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eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
March 16 2010 18:46 GMT
#81
Another factor that's ruining TL is people who pop in every thread saying, "TL had such better threads back in the day..."

I mean honestly, how can you even begin to complain about the content of a "general" forum? How can you tell people what they should blog about?

If people aren't interested in a thread it will naturally die, it's how forums work.

But yeah the SC2 section is bad, but I never go in there anymore anyways.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
March 16 2010 19:05 GMT
#82
FOR THE EMPEROR

BURN THE HERETIC
KILL THE MUTANT
PURGE THE UNCLEAN

etc.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
FiBsTeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States415 Posts
March 16 2010 19:12 GMT
#83
On March 16 2010 20:20 Manit0u wrote:
I have a solemn resolve to up the quality of my posts and refrain from posting inapropriate content.


My dear friend, must you adulterate these hollowed grounds of TL with your egregious typographical errors? For shame, how the times have changed.
Mellotron
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States329 Posts
March 16 2010 19:16 GMT
#84
I give Mani a ton of credit for closing the NSFW thread. Its not easy to make that kind of decision. Im sure that in time TL will be fine. I still see a ton of well written stuff here all the time.
Starcraft player since 1999
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
March 16 2010 19:21 GMT
#85
Anyone ever been to a livestream chat a few minutes early before some mediocre MST/OSL group (especially the late-night ones)? The chat there is so nice .

I agree with Emon (I think?)'s post about some sort of spam forum. Sigs gone, doesn't count for postcount, no hotlinks, etc. A lot of the time I'm reading PX or looking at the featured threads and half of them are blogs that I never saw while browsing (and I browse TL a lot), because they're buried under the masses of "[SC2]" or whatever threads that nobody cares about.

I came here from a smash bros. forum, and if the Brawl influx was any indication, eventually the new users will mostly just stay within the bounds of their chosen forum. Some of the better posters will come out and explore the rest of the site eventually but it should die down.

chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
March 16 2010 19:28 GMT
#86
A post-SC2 influx of people was inevitable. Although TL won't be exactly as it was a few years ago, if you stick around I'm sure the bans will be numerous and purges pleasant and brutal. The site is fine now and it'll be better as time goes on.

I wish there was a fantasy banning league where we could make wagers on who was going to go. 10 points for a 2 day ban, 50 for a 2 week. Oh my god it'd be great if not for the inevitable flaming it'd result in.
:O
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
March 16 2010 19:34 GMT
#87
A forum needs to teach its users how to post; it can't just impose rules and stay away.

Likewise, keeping the forum small is only a lazy and short term solution. Contributors won't have always the same quality in their posts nor will they keep posting forever.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 16 2010 19:35 GMT
#88
There isn't a lot of GREAT debates here so much. That makes me a bit sad.. but I don't think that really makes TL "bad."

TL is still the best. Our bar for expectation is really high. So like Mani said, when you have a doubled user base it takes time for people to learn forum etiquette and for those that won't to get weeded out.

Have patience my WH40k friend, it will be .leveled out eventually
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 16 2010 19:35 GMT
#89
i blame SC2 too D:
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 19:46:14
March 16 2010 19:44 GMT
#90
I just tell myself every night that a few months after SC2 is released, the flood will slowly go down, and those detrimental members will start to fade away.

On March 17 2010 04:34 Cloud wrote:
A forum needs to teach its users how to post; it can't just impose rules and stay away.

Likewise, keeping the forum small is only a lazy and short term solution. Contributors won't have always the same quality in their posts nor will they keep posting forever.

The problem is that it starts to diminish true desire to contribute to a site. The biggest reason why our staff and mods are so great is because they work on their own initiative. If you start saying you *will* be a good member, and you *will* contribute, that initiative is gone, and it is a debate of quality vs quantity. Let good people stay, let bad people leave.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17756 Posts
March 16 2010 19:51 GMT
#91
On March 17 2010 04:34 Cloud wrote:
A forum needs to teach its users how to post; it can't just impose rules and stay away.

