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On January 13 2011 01:34 Macpo wrote: I am the saddest player in the world: 2.7k on the Eu server and didn't promote... shall I hang myself with an ethernet wire, or swallow a mouse cut into pieces?
Mouse cut into pieces imo
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I'm currently 2344 point Diamond with 289 bonus pool. I'm now rank 4 Diamond, I was rank 12 2 days ago and the highest rated player in my division was 2850 points, 8 players have advanced from above me.
So I'd say I'm just below the cutoff for now.
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Its not about points its about MMR.
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On January 13 2011 03:37 CrayonKing wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2011 03:34 Excalibur_Z wrote:On January 13 2011 03:14 decaf wrote: Do you already know how many masters leagues there are going to be for each region, excalibur? Divisions, you mean? It's going to depend on how many players resume playing as a result of the patch. I'd estimate 16-20 divisions to start on the NA server, then slowly trickling out from there as either more Master players go inactive or more players in the lower leagues come back from inactive status. Why would it trikle out? because the amount of active players decreas? therefores 2% of population decreases?
In theory you would hit the limit of people in a league. It's supposed to be 2%, but who knows with Blizzard. Will see in a few days I'd imagine.
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On January 13 2011 03:42 decaf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2011 03:34 Excalibur_Z wrote:On January 13 2011 03:14 decaf wrote: Do you already know how many masters leagues there are going to be for each region, excalibur? Divisions, you mean? It's going to depend on how many players resume playing as a result of the patch. I'd estimate 16-20 divisions to start on the NA server, then slowly trickling out from there as either more Master players go inactive or more players in the lower leagues come back from inactive status. Yeah divisions.. didn't get much to sleep for days now.. There are already 25 divisions for the US (if you check sc2ranks) and 16 for the EU, but I kinda don't think that's gonna be as high as it will get, but the ratio (25 : 16) will remain the same. It's cool to have a league only including so few divisions. But I think even the masters league needs modifiers and it may very well have, because I'm in the same division as mondragon and a friend of mine (who's better than me) is in the same division as WhiteRa and another one (who's better too) got Madfrog. So there might be a modifier, dunno though.
I'm still not seeing any evidence of modifiers for Master league, they still seem to be popping up only one division at a time (sc2ranks isn't the most accurate source for this because divisions aren't all updated simultaneously). Inevitably what we'll see is those very good players start separating themselves from the pack, just as what happened with Diamond league only to a more obvious degree.
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On January 13 2011 03:52 Jpk wrote: Its not about points its about MMR. But I normally play vs 2700-3000 players and have only 300 games played, I'd imagine my MMR to be higher than the points if anything.
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my friend at 1800 got promoted
its MMR not ladder points that'll get u into masters, so win more than you lose and you'll get there
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On January 13 2011 01:34 Macpo wrote: I am the saddest player in the world: 2.7k on the Eu server and didn't promote... shall I hang myself with an ethernet wire, or swallow a mouse cut into pieces?
Hah I'm the same. 2700 point and 2 people below me in my division got promoted. but I went 0-5 when I logged on yesterday.
oops.
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Yeah I just got promoted from around 1000 points. Now I'm at the bottom of my master's with a giant bonus pool
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Was ranked #2 in my shitty Diamond division last night -- got promoted after going 7-2 at 2765 pts (0 bonus pool).
I am now ranked 33rd in Master division Ehlna Chi at 2331 pts (no games played since promotion). So I lost 434 points and I had no bonus pool. Not sure if that info is helpful Excalibur, but just wanted to throw it out there.
ppgBubbles and NrGMalice in my division. :D
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On January 13 2011 04:11 optical630 wrote: my friend at 1800 got promoted
its MMR not ladder points that'll get u into masters, so win more than you lose and you'll get there I'm 184-155, 54.2% ratio. I've gone 5-0 today, still no promotion. =S
Aah, the first 4 games were against 2500-2700 diamonds, but the fifth one was against a master. Sighity sigh, maybe I just need to win more against masters. Though this guy in Masters is 144-133, way worse ratio than me. >< Sigh I'm irritated.
