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On April 05 2012 11:14 xasuma wrote:
I messed up! Okay I was reading the next page of the manual , im sorry!
So I got the right thing now, and I had 2 previous RAM sticks. they are identical, they are in the A1 and A2 (those are 2 gb each) , and the newest one i got its in the B1.
It says identical RAM'S should be in the same color , which would be A1 with B1..
So I have them wrong. The question is, could this be giving me trouble with some blue screens?
No don't change it, you actually have it correct.
As I said before you can arrange RAM dimms anyway you want and the PC will work, though some Intel boards will have an issue if you don't have a dimm in Channel A, for the most part you can put RAM in any old way. + Show Spoiler +I've run into a few intel boards in pre-built HPs that can only run the intel config firmware (controls the system fans based on temperature, etc it has a specific name I can't recall now) on a dimm in channel A. The PC will still run, but the fans will be on full blast all the time and there may be other issues but that's beside the point
That being said, it's best to have even amounts of RAM in channel A and channel B, as this will allow the memory controller to operate in dual channel mode. The setup you mentioned here meets that criteria.
So stop worrying about how the dimms are installed, that has NOTHING to do with the problem. It sounds to me like there is a bad memory sector, that is, a physical defect on one of the dimms.
-edit: JH no it shouldn't cause issues, at least as long as there is a dimm in channel A (see the spoiler above). Whether dual channel mode is enabled or not is the least of his problems right now lol.
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On April 04 2012 23:50 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 23:21 TheToast wrote:On April 04 2012 23:09 Fragile51 wrote:
Hmm, so today i installed new RAM for the first time. It went relatively smoothly, as i'm a first timer it took me a while but hey...i got it done. So i start up my pc and everything is fine. I check out task manager and it recognizes the added ram (i had 4GB, added 8GB). During normal low strain use, there are no problems. When i start to do multiple demanding tasks at once though (think of playing tribes ascend with a youtube video on in the background) Youtube crashes, followed by the game i was playing. It went exactly the same way with just running Battlefield 3 campaign. It is fine for a while, but then when i fire my first shot the game crashes. Before i tested this i got 2 BSOD's in a row. Anyone know what might be wrong? Do you have the error code from the BSOD? That could be extremely helpful. It's very possible that one of the dimms has one or more bad memory sectors. When the memory controller goes to access data stored on one of those sectors, it returns corrupted data; possibly causing system processes or services to crash. If that's the case, it could either be a manufacturing defect or if you were not careful could be damage from installation, very possibly caused by static. There are a number of memory test programs out there, you could also try using just two of the dimms at a time to narrow down which one may have the defect. No sorry, i don't. I removed the RAM from the motherboard, swapped it around, and tried again and it worked fine again, even when i used over 4GB's of RAM. So i removed them again and swapped them again, and all was fine then too. Guess i didn't seat them properly the first time? EDIT: Also, would you mind naming some of these test programs? Just to be sure 
Sooo, after running it for a while again yesterday i got BSOD for the 4th time, so i decided to do something different. I took out the old memory modules and just ran it on the new 8GB for a while, which seemed to work fine. But i still didn't really trust it so i installed memtest86+ on an usb drive and ran it for about 14 hours/12 full passes. No errors were actually found, so i guess that means that the new memory modules are fine. I guess i'll just run it on 8gb for the time being then and i'll reinstall the remaining 4gb and run a memtest again when i find the time, but damn this whole ordeal has been frustrating x_x Anyone know what might be up? Is my pc haunted? :p
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@ JingleHell
I took a picture of the label on the PSU, here it is: Picture
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That PSU blows. Its literally a PSU from 2006. The fact it doesn't have PCIe plugs is a red light.
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But do you think it would be enough to power a HD6570 without too many problems?
And is that graphics card enough to run modern games at low @ 1920 x 1080?
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Depending what games you're playing. Your system will die to anything like Metro 2033 but will do OK in less intensive games like Dirt 2.
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Well i mostly play sc2 and some Bf3, will it run that at low atleast?
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On April 05 2012 20:45 Termi wrote:
Well i mostly play sc2 and some Bf3, will it run that at low atleast?
BF3 is not a "less intensive" game. I wouldn't risk it, since a bad PSU taking a shit can take other components with it.
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Ok, thanks for the help
I think i am gonna get the HD6570 and then use that.
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On April 05 2012 21:30 Termi wrote:Ok, thanks for the help I think i am gonna get the HD6570 and then use that.
Seriously, though, get a new, decent quality 430-450w PSU with it. Uhm, I'm terrible with your side of the planet's options, but we've got some guys who should be able to help you pick a solid, reliable, safe one for cheap.
I've seen too many PSU's take other parts out with them, even decent PSU's that just quit, to like old, low quality ones.
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Will a Corsair CX V2 430W PSU do ok?
Then i just need to figure out how the psu comes out of this crappy HP case..
