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Norway1530 Posts
On May 07 2011 00:28 ~chut~ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2011 07:08 Mortality wrote:
P.S. DJetter was unbelievably biased in his commentary. His rankings weren't as bad, but I'd hardly call them ideal. NaDa was ranked #3 below Anytime when he beat Anytime for his golden mouse and then ranked #5 when he achieved OSL silver against Savior. And then there was Nal_Ra whose PR entry literally said "PLEASE LOSE."
A bit late to comment on that but still : I loved DJEtter bias. Because imo, it didn't interfere too much with the ranks and because it made it look funny. It's much better than being biased and trying to argue that you're not by bringing silly numbers And Nada ranked #3 while Anytime was #2 wasn't bad really. Anytime played great during the whole OSL while Nada barely made his way to final, going through tiebreakers because he had trouble to beat Dongrae. He ended up winning 3-2, he didn't overwhelm Anytime. Well enough with this old stuff, i hope the new PR is out soon 
NaDa played Dongrae in Season3 and defeated Anytime in Season2 
NaDa went 13-3 in Season2 only dropping games to TT and Anytime.
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You're right, i got my memories mixed up. I had to dig up the R&S threads to get them in order:
Truly, in season 2, Nada faced almost no good players.
Who remember Zergman, Jy or TT (the original afrotoss, the damn guy who stopped Yellow with that cheese on Tau Cross) ?
Almost no one.
Light was notorious for his bad TvT at that time.
You can argue about GF, he was good, but he choked often and Nada was his former mentor....
On the other hand, Anytime met :
Midas, a very red hot Midas at that time, he was amongst Savior rivals.
GGplay and Gorush, rather good players at the time (both are on that first ever PR!) and pvz isn't easy.
July, does he need an introduction?
Casy, the title holder at that time, even though he never deserved that title, considering how awfully bad his tvp was.
And, as DJEtter noted, Nada was losing to Mingu on proleague at this time....
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Philippines16 Posts
excited for PR tomorrow ^_^
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the thing that bothers me with Flash is that he's so obsessed with small details such as if his wrist is in top condition or how many millimeters is the distance between his keyboard and screen. While his perfectionist nature is a big reason for his beastly winning percentage, I don't like how he always points out in interviews how the condition in which he played was not absolutely perfect.
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On May 08 2011 05:03 Taekwon wrote:
Next power rank inc !!
YES!!
But how do you know?
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Okay... my ranking. Don't think I'm missing anyone, but you never know.
Caveat: I haven't had much chance to catch up on watching games that have been played since my last ranking (May 3), so there may be some big things that I miss that stats alone can't tell me. (Stats are taken since April 1.)
1. Jaedong (9-3): Same as where I placed him on 5/3, see no reason to change this. I'm certainly not ready to say this is the best JD has ever been (in a relative sense) but he has a fire going that we haven't seen in a long time now. The new KeSPA #1 rank (replacing Fantasy after only 1 month) is well deserved.
2. Bisu (8-3): There's a part of me that doesn't want to see Bisu here after he was eliminated yet again, but really, had it been any other Ro32 group in history would Bisu have dropped out? I'm inclined to say no. Of course, without MSL, Bisu had better advance in OSL, whenever that happens, or he'll drop like a stone. Bisu is the kind of kid who aces all the pop quizzes (PL/prelims) but then bombs the exams (SL) and at the end of the day I'm tired of dealing with the lack of exam results.
3. Flash (8-6): This ranking is more like 2.00001. Flash's current record belies his skill... Most likely he is still the best player in the world and I feel like his opponents have played very solidly to beat him. But the fact of the matter is that he's getting beaten lately... a lot. Well, a lot by Flash standards, but still. There are shades of last December here. I don't feel like he's dropping the ball as much or as badly as he did then -- and indeed, he's continued advancing in MSL -- but after last season's flop it's important that Flash do well this season if he wants to retain his status as best in Broodwar.
4. Hydra (6-4): It feels odd for me to give Hydra #4 in a month where he tied his worst loss streak, but this month has also shown us Hydra facing S-class competition 5 times and winning 4 of those encounters. Other than a couple (freak?) losses to mediocre Zergs, Hydra has been ripping it up against a difficult line-up. Note: ranks 4-7 are all real, real close.
5. Mind (7-2): Rommel is back it seems, blazing his way into MSL Ro8. Mind has been a player I've been calling a dark horse lately. It's time to give him some spotlight. But while his record soars, it's unclear as of yet how he will stand up against a tougher line-up. Worth noting that he's only 10 points away from ELO peaking.
6. Leta (4-3): Leta hasn't been getting as much attention lately, perhaps because he's bouncing back from the worst slump of his career. But boy, oh boy is he bouncing back. How the hell did he overcome ling rushes twice despite going 14cc both times? Since when is 14cc > 5pool? In retrospect, I don't see how Leta was overlooked last month, but I know that overlooking him this month -- when he overcame Soulkey for a Ro8 spot -- would be criminal.
7. Soulkey (8-3): With a record like that against competition like that -- not to mention after playing like that -- it would seem Soulkey is very low. Ultimately, with ranks 4-7 I favored the 3 players who advanced to Ro8 over the one who didn't. It's a tough break and I almost feel like I'm cheating him, but I also feel like he's still got something to prove. Here's hoping for OSL!
