
http://shroomspiration.blogspot.com/
SeakayKu
Profile Joined October 2010
United States128 Posts
January 12 2011 15:25 GMT
#166
2993 diamond @ defiler foxtrot, bonus pool at 10
qued, versus even opponent
won the game, gave me +12 for winning and +10 bonus
promoted into master league at 2351 points
no bonus pool
won another game, +22 points, now sitting at 2373
is this helpful?
It's an Art and I hope I can see beautifully fought matches.
Lipski
Profile Joined October 2010
Poland373 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 15:36:02
January 12 2011 15:32 GMT
#167
i just HAVE to post this.
i just got promoted to masters league, and im in division with TLO and Socke and ClouD.
I AM THE MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE
"i'll just train hard and win the next one"
iamcup
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland58 Posts
January 12 2011 15:38 GMT
#168
I just played one game and got promoted to masters has that happened to anyone else?
CrayonKing
Profile Joined August 2010
Cambodia124 Posts
January 12 2011 15:40 GMT
#169
On January 13 2011 00:38 iamcup wrote:
I just played one game and got promoted to masters has that happened to anyone else?


LOL are you being serious? I really suggest you reading one of posts before asking a question like this
MGHova
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada274 Posts
January 12 2011 15:55 GMT
#170
Great job excaliber thanks for always doing this .

I went from 2826 diamond s class to 2306 masters. I dropped from 2950 in one night before the patch. Not sure if that effected my masters points...... Actually if I'm not mistaken is it your points that determine your points in masters and just mmr to get into masters league.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
January 12 2011 15:55 GMT
#171
On January 12 2011 18:33 Plexa wrote:
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On January 12 2011 18:26 sleepingdog wrote:
On January 12 2011 18:03 Greyhawk wrote:
Hey quick question.. what does it mean if i have a 2.1k bonus pool? O_O


It means that:
a) you haven't played much games
b) you lack the skill of reading this thread

On topic: I'm a more or less borderline EU-case (1270 points, 1200 bonus pool; matched up against 2500-2700 in my recent games). I would really appreciate it if people who got promoted in EU and are rather "low" could report their points. Although I obviously realize it's based on MMR, since this isn't visible, I'd love to know the "average points-cap" for the EU-region (bonus pool added for obvious reasons).

While it's not EU, I know infinity21 got promoted with only about 1800

I also had 1.1k+ bonus pool lol
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Nokarot
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 16:33:13
January 12 2011 16:23 GMT
#172
Yeahhhh.. I'm on the US, haven't played in months. My bonus pool has 1500 unspent. I just played one singular game and got promoted to Masters. Rest assured, I am not in the top 2% of America.

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Macpo
Profile Joined September 2010
453 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 16:45:26
January 12 2011 16:34 GMT
#173
I am the saddest player in the world: 2.7k on the Eu server and didn't promote... shall I hang myself with an ethernet wire, or swallow a mouse cut into pieces?
"Courage consists, however, in agreeing to flee rather than live tranquilly and hypocritically in false refuges." G. Deleuze
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
January 12 2011 16:46 GMT
#174
I was 1750 diamond with 1k bonus and i promoted winning a game and have 1327 points atm
skipdog172
Profile Joined June 2010
United States331 Posts
January 12 2011 16:50 GMT
#175
On January 12 2011 10:31 politik wrote:
Masters league is basically the new diamond, anyone can get in. (If you are active) Very disappointing.


What are you talking about? Stop with the elitism. I haven't seen anybody post who isn't deserving of Master League. I'm a 2200 diamond who has been working hard on improving, and I won't get in "just by being active". I have to improve my game a lot. I'm so sick of comments like this.
skipdog172
Profile Joined June 2010
United States331 Posts
January 12 2011 16:52 GMT
#176
On January 13 2011 00:20 Coulthard wrote:
I just got promoted to masters league after going 1-4 with like 60 games overall.So 2% you wish,master league is just the new diamond. After a few more patches we are going to have like 10 different categories when they could simply remove the bonus pool ladder is so weird


Clearly your hidden MMR is probably in the 2700+ range. Promotion isn't based on winrate and it doesn't care how many games you've played. It cares about your hidden MMR and 60 games is enough to show the system that you are on even footing with players in the 2700+ diamond range and thus deserve the promotion.
politik
Profile Joined September 2010
409 Posts
January 12 2011 17:06 GMT
#177
On January 13 2011 01:50 skipdog172 wrote:

What are you talking about? Stop with the elitism. I haven't seen anybody post who isn't deserving of Master League. I'm a 2200 diamond who has been working hard on improving, and I won't get in "just by being active". I have to improve my game a lot. I'm so sick of comments like this.


Lol elitist, I wish. I consider myself very mediocre at this game, especially solo. I thought master's league would be elite players, semipro or just below. If someone like me can get into master's it means nothing at all.
cHaNg-sTa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1058 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 17:08:44
January 12 2011 17:07 GMT
#178
Someone with 1200 points who hasn't played in awhile got promoted to Masters... this is just dumb.
Jaedong <3 HOOK'EM HORNS!
vizir
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland154 Posts
January 12 2011 17:21 GMT
#179
On January 13 2011 02:06 politik wrote:
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On January 13 2011 01:50 skipdog172 wrote:

What are you talking about? Stop with the elitism. I haven't seen anybody post who isn't deserving of Master League. I'm a 2200 diamond who has been working hard on improving, and I won't get in "just by being active". I have to improve my game a lot. I'm so sick of comments like this.


Lol elitist, I wish. I consider myself very mediocre at this game, especially solo. I thought master's league would be elite players, semipro or just below. If someone like me can get into master's it means nothing at all.


yeaah.. kinda same feelings here. It would've been cooler if you actually had to know how to play in order to get into Master. I haven't been playing much sc2 lately and thought it would be nice new goal to try get into Master league. Lost 3 games, won 1, got promoted to Master --> back to WoW. No skills needed.
Jin
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Canada439 Posts
January 12 2011 17:22 GMT
#180
1500 diamond.... 1k or 2k+ bonus pool, havent played in a long time, got in with masters with 1 game
^-^v
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