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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-15 06:25:16
March 22 2005 15:38 GMT
#1
Idea for this thread comes from frenchman Taiche. Basicly from now on I'll be adding a link to any threads that contain good advice whenever I spot one. Threads will be listed by matchup. Hopefully it will become a handy list in time.

I'll post either interesting specific threads because I like them, or frequently asked newbie questions because I don't want them to be asked again



PvT


Beating ship/vult harass terran started by uhjoo

Observer upgrades? started by MyLostTemple

Armor upgrades? started by MyLostTemple

PvT Guidelines Started by BigBalls

Choosing when to fight started by Resonate

TvP


Nostalgia basics started by WickeD

Biomech in TvP Not too sure on the quality of advice but good discussion nevertheless

Luna basics started by VerticalHorizon

PvR on forbidden zone started by ronhaak

Gundam and how to beat it started by jjun212

Beating shuttle at 6v9 started by exalted

Ghosts in TvP look for drone's posts, I still think he's wrong there (though I'm in doubt) but it's very very interesting regardless

Beating a zealot rush Why protoss players get their core quickly and how you kill them if they don't

TvP luna discussion started by TKWL

Early game TvP by exalted

Building Placement Thread with great pics. How to defend with rines and buildings vs zealots. Made by Skyglow

Nice Terran guide, all matchups, lovely by DaZe <3<3

TvT

Nice Terran guide, all matchups, lovely by DaZe <3<3

TvZ


Marine attack or armor first? started by JudasT

TvZ 2rax tech guide started by GroT

Can vultures work? started by Excalibur_Z

Timing in TvZ Weird thread that talks about a great multitude of TvZ subjects. Not for the easily distracted.

Playing against 2 hatch and three hatch builds. A great discussion about how to adapt your T build order (mostly FE) vs different zerg openings. The way the strat forum should be.

Nice Terran guide, all matchups, lovely by DaZe <3<3

ZvT


everything about 9pool started by Klogon

Stopping 8rax bunker rush Read midian's advice and never ask this again

ZvT Neo Forte

ZvT on R-Point

IntoTheWow's sexy ZvT beginners Guuide. Not for the easily offended, but a must for those beginning their aquaintence with the swarm.


PvZ


Opening with 1gate sair/dt started by rpf289

Basic PvZ some basics by BigBalls

6gate in PvZ not nescessarily a recommended strategy, good discussion regardless

Fast expanding good discussion

RiSE on basic PvZ hard for me to judge with my lacking pvz insight, but everyone loved it

FA rescues a thread with a beauty of a post A nice unit analysis by Jinro

JWalsh's "Sim City Toss" on Rush Hour very nicely done by FA

ZvP

iNcontroL's advice for zergsincludes advice on ZvZ and ZvP. Sexy. Made by iNcontroL

ZvP on nostalgia

Beating 9/10 gate started by FakeSteve

Beating sair/dt started by babywolfcn

ZvP Luna basics : how to abuse the crackling started by zulu_nation8

PvP


A pvp guide started by BigBalls, thanks alot



ZvZ

iNcontroL's advice for zergsincludes advice on ZvZ and ZvP. Sezy. Made by iNcontroL

Muhweli on ZvZ really old discussion, good thing SoMuchBetter stumbled on it

Midian ZvZ tips Midian: always to the rescue of any troubled zerg user

A short but sweet bit of advice from InControl Submitted by SoMuchBetter

2v2

Using zerg in 2v2 games. Submitted by SoMuchBetter



Misc



Dark Archons many bad posts here to be honest but also the first time DA's were discussed and that's kind of important

Adding gates in advance started by MPXMX

Should I ever get lord sight range? started by MPXMX

About splash damage how it works explained by Empyrean

Muhweli on Queens SoMuchBetter picks up another oldie, thx

Queens started by baba1

Opening vs random with toss eri and naz make a case for 2gate!

12 Hatch zerg guide

Microing a reaver drop I usually hate it when people "discuss" micro because it's something you should probably just practice and learn by yourself, but damn this is one gem of a post by legionnaire

Playing terran against random Also a few hints on other races vs random

Avoid clumping units with good control powerful advice by skyglow1

Tactics and Strategy Illintar posts a quality read about the balance between strategy and tactics, and how it relates to the flow of a game in BroodWar.

A little known concept about zerg larva Day9 brings up a good point here with a rarely considered aspect of zerg play

Hotkeying mutalisks with an overlord A cool micromanagement trick

Good Tips for all NoobsIt may be basic, but thesse are all good things to remember. Made by MesAiur

Zerg MechanicsiNcontroL's zerg mechanics thread. Made by iNcontroL

IntoTheWoW's awesum zerg guide 12 pool
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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
March 22 2005 15:47 GMT
#2
if you spot a very old thread that you thought was very helpful, please PM it to me and i'll read it
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Allko
Profile Joined February 2004
China297 Posts
March 22 2005 15:59 GMT
#3
thank u so much for post these basic strats for us!(especially the newbie as i like. -_-)
Stop Playing God
gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2791 Posts
March 22 2005 16:00 GMT
#4
ok thanks seems nice.
iD.Surv
Profile Joined April 2004
Belgium827 Posts
March 22 2005 17:38 GMT
#5
good thinking
nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
March 22 2005 17:38 GMT
#6
Thanks sounds like a great idea, maybe it should be a sticky
NoCleanFeed.com
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
March 22 2005 18:32 GMT
#7
it already is sticky, thx saro
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Malmis
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Sweden1569 Posts
March 22 2005 18:51 GMT
#8
Great idea ;o
To Suport@Bethsoft.com: okay so i completed morrowind.. um, can i have my life back now?
EnDeR_
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Spain2787 Posts
March 22 2005 19:31 GMT
#9
I think the 9 pool thread started like 2 years ago is still pretty helpful

http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage-9763.html
estás más desubicao q un croissant en un plato de nécoras
x2fst
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
1272 Posts
March 22 2005 19:34 GMT
#10