8. Zero (6-4): Stop. If there is anybody on Earth who wins vs Bisu and then loses vs Jaehoon in the same month, who do you think it is? That's right folks, it's Zero! Zero's inconsistency never ceases to amaze me. Zero is quickly becoming known as that player who will give you the game of your life and I find him highly entertaining to watch, but what I really want to see Zero do is take off. Well, in the Ro8 again, maybe he has a shot.
9. Light (6-5): The Invisible Terran actually played a pretty hard line-up, but his failure to deliver Rommel's head and his two losses to Hydra keep him down here while they stand up there. However, since transferring to Woongjin, Light's TvP (lack of) skills (which have kept him off numerous PR's) appear to have started improving. Still, considering how bad they were (are?) that doesn't say much.
10. Stork (6-4): Honestly, there's a large part of me that would rather give this spot to FBH, but I can't deny that Storky beat him. Still, Stork has been struggling with the problem of a lack of momentum for months now and is now out of the MSL. It's worth mentioning that the only one of Stork's wins that comes from a player in my top 9 was in a series he lost 1-2.
CBNC:
FBH (4-4): The fact remains that of those 4 losses, 3 were to known Terran killers.
Movie (3-1): Not many games played. The main reason I even put Movie in CBNC was for his performance against Zero. Worth noting that his loss was to Flash and he also won vs ggaemo, so it's not necessarily a bad month.
Iris (5-1): The Berserker has been posting results, but the competition he's been facing... not unskilled, but none of them are over 2150 ELO, none are over 2100 ELO vs T, and only one of them is even being mentioned on my ranking. Not to mention that Iris has been looking worse than Light in TvP lately. In other words, I'm hesitant to think that Iris could produce results against better players.
s2 (5-5): s2 is that player being mentioned. He gets a mention because of what he did in the SWL playoffs. Otherwise he's been atrocious.
Notably Not Ranked:
Fantasy (3-6): Fantasy's current stats betray his skill. He's playing better than the 33% win rate he's giving us. But only 3 wins in 9 games... One month after attaining KeSPA #1, Fantasy made it clear he isn't ready for it.
Baby (1-2): With only 3 games played it's hard to judge Baby fairly. But you have to realize that the reason Baby only played 3 games (2 to guys on the PR) is that he didn't pass the offline prelims for MSL. Tough break, but I don't want to clutter my CBNC needlessly.
Sea (4-5): Sea has had a busy month against top players, but on the whole has failed to meet the challenge.
Horang2 (5-4): I don't see why some people want to rank a sniper who barely made a winning record against mediocre competition and failed to advance in the match he's known for.
Great (5-3): [In the voice of Treebeard] A finalist should play better.
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That is a really good rank, Mortality. I felt the same way about Flash: that he probably have to drop after losing straight up against Much today... But damn it feels like he is too good for that rank. I probably would have switched soulkey and light though because I was very disaponited with Soulkey's performance against Leta. But he was astonishing before that and I haven't seen all his PL games.
It's interesting to notice the amount of players that can play very well and very badly from game to game right now. I think especially of Hydra, Soulkey and Zero. But Flash too looks as brutally dominant as ever one day, and then he looks like just another terran the next day.
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Hi guys, so I accidentally napped for 9 hours upon getting home today? I'll try to have something in the next three-four hours.
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On May 08 2011 12:08 flamewheel wrote:
Hi guys, so I accidentally napped for 9 hours upon getting home today? I'll try to have something in the next three-four hours.
Good evening! Take your time!
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On May 08 2011 12:08 flamewheel wrote:
Hi guys, so I accidentally napped for 9 hours upon getting home today? I'll try to have something in the next three-four hours.
DO
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We waited 7 days so we can wait 1 more if needed. A crappy ranking isn't worth it. If you need time to think things over and review games then take that time. So long as you keep us informed and everything and don't spend time on nothing but DOTA it's alright.
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I just hope Stork clings onto a spot.
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Okay, fair enough. I'll take the night to continue assessing and get it tomorrow. There are a few more games I want to watch, especially the SPL games last night.
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but the spl games last night weren't in the month of april... how would they affect april's standings?
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On May 08 2011 15:13 oldgregg wrote:
but the spl games last night weren't in the month of april... how would they affect april's standings?
That's how many PRs of the past are written. The first two or even second weeks of the next month is factored in for a better analysis. Personally I'm not a fan of it, unless absolutely necessary (aka there's a drought of games for that month, then wait a bit till games are actually played). As it is, I think many things have happened in April that w/e happened in May shouldn't matter.
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yea i agree april was a pretty hectic month!
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Yeah, watch Baby's game tonight and I hope that will push him up to atleast CBNC or a low spot on PR. Mind is playing really well lately, too, but nobody is arguing that.
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On May 08 2011 14:42 flamewheel wrote:
Okay, fair enough. I'll take the night to continue assessing and get it tomorrow. There are a few more games I want to watch, especially the SPL games last night.
looking forward to it :D <3
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Netherlands45349 Posts
On May 08 2011 14:42 flamewheel wrote:
Okay, fair enough. I'll take the night to continue assessing and get it tomorrow. There are a few more games I want to watch, especially the SPL games last night.
+ Show Spoiler +NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORK
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