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xasuma
Profile Joined October 2010
Chile62 Posts
April 03 2012 21:58 GMT
#1801
can i install starcraft in an external hard drive and play it from there? (i am using a 40gb HDD and have no room for it) lol
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 03 2012 21:59 GMT
#1802
Yes.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
April 03 2012 23:38 GMT
#1803
On April 04 2012 05:54 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 05:49 Medrea wrote:
And by that I mean Scientific Method.

Caps are important here. Scientific Method is the ultimate creed in computer diagnosis and repair.


Nah. Correct solution is to sacrifice a virgin goat with a toad tied around it's neck to a volcano under a full moon. That and communing with the spirits of the dead.

Science is TOTALLY overrated. I want a degree in Computer Theology.

But no, seriously, he's right. And even if something you're told to do doesn't work, it's not always because you were given bad advice, they could just be working their way through a process of elimination. Too many people expect some bizarre guaranteed fix to all PC problems. 99% of the time, it's a combination of a little bit of basic knowledge, prioritizing some guesswork, and finding tests to isolate the components behind those guesses until the issue is found.


Yeah, I've been here long enough to know it isn't solved on the first try all the time :p
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Termi
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark23 Posts
April 04 2012 09:24 GMT
#1804
Ok, well reading through the answers i found the GT520 was utterly trash.
Now i have not bought the card yet, and will not.
So are any of these better?
It is gonna be paired up with an Intel Quad Core Q9300 @ 2.5Ghz. And my power supply is 300W
The HD5450, HD6450 or the HD6570. Or any other for that matter?

Btw since i have a prebuilt, it appears i have no PCI-E power connectors :/
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
April 04 2012 09:34 GMT
#1805
On April 04 2012 18:24 Termi wrote:
Ok, well reading through the answers i found the GT520 was utterly trash.
Now i have not bought the card yet, and will not.
So are any of these better?
It is gonna be paired up with an Intel Quad Core Q9300 @ 2.5Ghz. And my power supply is 300W
The HD5450, HD6450 or the HD6570. Or any other for that matter?

Btw since i have a prebuilt, it appears i have no PCI-E power connectors :/


The HD6570 is the best of the bunch, but none of them are very powerful.

As for the PCI-E power connectors... Do you have free molex connectors in your machine? A molex->PCIE adapter should cost around 30 kroner (or less) and will allow you to use more powerful cards.
Such flammable little insects!
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 04 2012 12:48 GMT
#1806
On April 04 2012 18:24 Termi wrote:
Ok, well reading through the answers i found the GT520 was utterly trash.
Now i have not bought the card yet, and will not.
So are any of these better?
It is gonna be paired up with an Intel Quad Core Q9300 @ 2.5Ghz. And my power supply is 300W
The HD5450, HD6450 or the HD6570. Or any other for that matter?

Btw since i have a prebuilt, it appears i have no PCI-E power connectors :/


A 300w in a prebuilt may be (most likely is) bad, and shouldn't be trusted with the added load probably. Can you grab the model number off the sticker?
Termi
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark23 Posts
April 04 2012 13:51 GMT
#1807
The powersupply is a LiteOn and the model number is PS-5301-08HF.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 13:59:56
April 04 2012 13:59 GMT
#1808
On April 04 2012 22:51 Termi wrote:
The powersupply is a LiteOn and the model number is PS-5301-08HF.


I can't find a review, but just to be sure, what output amperage does it list on the +12v rail? Odds are you'll need to replace the PSU to upgrade GPU, and even if it could theoretically work, it's probably a good idea to replace it anyway.

If it doesn't break the amperages down by rail, it's bad for sure, by the way.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
April 04 2012 14:09 GMT
#1809
Hmm, so today i installed new RAM for the first time. It went relatively smoothly, as i'm a first timer it took me a while but hey...i got it done. So i start up my pc and everything is fine. I check out task manager and it recognizes the added ram (i had 4GB, added 8GB). During normal low strain use, there are no problems. When i start to do multiple demanding tasks at once though (think of playing tribes ascend with a youtube video on in the background) Youtube crashes, followed by the game i was playing. It went exactly the same way with just running Battlefield 3 campaign. It is fine for a while, but then when i fire my first shot the game crashes. Before i tested this i got 2 BSOD's in a row. Anyone know what might be wrong?
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
April 04 2012 14:21 GMT
#1810
On April 04 2012 23:09 Fragile51 wrote:
Hmm, so today i installed new RAM for the first time. It went relatively smoothly, as i'm a first timer it took me a while but hey...i got it done. So i start up my pc and everything is fine. I check out task manager and it recognizes the added ram (i had 4GB, added 8GB). During normal low strain use, there are no problems. When i start to do multiple demanding tasks at once though (think of playing tribes ascend with a youtube video on in the background) Youtube crashes, followed by the game i was playing. It went exactly the same way with just running Battlefield 3 campaign. It is fine for a while, but then when i fire my first shot the game crashes. Before i tested this i got 2 BSOD's in a row. Anyone know what might be wrong?