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=rednob
muda, is a crime for me to wear a shirt, cos I is so good lookin
Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-22 20:01:58
March 22 2005 19:58 GMT
#11
I'm sure this will prove to be useful to both noobs, as it will be easier for them to find quality advice, and average gamers, as topics in the strategy forum won't be as repetitive. Thanks for keeping an open mind and taking others' proposals into consideration.
"I believe in Spinoza's god who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a god who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings." - Albert Einstein
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
March 22 2005 20:03 GMT
#12
On March 23 2005 04:31 EnDeR_ wrote:
I think the 9 pool thread started like 2 years ago is still pretty helpful

http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage-9763.html



very true, thanks for pointing that out
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NonYold
Profile Joined April 2004
United States2814 Posts
March 22 2005 20:33 GMT
#13
PvZ: Reavers + Sair (shadowmaster) http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=19380
PvZ: The Main-Line (shadowmaster) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=19304
PvZ: Reaver Mid-Game (shadowmaster) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=19461
PvZ: BO's and Strategies on Land (shadowmaster) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=19273
Taiche *
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
France1963 Posts
March 22 2005 20:49 GMT
#14
On March 23 2005 04:58 Doctorasul wrote:
Thanks for keeping an open mind and taking others' proposals into consideration.

Very true ! Thanks, GroT

I just wanted to know : is it possible to have links to external sites or do you want to stay focused on TL.net for the moment ?
Manifesto7 Uses ReXplorer, and so should you! : http://repasm.net/rx/
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
March 22 2005 21:29 GMT
#15
Big Balls and FA had two big posts on PvZ that I read and learned a few things from. They were huge too...
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Taiche *
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
France1963 Posts
March 22 2005 21:39 GMT
#16
Yep, the links to FA and BigBalls posts can be found in the Main-Line topic of shadowmaster :
BigBalls' : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=19257&page=1#16
FA's : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17349&page=1#14
Manifesto7 Uses ReXplorer, and so should you! : http://repasm.net/rx/
NonYold
Profile Joined April 2004
United States2814 Posts
March 22 2005 21:51 GMT
#17
hmm there are only 23 pages of strategy threads. it'd only take a few hours at most to scan through them and pick out the good ones..... someone step up to plate
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
March 22 2005 22:01 GMT
#18
I want to stick to the stuff I think is good strategy


i didn't like that shadowmaster stuff too much, even though i realise he put alot of effort into it and I didn't check that much of his stuff out


and i've never read a guide outside of TL that didn't suck
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Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
March 23 2005 02:05 GMT
#19
On March 23 2005 04:34 x2fst wrote:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=rednob



haha damn i immediately thought of that when i saw this thread
UMS map pack http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50442
wishterran
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1045 Posts
March 23 2005 06:12 GMT
#20
the strategy forum is getting better grot.
Allko
Profile Joined February 2004
China297 Posts
March 23 2005 09:13 GMT
#21
On March 23 2005 05:33 NonY wrote:
PvZ: Reavers + Sair (shadowmaster) http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=19380
PvZ: The Main-Line (shadowmaster) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=19304
PvZ: Reaver Mid-Game (shadowmaster) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=19461
PvZ: BO's and Strategies on Land (shadowmaster) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=19273

thx for post so many p's strat
kaka
Stop Playing God
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
March 25 2005 11:08 GMT
#22
wow rednob's profile is awesome
Entusman #12
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
March 25 2005 11:43 GMT
#23
I thought rednob was stimey
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
March 25 2005 14:13 GMT
#24
this is one fucking hot thread.
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
x2fst
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
1272 Posts
March 27 2005 18:47 GMT
#25
rednob IS stimey
muda, is a crime for me to wear a shirt, cos I is so good lookin
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
March 30 2005 07:03 GMT
#26
fuck having trouble finding more threads i like, i hope some new good threads pop up soon
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x2fst
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
1272 Posts
March 30 2005 11:21 GMT
#27
On March 30 2005 16:03 GroT wrote:
fuck having trouble finding more threads i like, i hope some new good threads pop up soon

just make your own thread with 20 consecutive posts by you, all praising gundam
muda, is a crime for me to wear a shirt, cos I is so good lookin
pfff
Profile Joined May 2004
Belgium1352 Posts
April 05 2005 00:48 GMT
#28
He can be anything he wants to be. He can be like umm.. this guy I knew in high school, his grandfather invented these little ties they go on the end of salamis. He made millions of dollars, hes sitting on his ass !

