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What do the pros earn and how? - Page 2
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LzH.stOry
United States35 Posts
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Joementum
787 Posts
On May 03 2011 08:56 MrGingerKid wrote: Not true. I have heard on multiple streams that the streamer gets .2 cents per viewer per commercial. This could be wrong, but I have heard it from multiple mods and admins on stream. this means $2 per 1000 viewers per commercial. so a stream with 5k viewers with 4 commercials an hour can make $40 an hour. Once again this is merely what I've heard from different sources. It's $.002 cents per viewer that watches the commercial. Obviously, the more you stream, the more you make. I believe Idra is the person I've seen with the highest number of viewers ever at 11k or something. He was making $22 per commercial, which isn't bad considering most games last 15-20 minutes tops. Pros that stream a lot and are known in the community should be able to make $50k+ pre-tax quite easily. Taxes would drop that down by a bit though. Just look at Destiny. He isn't a pro and he's making ~$60k a year just streaming and giving lessons. That's pretty damn good and it should only keep going up if he starts placing really high in tournaments. One thing I do wonder is how many lessons Idra gives. He said in SOTG that he had 7 hours booked at once when his rates were $150 /hour. Now, they are at $300 /hour. How many lessons does he give? O_o | ||
FXOjEcho
Canada318 Posts
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pHelix Equilibria
United States1134 Posts
Yeah,I know pro-gamers can argue but college debts and what not, but its the college grads that have a safer security in knowing that they will have a steady job coming in for the rest of their working lives. A Life of a pro-gamer isn't all its luster. Playing games for fun is much more fun than betting my food and house over how well I do in that game. I highly doubt the western e-sports' sponsors are paying their players a salary they can live on. | ||
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pHelix Equilibria
United States1134 Posts
Yeah but how long can he keep that up for, for a few years? Then what. | ||
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Joementum
787 Posts
On May 03 2011 10:01 JEcho wrote: Does any1 know exactly how to get into this? im currently ranked top 30 GM and im saving $$ to buy a new computer so i can start streaming. However 800-1k is alot to drop if im not guna be able to make any money back. Id love it if someone could pm me concrete information on how to get into this type of thing. Find Destiny's AMA thread on Reddit and read it. The best way to get attention in the SC2 Streaming scene is to have an personality. I watch Destiny's stream from time to time because I think he's hilarious. If you're going to be that guy that just plays games, doesn't talk and is outright boring, you'll never get more than 200 viewers. On May 03 2011 10:02 pHelix Equilibria wrote: I think that most pro-gamers lack most is job security. I mean people are like whoa 10k prize pool!!!!! But that isn't much to live on. And to argue that pro-gamers aren't being paid as much as pro athletes is... Yeah,I know pro-gamers can argue but college debts and what not, but its the college grads that have a safer security in knowing that they will have a steady job coming in for the rest of their working lives. A Life of a pro-gamer isn't all its luster. Playing games for fun is much more fun than betting my food and house over how well I do in that game. I highly doubt the western e-sports' sponsors are paying their players a salary they can live on. I believe FXO pays their player's a salary and most known pros have streams with 2k-4k people watching every day while they practice. They can easily live off of that if they really want to, but you are right. Who knows how long they can live off of this life style. I guess we'll eventually see some pros move on and go back to school or something. | ||
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pHelix Equilibria
United States1134 Posts
I believe FXO pays their player's a salary and most known pros have streams with 2k-4k people watching every day while they practice. They can easily live off of that if they really want to. But when you talk about what people earn salary wise, you have to account for in its security. They must real comfortably year to year. Will FXO and ESPORTS teams guarantee their players a pension plan? So the money coming in from their streams must be alot of money!! So jealous!! | ||
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ArghUScaredMe
United States712 Posts
Take IdrA for example, the most well-known SC2 player of NA. -He took several 2-5 grand wins from various tourneys in last 12 months. -He also did bunch of product placement videos in his casts (ATi) -Streaming revenue from his daily casts So they're not making bank by any means now. No more than what a college grad would make (40-50K). | ||
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Kvothe
201 Posts
