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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 04 2012 16:29 GMT
#1821
On April 05 2012 01:25 Medrea wrote:
I don't think Xsplit or any of the others like being penned to 2 cores very much. SC2 suffers from being fixed to two cores as well. Well less than 3 I should say.


I did say stream quality would depend on other factors. In particular aspect scaling is going to crush him. I'd guess it's not going to be as pretty as he wants no matter what, but the only way to avoid hurting his performance is to limit to 2 threads. At that point, he's not going to be getting as great of a stream as he wants.

So yeah. Overall, you can avoid hurting in-game performance, but at the cost of stream quality. I think we're agreed on that, which was what I was saying.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 16:36:45
April 04 2012 16:36 GMT
#1822
Although I should just test this for myself I am asking around and people are telling me that even if you completely segregate the stream program and the game you are streaming the end result is still a lower FPS game.

At least Xsplit does.
twitch.tv/medrea
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
April 04 2012 16:42 GMT
#1823
On April 05 2012 01:18 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 01:08 TheToast wrote:
On April 04 2012 23:51 JingleHell wrote:
Happens to everyone eventually.


Speak for yourself :/

I do have a question though. Does the TL Tech Support forum have an IRC channel?


Not that I know of. It would be horrendously un-productive in 99% of cases anyways. If you wanted to use IRC for it, you'd do better just PMing someone off a regular channel to avoid mixing conversations.


I agree troubleshooting might not work well at all, but there's a lot more conversation that goes on in tech support than just troubleshooting and tech issues.

Mouse thread has 900+ comments many of which are just discussions about new mice etc. There's a lot of general talk in here as well, like Medrea's ranting about laptops for instance.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
April 04 2012 16:47 GMT
#1824
Alright I think Xsplit hooks into how the target window renders frames in order to get input from it. So separating them doesn't do what I guess one might think it does. I guess this is why Aero needs to be disabled.
twitch.tv/medrea
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 04 2012 17:07 GMT
#1825
On April 05 2012 01:42 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 01:18 JingleHell wrote:
On April 05 2012 01:08 TheToast wrote:
On April 04 2012 23:51 JingleHell wrote:
Happens to everyone eventually.


Speak for yourself :/

I do have a question though. Does the TL Tech Support forum have an IRC channel?


Not that I know of. It would be horrendously un-productive in 99% of cases anyways. If you wanted to use IRC for it, you'd do better just PMing someone off a regular channel to avoid mixing conversations.


I agree troubleshooting might not work well at all, but there's a lot more conversation that goes on in tech support than just troubleshooting and tech issues.

Mouse thread has 900+ comments many of which are just discussions about new mice etc. There's a lot of general talk in here as well, like Medrea's ranting about laptops for instance.


And having IRC for the discussion would just make it that much more disjointed and painful to track down something that's already been discussed ad nauseum when people refuse to search.
xasuma
Profile Joined October 2010
Chile62 Posts
April 04 2012 20:28 GMT
#1826
I was reading in a forum that low power supply could make HDD corrupt.

Well my HDD got corrupted, and I am wondering if once its been corrupted its bad forever? (assuming i am not buying a new part to fix it) Or would it come back to normal once the power supply is a good one?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 20:40:05
April 04 2012 20:39 GMT
#1827
On April 05 2012 05:28 xasuma wrote:
I was reading in a forum that low power supply could make HDD corrupt.

Well my HDD got corrupted, and I am wondering if once its been corrupted its bad forever? (assuming i am not buying a new part to fix it) Or would it come back to normal once the power supply is a good one?


WTF forum was that? If your PSU somehow is shitty enough on the 5v rail to fuck with your HDD, you have other issues.

As for whether it could be fixed magically by replacing the PSU, it would entirely depend on the issues theoretically caused by the PSU. Since HDD issues can be mechanical, or just a sector not working anymore, which the PC can then ignore, or electrical parts could malfunction, there's too many things to just say yes or no.

Mind giving a link? I'd love to read this.

For the record, what's your HDD doing, and what's your PSU?

I can't imagine a PSU that was THAT shitty actually managing to safely power a CPU or GPU though.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
April 04 2012 20:46 GMT
#1828
On April 05 2012 05:39 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 05:28 xasuma wrote:
I was reading in a forum that low power supply could make HDD corrupt.

