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GagnarTheUnruly
Profile Joined July 2010
United States655 Posts
May 03 2011 03:32 GMT
#41
I know it's none of our business what the pros make but from an outside perspective it seems like it would be really hard to make a living at pro SC2. Partly I'm curious just because I'd like to know that the pros are making a liveable income!
Kvothe
Profile Joined September 2010
201 Posts
May 03 2011 03:33 GMT
#42
Incontrol is probably like but I only make 15k a year guys, and 90% of that is from casting NASL, no way anyone else can make any money.
Kvothe
Profile Joined September 2010
201 Posts
May 03 2011 03:35 GMT
#43
On May 03 2011 12:32 GagnarTheUnruly wrote:
I know it's none of our business what the pros make but from an outside perspective it seems like it would be really hard to make a living at pro SC2. Partly I'm curious just because I'd like to know that the pros are making a liveable income!


Wait why is it not our business? It's very convenient for the general population to know the salaries of professional players, of any sport. That is why every professional athlete's salary, endorsement deals are pretty well known.
AeroX42
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada16 Posts
May 03 2011 03:36 GMT
#44
I had always been curious... Does anyone know how much Boxer had earn throughout his life? Back in BW and right now. So lifetime earnings for him?
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
May 03 2011 03:38 GMT
#45
For what seems like a modest or average yearly income, I'd say pro sc2 players do quite well, especially considering that they are doing something interesting and fun. And I'm sure there are a few exceptional cases where they are just living the dream (MC 160k+ prize money ~_~_
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Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
May 03 2011 03:38 GMT
#46
On May 03 2011 12:33 Kvothe wrote:
Incontrol is probably like but I only make 15k a year guys, and 90% of that is from casting NASL, no way anyone else can make any money.

He is still making more than the average english graduate out of univeristy :D
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Kvothe
Profile Joined September 2010
201 Posts
May 03 2011 03:39 GMT
#47
On May 03 2011 12:36 AeroX42 wrote:
I had always been curious... Does anyone know how much Boxer had earn throughout his life? Back in BW and right now. So lifetime earnings for him?


I'm sure boxer has made over a million dollars in his career, I think on wiki it said he was making 300k a year at the height. He still does commercials and endorsements, so you could probably say over 2 million quite easily.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
May 03 2011 03:42 GMT
#48
I'm pretty sure it's not very much. I'm guessing it's around $20-$25k a year for a top pro, and anyone lower than that probably around $10k - $15k a year. Now don't go taking this as a fact, as I have no actual idea .
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
May 03 2011 03:42 GMT
#49
On May 03 2011 12:39 Kvothe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 12:36 AeroX42 wrote:
I had always been curious... Does anyone know how much Boxer had earn throughout his life? Back in BW and right now. So lifetime earnings for him?


I'm sure boxer has made over a million dollars in his career, I think on wiki it said he was making 300k a year at the height. He still does commercials and endorsements, so you could probably say over 2 million quite easily.

2 million is quite farfetched. A million is still a hefty amount.
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Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
May 03 2011 03:47 GMT
#50
On May 03 2011 12:42 raf3776 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 12:39 Kvothe wrote:
On May 03 2011 12:36 AeroX42 wrote:
I had always been curious... Does anyone know how much Boxer had earn throughout his life? Back in BW and right now. So lifetime earnings for him?


I'm sure boxer has made over a million dollars in his career, I think on wiki it said he was making 300k a year at the height. He still does commercials and endorsements, so you could probably say over 2 million quite easily.

2 million is quite farfetched. A million is still a hefty amount.

Fatality earned over a million dollars in 1 year, its not a hefty amount for the regions most influential video game player, ever.
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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 03:52:34
May 03 2011 03:52 GMT
#51
boxer's a special case because he's 'the face of starcraft' and he'll get paid a lot more for advertisements and sponsorships etc.

i know for a fact that a certain pro makes 30k/year off sponsorships alone which isn't that much
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Joementum
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 03:56:59
May 03 2011 03:55 GMT
#52
On May 03 2011 12:00 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On Justin.tv, for the very popular streamers (or their peaks, talking about sc2 here btw) several thousand viewers will give you a 1-2 dollars per advertisement. If you give 2-3 advertisements between ladder matches... and play 4 games an hour... wow, that's a good deal! Roughly $16 an hour, and you still get money from prizes and sponsorships, not to mention progamers probably play more hours than the average worker!

Less popular streamers or streamers not at their peak (more about 2k) will still get $5 or so per hour, so that's quite amazing. Not to mention some money you get from VOD views ^_^

I forget the value, Cella mentioned it a few times, I think on Justin.tv it was 0.01 cents per viewer per ad, or 0.02 per viewer per ad. Quite a lot!

Show nested quote +
It's $.002 cents per viewer that watches the commercial. Obviously, the more you stream, the more you make. I believe Idra is the person I've seen with the highest number of viewers ever at 11k or something. He was making $22 per commercial, which isn't bad considering most games last 15-20 minutes tops.


Redo your math, that is 22 cents.