i was wondering, sopranos quote?
It ain’t no sin to be glad you’re alive
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
April 05 2005 22:49 GMT
#29
yes, Tony says that to his shrink when explaining he doesn't want his son to become a gangster like him
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Taiche *
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
France1963 Posts
April 05 2005 23:01 GMT
#30
What about the thread of 6 gate in PvZ by uhjoo ? I think it's worth to be mentioned in the list, isn't it ?
Manifesto7 Uses ReXplorer, and so should you! : http://repasm.net/rx/
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
April 06 2005 00:55 GMT
#31
I'm in doubt about it, i'm going to ask a good p player if it's a viable strat
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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
April 06 2005 01:07 GMT
#32
k i decided to put it in
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TradeMark
Profile Joined July 2004
Japan41 Posts
April 11 2005 07:51 GMT
#33
Have you thought about compiliing other specific map BOs and strats, such as the nostalgia thread? I seem to remembering there being quite a few of those about a year ago, when the standard maps of today were coming out.
AnGuRuSO
Profile Joined January 2004
Kazachstan323 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-12 00:10:57
April 12 2005 00:09 GMT
#34
1337

ahahahha, he wrote "started by grot"

reminds me of the time my tennis captain wrote a letter to himself, so he could put it in his CV.
A horse is like a man
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
April 12 2005 00:16 GMT
#35
anybody want me to make a pvp thread? that was always my best matchup but nobody ever seemed to want help on it so i ended up saying oodles of shit on pvt and pvz but never pvp.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
April 12 2005 00:50 GMT
#36
I would enjoy it, bigballs. i've played many many pvp's, but i'd like to read/participate in discussions about it.
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
April 12 2005 02:26 GMT
#37
i've started writing something up for pvp, and it's going to be very very long. oh well who cares, im trying to explain intuition behind things and also trying to account for a lot of adaptation.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17694 Posts
April 12 2005 14:58 GMT
#38
BB say something about fast DT tech in PvP!
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Allko
Profile Joined February 2004
China297 Posts
April 15 2005 10:59 GMT
#39
On April 12 2005 11:26 BigBalls wrote:
i've started writing something up for pvp, and it's going to be very very long. oh well who cares, im trying to explain intuition behind things and also trying to account for a lot of adaptation.


i have read your PvZ guide on LT. it improves me so much .
today a PvP .. so good.

r u going to write something about PvT. if so i think it will also be a wonderful things


Stop Playing God
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
April 17 2005 02:25 GMT
#40
Dammit I can't believe you didn't put my thread in the TvP XD.

I waited patiently but it never was put on, tell me that you just didn't see it- = =
too easy
SainT
Profile Joined February 2005
Chile1067 Posts
April 17 2005 02:28 GMT
#41
maybe u can explain a pvp goon vs goon and archs zeas vs goon THX!
Well i'm a lucky man...
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
April 17 2005 05:30 GMT
#42
On April 17 2005 11:25 exalted wrote:
Dammit I can't believe you didn't put my thread in the TvP XD.

I waited patiently but it never was put on, tell me that you just didn't see it- = =


I didn't get a chance to read it entirely yet, I'm probably not putting it in because I think it's too basic, sorry


didn'ty read anything i didn't agree with or anything like that though, I'll read it all the way through and then decide
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BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
April 17 2005 09:16 GMT
#43
On April 15 2005 19:59 Allko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2005 11:26 BigBalls wrote:
i've started writing something up for pvp, and it's going to be very very long. oh well who cares, im trying to explain intuition behind things and also trying to account for a lot of adaptation.


i have read your PvZ guide on LT. it improves me so much .
today a PvP .. so good.

r u going to write something about PvT. if so i think it will also be a wonderful things




posted go
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Snikerdoodel
Profile Joined May 2005
2 Posts
May 01 2005 07:10 GMT
#44
Since i can't post threads yet can anyone tell me where Empyrean's Splash Damage Guide is ? Thanks
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17051 Posts
May 01 2005 09:13 GMT
#45
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=25501

There you go
Moderator
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
May 02 2005 02:37 GMT
#46
I still think the general forum needs a topic like this =D There are so many golden threads out there
Enter a Uh
SainT
Profile Joined February 2005
Chile1067 Posts
May 02 2005 04:33 GMT
#47
On May 02 2005 11:37 jtan wrote:
I still think the general forum needs a topic like this =D There are so many golden threads out there

Maybe someone could make a list of them... hm.. but i don't much about the old threads, i've been here for like 3 months
Well i'm a lucky man...
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4518 Posts
May 06 2005 08:05 GMT
#48
after reading these bigballs posts i became A+ PGT toss user

no lie
Team Liquid
NonYold
Profile Joined April 2004
United States2814 Posts
May 06 2005 09:57 GMT
#49
On May 06 2005 17:05 ret wrote:
after reading these bigballs posts i became A+ PGT toss user

no lie


huk
Snikerdoodel
Profile Joined May 2005
2 Posts
May 08 2005 11:04 GMT
#50
On May 01 2005 18:13 Empyrean wrote:
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=25501

There you go


great! i PM'ed you about the rare r3
gricha
Profile Joined May 2003
Lesotho67 Posts
May 15 2005 16:17 GMT
#51
May I recommend my BC rush strat ?

http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=4&topic_id=21538

Quite a few people seemed to consider it a landmark in BC rush strats back then...

Cordially,
Meat
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands3751 Posts
May 27 2005 21:30 GMT
#52
On March 23 2005 06:51 NonY wrote:
hmm there are only 23 pages of strategy threads. it'd only take a few hours at most to scan through them and pick out the good ones..... someone step up to plate

the strategy forum started when TL was at least 1.5 years old and the brood war forum when it was 6 months old so good strats might be everywhere only a bit outdated
Administrator
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
May 31 2005 07:53 GMT
#53
added 2 more threads that looked worthless at the start and got very interesting at the end
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
May 31 2005 08:08 GMT
#54
I can dig up a ZvT thread from b.net forums if anybody wants?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
June 01 2005 03:11 GMT
#55
hmm... clearly i don't visit the strat forum often enough, only saw this thread today. nice idea^^
HurtnTime
Profile Joined September 2002
United States296 Posts
June 29 2005 04:10 GMT
#56
I know I wrote a post on TvT a long time ago on another forum and someone else posted it here. I'll try to find it.