Do you have the error code from the BSOD? That could be extremely helpful.

It's very possible that one of the dimms has one or more bad memory sectors. When the memory controller goes to access data stored on one of those sectors, it returns corrupted data; possibly causing system processes or services to crash.

If that's the case, it could either be a manufacturing defect or if you were not careful could be damage from installation, very possibly caused by static. There are a number of memory test programs out there, you could also try using just two of the dimms at a time to narrow down which one may have the defect.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 14:50:43
April 04 2012 14:50 GMT
#1811
On April 04 2012 23:21 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 23:09 Fragile51 wrote:
Hmm, so today i installed new RAM for the first time. It went relatively smoothly, as i'm a first timer it took me a while but hey...i got it done. So i start up my pc and everything is fine. I check out task manager and it recognizes the added ram (i had 4GB, added 8GB). During normal low strain use, there are no problems. When i start to do multiple demanding tasks at once though (think of playing tribes ascend with a youtube video on in the background) Youtube crashes, followed by the game i was playing. It went exactly the same way with just running Battlefield 3 campaign. It is fine for a while, but then when i fire my first shot the game crashes. Before i tested this i got 2 BSOD's in a row. Anyone know what might be wrong?


Do you have the error code from the BSOD? That could be extremely helpful.

It's very possible that one of the dimms has one or more bad memory sectors. When the memory controller goes to access data stored on one of those sectors, it returns corrupted data; possibly causing system processes or services to crash.

If that's the case, it could either be a manufacturing defect or if you were not careful could be damage from installation, very possibly caused by static. There are a number of memory test programs out there, you could also try using just two of the dimms at a time to narrow down which one may have the defect.


No sorry, i don't. I removed the RAM from the motherboard, swapped it around, and tried again and it worked fine again, even when i used over 4GB's of RAM. So i removed them again and swapped them again, and all was fine then too. Guess i didn't seat them properly the first time?

EDIT: Also, would you mind naming some of these test programs? Just to be sure
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 14:51:44
April 04 2012 14:51 GMT
#1812
On April 04 2012 23:50 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 23:21 TheToast wrote:
On April 04 2012 23:09 Fragile51 wrote:
Hmm, so today i installed new RAM for the first time. It went relatively smoothly, as i'm a first timer it took me a while but hey...i got it done. So i start up my pc and everything is fine. I check out task manager and it recognizes the added ram (i had 4GB, added 8GB). During normal low strain use, there are no problems. When i start to do multiple demanding tasks at once though (think of playing tribes ascend with a youtube video on in the background) Youtube crashes, followed by the game i was playing. It went exactly the same way with just running Battlefield 3 campaign. It is fine for a while, but then when i fire my first shot the game crashes. Before i tested this i got 2 BSOD's in a row. Anyone know what might be wrong?


Do you have the error code from the BSOD? That could be extremely helpful.

It's very possible that one of the dimms has one or more bad memory sectors. When the memory controller goes to access data stored on one of those sectors, it returns corrupted data; possibly causing system processes or services to crash.

If that's the case, it could either be a manufacturing defect or if you were not careful could be damage from installation, very possibly caused by static. There are a number of memory test programs out there, you could also try using just two of the dimms at a time to narrow down which one may have the defect.


No sorry, i don't. I removed the RAM from the motherboard, swapped it around, and tried again and it worked fine again, even when i used over 4GB's of RAM. So i removed them again and swapped them again, and all was fine then too. Guess i didn't seat them properly the first time?


Very possible. Even a bit of lint or dirt can stop it seating well, or just not pushing it in right. Happens to everyone eventually.

