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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
May 08 2011 13:34 GMT
#581
In all honesty, the Bisu/Flash placement is really the most dividing issue of the PR. While Flash has rapidly been losing force this time around, Bisu has been doing great except for that one series in the MSL group. He did do excellent in WL though.
Also, Reality deserves at least a shoutout for that evil build.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 14:07:22
May 08 2011 13:45 GMT
#582
It can't be that dividing. Flash has had some cruddy losses so that's more than enough reason to put him at #3. Bisu lost to Flash a couple times to get knocked out of the MSL so that's a reason not to put him over Flash. Either version is completely reasonable.
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
May 08 2011 15:05 GMT
#583
On May 08 2011 15:21 newvsoldschool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 15:13 oldgregg wrote:
but the spl games last night weren't in the month of april... how would they affect april's standings?


That's how many PRs of the past are written. The first two or even second weeks of the next month is factored in for a better analysis. Personally I'm not a fan of it, unless absolutely necessary (aka there's a drought of games for that month, then wait a bit till games are actually played). As it is, I think many things have happened in April that w/e happened in May shouldn't matter.


It would be rather silly to post a ranking based strictly on April when new data is available that could potentially invalidate such a ranking.



Regarding the current ranking: Stork drops to CBNC. Fantasy moves up to CBNC. Consider adding Baby and Horang2 to CBNC. Either FBH or Movie slides in at #10. Mind and Hydra switch places (Mind now #4). Consider bumping s2 off CBNC.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
May 08 2011 15:33 GMT
#584
Mind in top5 would make me really happy. He deserves that for his performance.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
May 08 2011 16:57 GMT
#585
On May 09 2011 00:05 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 15:21 newvsoldschool wrote:
On May 08 2011 15:13 oldgregg wrote:
but the spl games last night weren't in the month of april... how would they affect april's standings?


That's how many PRs of the past are written. The first two or even second weeks of the next month is factored in for a better analysis. Personally I'm not a fan of it, unless absolutely necessary (aka there's a drought of games for that month, then wait a bit till games are actually played). As it is, I think many things have happened in April that w/e happened in May shouldn't matter.


It would be rather silly to post a ranking based strictly on April when new data is available that could potentially invalidate such a ranking.
Not necessarily. If the point of the monthly power rank is to chart how well progamers are doing each month, then a ranking based strictly on April would make perfect sense. (If it's to approximate an up-to-date current ranking of progamers then no matter how up-to-date it is when released, it loses relevance as the month goes on.)
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gen.Sun
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States539 Posts
May 08 2011 17:24 GMT
#586
Wtf stork pay attention to your units. You have such good strategy and micro, but make so many dumb cockups.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
May 08 2011 20:54 GMT
#587
On May 09 2011 01:57 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 00:05 Mortality wrote:
On May 08 2011 15:21 newvsoldschool wrote:
On May 08 2011 15:13 oldgregg wrote:
but the spl games last night weren't in the month of april... how would they affect april's standings?


That's how many PRs of the past are written. The first two or even second weeks of the next month is factored in for a better analysis. Personally I'm not a fan of it, unless absolutely necessary (aka there's a drought of games for that month, then wait a bit till games are actually played). As it is, I think many things have happened in April that w/e happened in May shouldn't matter.


It would be rather silly to post a ranking based strictly on April when new data is available that could potentially invalidate such a ranking.
Not necessarily. If the point of the monthly power rank is to chart how well progamers are doing each month, then a ranking based strictly on April would make perfect sense. (If it's to approximate an up-to-date current ranking of progamers then no matter how up-to-date it is when released, it loses relevance as the month goes on.)


1.) It's not particularly meant to be a "monthly chart." It's a ranking released monthly rather than a rank of only one month's play. (Everyone who I have ever seen claim they are talking about one month's play was lying anyway -- they ALWAYS draw on historical precedents to shape their perceptions, which is OKAY, but it's not "one month only" if you do that. A true one month only ranking would effectively be like setting everyone's ELO to 2000 at the start of the month, every single month, which is not what anybody does.)

2.) Not many games are played per month so our perceptions of skill are shaped by a very limited amount of data. New data puts older results into perspective. The more data points (games played), the easier it is to correctly gauge a player's strengths and weaknesses.

3.) Everyone has already seen the new games and will be talking about them and questioning why you ranked things the way you did when new data suggests that a certain result was a fluke or that Player A happens to be really good at a certain strategy, but is not looking well-rounded, etc.



Let's go back in time one month. Suppose the 4/1/2011 ranking had been postponed to like 4/10/2011. Can you imagine the squawking that would have occurred over Bisu being ranked #8 after the way he played in the SWL playoffs? (And to be clear there is no way that based on March I would have been okay with Bisu at anything above #6 at the very highest, but based on data from early April there would be no way to justify keeping him out of the top 4.) Discussion over PR can be very fun, but it starts getting frustrating when you have 100 pages of redundant fanboy bitching.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
May 09 2011 18:55 GMT
#588
Sucked that Bisu lost against ZerO ... ㅠㅠ ... but oh well +6 and MOOT! lol
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Sworn
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada920 Posts
May 16 2011 07:14 GMT
#589
Yeeaah welcome back to the top Jaedong now take everything and show Flash your throbbing manhood
"Duty is heavy as a mountain, death is light as a feather." CJ Entus Fighting! <3 Effort
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