- Hurt
HurtnTime
Profile Joined September 2002
United States296 Posts
June 29 2005 05:09 GMT
#57
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=25504

A couple replies down, you will see one from payt.

- Hurt
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
July 14 2005 04:40 GMT
#58
for PvZ:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=29507
Dont drink and derive. TSL: Made with Balls.
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
July 14 2005 10:37 GMT
#59
added it =]
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wahnsinn
Profile Joined June 2005
Australia184 Posts
July 14 2005 13:27 GMT
#60
Can someone link me (I'm very stupid) to BigBalls' PvZ and PvT guides please? I know he wrote massive guides on both (I think) and I'd like to bookmark them This would be appreciated ^^
http://www.metal-archives.com/userprofile.php?user=Wahnsinn
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
July 14 2005 23:10 GMT
#61
the links are in the first post of this thread


that's what the thread is for
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HurtnTime
Profile Joined September 2002
United States296 Posts
July 22 2005 04:45 GMT
#62
Dang Grot, I take it the link I provided for TvT doesn't cut the mustard. /cry

- Hurt
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
July 28 2005 00:44 GMT
#63
sorry Hurt I haven't even read it yet

i keep reading more and more strategy and it's making me go insane, I'll read it first chance i get


update: added an important thread about stopping bunker rushes with zerg, damn midian, thanks alot
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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-07-28 01:42:03
July 28 2005 01:39 GMT
#64
ahh taht one, I did read that once, it's an old one right? I remember thinking it had some really good and some really bad points, I prefer not to add it sorry
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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
August 04 2005 00:27 GMT
#65
just deleted about half of the posts in the lord sight range thread cause i thought it was important that it was discussed and the thread had so much garbage in it.. damn if anyone says i'm not committed now, ban
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Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
August 12 2005 17:18 GMT
#66
You're not committed to this thread...






J/k ! I no want da ban!
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
September 04 2005 06:37 GMT
#67
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=31247

i think this should go under the ZvZ section. midian provides a lot of helpful advice about some of the subtleties in zvz.
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
Angel[BTL]
Profile Joined February 2003
Romania345 Posts
September 04 2005 16:43 GMT
#68
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=29095 - i think this thread is pretty good. It shows the basics of zerg play. Can u post it?
Success is going from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
September 06 2005 15:02 GMT
#69
okay, done
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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
September 08 2005 19:51 GMT
#70
Grot, maybe you should add the Luna thread - some pretty good discussion in there and with the recent luna popularity things are changin. I noticed another luna thread but it didnt contain the same in-depth discussion.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=31150
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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
September 10 2005 11:41 GMT
#71
okay thanks, added
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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
September 21 2005 09:06 GMT
#72
ya that strat saved me a couple losses on pgt
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Shiit
Profile Joined September 2005
Canada25 Posts
September 23 2005 03:54 GMT
#73
Very nice thread, But i can say one thing. Do you guys know a Very good PVT PVZ and PVP replay that will help me on lt? Ive gotten lots of em, but i dont know. I just want to know what you guys think.
Kill to Kill Not for a God Or a Ruler
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 23 2005 04:57 GMT
#74
great idea !
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mitsy
Profile Joined October 2005
United States1792 Posts
October 08 2005 03:54 GMT
#75
ok sorry to be rude if this is out of place, but x2fst emphasized rednob's profile on March 23 2005 04:34, over 5 months ago. you have no TVT recommendations yet. you say that people should send specific threads to you if they think they help. i understand that. rednob's profile is too many things to go over.

so, this message is not for grot, but for the rest of you who are good players: why have none of you e-mailed a helpful thread to grot yet on TvT?

from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=rednob you find, among dozens of other helpful links, a link to a TvT thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=19588 where rednob states:

On October 29 2004 10:22 rednob wrote:
I do not have much experience to offer, but I have searched the forums for you (To keep under the 100 posts cap, I searched for "tvt gol" in the Strategy and Broodwar Forums:

Openings
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=11669 (Liquid`Drone, MPXMX)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=2&topic_id=11669 (FroZZoR, Beast_Bg)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=11346 (FroZZoR, Waxangel, GoDHovZ if he wasn't Nuked)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=3&topic_id=11346 (FroZZoR, Beast_Bg, Liquid`Drone, SpuniasauR)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=9665 (HovZ)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=2&topic_id=9665 (Casper..., iD.Twisted, HovZ, FroZZoR)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=3&topic_id=9665 (Beast_Bg)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=8637 (hasuwar, ObsoleteLogic, Sadist, SpuniasauR)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=2&topic_id=6885 (Veg if he wasn't Nuked)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=6108 (HovZ)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=2&topic_id=6108 (HovZ, Sadist)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=5210 (InFiNitY[pG], Casper...)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=4592 (Frits, ret, Veg if he wasn't Nuked, MPXMX, HovZ)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=18600 (GroT, SpuniasauR)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17494 (MPXMX, SpuniasauR)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17008 (SoL.Origin, EndlessWiz)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=9095 (HovZ, [pG]Rekrul, iD.Twisted, ObsoleteLogic)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=2&topic_id=9095 (iD.Twisted, HovZ, Liquid`Drone, ObsoleteLogic, Veg if he wasn't Nuked, Liquid`Drone)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=3&topic_id=9095 (Beast_Bg, HovZ)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=4&topic_id=9095 (iD.Twisted)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=9192 (hasuwar, HovZ, SoL.Origin)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=16370 (EndlessWiz)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=2&topic_id=16370 (EndlessWiz)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=16498 ([pG]Liquid`Daaman)

