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Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
March 07 2011 21:20 GMT
#2281
Brandon Roy, one of the best scorers in the league, not a super star? Danny Granger never blew up, but he is about to lead his pacers team to a playoff series, Tayshaun Prince has a ring, and probably the best block of the entire decade. I knew youd just try to discredit my players by not calling them superstars, but whats your criteria exactly. Nash and Dirk may be confident in their skills, but they definitely arent cocky in the same way that Amare, Lebron, Kobe are cocky.

Oh another name to add to the list, Gasol (the good one)
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
March 07 2011 21:31 GMT
#2282
On March 08 2011 06:14 Miss_Cleo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2011 06:08 Holcan wrote:
well thats easy to answer since they are my favourite players !

ray allen, brandon roy, steve nash, dirk, tim duncan, danny granger, kevin durant, tayshaun prince, the list goes on im just to lazy to continue.



I'm talking about the top-tier players. I'll give you Durant, Duncan, and Ray-Ray. Nash and Dirk both are cocky, in their own unique way.


who do you call a top tier player? because that's a lot of them right there
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
March 07 2011 21:43 GMT
#2283
The Heat haven't got a single low-post scoring threat. Late in games (and in the playoffs) where the pace slows to a grind, they aren't going to be nearly as effective as they are in the first 2 1/2 quarters.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13430 Posts
March 07 2011 23:35 GMT
#2284
On March 08 2011 06:20 Holcan wrote:
Brandon Roy, one of the best scorers in the league, not a super star? Danny Granger never blew up, but he is about to lead his pacers team to a playoff series, Tayshaun Prince has a ring, and probably the best block of the entire decade. I knew youd just try to discredit my players by not calling them superstars, but whats your criteria exactly. Nash and Dirk may be confident in their skills, but they definitely arent cocky in the same way that Amare, Lebron, Kobe are cocky.

Oh another name to add to the list, Gasol (the good one)


Roy is past it. Sad to say, but true. Even the Blazers seems to have moved on.

And after early promise, Danny Granger has developed into a bona fide chucker.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 23:54:56
March 07 2011 23:54 GMT
#2285
On March 08 2011 05:59 Miss_Cleo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2011 05:08 Ace wrote:
there aren't that many "cocky, self absorbed" idiots in the NBA. Especially at the super star level. With the exception of Lebron for one major incident and maybe Kobe (who isn't as cocky as people think) who else fits that description?



My question to you is, who doesn't fit that description (top-tier players)?

From my perspective, I can only count a few superstars that are genuinely humble and down to earth. This really isn't their fault though, as they are treated like gods everywhere they go. I'm just saying it is nice to see NBA superstars who doesn't fit into the stereotype of an NBA player with a Rosie-O-Donnell-sized ego.


None of them are really cocky except Lebron and Kobe. That also has a lot to do with media spin and taking their quotes out of context. A ton of those guys are charitable, try hard to please fans and do work hard and understand that even being the best doesn't entitle them to being better than most. Can you name at least 3 incidents from each player that shows that they are cocky, self absorbed assholes?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
March 07 2011 23:57 GMT
#2286
I never said Roy would ever play a decent game again, i merely pointed him out as a humble superstar, which he is, or was.

Danny Granger is still the best player on a playoff team, and takes 13 shots a game, no clue how that is a chucker, especially considering he also takes 7 FT per game.

Anyways you never really clarified the criteria to use for a superstar, even after thats what i asked for, so you are just strawmanning my arguement.

Basically you are just saying that players in large markets can be superstars...
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 23:59:49
March 07 2011 23:59 GMT
#2287
On March 08 2011 08:35 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2011 06:20 Holcan wrote:
Brandon Roy, one of the best scorers in the league, not a super star? Danny Granger never blew up, but he is about to lead his pacers team to a playoff series, Tayshaun Prince has a ring, and probably the best block of the entire decade. I knew youd just try to discredit my players by not calling them superstars, but whats your criteria exactly. Nash and Dirk may be confident in their skills, but they definitely arent cocky in the same way that Amare, Lebron, Kobe are cocky.

Oh another name to add to the list, Gasol (the good one)


Roy is past it. Sad to say, but true. Even the Blazers seems to have moved on.

And after early promise, Danny Granger has developed into a bona fide chucker.


Brandon Roy's story is a really sad one. It is irrational of me to say but I have no doubt that he was a Hall of Famer. He was so good, his 2008 season: total genius.

