EPTPower Rank 04/02/2011 - Page 28
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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L0thar
987 Posts
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VGhost
United States3606 Posts
On May 06 2011 00:09 Cpadolf wrote: Yeah, it changed its format to allow for non-progamers to participate in open qualifiers all around the country. This means it'll take a lot longer for it to reach the stage where the "real" tournament beings (probably another month or so). That's actually pretty sweet. Honestly that seems to indicate that OGN at least has been paying attention to what's made the SC2 foreign scene take off so fast (apart from massive PR campaigns) - good signs for BW enduring going forward if they're looking at a more popular approach. Not that that really has anything to do with the PR, just saying. | ||
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
 I know its still pretty much at 70% (actually 69.95%), but I honestly can't remember a time when Flash wasn't above 70% in every match-up O.o Last time he wasn't over 70% in everything was April of 2010 when his vP was like 69% | ||
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
On May 06 2011 00:34 Holgerius wrote: In my mind Flash is still player in the world one would least want to go up against in a Bo5, regardless of match-up. I am 100% behind JD as #1 though, because he has plain and simple been getting better results than Flash overall recently, trashed Flash in their two head to head face offs, and has shown absolutely sick games in general. agreeing on that flash in my opinion is still the scariest guy to beat in a best of 5 (talking as a huge jaedong fan) thats not me agreeing on flash having the better odds on taking jaedong in a bo5 in his current state but vs a random guy i agree flash is scarier however another month like this one and i would even suggest jaedong odds to win vs flash in a bo5 would be to his advantage | ||
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Mumei
United States254 Posts
On May 06 2011 03:54 Yxes2211 wrote: Anybody else notice Flash fell below 70% vZ I know its still pretty much at 70% (actually 69.95%), but I honestly can't remember a time when Flash wasn't above 70% in every match-up O.o Last time he wasn't over 70% in everything was April of 2010 when his vP was like 69% He was below 70% overall as recently as the end of January 2010 (69.83%); when he had 73% vT, 69% vs Z, and 67% vP. At the end of January 2009, he was at 66.18%, with 69% vT, 61% vZ, and 67% vP. People sometimes forget that Flash wasn't always 70%+ in all three match-ups; it's the result of two years of winning 75 - 77% of the time. He's also dipped below 70% vZ on a couple occasions besides this. | ||
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jorge_the_awesome
United States463 Posts
On May 05 2011 13:50 ]343[ wrote: the bygone days of fakesteve, when the world was somewhat young, all the women were strong, all the men were good-looking, and all the children were above average. Wow I just read this while listening to his show. | ||
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On May 06 2011 00:34 Holgerius wrote: In my mind Flash is still player in the world one would least want to go up against in a Bo5, regardless of match-up. I am 100% behind JD as #1 though, because he has plain and simple been getting better results than Flash overall recently, trashed Flash in their two head to head face offs, and has shown absolutely sick games in general. I quite agree. My impression is that Flash has now what Jaedong had when he was at his peak. He just knows he's the best, that's why he doesn't always give a 100% or sometimes tries to put on a show for his fans instead of "just" winning. It takes a loss to really "wake the dragon", so that he develops a hunger to absolutely demolish his opponent.* That's why I think he's still the scariest player in a BoX. *+ Show Spoiler + Watch games 2 and 3 of his MSL series vs Really. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5570 Posts
On May 06 2011 05:48 Mooncat wrote: I quite agree. My impression is that Flash has now what Jaedong had when he was at his peak. He just knows he's the best, that's why he doesn't always give a 100% or sometimes tries to put on a show for his fans instead of "just" winning. It takes a loss to really "wake the dragon", so that he develops a hunger to absolutely demolish his opponent.* That's why I think he's still the scariest player in a BoX. *+ Show Spoiler + Watch games 2 and 3 of his MSL series vs Really. This doesn't make sens. If Flash lost games because he doesn't take his opponents seriously that would hit him in random proleague games, not in games he has to win like in the starleagues or the WL final, or just about any game he plays against Jaedong. Those are games he wants to win against people he doesn't underestimate. If anything the strange build against Jaedong in their second game suggests the contrary: he is scared. Besides, the timing is just awful. He could have had this last season just after taking dual golds. Now he must feel that he has a lot to prove after being knocked out in the round of 32 in both starleagues and losing his kespa rank. | ||
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
Still, I think Jaedong is definitely making the rivalry more interesting. | ||
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