Late Game
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=14318 (Liquid`Drone) (Unfortunately for you, GoDHovZ was Nuked)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=2&topic_id=14318 (FroZZoR, HnR)Hurt)

Please, if you check any of these threads and find advice useful, please restate it in this thread along with the link so that others will get a chance to see what you saw and understand what you did. Thanks and Good Luck!


why has no good terran player picked one of those links and PM'd it to grot? does no one play TvT anymore? that is the only reason i can think of.
express yourself--madonna
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
October 09 2005 20:54 GMT
#76
zvp on nostalgia: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32268
zvt at r-point: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32178
DaRkReBeL
Profile Joined October 2005
United States30 Posts
October 30 2005 10:00 GMT
#77
wow good stuff thanks
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
October 30 2005 11:00 GMT
#78
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=31330&currentpage=2#23
post on reaver dropping by leg
AUSSIESCUM
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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
October 31 2005 22:57 GMT
#79
thank you asta and somuchbetter, haven't had much time lately but I was glad to find your posts
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
November 01 2005 04:24 GMT
#80
maybe you should make a section 'Map-related strategy for adjusting strategys to certain maps'
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QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
November 01 2005 08:15 GMT
#81
Mmm so if I start a posts about if Sci Vessels are any good TvP early/mid/late game: (EX: emp nexus, drop 2 tanks, and kill nexus in 5 controlled shots.) will that be any useful?
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
November 01 2005 10:51 GMT
#82
It would be more useful if you kept writting intellectual thoughts in your posts so you get a first hand experience of how a ghost with nukes is supposed to be used.
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
November 02 2005 00:16 GMT
#83
Add the thread about fast nexus build
Ekii
Profile Joined September 2005
Poland346 Posts
November 25 2005 23:48 GMT
#84
Well, after reading all of the posts and links given in this thread , I must admit that it was without any doubts - very good idea. Thanks God , we still have many "fresh-thinking" people. Keep the good job up and I will try to suggest something , if I will have more time.
Absentem, qui rodit amicum, qui non defendit alio culpante, solutos qui capiat risus hóminum famamque dicacis, fingere qui non visa potest, comatissa tacere qui nequit, hic niger est, hunc tu, romane caveto!
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
November 30 2005 00:10 GMT
#85
I'm actually being very inactive, I still try to check out the strategy forum here now and then so I'm not really neglecting it either


but well, with the birth of liquid poker.net, i'm spending a lot less time here : o
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Ekii
Profile Joined September 2005
Poland346 Posts
November 30 2005 01:44 GMT
#86
addicted
Absentem, qui rodit amicum, qui non defendit alio culpante, solutos qui capiat risus hóminum famamque dicacis, fingere qui non visa potest, comatissa tacere qui nequit, hic niger est, hunc tu, romane caveto!
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
November 30 2005 17:24 GMT
#87
haha yes definetly addicted to liquidpoker.net
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
December 21 2005 03:13 GMT
#88
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=34915


For PvT
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
mitsy
Profile Joined October 2005
United States1792 Posts
December 23 2005 16:04 GMT
#89
On December 21 2005 12:13 decafchicken wrote:
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=34915


For PvT


i agree i actually came here to recommend this myself. it was very helpful, now i know what FD and Midas is. i'm kind of out of touch these days. more questions than answers, but good start to playing TvP just from page 1 of that thread.
express yourself--madonna
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
December 29 2005 06:08 GMT
#90
well if grot ever decides to stop playing poker for a minute i would recommend not only adding that above PvT thread but also

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=33677

skyglow's thread on his magical boxers ;D

its actually useful information that people might want to look up

also should be in here was that guide from long ago about mining differences between races..... i mean these aren't pure strategy threads but I thought it would be good to have a reference to them? anyone agree/disagree? is there a better place to hold the links =\
UMS map pack http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50442
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-29 10:08:02
December 29 2005 10:07 GMT
#91
agree! that mining differences thread was a very extensive guide.
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
December 29 2005 20:54 GMT
#92
wow that magical boxes thread is great! added
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
January 11 2006 08:19 GMT
#93
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=35573 >_>
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
January 12 2006 05:17 GMT
#94
Omg gay why the hell you delete my post !

grot i hate you ;_;
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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
January 12 2006 11:43 GMT
#95
lmao
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
January 12 2006 12:54 GMT
#96
Stupid belgian , anyway here it is again bwahahah.

http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=35519#11


Put it.
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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
January 13 2006 01:51 GMT
#97
never pedro
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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
January 13 2006 01:52 GMT
#98
god this forum has become such a mess i keep wondering if its worth my time to come back again and get it back to being "less terrible" =[
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
January 13 2006 01:53 GMT
#99
You could put my post for starters.
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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
January 13 2006 01:56 GMT
#100
On January 13 2006 10:51 GroT wrote:
never
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
January 13 2006 03:50 GMT
#101
O pedrO
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RiSE
Profile Joined April 2004
United States3182 Posts
January 13 2006 13:18 GMT
#102
great, great post rage =]
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
January 13 2006 20:00 GMT
#103
just say o pedro
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27168 Posts
January 29 2006 16:45 GMT
#104
I am posting here because it bothers me to see that all caps name in the last posted spot.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-02-01 09:46:58
February 01 2006 09:46 GMT
#105
i'm posting because some little kid just came in here and jesus christ he has the biggest man-tits i have ever seen

he's probably about 9 years old and hes got to be like a B cup
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
February 05 2006 06:07 GMT
#106
I'm posting here in hopes that this kid never comes to see me.
ModeratorFather of bunnies
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 06 2006 02:10 GMT
#107
norwegians get out
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
February 06 2006 03:09 GMT
#108
adorable
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
February 07 2006 12:38 GMT
#109
Oooooooooooooo I just realized my thread is one of the recommended ones! This has made my day :D
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
February 07 2006 12:59 GMT
#110
And wtf mine arent tt.