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On April 05 2012 21:46 Termi wrote:
Will a Corsair CX V2 430W PSU do ok?
Then i just need to figure out how the psu comes out of this crappy HP case..
Yes, quite decent. And usually you just remove the cables, take out a few screws around the back of the PSU, and pull it out through the side.
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Ok, well i'll get to it And when i've installed that, which graphic card would you recomend?
*note, i do not have that much space for a graphics card in the HP case.
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On April 05 2012 21:53 Termi wrote:Ok, well i'll get to it And when i've installed that, which graphic card would you recomend? *note, i do not have that much space for a graphics card in the HP case.
What graphics card out of what set of options?
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It needs to be somewhat powerful, it must not be too big, and it needs to fit a PCI Express x16 slot :D
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On April 05 2012 16:12 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 23:50 Fragile51 wrote:On April 04 2012 23:21 TheToast wrote:On April 04 2012 23:09 Fragile51 wrote:
Hmm, so today i installed new RAM for the first time. It went relatively smoothly, as i'm a first timer it took me a while but hey...i got it done. So i start up my pc and everything is fine. I check out task manager and it recognizes the added ram (i had 4GB, added 8GB). During normal low strain use, there are no problems. When i start to do multiple demanding tasks at once though (think of playing tribes ascend with a youtube video on in the background) Youtube crashes, followed by the game i was playing. It went exactly the same way with just running Battlefield 3 campaign. It is fine for a while, but then when i fire my first shot the game crashes. Before i tested this i got 2 BSOD's in a row. Anyone know what might be wrong? Do you have the error code from the BSOD? That could be extremely helpful. It's very possible that one of the dimms has one or more bad memory sectors. When the memory controller goes to access data stored on one of those sectors, it returns corrupted data; possibly causing system processes or services to crash. If that's the case, it could either be a manufacturing defect or if you were not careful could be damage from installation, very possibly caused by static. There are a number of memory test programs out there, you could also try using just two of the dimms at a time to narrow down which one may have the defect. No sorry, i don't. I removed the RAM from the motherboard, swapped it around, and tried again and it worked fine again, even when i used over 4GB's of RAM. So i removed them again and swapped them again, and all was fine then too. Guess i didn't seat them properly the first time? EDIT: Also, would you mind naming some of these test programs? Just to be sure Sooo, after running it for a while again yesterday i got BSOD for the 4th time, so i decided to do something different. I took out the old memory modules and just ran it on the new 8GB for a while, which seemed to work fine. But i still didn't really trust it so i installed memtest86+ on an usb drive and ran it for about 14 hours/12 full passes. No errors were actually found, so i guess that means that the new memory modules are fine. I guess i'll just run it on 8gb for the time being then and i'll reinstall the remaining 4gb and run a memtest again when i find the time, but damn this whole ordeal has been frustrating x_x Anyone know what might be up? Is my pc haunted? :p
More likely there is a bad memory sector on the one of the dimms you pulled out. Using memtest you should be able to figure out which one that is and get rid of it. Could have been damaged when you installed the new memory, no way to know for certain.
Either way, 8G should really be enough for just about anything you are doing. Installing more RAM isn't going to make your PC "go faster". + Show Spoiler +okay, well superfetch will actually be able to in theory pre-emptively load more stuff into memory, but this only really matters for launching programs and not really for any tangible performace benefit
Also, has anyone else been noticing issues with images hosted on imgur not loading properly, or am I just crazy? I've been seeing the default imgur error message all around TL lately, I'm assuming they are having problems? I swear if they added some kind of maximum bandwith limit like photobucket I'll be pretty pissed.
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@Termi
Your PSU looks like standard ATX, is it mounted some weird way? Otherwise I'd expect you to have a standard size card slot...
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Hmm, i think it is mounted in abit of a weird way, but i think i should be able to take it out, and i have a standard size card slot, but the case is rather small.
And also, do you think you could recommend a good graphics card, preferred around 150 USD or less.
(Prices in Denmark are abit higher than newegg, ncix etc.)
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When a surge protector switch is turned off, does it still provide ground to whatever is plugged into it, or only when the surge protector is switched on? This is for static electricity purposes. This particular model has a ground indicator that turns on when it is on. From some googling my guess is no, since I guess there is no physical connection when the surge protector is switched off, but it wasn't entirely clear.
Just sort of curious.
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On April 05 2012 22:41 Termi wrote:
Hmm, i think it is mounted in abit of a weird way, but i think i should be able to take it out, and i have a standard size card slot, but the case is rather small.
And also, do you think you could recommend a good graphics card, preferred around 150 USD or less.
(Prices in Denmark are abit higher than newegg, ncix etc.)
GTX 460 or HD 6850?
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/291?vs=313
They kinda fluctuate on which is better. They tend to hit around that mark these days. If they cost too much there, consider HD 5770, HD 6770, or GTS 450.
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