Well my HDD got corrupted, and I am wondering if once its been corrupted its bad forever? (assuming i am not buying a new part to fix it) Or would it come back to normal once the power supply is a good one?


WTF forum was that? If your PSU somehow is shitty enough on the 5v rail to fuck with your HDD, you have other issues.

As for whether it could be fixed magically by replacing the PSU, it would entirely depend on the issues theoretically caused by the PSU. Since HDD issues can be mechanical, or just a sector not working anymore, which the PC can then ignore, or electrical parts could malfunction, there's too many things to just say yes or no.

Mind giving a link? I'd love to read this.

For the record, what's your HDD doing, and what's your PSU?

I can't imagine a PSU that was THAT shitty actually managing to safely power a CPU or GPU though.


Well.... theoretically the power output of just the connector going to the HD could be bad. Though in practice this seems highly unlikely. I suppose it would be possible for the wires going to the connector could be bad but.... I just don't see that happening.

I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 04 2012 20:49 GMT
#1829
On April 05 2012 05:46 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 05:39 JingleHell wrote:
On April 05 2012 05:28 xasuma wrote:
I was reading in a forum that low power supply could make HDD corrupt.

Well my HDD got corrupted, and I am wondering if once its been corrupted its bad forever? (assuming i am not buying a new part to fix it) Or would it come back to normal once the power supply is a good one?


WTF forum was that? If your PSU somehow is shitty enough on the 5v rail to fuck with your HDD, you have other issues.

As for whether it could be fixed magically by replacing the PSU, it would entirely depend on the issues theoretically caused by the PSU. Since HDD issues can be mechanical, or just a sector not working anymore, which the PC can then ignore, or electrical parts could malfunction, there's too many things to just say yes or no.

Mind giving a link? I'd love to read this.

For the record, what's your HDD doing, and what's your PSU?

I can't imagine a PSU that was THAT shitty actually managing to safely power a CPU or GPU though.


Well.... theoretically the power output of just the connector going to the HD could be bad. Though in practice this seems highly unlikely. I suppose it would be possible for the wires going to the connector could be bad but.... I just don't see that happening.



Well, yeah, I guess I may have made my skepticism sound a bit too much like saying it's not possible. But I'd definitely say if this DOES happen, it's a fringe case and freak accident, rather than something you should consider possible.

Besides which, we all know that HDD's don't NEED a reason to take a shit right now, because prices suck. They just spontaneously combust.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
April 04 2012 20:54 GMT
#1830
Well it's theoretically possible, but I highly doubt the PSU is causing problems with his HD. I suppose a power surge could fry the HD, but then it's not going to magically come back to life.

His OS install could also be corrupted, HD may not be dead.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 04 2012 21:02 GMT
#1831
On April 05 2012 05:54 TheToast wrote:
Well it's theoretically possible, but I highly doubt the PSU is causing problems with his HD. I suppose a power surge could fry the HD, but then it's not going to magically come back to life.

His OS install could also be corrupted, HD may not be dead.


If there was a power surge, and the PSU didn't stop it damaging the HDD but did stop it damaging the motherboard and CPU, I'd be rather confused.

Yeah, could just be typical corruption, but if his HDD is screwed and his PSU was involved (which I'm still leery of), I'd expect the HDD to be properly dead. That was my main point. And why I wanted more info. Too many variables to even begin to help.

And of course, I still want to read about this mystical ability of PSUs to somehow magically cause corruption without breaking tons of shit in the process. Never heard of it, and refuse to believe it would be more than a fringe case if and when it did happen.
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 21:04:49
April 04 2012 21:04 GMT
#1832
On April 05 2012 05:54 TheToast wrote:
Well it's theoretically bread, but I highly bread the bread is causing bread with his HD. I suppose a bread surge could fry the bread, but then it's not going to magically come back to bread.

His OS install could also be bread, HD may not be bread.


