EPTNBA 2010-2011 Season - Page 116
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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cma1681
United States59 Posts
On March 08 2011 13:02 cLutZ wrote: The Heat's biggest playoff weakness is Wade. There is a 50% chance his body breaks down from the combined regular season + postseason. Realistically he should be playing 30 mins a game right now, same with Bosh (who seems to have some nagging injuries). Unfortunately their backups suck so IF they played the right amount of minutes they would probably get the 4 or 5 seed. There's nothing wrong with resting the starters and getting a lower seed. See what the Celtics did last season; they easily could have gotten a no. 2 or 3 seed, but chose to rest their starters. Had they played hard all season, I really doubt they would've gotten past the Cavs and Magic. You say Wade is the Heat's biggest playoff weakness, but he's also, what I think, to be their biggest playoff strength. He's been a beast in the past in playoffs, so if he's healthy, maybe he can turn it up a notch. Too bad Lebrick will screw it up anyways! | ||
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MooMOo
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To recap that lols, the 2/3 seed battle wont affect anything but the 1 seed in the east this year will be HUGE and I think whoever gets it wins the east. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On March 08 2011 13:13 MooMOo wrote: There is something wrong with resting your starters THIS SEASON. Normally the top couple seed's are not that important, this season is different. Assuming everything works out in round 1 of the playoffs with no major upsets. This puts the 2 seed vs the 3 seed in the 2nd round. While the number 1 seed plays 4/5. Which will be atlanta/Magic Huge difference between playing a 5/6 game series vs atl/magic. and playing (chic/bost/magic) depending on perspective. The team this is MOST true for is boston. Boston I believe will beat the bulls and heat in the 2nd round. but because of there age if they have to beat the heat AND the bulls, they would falter to whoever they played 2nd. To recap that lols, the 2/3 seed battle wont affect anything but the 1 seed in the east this year will be HUGE and I think whoever gets it wins the east. In the east the #1 will play Philly/Indiana (aka sweep/5game series) then NY/Atlanta/Orlando (5-6 game series). The #2 will probably sweep then play the heat/bulls, but the #3 has to play a tough 1st round, then a tough 2nd round then (obviously) a tough ECF. Seeing is a big advantage. In the west everyone is a tough out, so less so. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 08 2011 12:10 Signet wrote: +1 for Lakers. Mostly because they probably have the best chance of making it to the Finals out of everybody. Heat/Celtics probably have a 50/50 chance against LA, but they have to get through each other plus Chicago/Orlando. Whereas LA matches up well against San Antonio, and their advantage over Dallas is that more of their talent is concentrated into their starting lineup, and in the playoffs your bench isn't the same advantage as it is in the regular season since starters are playing more minutes in a playoff game. Two reasons I think the Heat are underrated for the playoffs. First, as I mentioned, your starting 5 matters more in the postseason when their minutes go up by 2-4 per game. Miami arguably has the best starters in the NBA, and likewise has one of the worst benches especially amongst contenders. Second, I think defending Miami's players, especially Lebron who combines explosiveness and strength, will wear the opposing players out over the course of a 7 game series. the bench matters in the playoffs. A lot. Starters may play more but even 10 minutes of solid bench production goes a long way. Ask the Celtics. On March 08 2011 13:13 MooMOo wrote: There is something wrong with resting your starters THIS SEASON. Normally the top couple seed's are not that important, this season is different. Assuming everything works out in round 1 of the playoffs with no major upsets. This puts the 2 seed vs the 3 seed in the 2nd round. While the number 1 seed plays 4/5. Which will be atlanta/Magic Huge difference between playing a 5/6 game series vs atl/magic. and playing (chic/bost/magic) depending on perspective. The team this is MOST true for is boston. Boston I believe will beat the bulls and heat in the 2nd round. but because of there age if they have to beat the heat AND the bulls, they would falter to whoever they played 2nd. To recap that lols, the 2/3 seed battle wont affect anything but the 1 seed in the east this year will be HUGE and I think whoever gets it wins the east. Boston did it last year as the #4 seed. They can do it again but it will be much harder with Shaq and J.Oneal. @clutz: Wade's body breaking down? It happened once in 07-08 with the surgeries. When has it happened again? | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On March 08 2011 13:37 Ace wrote: the bench matters in the playoffs. A lot. Starters may play more but even 10 minutes of solid bench production goes a long way. Ask the Celtics. Oh, it matters no doubt. Just that relatively speaking it matters more in the regular season, when those players are spending more minutes per game on the floor. