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"A moment of laxity spawns a lifetime of heresy"
This quote from WH40K is perfectly suited for the current state Teamliquid.net has found itself in. I don't really know how or when exactly did it happen but I'm seriously disappointed with TL right now... I've always viewed this site as having quality content and high standards. A peaceful oasis among the sandstorms ravaging the internet. Unfortunately, soon after the opening of SC2 forum section it all begun to change. I don't know if it was caused by the sudden influx of new users or because the mods have lowered a bar a bit, but things started going downhill from then on. There are still a lot of quality threads, especially in the Broodwar and Tourneys sections of TL.net, where people keep up the good work and make excellent use of the new features being added to the site. The General, Starcraft 2 and Blogs sections of the forum have deteriorated greatly though...
Whenever I come to visit TL.net this days and I'm browsing through the forums, it seems that all I see is Pokemon, Apop and porn, an uncanny combination of things I never wanted to see around here. The seemingly omnipresent NSFW tag is being abused all around the place. Where once it was used to hide an occasional titty flash, now it has actual pornography hidden behind it. I'm not a person to bash porn, I just think there are better places to look for it than this site. The same goes for Pokemon and all sorts of Asian pop (this one being offensive only when it starts spreading to other threads than the ones dedicated for it).
What has happened? Who is responsible for this? How (if at all) will Teamliquid recover from it? This are just a few questions that are on my mind right now. Personally I decided to pick up the slack and no longer give in to the deterioration of this great site. I have a solemn resolve to up the quality of my posts and refrain from posting inappropriate content.
Teamliquid.net needs you! Help improve the quality of the site to restore it to its former glory!
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It's the SC2 hype and the flood of new users. Interest in brood war pretty much is at a decline for a while since everyone is analyzing SC 2.
Just hang in there =)
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konadora
Singapore66063 Posts
Blame it all on SC2.
I SHALL JOIN THE RESOLVE!
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So it's not just me, although I've been a lurker most of the time.
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The blogs are hit and miss, mostly miss. Some are really good, most aren't, like any content.
The general section was never good, lol.
The SC2 section is the one most impacted by the new users influx.
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Actual porn? Where was I when this happened and why wasn't I informed?
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why cant people post kpop in the general forum? what's wrong with nsfw links provided they are spoiler-ed and such?
theres plenty of starcraft related content here too. seriously, if you dont want to see kpop, dont click on the kpop thread >.<
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I'm agree with the NSFW -.- Porno is ok but it has nothing in common with the spirit and the purpouse of this site...
However is natural that SC2 is full "of shit". This is a new game and as a new game there is enthusiasm for all the new features..You only need to wait some months and all will return as one month ago
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On March 16 2010 20:31 LuDwig- wrote:I'm agree with the NSFW -.- Porno is ok but it has nothing in common with the spirit and the purpouse of this site... However is natural that SC2 is full "of shit". This is a new game and as a new game there is enthusiasm for all the new features..You only need to wait some months and all will return as one month ago
It's not one month ago... It's been going on for some time now (I believe it started when SC2 was announced).
And spoiler tags were not added with primary purpose being hiding porn...
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i for one think that drhelvetica's blogs have been a great addition to the site
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Netherlands19125 Posts
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On March 16 2010 20:40 JohnColtrane wrote: i for one think that drhelvetica's blogs have been a great addition to the site
+1 haha
Honestly I dont really see this as a problem, its not like a go to a starcraft discussion thread and someone starts posting vods of kpop singers having sex
One thing that would be nice though if there was a rule that people who post porn always have to write NSWF-porn or something, since NSFW can mean quite a few things and you dont necessarily expect something like that.
But I still dont really get it, I never stumble upon porn or stuff like that in any sort of serious thread.
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Isnt general for everything in general? if that wasn't the case, most of the threads in there should be shut down.
but the nsfw tag has been really abused in the past few months.
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Canada5565 Posts
I place my trust in the godly ban powers our admins wield As long as these things are kept to their respective threads (random pics that make you laugh, K-pop discussion, etc.) I don't see the problem. The SCII forum has been bad but as we've seen the admins are banning people left and right for less than quality posting, so I think that not only are things going to get better from here on out but once the community has been exposed to SCII for a longer period of time people will stop posting whatever rubbish they come up with out of pure excitement. Also, there are a lot of new users, but I think this is a good thing.
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I've seen the NSFW tags on the blogs of asian chicks, but porn?
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I've really only noticed this trend in the SC2 forums. Even then, the mods stay on top of closing the awful threads/banning the really bad posters pretty well. The general forum seems the same as ever to me, same with blogs, broodwar, and tourneys
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Canada9720 Posts
k/c/j pop is all goddam awful, but what can ya do
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I certainly agree with you. I can't say I'm surprised by the blog section though because, I never really expected high quality threads there anyway.
General used to be like the RSS feed with latest news. It was awesome browsing it. Now it's more... general as in "everything" and less "news" and cool stuff.
I knew right from the start that the SC2 forum was going to be the biggest shithole ever when we go into beta or retail. Newbs flooding in, kids with beta access and <10 posts discussing balance (more like crying about balance rofl...) and generally the lowest posting standards ever. I don't mean that FrozenArbiter is doing a bad job by this, but either he's too lantient there or there's too much for him to keep up. The saying "options are like assholes, and noone wants to hear yours" fits in perfectly.
IMO we need another purge or get Mani to come back. Alternatively give Rekrul the banstick back.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
whats wrong with asian pop ? what if it was polish hard rock being posted in a LR thread cuz it soudns epic?
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Blog and General have always been quite bad. I mean there are some really good threads but most of the stuff is like random news, anime, terrible music and movies ( Thanks Daigomi for posting good stuff btw ) , pseudo religion stuff, undergrad Eco students arguing about why libertarians speak the truth, and once in a while a ridiculous China thread will appear.
But the worst is the Sc2 forum. Thanks god the mods have started the purge.
However when i look at my own blogs i feel somewhat guilty too :<
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