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I keep getting matched up against Master league players and winning, yet no promotion. I guess I don't understand the promotion system.
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On January 13 2011 04:21 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2011 04:11 optical630 wrote: my friend at 1800 got promoted
its MMR not ladder points that'll get u into masters, so win more than you lose and you'll get there I'm 184-155, 54.2% ratio. I've gone 5-0 today, still no promotion. =S Aah, the first 4 games were against 2500-2700 diamonds, but the fifth one was against a master. Sighity sigh, maybe I just need to win more against masters. Though this guy in Masters is 144-133, way worse ratio than me. >< Sigh I'm irritated. You'll be always master in my eyes buddy!:D
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On January 13 2011 04:00 Excalibur_Z wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2011 03:42 decaf wrote:On January 13 2011 03:34 Excalibur_Z wrote:On January 13 2011 03:14 decaf wrote: Do you already know how many masters leagues there are going to be for each region, excalibur? Divisions, you mean? It's going to depend on how many players resume playing as a result of the patch. I'd estimate 16-20 divisions to start on the NA server, then slowly trickling out from there as either more Master players go inactive or more players in the lower leagues come back from inactive status. Yeah divisions.. didn't get much to sleep for days now.. There are already 25 divisions for the US (if you check sc2ranks) and 16 for the EU, but I kinda don't think that's gonna be as high as it will get, but the ratio (25 : 16) will remain the same. It's cool to have a league only including so few divisions. But I think even the masters league needs modifiers and it may very well have, because I'm in the same division as mondragon and a friend of mine (who's better than me) is in the same division as WhiteRa and another one (who's better too) got Madfrog. So there might be a modifier, dunno though. I'm still not seeing any evidence of modifiers for Master league, they still seem to be popping up only one division at a time (sc2ranks isn't the most accurate source for this because divisions aren't all updated simultaneously). Inevitably what we'll see is those very good players start separating themselves from the pack, just as what happened with Diamond league only to a more obvious degree.
I don't see the pros seperating from the non-pros division-wise. I don't know how it looks like in NA but in the EU the pros are WAY more spread out now. They used to be in like 2 division, now there are 0-3 pros per division (most commonly there will be one well-known pro per division)
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2.7k on EU not premoted yet despite going 5-2 i guess ill just have to duke it out some more, its really wierd that im smashing the faces of 2300 masters players yet im slightly favored and in diamond still D:
The waiting game begins! Master by the weekend ftw!
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On January 13 2011 04:21 IPA wrote: Was ranked #2 in my shitty Diamond division last night -- got promoted after going 7-2 at 2765 pts (0 bonus pool).
I am now ranked 33rd in Master division Ehlna Chi at 2331 pts (no games played since promotion). So I lost 434 points and I had no bonus pool. Not sure if that info is helpful Excalibur, but just wanted to throw it out there.
ppgBubbles and NrGMalice in my division. :D
Biggest reason why Master League is AWESOME right here.
Went from being #2 and having no hope of ever hitting #1 (he was ~300-400pts ahead of me at any given time) to ~35 in Master. My division once again matters to me, and I can look at my rank to see if I am improving on a daily basis.
