On April 02 2011 11:09 Lightwip wrote: Not at all, I just don't think that Stork deserves a spot on here in the first place. I'm not going to be satisfied with Bisu's placement either way, I'll just have to wait a month. But would you like to talk about Stork instead?
If Stork doesn't, then Bisu doesn't. Both Stork and Bisu beat some scrubs and lost to some decent people. The only anomaly is Stork losing to Shuttle, which IIRC was a BO loss and Shuttle actually has very nice PvP.
No wonder you want people to talk only about Stork and not Bisu XD
Stork nose-dived last month going 0-3 vs fantasy and 0-3 vs Zero, also stopped producing in PL and doesn't get dropped. Stork goes 5-6 the next month, but retains rank 7. Two average months got Hydra knocked out of the PR. Why is Stork still here, other than his reputation, as usual -__-
On April 02 2011 16:20 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Stork nose-dived last month going 0-3 vs fantasy and 0-3 vs Zero, also stopped producing in PL and doesn't get dropped. Stork goes 5-6 the next month, but retains rank 7. Two average months got Hydra knocked out of the PR. Why is Stork still here, other than his reputation, as usual -__-
TBLS got rep... Shouldn't be shocking that the 4 pillars need to prove "less".
On April 02 2011 16:20 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Stork nose-dived last month going 0-3 vs fantasy and 0-3 vs Zero, also stopped producing in PL and doesn't get dropped. Stork goes 5-6 the next month, but retains rank 7. Two average months got Hydra knocked out of the PR. Why is Stork still here, other than his reputation, as usual -__-
TBLS got rep... Shouldn't be shocking that the 4 pillars need to prove "less".
Stork has also toppled some strong players since his OSL loss including Flash, Fantasy, Bisu (x2), and Stats. In fact every single loss on his record has been to a strong vP player, by ELO the weakest of whom is Baby, by reputation probably Shuttle who is a PvP specialist.
And more importantly... doesn't anyone actually watch Starcraft anymore or are we just going to quote results all day long?
Compare to Hydra: 3-7 in his last 10 ZvT's (mostly against good players, but varied competition), including 1-4 since his MSL win with somewhat embarrassing losses to Really and Iris (watch the games and see for yourself), getting WTF!pwned against Kal in a manner that suggested he was unfamiliar with the timing of reaver/sair and looked... not as strong in ZvZ as he did during MSL even just a few days later.
Personally, I kind of like Hydra. Fuck this shit about how he's "boring," he's managed to figure out how to deal with the timing of the current Protoss attack and he successfully engineered his timing vs Great mid-series. But he's still got some holes in his game that need filling.
Great write up as always. I do, for once, disagree with a lot of the placements (I'd switch Bisu and Stats for one, I feel Bisu has gotten treated a bit harshly for losing some games against pretty good players and then sweeping his MST group as opposed to Stats). Hydra hasn't really played enough games to drop him completely off either in my opinion. But no matter, like always it's on time and excellently done!
Solid ranking. I like how you confine yourself to the month at hand while taking in account not only results but also quality of play. I like boring players a little more than you do, but I believe it's actually better for the PR to highlight the flashy players like Zero rather than the engines like Roro.
Engine is such a good word to describe Roro, he is the single most invisible-yet-competent zerg player (alongside maybe Hyun) that never gets any love because he's so very average.
On April 02 2011 09:51 DMXD wrote: Another good PR. Bisu... what happen to your godly pvp man???
btw cute baby pics ^_^
it's been average for pretty much all season. idk why, think part of it is scouting (lol his game vs free where he never scouts free's two hidden bases all game), maybe he's too predictable (going back a bit, but his game vs stats in last years' SPL final he got outplayed so easily)
On April 02 2011 09:55 Phradamon wrote:
Also, Horang2 is is like flipping the coin outside PvP, just like BeSt[HyO] was in 2008.
Best regards!
horang2's PvP is godlike (actually #1 ELO right now), if you haven't seen his game vs afrotoss, do so, but if you actually watch his games his vT, vZ is actually evolving to the point where it's getting competent and he can't really be considered just a vP sniper
FWIW, last night's playoff would leave fantasy at A (loss to Stats replaced by loss to Jaedong), drop Jaedong to F (adds a third loss, loss more "recent" than wins; firebathero C, BaBy D, Horang2 E), and move Bisu up to I (win over Jaedong replaces loss to Stork; RorO J, Kal K, free L, ZerO M).
EPT