EDIT: "was going to be a Hall of Famer" is probably more accurate. Don't want to upset anyone.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
March 08 2011 00:57 GMT
#2288
The thing that puzzles me about Lebron is that he is fully capable of doing everything in the post that Griffin can, and yet insists on playing like a guard all the time. He's got the size, the strength, the athleticism, the footwork, the perimeter shot, the first step to just burn his defenders, etc. If he could develop into a legitimate low-post threat, MIA would be so much better off in situations where the game slows down, i.e. late game situations.
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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
March 08 2011 01:00 GMT
#2289
A quick Google of "Lebron in the post" resulted in this interesting article. Not sure if I buy the whole unleashing his secret prowess in the post in the playoffs, particularly since they desperately need to do something right now in the midst of this losing streak.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/26/2034065/miami-heats-lebron-james-post.html
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yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
March 08 2011 01:50 GMT
#2290
Lebron should go in the post. They need more post presence. I hope he does not do that since I am a celtic fan :D
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-08 02:14:51
March 08 2011 02:14 GMT
#2291
Ya they definitely need a post presence...Bosh isn't cutting it and Lebron could definitely post up. Lebron and Wade kind of slow down the movement of the ball sometimes with the way they play, so it would only benefit them. They are in no means terrible, but they could be better from set plays it seems sometimes. Some screening, cutting, posting, ball movement etc..
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Itzeddiieee
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)787 Posts
March 08 2011 02:25 GMT
#2292
the knicks are dominating jazz..

-always been a knicks fan.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
March 08 2011 02:34 GMT
#2293
What's left of the jazz.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
March 08 2011 02:41 GMT
#2294
Ya lol, the only person more important than Deron Williams to that team was Jerry Sloan, and now without either of them...
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
MooMOo
Profile Joined March 2010
180 Posts
March 08 2011 02:44 GMT
#2295
Dont no If the poll has been in this thread. But adding it anyways :D. ( Only including teams that I think really have a shot, dont get offended if your team is not on :/)

Poll: Who will the NBA Championship

Los Angles Lakers (8)
 
47%

Boston Celtics (5)
 
29%

Chicago Bulls (2)
 
12%

Miam Heat (1)
 
6%

San Antonio Spurs (1)
 
6%

Orlando Magic (0)
 
0%

Dallas Mavericks (0)
 
0%

Oklahoma City Thunder (0)
 
0%

17 total votes

Your vote: Who will the NBA Championship

(Vote): Chicago Bulls
(Vote): Boston Celtics
(Vote): Orlando Magic
(Vote): Miam Heat
(Vote): Los Angles Lakers
(Vote): San Antonio Spurs
(Vote): Dallas Mavericks
(Vote): Oklahoma City Thunder

MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
March 08 2011 02:46 GMT
#2296
Well we know MooMoo loves the Bulls
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
March 08 2011 02:56 GMT
#2297
+1 for Lakers. After watching that game against the Spurs... the lakers look really scary. That loss aganist the Cavs was a fluke/wake up call. I don't see Celtics/Magic/Bulls taking this from Kobe/Gasol.

lulz at Heat. I seriously don't think they have a chance at even making it to the NBA finals.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
MooMOo
Profile Joined March 2010
180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-08 03:07:17
March 08 2011 03:06 GMT
#2298
On March 08 2011 11:56 Silentness wrote:
+1 for Lakers. After watching that game against the Spurs... the lakers look really scary. That loss aganist the Cavs was a fluke/wake up call. I don't see Celtics/Magic/Bulls taking this from Kobe/Gasol.

lulz at Heat. I seriously don't think they have a chance at even making it to the NBA finals.


I dont think the Magic Heat or OKC, can win it but I suppose they have a very very outside chance so I included them, It also corresponds to the top 4 teams in each division ATM.
Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-08 03:21:16
March 08 2011 03:10 GMT
#2299
+1 for Lakers. Mostly because they probably have the best chance of making it to the Finals out of everybody. Heat/Celtics probably have a 50/50 chance against LA, but they have to get through each other plus Chicago/Orlando. Whereas LA matches up well against San Antonio, and their advantage over Dallas is that more of their talent is concentrated into their starting lineup, and in the playoffs your bench isn't the same advantage as it is in the regular season since starters are playing more minutes in a playoff game.

Two reasons I think the Heat are underrated for the playoffs. First, as I mentioned, your starting 5 matters more in the postseason when their minutes go up by 2-4 per game. Miami arguably has the best starters in the NBA, and likewise has one of the worst benches especially amongst contenders. Second, I think defending Miami's players, especially Lebron who combines explosiveness and strength, will wear the opposing players out over the course of a 7 game series.
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-08 03:21:14
March 08 2011 03:19 GMT
#2300
On March 08 2011 11:56 Silentness wrote:
+1 for Lakers. After watching that game against the Spurs... the lakers look really scary. That loss aganist the Cavs was a fluke/wake up call. I don't see Celtics/Magic/Bulls taking this from Kobe/Gasol.

lulz at Heat. I seriously don't think they have a chance at even making it to the NBA finals.

Yes, and the Heat were 7.5 point favorites against the Bulls. Ridiculous. The public is effing stupid: Because it's like yo' dude, we stompin' cats on NBA Live with LBJ and Flash (i.e. D-Wade).

Spoelstra telling the media some of the players cried in the locker room is fricking hilarious.

What a bunch of posers.
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