-skyglow1
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rpf289
Profile Joined October 2004
United States3524 Posts
February 13 2006 07:21 GMT
#111
Holy shit a thread of mine is on the list. ^^!
gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-03-28 16:34:00
March 28 2006 16:32 GMT
#112
We really need a good ZvT FE thread. Becuase I´m starting to freak out! Sorry for bumping.
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
March 29 2006 00:12 GMT
#113
I second that!
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
April 22 2006 19:18 GMT
#114
doesnt like every ZvT thread treat ZvT FE as its pretty standard?
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2791 Posts
April 22 2006 19:27 GMT
#115
Nowdays, yes. But I´m kinda Oldschool. Retire? ^^
Taiche *
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
France1963 Posts
May 07 2006 09:06 GMT
#116
Again, a good discussion about PvZ : http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=39522
The thread starts with many stupid flames or wrong advices but FrozenArbiter's post on page 2 greatly enhances the level of the discussion which becomes of a very good quality from then.
I strongly believe this should be listed in the PvZ's threads with maybe a direct link to FA's post too : http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=2&topic_id=39522#30
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
August 20 2006 00:24 GMT
#117
These two seem pretty good (TvZ and ZvT, respectively):

http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=42968

http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=42772
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27168 Posts
August 20 2006 10:12 GMT
#118
Taiche and GrandInquisitor, I added your suggestions. Thank you. Also added the unit placement thread by skyglow.
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Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
August 20 2006 10:31 GMT
#119
I think that skyglow's thread should go in the TvP section rather than sit at the bottom of the misc ones. Even though there is some TvZ placement, it is really irrelevant to a majority of the topic.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27168 Posts
August 20 2006 10:35 GMT
#120
yep, that sounds like a better idea.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
August 23 2006 09:46 GMT
#121
Add in the mondi zvp guide
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27168 Posts
August 29 2006 14:36 GMT
#122
That wasnt generated on this site.
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ChoboCop
Profile Joined July 2004
United States954 Posts
August 30 2006 01:37 GMT
#123
I would like to see the link to that mondragon guide anyway.
Critical thinking is the intellectually disciplined process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and/or evaluating information gathered.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 23 2006 06:24 GMT
#124
go to ToT's website, can find it there.
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
September 23 2006 07:22 GMT
#125
suggestion: put the newest edit with red text
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
September 23 2006 08:42 GMT
#126
On September 23 2006 16:22 Patriot.dlk wrote:
suggestion: put the newest edit with red text


Yes, that is a very good idea - I have no idea what the last edit was =/ Or just put dates by each one... but that may be too much work.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27168 Posts
September 24 2006 20:05 GMT
#127
I will do that from now on, although I can tell you that they are in the order that they were added.
ModeratorGodfather
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
September 24 2006 23:59 GMT
#128
Mani, I want to report small problem:
The link to the "Microing reaver drop" is broken.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=2&topic_id=31330
would be correct.
One more duty on your shoulders?!? Isn't it enough you do for the community?
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27168 Posts
September 25 2006 21:23 GMT
#129
Thanks, fixed. The problem was that it was linked to a specific post, and when the post order changes in a thread, the link was broken.

Yep, one more thing, but the strategy forum is more of a self-moderating forum. Almost nobody gets baned from here for making supid posts.

If people are retarded, they get flamed and ignored. If people do really well, they get respect. If people make super posts, well then post them here and I will add them to the front. I really think we are collecting a solid base of knowledge in that first post. We just need the right people discussing things.
ModeratorGodfather
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27168 Posts
September 29 2006 08:14 GMT
#130
Added a zvz thread and created a 2v2 section, thanks to SoMuchBetter for the references.
ModeratorGodfather
Taiche *
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
France1963 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-04 21:06:59
October 03 2006 16:50 GMT
#131
I kinda like this topic about fake lair in PvZ : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=44739
Advices are good, replays are provided and people discuss without flaming (!). Shows what to do and what to understand from your sair scouting in 1-gate sair builds.

EDIT : and what about this one ? It gives good overviews for beginners, wish I'd have this when I started (hell, I can still read it now, will be helpful anyway)
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
October 18 2006 22:47 GMT
#132
I dont know if Grot still reads or visit this forums but since there is no tvt strats threads
this was a good thread cause of the advice and rep pack mortality gave.
Clicky^^
It helps people who arent good at tvt like me.
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Taiche *
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
France1963 Posts
November 06 2006 17:37 GMT
#133
I can't believe no one has posted FA's awesome topic : [Guide]PvZ Rush Hour - My Way - Sim City Toss
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 06 2006 18:30 GMT
#134
Yeah it has to be added. NOW
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
November 07 2006 00:54 GMT
#135
lol. It was only posted like a day ago. Chill, it'll make it's way up.
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Taiche *
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
France1963 Posts
November 07 2006 05:58 GMT
#136
Oh, I am quite sure about that. It's just that I posted it here so that any admin passing by will not forget to include it in the first post
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skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
November 15 2006 09:26 GMT
#137
Updated my build placement for TvP thing. I lost the picture before but now I made a new one.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
November 18 2006 23:09 GMT
#138
Much as SSBM sites have guides on how to wavedash/SHFFL, I think we should post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=30851 in here, since it involves a lot of little tricks that the new player wouldn't know how (or why) to do
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
to miss the mark
Profile Joined November 2005
Bosnia-Herzegovina1381 Posts
November 24 2006 01:01 GMT
#139
zulu's Savior ZvT 3 hatch guide is relativly good.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=46476