I just realized that I can't take anything you say serious anymore after what happened in the Automated Ban List thread. It just all says bread... :p
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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 21:11:44
April 04 2012 21:11 GMT
#1833
Yeah all the cases where I've seen a power surge kill components the PSU is usually dead too. But he didn't say whether the PSU was in working order or not, so it's possible. It's also possible that he's using the word "corruption" incorrectly (his profile says he's from Chile so it might be a translation issue). If the PSU output is very low, it could theoretically stop the hard drive from operating correctly, and he may be assuming this is a corruption or just using the wrong word.

Either way, there's nothing we can do with the information he provided.

-edit: oh good lord.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
xasuma
Profile Joined October 2010
Chile62 Posts
April 04 2012 21:22 GMT
#1834
The PSU i believe its working properly, It was a very shitty one i think tho. Buy my HDD is definitely bad, I was getting blue screens every 10 minutes. I put in a new HDD (old one that i found in an old computer) and after I installed windows 7 in it I got a blue screen, saying Bad_pool_header.

Before i put this one in I always got blue screen saying memory or disk something.

I mean I got new motherboard, new CPU , new graphics card, added some RAM, the only things left in my pc that are old are my HDD and my PSU (which i have a new PSU ready to install right now and another HDD on its way.)

I can't possibly spend any more money on this.. I just want it to be good. Maybe i messed up putting it all together?
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
April 04 2012 21:31 GMT
#1835
On April 05 2012 06:22 xasuma wrote:
The PSU i believe its working properly, It was a very shitty one i think tho. Buy my HDD is definitely bad, I was getting blue screens every 10 minutes. I put in a new HDD (old one that i found in an old computer) and after I installed windows 7 in it I got a blue screen, saying Bad_pool_header.

Before i put this one in I always got blue screen saying memory or disk something.

I mean I got new motherboard, new CPU , new graphics card, added some RAM, the only things left in my pc that are old are my HDD and my PSU (which i have a new PSU ready to install right now and another HDD on its way.)

I can't possibly spend any more money on this.. I just want it to be good. Maybe i messed up putting it all together?


That specific BSOD error has to do with a driver issue: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff557389(v=vs.85).aspx

If you did a full disc format when you reinstalled, I would guess there is some issue with one of the other components in your system that is causing the driver to crash, and subsequently windows. I would bet it's a bad sector on one of the RAM dimms.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
xasuma
Profile Joined October 2010
Chile62 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 21:44:07
April 04 2012 21:42 GMT
#1836
Right now I have 3 sticks of RAM, 2 that the computer had from before 2 gb each. And the 3rd slot I put it in when i bought my new parts which was a 4gb ddr3.

My computer has 4 slots, does it matter in what order they go in or doesnt matter? Because I just put that 3rd one in in one of the empty ones and didnt think about anything else.

Is there a tool to check if one of my Ram's is broken or something like that? Should I try and remove the one that i installed latest?

And today I have got an error twice saying that the instructions 0x6c84e691 referenced memory at 0x0d308774. The memory could not be read.

I was leaning towards the RAM before, now I am even more, but how can I make sure? Or how do i know which one of them is the one with a problem?

Edit:
Oh and for some reason some plugins keep crashing quite frequently. I dont know if this helps gives any clue/
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 21:45:35
April 04 2012 21:44 GMT
#1837
Am i the only one who has problems mute/unmute streams after went from full screen to normal scale? It's so annoying.
Everytime i mute a stream and go fullscreen, switch back to normal scale and unmute it, the sound doesn't work. Only page refresh helps.
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
awakenx
Profile Joined May 2011
United States341 Posts
April 04 2012 21:48 GMT
#1838
whoa what just happened to my vids o.o they look like this now

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

ive rebooted the comp, restarted my browser, and tried every video i watched online and they all look washed out + green bar across top.

flash player is 11.2.202.228
WorstMicroNA
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 21:50:34
April 04 2012 21:50 GMT
#1839
Try disabling hardware acceleration in flash.

Also check to make sure that video games arent also fucked up.
twitch.tv/medrea
awakenx
Profile Joined May 2011
United States341 Posts
April 04 2012 21:51 GMT
#1840
On April 05 2012 06:50 Medrea wrote:
Try disabling hardware acceleration in flash.

Also check to make sure that video games arent also fucked up.


that did it.

thanks!
WorstMicroNA
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