- Any last word? ▲ Recently, I had a few personal issues which made it difficult for me to play. Clearly, he is not at top form now. Hope he will sort out all his problems. | ||
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On May 06 2011 06:29 Elroi wrote: This doesn't make sens. If Flash lost games because he doesn't take his opponents seriously that would hit him in random proleague games, not in games he has to win like in the starleagues or the WL final, or just about any game he plays against Jaedong. Those are games he wants to win against people he doesn't underestimate. If anything the strange build against Jaedong in their second game suggests the contrary: he is scared. Besides, the timing is just awful. He could have had this last season just after taking dual golds. Now he must feel that he has a lot to prove after being knocked out in the round of 32 in both starleagues and losing his kespa rank. You misunderstand me. I'm not saying that every single one of Flash's losses can be accounted to him not taking his opponents seriously. There are games where he makes too many mistakes or gets outplayed too. That build vs. JD recently doesn't suggest anything in my book. It was what it was - a somewhat incomprehensible choice of opening. Furthermore if the "timing" is right or not doesn't really matter as I just stated an impression of mine. To me it feels like Flash enters "wrath of god mode" when he loses a game, as if he feels insulted that someone dared to beat him, resulting in a stronger performance in the next game. This characteristic, among other things of course, makes him very dangerous to face in a series. Whether my assessment is correct or not remains to be seen. Besides, it's just a subjective opinion anyway. | ||
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xarthaz
1704 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:22 Yodo wrote: Dont forget Flash's interview: Clearly, he is not at top form now. Hope he will sort out all his problems. Uhhuh. Remember JD used the same line during his late 2010/early 2011 "slump"? With all due respect to the players, we cant deny that sometimes they just look for excuses instead of straight up admitting "i got owned", especially the top players, because the whole reason they are able to stay at the top, is the deep belief that they ARE the best. This is emotion what gives them the will power, the creativity to use their abilities to their fullest extent, that less than top tier players are not able to. If they admitted straight up that they got owned, it would prevent their "winning emotion" from making them play at their best. | ||
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oBlade
United States5132 Posts
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xarthaz
1704 Posts
On May 06 2011 19:34 oBlade wrote: Try not to overemphasize Flash's build choice in KT vs Oz. They have used lots of builds against each other, some more frequently than they would against a random player. Flash 14ccs so often vs Jaedong, sometimes he pulls out killer valkonic, sometimes 5rax, or what about Triathlon? If memory serves, he 14cced straight to starport off of one barracks. Meanwhile, Jaedong has 5pooled, 3hatch before gas to lurkers, to 2base lurker/drop play. His picking fast vessel doesn't have anything to do with being scared - he must have thought he had good chances with it. It's not gimmicky play that failed. Sometimes you just lose. It might well have been scared - seeing how JD basically hard countered the midgame mnm pushed of flash in their msl group d match, so flash wanted to get to lategame asap by skipping the marine push phase | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On May 06 2011 19:46 xarthaz wrote: It might well have been scared - seeing how JD basically hard countered the midgame mnm pushed of flash in their msl group d match, so flash wanted to get to lategame asap by skipping the marine push phase Huh? What are you talking about? oO | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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xarthaz
1704 Posts
It seems that with Jaedongesque micro and well timed production, it is possible for zerg to take map control during the mid game while maintaining tech progress, despite what the regular meta game suggests(especially against a 4 barracks terran). | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
And DotA. | ||
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
On May 04 2011 07:08 Mortality wrote: P.S. DJetter was unbelievably biased in his commentary. His rankings weren't as bad, but I'd hardly call them ideal. NaDa was ranked #3 below Anytime when he beat Anytime for his golden mouse and then ranked #5 when he achieved OSL silver against Savior. And then there was Nal_Ra whose PR entry literally said "PLEASE LOSE." A bit late to comment on that but still : I loved DJEtter bias. Because imo, it didn't interfere too much with the ranks and because it made it look funny. It's much better than being biased and trying to argue that you're not by bringing silly numbers And Nada ranked #3 while Anytime was #2 wasn't bad really. Anytime played great during the whole OSL while Nada barely made his way to final, going through tiebreakers because he had trouble to beat Dongrae. He ended up winning 3-2, he didn't overwhelm Anytime. Well enough with this old stuff, i hope the new PR is out soon  | ||
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