EPTSometimes it just feels like trying to present a dissertation on Immanuel Kant's works in a classroom full of 12 year olds with just 2 or 3 people actually trying to listen and understand you to provide constructive criticism or a valuable discussion.
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Manit0u
Poland17684 Posts
Sometimes it just feels like trying to present a dissertation on Immanuel Kant's works in a classroom full of 12 year olds with just 2 or 3 people actually trying to listen and understand you to provide constructive criticism or a valuable discussion. | ||
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Mooga
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Manit0u
Poland17684 Posts
Also, flame wars weren't so intense and happened less often. Another thing to note is that when someone asked for help, usually a couple of first posts were people actually trying to help and not instantly calling OP 'noob' or changing the subject completely. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On March 17 2010 07:22 distant_voice wrote: why did you close Manit0u's new picture thread? it had a lot of potential if properly moderated. at least also ban the idiots that messed it up and demanded that they're allowed to behave like the idiots they are? that thread would have been the ideal place to weed out people who can't follow rules. Yeah but then you have to suffer going though the thread to find those people. I think threads like that should be closed i don't really like the youtube thread or what music you are listening to but it's fine as it's not all "humor" resulting in 1000 dirty jokes and crapp pictures | ||
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [polish] + podobna historia była z wykop.pl, jeśli odwiedziałeś kiedyś  ciekawa stronka zniszczona przez mase dzieciarni | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On March 17 2010 04:51 Manit0u wrote: Rules are there for the people who do not wish/are unable to learn. And there seems to be quite a lot of those. Quality posters and most of the "mature" users don't even need to read the Commandments or any other basic set of rules like that as in most cases it comes naturally to them. You mean the internet found TL.net? Credit to the mods/admins for staying on top of it. I really don't understand what you want Manitou, it's an inevitable byproduct of popularity, it's not like people on the internet will suddenly become "mature" individuals or frankly care. Just look at the ban list, some of those people have a decent amount of posts under them here at TL.net. Also, honestly, this is one of the few places I would recommend that someone to just ignore the bad posts and trust that the admins/mods will take care of it. I mean if those people cared enough, then they'll come back and shape up, if not oh wells. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17684 Posts
I'm well aware that most of what's happening now is the byproduct of popularity and influx of new people, but it doesn't necessarily have to mean that TL.net has to turn into another battle.net forums or 4chan. I extend my praises to the TL.net admin/mod body as they're doing an awesome job trying to keep things under control. Despite all that, perhaps it's time for a small revolution in here? Maybe some inner workings of the site need to be changed? Future goals and plans reviewed? What actually IS teamliquid.net and what makes it so? I won't pretend I have all of the answers, because I don't. It might be worthwhile though to give it some thought. | ||
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Mooga
United States575 Posts
On March 17 2010 07:44 Manit0u wrote: I did. And posting quality did change. Go check out random threads from 2003 or 2004 and compare the amount of 'lol', 'this', '+1', 'just quote', 'insert foul language here' type of comments. Also, flame wars weren't so intense and happened less often. Another thing to note is that when someone asked for help, usually a couple of first posts were people actually trying to help and not instantly calling OP 'noob' or changing the subject completely. Oh really? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=1&sort=post¤tpage=552 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=16237 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=900 These are completely random threads that I tabbed through in the General forum. Maybe you're just reminiscing about good threads a long time ago, because I think the posting quality in these old threads is actually worse than it is now. Your perception may be skewed because you (hopefully) got more intelligent over the years which caused you to be less tolerant of crappy posts. | ||
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goswser
United States3548 Posts
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PH
United States6173 Posts
But it should even out soon enough. I finally came in and registered during the last big hype wave, with Tasteless's GOM Star Invitational and the TSL being broadcast, and it ended up chilling out. God can only hope it does so for this one. | ||
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Whiplash
United States2929 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
On March 17 2010 07:33 Mooga wrote: Go to the archives and find a random thread that's 6 years old in any of the forums you listed. I guarantee you that posting quality has not changed much since then. It's irrelevant to the spirit of the discussion whether TL was better than it is now or not. I think the OP is asking you to decide if you're satisfied with the quality of TL forums or not, and if not why you think that is and what solutions you can think of. Ideally, anyway. I remember this kind of topic coming up before, and my suggestion is the same as before. There needs to be a hall of shame forum, where all bad threads get moved. Not closed. Just moved. That way mods don't have to feel guilty about closing popular threads, but it sends a clear message that this kind of posting is crap ANNNND it makes all the other forums so much cleaner and full of pretty much only good OPs. Which will make reading TL a lot more enjoyable for everyone. That doesn't fix bad posting, but it makes it more manageable. It would mean that making crappy one line posts might be more tolerated in the Hall of Shame forum, but if you fuck up good OPs on the A forums you'll have more mods on your ass because those are the threads they'll be focusing on. It's semi-radical, but I really think it would work. The system we have right now is broken anyway, so we need to start trying new things. If my suggestion sounds like it forces mods to be really subjective, I suggest thinking about what mods currently do. The other thing I could think of that would improve TL is just veterans and staff being better role models. Or really, everyone in general, and mod's and veterans shouldn't be above good, and POLITE posting. Not everyone is bad, but a lot of people who have been here a long time seem to think they're entitled to being a nasty person. Catty comments, ignoring social etiquette, and other just idiotic behaviour. Of course, I think what I'm suggesting is easier said than done. It's hard to say how many people are really unsatisfied with TL forums, and how many people don't see a problem. I suspect the unsatisfied are in the minority, or at least a large portion of them are ambivalent toward the idea and will wait until someone else does something about it. | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
Whenever I come to visit TL.net this days and I'm browsing through the forums, it seems that all I see is Pokemon, Apop and porn, an uncanny combination of things I never wanted to see around here. no idea about Pokemon but asian pop and porn (provided NSFW and spoiler tag) were tolerated by teamliquid long before SC 2 beta came out | ||
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
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Helium
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LuCky.
Zimbabwe91 Posts
Obviously. | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
Sorry. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=78119 | ||
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DoX.)
Singapore6164 Posts
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Durak
Canada3685 Posts
I have found your posts to be not only useful but an asset to the forum. Here are two examples that have helped me. Hope you stick around, Durak | ||
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