Likewise, keeping the forum small is only a lazy and short term solution. Contributors won't have always the same quality in their posts nor will they keep posting forever.


Rules are there for the people who do not wish/are unable to learn. And there seems to be quite a lot of those. Quality posters and most of the "mature" users don't even need to read the Commandments or any other basic set of rules like that as in most cases it comes naturally to them.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 20:28:31
March 16 2010 20:26 GMT
#92
People tend to romanticism for the past. Is it truly better or just perceived as better.

Imo the blog section has trends currently it's to something you don't like i remember when it was all about dream journals lol

Also if you take a look at bans and take the derivative of it most mods have increased.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108269&currentpage=3

they have increased over time.
eXNewB
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada291 Posts
March 16 2010 20:46 GMT
#93
Sorry, we'll make sure to get back to talking about whatever you like
THERES NO WAY HE CAN STOP THOSE HYDRAS!
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 21:46:30
March 16 2010 21:43 GMT
#94
yeah I`m kinda sad about the "Random pics that make u laugh" thread . Even though the quality was gettin` low, there were still great ones. And the last one...even though it was porn, it was pretty awesomely funny
errr, nvm :D
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10830 Posts
March 16 2010 21:44 GMT
#95
On March 17 2010 05:26 Virtue wrote:
People tend to romanticism for the past. Is it truly better or just perceived as better.

Imo the blog section has trends currently it's to something you don't like i remember when it was all about dream journals lol

Also if you take a look at bans and take the derivative of it most mods have increased.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108269&currentpage=3

they have increased over time.

i agree that bans have increased but you also need to take into account that there are a LOT more users now than before. i guess maybe think of it as a bans per capita type of deal? lol

anyway, regarding the OP: yes staff have noticed many of the same problems you have outlined and have discussed ways to deal with it. we'll see what we come up with though lol.
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
March 16 2010 21:48 GMT
#96
Darwinism. Weed 'em out.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
March 16 2010 22:06 GMT
#97
On March 17 2010 04:16 Mellotron wrote:
I give Mani a ton of credit for closing the NSFW thread. Its not easy to make that kind of decision. Im sure that in time TL will be fine. I still see a ton of well written stuff here all the time.


I caved.
ModeratorGodfather
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
March 16 2010 22:09 GMT
#98
TL is a reflection. There's a huge vanity problem here and it's undeserved.

It's ironic that the people I see who have most to be proud of are the most humble, and the people who have the least are the quickest fill up with hot air. From just being on this site, people get a superiority complex, and boy, if you start giving them a few powers it's suddenly really blatant when they're looking down at you.

You can look at the general mish mash of topics and say you're disappointed, but I think the problem is deeper rooted than that. TL is full of self-fascinated dickheads that just make dumb replies and lower the overall motivation of posters to create an OP that takes an ounce of creativity. That's why we get PYF threads everywhere, and smutty picture threads. They're the only ones people are willing to put the time into replying to. That and mildly controversial threads like this one. Who the hell wants to do anything for these idiots? Not me.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
March 16 2010 22:21 GMT
#99
Chef so most posters on teamliquid are still at egocentricism part of cognitive development so they must be between the ages of two and seven. :D

Actually I can see that " OMg noob just fucking 3 hatch it's not that hard"
"It is hard! i need help please"
"god dam nub l2practice it's easy"

I can do it so they can do it mentality resulting in rage
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
March 16 2010 22:22 GMT
#100
On March 17 2010 07:06 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2010 04:16 Mellotron wrote:
I give Mani a ton of credit for closing the NSFW thread. Its not easy to make that kind of decision. Im sure that in time TL will be fine. I still see a ton of well written stuff here all the time.


I caved.


why did you close Manit0u's new picture thread? it had a lot of potential if properly moderated. at least also ban the idiots that messed it up and demanded that they're allowed to behave like the idiots they are?

that thread would have been the ideal place to weed out people who can't follow rules.
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