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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
March 16 2010 15:36 GMT
#61
Livestream chats with a lot of people (and sometimes even with a low number of people) are cancer. Only solution is to disable the chat.

Regarding the original issue I'm going to mostly agree with Mani that there is still quality stuff, but that it's harder to find. TL and its forums certainly has a hard challenge with SC2.

ModeratorHi! I'm a .signature *virus*! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9027 Posts
March 16 2010 15:43 GMT
#62
Time is all we need.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 16 2010 15:44 GMT
#63
On March 17 2010 00:27 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2010 22:06 Roffles wrote:
I equate it to my Livestream chats over the months that I've streamed. At the beginning when I only peaked at around 300 viewers per night, I used to really enjoy sitting down and chatting with the sparse few that would talk in my chatroom. We'd talk about almost anything, from the games itself to whatever else was happening at the time. And it'd be nicely paced where everything was still nice and orderly. However, I nowadays get about 750 people per night watching my streams, upwards of 1500 when popular gamers/teams are playing. It's absolutely impossible with the influx of people to have an organized chat and share your opinions when people are just spamming random nonsense. When one person starts doing it, others feel like its appropriate to start doing so as well, and thus chaos erupts.


xxx: whos playin???
xxx: Flash green, Light red
xxx: buffer into gg
xxx: BUFFER INTO GG ROFL
xxx: lol power outage
xxx: anyone else laggin?
xxx: this is chinacceptable
xxx: whos playin? did flash play yet?

Ugh. I started watching the streams a couple months ago, and I can only dream about having decent, mature discussion while watching a game live. Jokes and banter are fine, but the unfortunate tendency of the internet is to devolve into worthless meme slinging.


That's just how it is. I've already given up hope for any meaningful conversation. These days I just leave it on and retreat to IRC. I used to get pissed off cause people are idiots, but as of late, I've been pretty apathetic towards everything. It's as if I'm immune to it now. Just click, choose IP Ban Forever and head back to IRC. It's never gonna change. It's just the way things are.
God Bless
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
March 16 2010 15:52 GMT
#64
Even if I'm part of the problem, this thread makes me feel sad :<
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 16:03:18
March 16 2010 16:01 GMT
#65
I was however under the impression ( checking ban thread and closed threads ) that mods were actually busy cleaning up the mess and I refrained, eventho I have the same impression as Manitou and others, to PM someone about it.

Maybe they could say, give the ops within his thread to the thread starter if he has over xxxx number of posts and has a clean history. Since we're looking for mature people and we say we have some around they could as well teach the kids one way or another. Because I don't see any other way to educate newcomers than to show them the exemple of a clean place / thread. Maybe that way they'll learn ? Less global bans and maybe give more warnings that would not allow you to post for a couple of hours. That way maybe people will think twice before posting random crap in the threads.

But there will be a demographic issue anyway.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
March 16 2010 16:03 GMT
#66
What is the current post limit to be able to make a new topic ? Maybe it should be increased.
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meteorskunk
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada546 Posts
March 16 2010 16:05 GMT
#67
On March 17 2010 01:03 Senx wrote:
What is the current post limit to be able to make a new topic ? Maybe it should be increased.

I think it's just one week after registration regardless of post count.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 16:13:59
March 16 2010 16:12 GMT
#68
The TL staff are seasoned veterans who bear the scars of many a troll, which I think makes them kind of set in their ways and reluctant to change, "don't fix what technically isn't ACTUALLY really truly broken" etc etc but one change that would really help is not being able to make new threads before a certain post-count or membership length. This has already been thanks-but-no-thanks'd by said staff I believe, pointing at low-post contributors, but I almost feel like it's not worth the odd brilliant article to see the fifteen new useless topics a week. If someone has something of actual merit to contribute, surely they can let a mod know or something?

And no I may not be the site's number one contributor either, I may even be part of the problem every once in a while, but that doesn't mean stopping the new kids from making new threads the moment they join (asking why they lost to mass scouts) a bad idea.

And I may be a big fan of porn, but when I want porn I go to porn sites. No the NSFW tag doesn't help, you all know you can't NOT click it!