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Wade's 05 playoff run was the one I think when he officially "broke out". After that his ceiling (which people thought wasn't going to be high) just elevated to "this guy might be the next Kobe/MJ" levels. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
EDIT: 08-09 Wade was absolutely God-like, btw. | ||
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city42
1656 Posts
On March 08 2011 13:49 Ace wrote: Maybe I'm getting my seasons mixed up. 08-09 was the MVP year but he only played 51 games? damn :/ Wade's 05 playoff run was the one I think when he officially "broke out". After that his ceiling (which people thought wasn't going to be high) just elevated to "this guy might be the next Kobe/MJ" levels. Yeah he got hurt in the 05 playoffs, and the Heat probably would have gone to the finals otherwise. Not sure how a Heat-Spurs final would have gone down. I think as a rookie Wade had a buzzer beater in the playoffs, but 05 was the breakout year. | ||
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cma1681
United States59 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Edit: And Months ago when FQD asked me if Miami could beat Chicago in a series I said it's either a 6 or 7 game series. A lot having to do with Chicago's killer D and murderous bench advantage over Miami. That team doesn't get a lot of credit for how well their 2nd unit matches up with just about anyone. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On March 08 2011 14:16 cma1681 wrote: Why doesn't Wade take any game-ending shots? I seem to see Eddie House, Lebron, or Mike Miller taking most of the final shots. Wade's got to be the most clutch of any of these guys. Hmm, I disagree with Ace. I think that the biggest reason is that Wade is not a strong shooter - he does possess the "superstar" quality, where every shot he takes is at least a 33% shot but Flash should not be taking threes, if it can be helped. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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cma1681
United States59 Posts
The Bulls bench is one of the deepest in the league, and with Thibs coaching, that D is unbelievable. He'll probably get coach of the year at this rate, but I STILL don't think he gets enough credit. I think Thibs and Brewer have been the biggest addition to Chicago's team (yes, even more so than Boozer). EDIT: A fun video for all you Heat haters out there: | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
oh I didn't know he specifically meant 3 pointers. In that case Wade should not be shooting them. Well, I don't think that cma1681 meant specifically threes, but because Wade lacks that skill, he tends to be limited in end of quarter and end of game situations. So down 3 with 10 seconds, Wade shouldn't get the shot. Down 2? Down 1? Yeah, go with Flash. I think it was game 3 or 4 of the Celtics Heat playoffs series last season, where I decided to never doubt Wade. The Celtics were triple-teaming Wade and he was still scoring at will. I think maybe 40 points? And when they had Rondo guarding him... he was still dominating. And Rondo's no slouch on defense. This is a great point. Wade and Lebron beat beastly teams and made deep playoff runs with Jason Kapono, Eric Snow, Larry Hughes, Keyon Dooling...Eddie and Damon Jones...geez. They might not win a championship this year, but who wants to play the Heat with Dwyane Wade and Lebron James? | ||
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FQD1911
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FQD1911
83 Posts
On March 08 2011 15:05 slyboogie wrote: This is a great point. Wade and Lebron beat beastly teams and made deep playoff runs with Jason Kapono, Eric Snow, Larry Hughes, Keyon Dooling...Eddie and Damon Jones...geez. They might not win a championship this year, but who wants to play the Heat with Dwyane Wade and Lebron James? The Bulls :-) EDIT: sorry about the double post. will try to watch that. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
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BalliSLife
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