I nominate thee.
Act happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love, and do what you will.
starter[eTel]
Profile Joined December 2006
Philippines50 Posts
December 01 2006 21:02 GMT
#140
excuse me, I'm a newbie in progaming. I do have 40-70more apms and I don't know the builds like FD build, FE build and the like. Kindly, please help.
I will start the best ~starter[eTel]
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6774 Posts
December 01 2006 21:23 GMT
#141
Well isnt that just adorable <3
Graphics
starter[eTel]
Profile Joined December 2006
Philippines50 Posts
December 01 2006 21:26 GMT
#142
Well, I used to read the SCLegacy strategies and found out it's for newbies especially those really new in the game. All I need now is the protoss builds, terran builds and analysis on PvZ, PvT, PvP, TvT, TvZ, and TvP

Never used Zerg obviously. I don't know why
I will start the best ~starter[eTel]
Taiche *
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
France1963 Posts
December 01 2006 21:39 GMT
#143
If you're really starting, you shouldn't focus on Build Orders. You need to work on basic things like "how to react to what you scout", "how improving the macro/mutltitasking", etc...
You just need the basic builds, so if you play toss, check out BigBalls' guides (cf first post), they will indicate you how to start. I don't know for other races.
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starter[eTel]
Profile Joined December 2006
Philippines50 Posts
December 01 2006 21:41 GMT
#144
Where can I find those? Thanks anyway...
I will start the best ~starter[eTel]
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
December 01 2006 22:19 GMT
#145
Erm go to the first post and ctrl + f "bigballs"

;o
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
January 03 2007 03:32 GMT
#146
wait wtf where is FA's PvZ guide in here?!

=O
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
SnOwYdaY
Profile Joined January 2007
Korea (South)19 Posts
January 03 2007 11:38 GMT
#147
I have a question.. why isn't BlueIris's PvZ Basics guide not part of recommended threads?

I really learned alot from that guide and i was really impressed.
Play like your first~Train like your second
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
January 03 2007 15:00 GMT
#148
On January 03 2007 20:38 SnOwYdaY wrote:
I have a question.. why isn't BlueIris's PvZ Basics guide not part of recommended threads?

I really learned alot from that guide and i was really impressed.


Because this original thread was created in March of 2005.
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
January 03 2007 21:58 GMT
#149
still, someone should have edited it and included it if it was a good guide =O
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
January 03 2007 22:03 GMT
#150
It WAS a good guide. My PvZ record went from 0% to 25%. -_-;;; He at least did SOMETHING right.
^-^
crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
January 03 2007 22:11 GMT
#151
On January 04 2007 00:00 BuGzlToOnl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2007 20:38 SnOwYdaY wrote:
I have a question.. why isn't BlueIris's PvZ Basics guide not part of recommended threads?

I really learned alot from that guide and i was really impressed.


Because this original thread was created in March of 2005.

http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=47495
She posted it on December 2006, I think your're mistakening it for something else.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
January 10 2007 01:43 GMT
#152
Frankly, http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=48595 is a good topic too for FMP advice =P
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-30 11:05:39
January 30 2007 11:05 GMT
#153
Inc's threads should be added, naturally

nvm its been done
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
January 30 2007 11:33 GMT
#154
Zerg mechanics under misc? It should be placed under the zerg section so zerg players can see it straight away.
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
January 31 2007 09:58 GMT
#155
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=46047
asap.
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
January 31 2007 10:14 GMT
#156
On January:58 SoMuchBetter wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=46047
asap.

yeah, i was wondering why this wasn't up yet
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
February 01 2007 02:10 GMT
#157
On January 03 2007 20:38 SnOwYdaY wrote:
I have a question.. why isn't BlueIris's PvZ Basics guide not part of recommended threads?

I really learned alot from that guide and i was really impressed.


I second this motion
Wolfgirl
Profile Joined February 2007
United States4 Posts
February 04 2007 10:07 GMT
#158
hmmm the strategy rivals my own hmm i am excited i will wait for new ones while i try these out
and combine them with mine and see if i can push up to 300% instead my regular 200% of strategys... Ha ha! i feel like a new strategist..
:Glares: Got a problem
Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
February 04 2007 11:13 GMT
#159
On February 04 2007 19:07 Wolfgirl wrote:
hmmm the strategy rivals my own hmm i am excited i will wait for new ones while i try these out
and combine them with mine and see if i can push up to 300% instead my regular 200% of strategys... Ha ha! i feel like a new strategist..