On May 03 2011 11:07 ArghUScaredMe wrote: It's really anyone's guess actually. The progaming scene outside of Korea is really premature. Take IdrA for example, the most well-known SC2 player of NA. -He took several 2-5 grand wins from various tourneys in last 12 months. -He also did bunch of product placement videos in his casts (ATi) -Streaming revenue from his daily casts So they're not making bank by any means now. No more than what a college grad would make (40-50K). I am 100% positive Idra is making more than 40-50k, Destiny is making 60k. Idra charges 300 dollars for one hour of coaching. He could do 5 hours of coaching a week and make 75k just from that. Add in his stream, tournament wins, advertising, possibly salary. He is making good money. | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
On May 03 2011 11:49 Kvothe wrote: I am 100% positive Idra is making more than 40-50k, Destiny is making 60k. Idra charges 300 dollars for one hour of coaching. He could do 5 hours of coaching a week and make 75k just from that. Add in his stream, tournament wins, advertising, possibly salary. He is making good money. LOL how does destiny make 60k? | ||
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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
(though 6 figures would be nice on top of doing what you love) | ||
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Soulous
United States133 Posts
He consistently has a lot of viewers and streams 10+hrs a day in addition to about 2 lessons every day? | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10290 Posts
Less popular streamers or streamers not at their peak (more about 2k) will still get $5 or so per hour, so that's quite amazing. Not to mention some money you get from VOD views ^_^ I forget the value, Cella mentioned it a few times, I think on Justin.tv it was 0.01 cents per viewer per ad, or 0.02 per viewer per ad. Quite a lot! It's $.002 cents per viewer that watches the commercial. Obviously, the more you stream, the more you make. I believe Idra is the person I've seen with the highest number of viewers ever at 11k or something. He was making $22 per commercial, which isn't bad considering most games last 15-20 minutes tops. Redo your math, that is 22 cents. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
btw he charges that much not because he is in that high of demand but because he doesn't want to coach.. unless someone pays him tremendously. | ||
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kittymakemybed
14 Posts
On May 03 2011 12:02 iNcontroL wrote: fun thread but so far this has been a bunch of people that have absolutely no idea judging/speculating on the salaries of players based on what Destiny said in an interview and what IdrA charges for coaching. btw he charges that much not because he is in that high of demand but because he doesn't want to coach.. unless someone pays him tremendously. that's all we can do judge and speculate we are ill-informed | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
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lazydino
Canada331 Posts
I would like to know this as well! | ||
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NoahNickels
United States102 Posts
On May 03 2011 11:49 Kvothe wrote: I am 100% positive Idra is making more than 40-50k, Destiny is making 60k. Idra charges 300 dollars for one hour of coaching. He could do 5 hours of coaching a week and make 75k just from that. Add in his stream, tournament wins, advertising, possibly salary. He is making good money. I want to know where all these rich nubs live that can pay $300 dollars for a friggin' SC2 lesson. I mean really, that blows me away. but more power to Idra if he can do it. that's crazy-town. | ||
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th3_great
United Kingdom429 Posts
He makes 5k a month, so 5k multiplied by 12 is 60k. assuming its a steady income, i can only guess that it ebbs and flows | ||
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Sermokala
United States13689 Posts
On May 03 2011 12:02 iNcontroL wrote: fun thread but so far this has been a bunch of people that have absolutely no idea judging/speculating on the salaries of players based on what Destiny said in an interview and what IdrA charges for coaching. btw he charges that much not because he is in that high of demand but because he doesn't want to coach.. unless someone pays him tremendously. some how that doesn't surprise me I think that its more professional if the pros don't talk about their saleries I would think that most of them are only doing it beacuse they love it so much and that they'd do it for korea style just for food and a place to sleep. I would say however that idra hast to be making some hard bank right now and good for him he mentions his sponsors a lot and has really kept his mouth shut when he rages which hast to be rewarded somehow. Hes really a model pro gamer. On May 03 2011 12:21 NoahNickels wrote: I want to know where all these rich nubs live that can pay $300 dollars for a friggin' SC2 lesson. I mean really, that blows me away. but more power to Idra if he can do it. that's crazy-town. If you've ever seen his stream you'd know instantly. Hes got the craziest macro mechanics in NA. you hear so much in his games that hes supply blocked the SECOND his overlord's pop out. if anyone can teach you how to macro its idra. | ||
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