EPT[GSL] Can we blame the maps? *possible spoilers* - Page 2
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
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Ragoo
Germany2773 Posts
This is the map pool: + Show Spoiler + Antiga Shipyard Bel'Shir Beach Crossfire SE Daybreak Dual Sight Metalopolis Tal'Darim Altar LE Terminus SE Xel'Naga Fortress So Bel'Shir, Crossfire, Xel'Naga Fortress are pretty terrible Protoss maps, Meta and Dual Sight aren't good for Protoss either. The maps that are actually okay for Protoss are just that: okay. Afaik there is no really good Protoss map in the map pool. So yeah the map pool doesn't favor Protoss. On the other hand, do we really want maps that favor Protoss in its current state? Cause that would be pretty turtlish, undynamic maps with easy thirds/fourths and 1a deathball games. I'd rather see the game fixed instead of adding Protoss maps at this point. btw GSL actually adds this map and I think it's in response to Protoss imbalance atm. But as you can see, games will probably be very passive and turtish on this one... (so basically like Stephano vs Kiwikaki passive, just without the new mothership moves ...) | ||
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Verator
United States283 Posts
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Tppz!
Germany1449 Posts
On October 12 2011 22:02 Gamegene wrote: ROFL. NO. What a horrible idea. Too many zergs on NA ladder, blizzard should put rocks at the natural in all maps now. Thats how it was done in Broodwar. Balance through maps. And im not talking about Laddermappool - im talking about GSL maps. And I think GSL is trying to do so by adding belshirbeach etc Still not sure if its worth it because Blizzard couldnt balance the game with the new imbalanced maps. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
Should be using this Honestly though, the maps are hardly the reason for this. It's just simply the fact that Terrans players are just doing a lot better in the GSL. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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thane
United States407 Posts
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
I am not sure, since it looks like you can either have map that is good for T/P or good for Z ? Meaning, easy expos, barren lands for surrounds etc... Maybe, by removing any viable elevator play from Terran ? And keeping chokes so P can keep using FF and not get surrounded so easily ? | ||
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
EDIT: The best example of this seems to be that in foreigner tournaments, Zerg and Protoss are a lot more prevalent with the number of top foreigners Terrans seemingly lacking. Even if it was a purely foreigner tournament I don't there are many people who would name a Terran player as a favorite (minus maybe ThorZaiN). | ||
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ChoiBoi
United States130 Posts
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TigerKarl
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On October 12 2011 22:08 pdd wrote: Should be using this Honestly though, the maps are hardly the reason for this. It's just simply the fact that Terrans players are just doing a lot better in the GSL. oh shit that's even worse ==; | ||
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Aborash
65 Posts
Its the design of the terran race what cause the "imbalance", its a great design, and the others races lack of alternatives/units at their design. Thats all, hopefully they can fix it adding the units they need at HoTS. | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
If a certain race outnumber the other races that much, you don't need someone else to tell you that something is wrong. | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
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Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
On October 12 2011 21:55 Nick_54 wrote: Really should wait a while before posting this or rename the title. I instantly knew Happy beat Curious. And no, I think the terran players are just playing better than all the other races right now thanks to their broodwar background or training environment (Slayers/IM house) Yeah, because there are no Zergs or Protosses in any training houses and none of them have Brood War backgrounds. July just started playing Starcraft this year, actually. | ||
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Devil Trigger
United States107 Posts
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
Korea just has a good amount of great, consistent Terrans. That seems to be all there is to it. | ||
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Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
On October 12 2011 22:18 hmunkey wrote: The biggest problem is just that the players using terran are better than the players using zerg or protoss, with only a few exceptions. There is no basis for saying this at all. | ||
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