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On April 06 2012 04:49 TheToast wrote:
That's true, factoring in the motherboard price is going to make a difference. Looking at New Egg I5's have also come down in price over the past few months, much more than I realized.
But I'd still say if you were going for a budget build, depending one what you're using it for going AMD might make sense.
I'm not as good at it as skyR is, but I'm pretty sure I've seen him disprove that for every market niche that makes logical sense. Because the "Overclocking on a stupidly low budget and still not getting any better performance than an intel build at the same price point" niche is pretty illogical.
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On April 06 2012 04:49 TheToast wrote:
That's true, factoring in the motherboard price is going to make a difference. Looking at New Egg I5's have also come down in price over the past few months, much more than I realized.
But I'd still say if you were going for a budget build, depending one what you're using it for going AMD might make sense.
It would be in very niche scenarios and you can hardly do it anymore. Athlon II's are almost all gone (and Pentium Gxxx is better in most scenarios/apps/games anyway), 960T is available for like $130 and I'd rather have an i3 2120 over it. I'm not even going to mention the FX-4100 since the i3 2100 or 960T are better.
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You wasted post 666 on quoting yourself? Weak.
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You wasted post 666 on quoting yourself? Weak. you have my video card in posts :D
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On April 06 2012 05:13 Zushen wrote:you have my video card in posts :D
Not anymore. Too bad I didn't get that count commenting on their effectiveness for low-end gaming cards with pretty fair price/performance.
I've never cared much about my post count. It just kind of happens.
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On April 06 2012 04:53 Wabbit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 04:49 TheToast wrote:
That's true, factoring in the motherboard price is going to make a difference. Looking at New Egg I5's have also come down in price over the past few months, much more than I realized.
But I'd still say if you were going for a budget build, depending one what you're using it for going AMD might make sense. It would be in very niche scenarios and you can hardly do it anymore. Athlon II's are almost all gone (and Pentium Gxxx is better in most scenarios/apps/games anyway), 960T is available for like $130 and I'd rather have an i3 2120 over it. I'm not even going to mention the FX-4100 since the i3 2100 or 960T are better.
I don't disagree with any particular point. But I still <3 AMD 
And damn some of the prices for I5s are pretty low...
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On April 06 2012 05:25 TheToast wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 04:53 Wabbit wrote:On April 06 2012 04:49 TheToast wrote:
That's true, factoring in the motherboard price is going to make a difference. Looking at New Egg I5's have also come down in price over the past few months, much more than I realized.
But I'd still say if you were going for a budget build, depending one what you're using it for going AMD might make sense. It would be in very niche scenarios and you can hardly do it anymore. Athlon II's are almost all gone (and Pentium Gxxx is better in most scenarios/apps/games anyway), 960T is available for like $130 and I'd rather have an i3 2120 over it. I'm not even going to mention the FX-4100 since the i3 2100 or 960T are better. I don't disagree with any particular point. But I still <3 AMD And damn some of the prices for I5s are pretty low...
Why would you give them any particular affection? Overpriced, underperforming, and deceptive marketing. Woohoo. Stubborn attempts at compatibility that limit their ability to improve their products. Yay.
I mean, both corporations have their ethical issues, so there's no special reason for loyalty there. AMD refuses to price intelligently, and produces stuff that objectively underperforms.
I just don't consider computer performance a place for sentimentality.
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On April 06 2012 05:32 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 05:25 TheToast wrote:On April 06 2012 04:53 Wabbit wrote:On April 06 2012 04:49 TheToast wrote:
That's true, factoring in the motherboard price is going to make a difference. Looking at New Egg I5's have also come down in price over the past few months, much more than I realized.
But I'd still say if you were going for a budget build, depending one what you're using it for going AMD might make sense. It would be in very niche scenarios and you can hardly do it anymore. Athlon II's are almost all gone (and Pentium Gxxx is better in most scenarios/apps/games anyway), 960T is available for like $130 and I'd rather have an i3 2120 over it. I'm not even going to mention the FX-4100 since the i3 2100 or 960T are better. I don't disagree with any particular point. But I still <3 AMD And damn some of the prices for I5s are pretty low... Why would you give them any particular affection? Overpriced, underperforming, and deceptive marketing. Woohoo. Stubborn attempts at compatibility that limit their ability to improve their products. Yay. I mean, both corporations have their ethical issues, so there's no special reason for loyalty there. AMD refuses to price intelligently, and produces stuff that objectively underperforms. I just don't consider computer performance a place for sentimentality.
I am well aware of this.
Actually if I were to build a new desktop at some point I would go intel.
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With the help of JingleHell, i have chosen that my new GPU will be a HD6770. Now are there any difference between these 2?
Club 3D Radeon PCI-E HD6770 1GB DDR5
Sapphire Radeon HD 6770 1GB GDDR5
They are the same card, but are one them better in some way, than the other?
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Intel is just as, if not more, subversive than AMD though. At the moment it is impossible for a competitor to enter the market.
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Why would you give them any particular affection? Overpriced, underperforming, and deceptive marketing. Woohoo. Stubborn attempts at compatibility that limit their ability to improve their products. Yay.
I mean, both corporations have their ethical issues, so there's no special reason for loyalty there. AMD refuses to price intelligently, and produces stuff that objectively underperforms.
I just don't consider computer performance a place for sentimentality.
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AMD offers terrible performance for what you pay. $270 processors getting outperformed by $120 processors. Just because you can pay more on an Intel system that AMD doesnt have an answer for is something else entirely.
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On April 06 2012 07:31 Medrea wrote:
AMD offers terrible performance for what you pay. $270 processors getting outperformed by $120 processors. Just because you can pay more on an Intel system that AMD doesnt have an answer for is something else entirely.
Bingo. If I want a cost effective budget system, I'm getting Intel and not worrying about high end features. If I want a high performance reasonable cost system, I'm still getting intel, but there's more features. And if I throw the budget out the window, AMD looks completely moronic.
And like I said. Neither company scores any integrity points, which leaves it down to objective considerations like "Which system doesn't suck?" With the answer inevitably being "The intel one, obviously."
And at least Intel doesn't feel the need to make HT sound like an octocore, or set "world overclocking records" where they blatantly admit to just booting the system and not even trying to bench it. IIRC, AMD did both with the release of BD. They just tried to make it sound like NOT benching the system at all, just looking at the clock speed in CPU-Z mattered in some way, and made them special. Waste of perfectly good LN2.
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i would like AMD to be successful/competitive in the gaming market again though, competition by big Corps. only benefit consumers. (most of the time)
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On April 06 2012 08:23 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
i would like AMD to be successful/competitive in the gaming market again though, competition by big Corps. only benefit consumers. (most of the time)
Oh I think we're all agreed that AMD being capable of competing couldn't hurt. It's just that they most definitely can NOT compete right now, and anyone who says otherwise is talking about bizarre niche shit, or engaged in seriously wishful thinking.
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I feel that the desktop CPU war is over.
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So I just recently set up a stream and was able to get permission from an artist to use his music so long as I give song information and a shoutout in each session, as well as some other conditions. Once I have an overlay, how do I set up a song title/artist name section? I don't fully understand how to pull the information from iTunes. Something to do with the ID3 tags?
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I just started trying to stream SCII using xsplit, but whenever I go ingame the stream flickers constantly.
I've put the game in full screen windowed mode and it still flickers :<.
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This question may seem a little random, but is it possible to make a vbs script that can force a mouse click?
If so, how can I do it?
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