Need Your Help/Advice

On May 27 2025 20:08 jodljodl wrote:
Wow. Just watching your video I learned so much:

Time is heavy. pow!
Training my brain to see like an "artist" makes me POWERFUL. pow!
How to reference the same study twice. pow!
How to say random shit and make it look like a study actually found proof of it when it didn't. pow!
There's an artistic muscle. pow!
How to leave out the little word mild when quoting the timemagazine . pow!
A cool story about god. pow!

Niice. I wanna join up. I think a fair price would be maybe 100$ a month? or 200$? Or maybe don't charge anything at all since you're totally no business even though google thinks otherwise. Or maybe you're not asking for anything at all because you as an artist, as a philanthropist, you don't want to raise the hurdle of going through the metaphorical door you mentioned, do you?

lol thanks for sharing though & have a nice one


Edit: Oh I totally forgot. Seems like your speciality is dogs, isn't it? Every and each one of them on your page looks like a masterpiece. Mindblowingly good

Edit: Oh I totally forgot. Seems like your speciality is dogs, isn't it? Every and each one of them on your page looks like a masterpiece. Mindblowingly good

On May 28 2025 20:33 pebble444 wrote:
So first of all, when I was reading your text description in the Original OP, I did not understand almost anything about what this was about. After I watched your video, however, everything became clear, as it’s well structured, engaging, and you clearly state things; so there is some discrepancy between text and video. I suggest you use AI to build written presentations and place them where they need to go. The videos are fine and you are doing a great job with them, no need for help there.
I asked the AI to write an introductive paragraph explaining what you are offering as setting a price tag of 10 dollars a month as an example per person, to give you an example of using AI to structure descriptions:

Here's a more coherent description of your subscription offering:

**Glider's Premium Art Community - $10/month per person**

Building on 20 years of professional art experience, I'm launching a premium subscription community to complement my existing free art school on Skool. While my free community provides foundational video lessons and book resources for learning to draw, this premium tier offers direct, interactive instruction and personalized guidance.

**What's Included*
- Weekly live workshop sessions with follow-along instruction
- Regular personalized feedback on your artwork submissions
- Expanded curriculum covering advanced techniques like oil painting
- Direct interaction and mentorship from me during live sessions
- Access to a focused community of serious art students

**The Value Proposition*
The free community teaches you *how* to draw through self-paced resources. The premium community provides *live coaching* where I work directly with you, critique your progress, and guide your artistic development in real-time.

At $10/month, this pricing strikes a balance between accessibility and sustainability. Rather than maximizing short-term revenue, this price point focuses on building a substantial, engaged community over the long term - prioritizing member count and retention over the next 6 months to 3 years.

The large addressable market for art education, combined with the proven demand from your free community, suggests this premium offering can grow into a significant, sustainable business while remaining affordable for aspiring artists.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

As far as what you should actually charge, I have no idea. I see that on twitch, people do it for free, but yours is a stronger project with a bigger vision and intention, on twitch they are mostly drawing themselves and vibing.

On YouTube there are lots of art tutorials as well, again for free. Not sure that, again, those are similar projects as yours;
Here are some ideas you might “draw” on for inspiration:

-real life drawing classes for complete novices.
-zoom video live classes for novices.
-setting up YouTube channel and twitch channel to share what you do, meet people, draw people in, continue growing the community.
The video and real life classes you can charge, on twitch you can accept subscriptions, you could also set up a patreon

On May 30 2025 02:14 WombaT wrote:
Been a fan forever despite my artistic incompetence. My partner insists I can draw if I try, despite how 35 years to the contrary. So maybe I have to give it a go with your free tier one of these days!

She actually linked me to one of your vids once, and I was like ‘hey it’s Gilder from TL!’ Small world.

The price point, I assume you’ve asked your own community, it feels a tricky one. It sorta sits a little awkwardly. A StarCraft coaching session, or a guitar lesson you’ve that 1-1 attention, and a lot of people already do that so there’s a vague market rate there.

Asked me partner what she thinks as art is more her world, I’m to get some more in-depth feedback as to her thoughts if that helps

On May 31 2025 19:41 Peeano wrote:
Since you didn't get much response yet... The no-brainer is to ask more than what you need.

What is the alternative?
How much will you make?
How much do you enjoy teaching vs how much do you like to make money?

Ask yourself those questions. Don't shoot yourself in the foot with an attractive low price, because future inflation and expectations will kick your ass. Asking a bit more than you think is feasible can motivate (or stress) you. Also avoiding a low price should keep away those people who are impulsive or pushed to rather than serious.

Source: I've taught piano for years, started with a price too low, and know well about students that are not really serious about putting in some effort to learn. I never figured out how I could fix that, and it killed the fun to teach as the money compensation was barely even worth it. Milking a lazy student is never fun, but it's much less bad if it pays the bills and a little extra.