Power Rank 04/02/2011 - Page 4

On April 03 2011 04:34 Trajan98 wrote:
If u swapped bisu with fbh this ranking would look more believable.

On April 03 2011 06:21 TwoToneTerran wrote:


Why do you say that? Atleast FBH can manage a winning record.

On April 03 2011 08:19 Random_0 wrote:
I have no idea why Hydra has been left off the list. Hydra won an MSL 2 months ago, and has been playing in middling fashion in Proleague since then. This is certainly better than Stork and Horang2.

On April 02 2011 18:00 Mortality wrote:


Stork has also toppled some strong players since his OSL loss including Flash, Fantasy, Bisu (x2), and Stats. In fact every single loss on his record has been to a strong vP player, by ELO the weakest of whom is Baby, by reputation probably Shuttle who is a PvP specialist.

And more importantly... doesn't anyone actually watch Starcraft anymore or are we just going to quote results all day long?

Compare to Hydra: 3-7 in his last 10 ZvT's (mostly against good players, but varied competition), including 1-4 since his MSL win with somewhat embarrassing losses to Really and Iris (watch the games and see for yourself), getting WTF!pwned against Kal in a manner that suggested he was unfamiliar with the timing of reaver/sair and looked... not as strong in ZvZ as he did during MSL even just a few days later.

Personally, I kind of like Hydra. Fuck this shit about how he's "boring," he's managed to figure out how to deal with the timing of the current Protoss attack and he successfully engineered his timing vs Great mid-series. But he's still got some holes in his game that need filling.

On April 03 2011 10:24 Slow Motion wrote:
I always thought that the power rank is trying to list the players who, based on the results from the past month, you think are the best players right now. So it can't just be about statistics or results, but what you think those results show in terms of that player's current skill.

Having said all this I have to say that while there is an arguments that FBH should be where he is based on the number of his wins, I doubt anyone could say FBH is the 5th best BW player right now. It'd be different if he suddenly took down a number of the strongest players last month. That would show a definite ability that might mean he's legitimately better than Baby, Stork, or Bisu right now.

But I think when you look at FBH's wins in the context of the WL structure and the weakness of ACE's other players, then maybe a string of wins against mediocre to weak players is, while still impressive, not an indicator that he is a top 5 player.

On April 03 2011 09:09 Mortality wrote:


Please read comments and discussion before posting questions with obvious answers:



I wrote this just one page back and so far we are only on page 4 so length of the discussion is no excuse.

On April 03 2011 11:17 Lightwip wrote:
I really think your standard is ambiguous. Yes, it's important to see what fashion players win and lose in, but would you really give the nod to someone with awful results that 'played well'? You could always be missing a big flaw in their play, and you have to ask yourself why they can't beat good players when they play so well.
Stork is the best example of this. You somehow think that just because he lost to only all the good vP players he's played, that "playing well" makes him deserve a spot. It sure is a lot easier to play well against weaker opponents too. I could potentially look brilliant playing against a bnet scrub, and Stork could vs average A-class players.

On April 03 2011 12:57 VGhost wrote:


Last month Bisu was an equally good example of this. I know we're all basking in the glory of beating Jaedong this time around, but you look at that 5-4 from last month... I mean yeah he beat Sea, but he lost to Leta's TvP and he's lost against every good PvPer he's faced.

I'm not saying you don't have a point, but picking on Stork seems counter-productive for your own (very clear) fanboy-ness. Sure, the loss to BaBy wasn't real shiny, and sure Stork didn't beat anybody "good" (except Stats, which oh yeah Bisu didn't)... but exactly the same sort of qualifications apply to Bisu for March.

And when you add it all up - who's better than these two, anyway? RorO? Amusing, but despite fanboyism I'll say no. Crazy-Hydra for the all-kill? Maybe... but who do you drop? Do we put Kal on? Calm?

On April 03 2011 14:01 renzy wrote:


Yea..he lost to Leta's TvP, which was 2 fac vs 1 gate expand...YOU try beating, heck, even a D level terran like that.

On April 03 2011 11:17 Lightwip wrote:

I really think your standard is ambiguous. Yes, it's important to see what fashion players win and lose in, but would you really give the nod to someone with awful results that 'played well'? You could always be missing a big flaw in their play, and you have to ask yourself why they can't beat good players when they play so well.
Stork is the best example of this. You somehow think that just because he lost to only all the good vP players he's played, that "playing well" makes him deserve a spot. It sure is a lot easier to play well against weaker opponents too. I could potentially look brilliant playing against a bnet scrub, and Stork could vs average A-class players.
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