Memtest86 off a boot disc is ideal, run it overnight preferably.
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
April 04 2012 14:51 GMT
#1813
I accidentally turned of the mobile version of TL on my smartphone, does anyone know how to go back to mobile version? :s
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
April 04 2012 15:04 GMT
#1814
On April 04 2012 23:51 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 23:50 Fragile51 wrote:
On April 04 2012 23:21 TheToast wrote:
On April 04 2012 23:09 Fragile51 wrote:
Hmm, so today i installed new RAM for the first time. It went relatively smoothly, as i'm a first timer it took me a while but hey...i got it done. So i start up my pc and everything is fine. I check out task manager and it recognizes the added ram (i had 4GB, added 8GB). During normal low strain use, there are no problems. When i start to do multiple demanding tasks at once though (think of playing tribes ascend with a youtube video on in the background) Youtube crashes, followed by the game i was playing. It went exactly the same way with just running Battlefield 3 campaign. It is fine for a while, but then when i fire my first shot the game crashes. Before i tested this i got 2 BSOD's in a row. Anyone know what might be wrong?


Do you have the error code from the BSOD? That could be extremely helpful.

It's very possible that one of the dimms has one or more bad memory sectors. When the memory controller goes to access data stored on one of those sectors, it returns corrupted data; possibly causing system processes or services to crash.

If that's the case, it could either be a manufacturing defect or if you were not careful could be damage from installation, very possibly caused by static. There are a number of memory test programs out there, you could also try using just two of the dimms at a time to narrow down which one may have the defect.


No sorry, i don't. I removed the RAM from the motherboard, swapped it around, and tried again and it worked fine again, even when i used over 4GB's of RAM. So i removed them again and swapped them again, and all was fine then too. Guess i didn't seat them properly the first time?


Very possible. Even a bit of lint or dirt can stop it seating well, or just not pushing it in right. Happens to everyone eventually.

Memtest86 off a boot disc is ideal, run it overnight preferably.


Allright, will do! Thanks :D
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
April 04 2012 16:08 GMT
#1815
On April 04 2012 23:51 JingleHell wrote:
Happens to everyone eventually.


Speak for yourself :/

I do have a question though. Does the TL Tech Support forum have an IRC channel?
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 04 2012 16:18 GMT
#1816
On April 05 2012 01:08 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 23:51 JingleHell wrote:
Happens to everyone eventually.


Speak for yourself :/

I do have a question though. Does the TL Tech Support forum have an IRC channel?


Not that I know of. It would be horrendously un-productive in 99% of cases anyways. If you wanted to use IRC for it, you'd do better just PMing someone off a regular channel to avoid mixing conversations.
fenner
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United Kingdom163 Posts
April 04 2012 16:18 GMT
#1817
Is the i5-2320 enough for streaming 20fps 720p @ 1280x1024 with no in game fps lag?
Zerg Strategy & Stuff www.youtube.com/fenn3r
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 16:24:49
April 04 2012 16:23 GMT
#1818
On April 05 2012 01:18 fenner wrote:
Is the i5-2320 enough for streaming 20fps 720p @ 1280x1024 with no in game fps lag?


Streaming always results in FPS drop of some kind. "Lag" denotes a network issue though, not a framerate. So I can't be certain what you mean. There is something called frame lag, but I am guessing thats not what you mean. I am guessing you mean "will my FPS drop to an unacceptable level," in which case I dont know because I dont know what you deem to be acceptable.

Since an i5-2320 cant even run the game at 60 FPS the entire time in huge engagements even while not streaming. I guess I should say no?

You'll be able to stream 720p pretty well. But we also need to know your network ability, namely your upload.
twitch.tv/medrea
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 04 2012 16:24 GMT
#1819
On April 05 2012 01:18 fenner wrote:
Is the i5-2320 enough for streaming 20fps 720p @ 1280x1024 with no in game fps lag?


Well, SC2 is only going to use 2 cores, so as long as you don't let your streaming software use more than 2, you shouldn't significantly affect in-game experience at all.

The stream quality will depend on other settings, although changing aspect ratio is going to affect performance pretty significantly, IIRC.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 16:27:53
April 04 2012 16:25 GMT
#1820
I don't think Xsplit or any of the others like being penned to 2 cores very much. SC2 suffers from being fixed to two cores as well. Well less than 3 I should say.

20 FPS is a pretty low framerate though. I guess it could work.
twitch.tv/medrea
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