But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
uhjoo
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)1740 Posts
February 10 2007 22:45 GMT
#160
i've been doing the updating in GroT's absence (added iNcontroL and DaZe's guides, and FA's strat)

PM me if you see any threads worth including in the original post
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
February 10 2007 23:05 GMT
#161
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j0ehoe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States2705 Posts
February 12 2007 23:08 GMT
#162
maybe one of the resident gosus could do a brief overview of team games. or rw strats. a little more depth for this section =o
Only communists disconnect.
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
February 17 2007 01:28 GMT
#163
should note that incontrol added a ZvT section to his zerg tips thread so you can put it in there too =O
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The_Protagonist_
Profile Joined May 2007
United States40 Posts
May 12 2007 09:27 GMT
#164
thanks so much bigballs! now i must try this out!!
All eyes on me
.kaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
1963 Posts
May 12 2007 10:45 GMT
#165
I don't understand how people with 2 posts can use the search function, find a really really old thread, take the time to read it, and then bump it when every day it seems like we get 5 new sc2 threads and the OP didn't search. Why can't the newbies just read current threads -_-.
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jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
May 12 2007 11:56 GMT
#166
Well at least we know they know how to use the Search function.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
May 12 2007 12:05 GMT
#167
This thread is stickied on top though isn't it?
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YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
May 13 2007 02:03 GMT
#168
On May 12 2007 19:45 .kaz wrote:
I don't understand how people with 2 posts can use the search function, find a really really old thread, take the time to read it, and then bump it when every day it seems like we get 5 new sc2 threads and the OP didn't search. Why can't the newbies just read current threads -_-.

when ppl search and bump theres complaints.....when people make new threads theres complaints.

gtfo, you're a bad poster anyway.
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 13 2007 04:56 GMT
#169
On May 12 2007 21:05 Kau wrote:
This thread is stickied on top though isn't it?


hehe someone got it
Evilmonkey.
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1628 Posts
July 15 2007 16:49 GMT
#170
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=56512
WWBD- What would Boxer do?
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
July 15 2007 19:48 GMT
#171
On July 16 2007 01:49 Evilmonkey. wrote:
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=56512

it's already up there ^^
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 11:37:35
August 02 2007 07:45 GMT
#172
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=57249
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=57264

Bloodbath Strats, specifically Mine,Flag, and Alpha's posts.

I reorganized some of the data and pics and put it in my blog too.

Where is GroT anyways?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
August 31 2007 20:12 GMT
#173
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=58620

mutalisk guide, amazing by chill
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
September 01 2007 12:32 GMT
#174
honestly, just put in lastshadow's guide http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=53769

he's a douche at times, but it's still solid advice for the most part
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
September 09 2007 03:18 GMT
#175
Chill's mutalisk guide before we forget about its existence >__<

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=58620
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
September 09 2007 03:27 GMT
#176
On September 01 2007 21:32 GrandInquisitor wrote:
honestly, just put in lastshadow's guide http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=53769

he's a douche at times, but it's still solid advice for the most part


ShaADoW RuSHHhHH
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
September 09 2007 03:39 GMT
#177
On September 09 2007 12:18 thedeadhaji wrote:
Chill's mutalisk guide before we forget about its existence >__<

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=58620


Yup; I think BluzMan's PvT guide should also be added; a very, very good guide for beginners.
^-^
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
September 18 2007 20:29 GMT
#178
Does Grot still post? A lot of links up there are bad, and it's missing some good discussions that happened in the last couple months.
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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
September 26 2007 18:36 GMT
#179
with your access now can't you edit posts made by other people? ie update the OP of this thread
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
September 26 2007 21:43 GMT
#180
I'm revamping the guidelines, then this thread will be next.
Moderator
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-26 23:33:21
September 26 2007 23:33 GMT
#181
Whoo! Chill gogo :D

edit: Chill let's hope you find some more good P guides
^-^
p4fn2w
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
383 Posts
October 01 2007 23:14 GMT
#182
Sorry if this has been posted, but can you add this guide to the Recommended thread too?

http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=58685
([PvT] A beginner push breaker guide)
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
October 02 2007 01:50 GMT
#183
On October 02 2007 08:14 p4fn2w wrote:
Sorry if this has been posted, but can you add this guide to the Recommended thread too?

http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=58685
([PvT] A beginner push breaker guide)


On September 09 2007 12:39 Equinox_kr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2007 12:18 thedeadhaji wrote:
Chill's mutalisk guide before we forget about its existence >__<

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=58620


Yup; I think BluzMan's PvT guide should also be added; a very, very good guide for beginners.


^
^-^
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
October 02 2007 02:04 GMT
#184
Ooh ooh, Chill. Question.

Will you be closing this thread and making a new Recommended Threads thread or are you just gonna modify the one you have here?
^-^
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
October 02 2007 03:32 GMT
#185
New thread. It's at least a week away. I add stuff every day but it takes a long time to sift through the threads.
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
October 02 2007 03:53 GMT
#186
Ahh, ok. Makes sense ^_^

God I have to say it again; strategy forum looks sweet~
^-^
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
October 03 2007 21:03 GMT
#187
What's the ettiquite on bumping old recommdned strat threads that are here in the featured thread? I mean some of them are from 2005 and if i want to question tose is it lfine to bump it up 2 years?
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
October 03 2007 22:25 GMT
#188
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=60175

"Bump old threads
If you have a question (or an important comment) that relates to the original post, then bump away! We want to keep similar advice grouped together to make searching quicker. That being said, if you bump an old thread with “Everyone should read this!” expect to be banned from the strategy section."
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43681 Posts
October 04 2007 16:01 GMT
#189
My dark vs mine guide if we're allowed to nominate ourselves.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
October 04 2007 17:30 GMT
#190
On October 05 2007 01:01 Kwark wrote:
My dark vs mine guide if we're allowed to nominate ourselves.


If not, I'll nominate it anyway =D
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
October 04 2007 17:36 GMT
#191
I nominate BluzMan's PvT Beginner Push Breaker Guide

Hee hee hee 3 Dark Templars in a row
^-^
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
October 04 2007 22:27 GMT
#192
I break the chain.
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