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On January 13 2011 04:30 decaf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2011 04:00 Excalibur_Z wrote:On January 13 2011 03:42 decaf wrote:On January 13 2011 03:34 Excalibur_Z wrote:On January 13 2011 03:14 decaf wrote: Do you already know how many masters leagues there are going to be for each region, excalibur? Divisions, you mean? It's going to depend on how many players resume playing as a result of the patch. I'd estimate 16-20 divisions to start on the NA server, then slowly trickling out from there as either more Master players go inactive or more players in the lower leagues come back from inactive status. Yeah divisions.. didn't get much to sleep for days now.. There are already 25 divisions for the US (if you check sc2ranks) and 16 for the EU, but I kinda don't think that's gonna be as high as it will get, but the ratio (25 : 16) will remain the same. It's cool to have a league only including so few divisions. But I think even the masters league needs modifiers and it may very well have, because I'm in the same division as mondragon and a friend of mine (who's better than me) is in the same division as WhiteRa and another one (who's better too) got Madfrog. So there might be a modifier, dunno though. I'm still not seeing any evidence of modifiers for Master league, they still seem to be popping up only one division at a time (sc2ranks isn't the most accurate source for this because divisions aren't all updated simultaneously). Inevitably what we'll see is those very good players start separating themselves from the pack, just as what happened with Diamond league only to a more obvious degree. I don't see the pros seperating from the non-pros division-wise. I don't know how it looks like in NA but in the EU the pros are WAY more spread out now. They used to be in like 2 division, now there are 0-3 pros per division (most commonly there will be one well-known pro per division)
I'm not suggesting that pros would all be lumped into a single or pair of Master divisions. I'm saying their points will increase more rapidly than other players, and that will be more evident because there are no division tiers in Master league obfuscating things. The only reason so many well-known players were grouped together in the same 2-3 Diamond divisions (which were all not coincidentally S-Rank) is because they were able to rise to the highest tier of Diamond.
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Well this is weird. I had 2905 pts in Diamond league, my division had +189 point modifier. I played one game, won like 24+ pts and got promoted and now I only have 2270 pts.
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On January 13 2011 04:44 Excalibur_Z wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2011 04:30 decaf wrote:On January 13 2011 04:00 Excalibur_Z wrote:On January 13 2011 03:42 decaf wrote:On January 13 2011 03:34 Excalibur_Z wrote:On January 13 2011 03:14 decaf wrote: Do you already know how many masters leagues there are going to be for each region, excalibur? Divisions, you mean? It's going to depend on how many players resume playing as a result of the patch. I'd estimate 16-20 divisions to start on the NA server, then slowly trickling out from there as either more Master players go inactive or more players in the lower leagues come back from inactive status. Yeah divisions.. didn't get much to sleep for days now.. There are already 25 divisions for the US (if you check sc2ranks) and 16 for the EU, but I kinda don't think that's gonna be as high as it will get, but the ratio (25 : 16) will remain the same. It's cool to have a league only including so few divisions. But I think even the masters league needs modifiers and it may very well have, because I'm in the same division as mondragon and a friend of mine (who's better than me) is in the same division as WhiteRa and another one (who's better too) got Madfrog. So there might be a modifier, dunno though. I'm still not seeing any evidence of modifiers for Master league, they still seem to be popping up only one division at a time (sc2ranks isn't the most accurate source for this because divisions aren't all updated simultaneously). Inevitably what we'll see is those very good players start separating themselves from the pack, just as what happened with Diamond league only to a more obvious degree. I don't see the pros seperating from the non-pros division-wise. I don't know how it looks like in NA but in the EU the pros are WAY more spread out now. They used to be in like 2 division, now there are 0-3 pros per division (most commonly there will be one well-known pro per division) I'm not suggesting that pros would all be lumped into a single or pair of Master divisions. I'm saying their points will increase more rapidly than other players, and that will be more evident because there are no division tiers in Master league obfuscating things. The only reason so many well-known players were grouped together in the same 2-3 Diamond divisions (which were all not coincidentally S-Rank) is because they were able to rise to the highest tier of Diamond.
Since you can't get moved from one division to another, isn't the reason a lot of pros got into the same division because they were more likely to be the first ones to be promoted to diamond? I didn't get to diamond until a month after the game came out when all of the pros were already in a full diamond division. I could have gone 2000-0 and I still wouldn't have gotten put in one of their divisions, right?
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I was 2395 point Diamond with (379 bonus pool), After promotion: 1971 (368 bp) does this correspond to what everyone else is experiencing?
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