Hopefully, I'm not being an idiot here since I've been studying all night, but here you go.

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On May 03 2011 12:02 iNcontroL wrote:
fun thread but so far this has been a bunch of people that have absolutely no idea judging/speculating on the salaries of players based on what Destiny said in an interview and what IdrA charges for coaching.

btw he charges that much not because he is in that high of demand but because he doesn't want to coach.. unless someone pays him tremendously.


Why not shed some light on it then instead of saying "LOL noobs speculating?" Otherwise, just let us speculate. There's only one player we know of and it's Destiny since he's come out and said how much he makes.
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Sokalo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States375 Posts
May 03 2011 04:03 GMT
#53
There's been one link to compiled tournament winnings and one link to TSL salaries. Beyond that it's been 3 pages of people talking out of their asses and a sprinkling of pure speculation over the top.

I think we all know that Idra, Destiny, MC, and the like are earning a good income. I'd love to hear some of the less visible tournament players/streamers chime in, or someone who is in the know, on what kind of income they pull in and how. Guys like QXC, SeleCT, Ret, Moonglade, etc. They don't seem to make enough from tournament winnings to live on but they must have some support or income coming from somewhere to make it possible to play full time.
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therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
May 03 2011 04:04 GMT
#54
Dont worry They will get a lot of money when proscene move to sc2
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Secret05
Profile Joined August 2010
United States342 Posts
May 03 2011 04:10 GMT
#55
Ya I don't really understand why professional gamers keep they're finances so secret. I mean if they want to be considered on the status as professional athletes, then their salaries should be made public.

The only reason I could think they wouldn't want the money disclosed to the public is because they either make to much money or not enough.
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RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
May 03 2011 04:13 GMT
#56
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Baby_Seal
Profile Joined August 2010
United States360 Posts
May 03 2011 04:15 GMT
#57
I get the impression that this is a topic that the different teams' management generally frown upon players talking about. I've seen this topic come up a few times before, and every time, it always ends without any real information being presented by those that do know.
yarkO
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada810 Posts
May 03 2011 04:20 GMT
#58
I personally don't understand why there's so much cloak-and-dagger nonsense with regards to pro earnings in SC2. What's there to hide? I mean, if I wanted to try my damndest to be a pro, I would want to know what I'm aiming for (should I reach the top).

It's very weird that it's kept such a big secret.
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Rasky
Profile Joined July 2010
United States406 Posts
May 03 2011 04:35 GMT
#59
On May 03 2011 13:20 yarkO wrote:
I personally don't understand why there's so much cloak-and-dagger nonsense with regards to pro earnings in SC2. What's there to hide? I mean, if I wanted to try my damndest to be a pro, I would want to know what I'm aiming for (should I reach the top).

It's very weird that it's kept such a big secret.


I'm on the same boat as you are it's like their own little secret. I would like to know how much guys like TLO, Huk and Jinro make right down to the last penny. Professional athletes make huge multi million dollar contacts and you hear about it all the time and you see it on TV. It grow the game because people wanna be just like them. I don't see why players try so hard to hide how much they make I think it will be good for the sport in general if people knew.
ZpuX
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden1230 Posts
May 03 2011 04:37 GMT
#60
On May 03 2011 12:55 Joementum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 12:00 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On Justin.tv, for the very popular streamers (or their peaks, talking about sc2 here btw) several thousand viewers will give you a 1-2 dollars per advertisement. If you give 2-3 advertisements between ladder matches... and play 4 games an hour... wow, that's a good deal! Roughly $16 an hour, and you still get money from prizes and sponsorships, not to mention progamers probably play more hours than the average worker!

Less popular streamers or streamers not at their peak (more about 2k) will still get $5 or so per hour, so that's quite amazing. Not to mention some money you get from VOD views ^_^

I forget the value, Cella mentioned it a few times, I think on Justin.tv it was 0.01 cents per viewer per ad, or 0.02 per viewer per ad. Quite a lot!

It's $.002 cents per viewer that watches the commercial. Obviously, the more you stream, the more you make. I believe Idra is the person I've seen with the highest number of viewers ever at 11k or something. He was making $22 per commercial, which isn't bad considering most games last 15-20 minutes tops.


Redo your math, that is 22 cents.


Hopefully, I'm not being an idiot here since I've been studying all night, but here you go.

[image loading]

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 12:02 iNcontroL wrote:
fun thread but so far this has been a bunch of people that have absolutely no idea judging/speculating on the salaries of players based on what Destiny said in an interview and what IdrA charges for coaching.

btw he charges that much not because he is in that high of demand but because he doesn't want to coach.. unless someone pays him tremendously.


Why not shed some light on it then instead of saying "LOL noobs speculating?" Otherwise, just let us speculate. There's only one player we know of and it's Destiny since he's come out and said how much he makes.

Hmm I guess the money part is kinda confusing, first it says $ which indicates it's in dollars, but then after it says "cents" which actually means 0.002 cents and not 0.002 dollar. Anyhow it should be $0.002 which indeed is $22/ad.
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