Pokemon.

edit: There's a week's membership's time implemented already? Can anyone tell?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
March 16 2010 16:27 GMT
#69
On March 17 2010 01:12 Osmoses wrote:
The TL staff are seasoned veterans who bear the scars of many a troll, which I think makes them kind of set in their ways and reluctant to change, "don't fix what technically isn't ACTUALLY really truly broken" etc etc but one change that would really help is not being able to make new threads before a certain post-count or membership length. This has already been thanks-but-no-thanks'd by said staff I believe, pointing at low-post contributors, but I almost feel like it's not worth the odd brilliant article to see the fifteen new useless topics a week. If someone has something of actual merit to contribute, surely they can let a mod know or something?

And no I may not be the site's number one contributor either, I may even be part of the problem every once in a while, but that doesn't mean stopping the new kids from making new threads the moment they join (asking why they lost to mass scouts) a bad idea.

And I may be a big fan of porn, but when I want porn I go to porn sites. No the NSFW tag doesn't help, you all know you can't NOT click it!

Pokemon.

edit: There's a week's membership's time implemented already? Can anyone tell?

Yeah, in fact its been mentioned several times in this thread
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
March 16 2010 16:36 GMT
#70
On March 16 2010 20:23 konadora wrote:
Blame it all on SC2.

I SHALL JOIN THE RESOLVE!


Leah Dizon?
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17341 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 17:03:18
March 16 2010 17:00 GMT
#71
On March 17 2010 01:36 sArite_nite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2010 20:23 konadora wrote:
Blame it all on SC2.

I SHALL JOIN THE RESOLVE!


Leah Dizon?


sArite_nite was banned from this blog for sidetrack attempt.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
March 16 2010 17:02 GMT
#72
I don't think it's all that bad, but tl most certainly had a better atmosphere/discussion going a couple of years back. I remember being lifetime banned as a 14 year old kid for something pretty minor, but the "present me" would easily prefer the state that tl was in back then.
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
March 16 2010 17:07 GMT
#73
The Blog section has always been the "trashcan" of TeamLiquid. While hidden gems can be found here and there, the only reason the Blog section (Miscellaneous/Second General would be more appropriate names) generally exists is to keep the rest of the forum tidy. This has been the case long before the recent influx of new members and you must not have read it much in the past to only notice this fact now.

General is.....general. I mean, I hate KPop and Pokémon too, but a great deal of people on TL hold interest in such topics (and this was before the influx as well). As such, it makes perfect sense it would be located in the General section.

As for the SC2 section, I do agree to an extent that it has deteriorated. It is to be expected with so many new members and not enough people to handle it all. But assuming dilligent moderation, it should eventually get better.
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 17:31:09
March 16 2010 17:09 GMT
#74
Make the minimum age for registration 18 years. It will at least result in more mature, insightful posting. I was a complete retard between the ages of 14-19 and can see why there's a million posts that say "lolz...+_+;;..jizzn in ma pants!"

We'd have to set it up trap style though. Like when you register an account with March 17, 1995 as your birthday, a message comes up that says "Congratulations on joining TL.net! You will gain full posting priveleges in 3 years. Please take that time to review our forum guidelines and have fun reading others' posts!"

Then we log the IP so if they remake another account right after we just blast it.
-fj.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Samoa462 Posts
March 16 2010 17:10 GMT
#75
I don't think it's gotten much worse :\

Personally, xxsk4t3rg0h4nxx was one of my favorite TL users

+ Show Spoiler +
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
March 16 2010 17:48 GMT
#76
i fail to see how comparing pokemon with progamer faces. is not in the spirit of teamliquid.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
dyren
Profile Joined December 2009
United States260 Posts
March 16 2010 17:49 GMT
#77
+ Show Spoiler [NSFW!] +
jk.


Good points all around I'm interested as well in returning TL to its former glory
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 18:23:13
March 16 2010 18:19 GMT
#78
On March 17 2010 02:48 StorrZerg wrote:
i fail to see how comparing pokemon with progamer faces. is not in the spirit of teamliquid.



ah geez to think soon everyone will have forgotten this

Pro gaming in its current state should be preserved and turn into something like Go or Chess, unless Sc2 meets the same physical handskill caliber.

Otherwise we might only see tall white dudes instead of the asian midget fetish we all share.

How can Blizzard not see this !

Especially we now have Hyunjoon in the progamer show that is a living proof of true Korean Esport greatness and spirit.
Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
March 16 2010 18:22 GMT
#79
I don't feel TL.net is changing or even going down in quality.
They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
March 16 2010 18:23 GMT
#80
On March 17 2010 03:22 Pika Chu wrote:
I don't feel TL.net is changing or even going down in quality.


Your Id and location are like walking memes tho --
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