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iG.Zeep
Profile Joined May 2008
Mexico253 Posts
March 16 2010 12:16 GMT
#21
"give Rekrul the banstick back."

plz
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
March 16 2010 12:17 GMT
#22
biggest problem is that so many people just post for the sake of posting without contributing anything.

shit like "cool (whatever) bro" also is getting really annoying. maybe admin should close registration for a couple of weeks, weed out the trash and then go from there. atm the site is much too crowded.

another problem might be that most of the people who loved Broodwar are aged in their early or even late twenties now whereas the bulk of the new users who come here because of Starcraft2 are probably much younger. now I know that there are great contributors on this site that are very young (Frozenarbiter for example was very young when he first came here and I think konadora is also still pretty young) but still age might have something to do with how posting has changed around here.
This is my truth, tell me yours!
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
March 16 2010 12:17 GMT
#23
This is why I stay primarily in the tourney sections >.>

Though for one thing reading the Automated Ban list isn't as fun these days when it's just people getting owned for being stupid...
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
March 16 2010 12:18 GMT
#24
Yeah, I admit that I haven't been doing the greatest job with my posts recently and even though I would argue I specifically am not part of the problem, I think that I'm not doing enough to spread positive vibes and discussion into the site.

Hopefully all the veterans put a little bit more thought into things before they hit the post button. I know for myself personally I can get a little to "one linery" which encourages new users to do the same...
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
March 16 2010 12:19 GMT
#25
all this obsession with starcraft 2 is killing TL for me at the moment. however, i'm happy that some people still watch live matches.
Brood War loyalist
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
March 16 2010 12:23 GMT
#26
On March 16 2010 21:18 Vasoline73 wrote:
Yeah, I admit that I haven't been doing the greatest job with my posts recently and even though I would argue I specifically am not part of the problem, I think that I'm not doing enough to spread positive vibes and discussion into the site.

Hopefully all the veterans put a little bit more thought into things before they hit the post button. I know for myself personally I can get a little to "one linery" which encourages new users to do the same...


I think there are still enough positive vibes, the quality posters haven't gone away (yet). it's just being drowned out by the sheer amount of shit that's being posted.
This is my truth, tell me yours!
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
March 16 2010 12:25 GMT
#27
They don't post porn, pokemon, and _pop in the SC2 sections...

so I'm guessing that you've been reading the forums more due to SC2, and seeing these subjects more often.

They get posted because they're popular, and they're popular because the demographics continually shifts. Unless you control the userbase, it's going to happen.

Hoping it goes back is like older generations complaining teenage culture being sexualized at younger ages, wishing rap died in the 90s, and countries complaining about immigrants.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27140 Posts
March 16 2010 12:26 GMT
#28
I don't think TL is bad, I just think it is diluted. There are 5x as many people visiting as when the OP was active. TL was simply not built for 30k visitors a day, let alone the 60k we get now.

I do think that the SC2 forum was terrible because new posters were making crappy threads as if this were the battle net forums. However, now that the behaviour is being weeded out, I think the SC2 forum is very decent.

Blogs... meh, blogs suck. Too many are created every day. The NSFW stuff I am not in favour of either and I think that will stop soon. General is the same as always, just with a few more on going threads and less of a current events focus. That trend is 3 yeas old though.
ModeratorGodfather
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
March 16 2010 12:38 GMT
#29
With new users and little regulation, you'll always boil down to the lowest common denominator.

Thankfully, the new SC2 forum guidelines keep shit in line. The difficult part is regulating a huge site like TL in order to keep the quality of posts at maximum.

But yes...as manifesto has already said, it is a dilution. I personally would like to contribute some articles or write something of worth someday when I have the time. Perhaps there should be some monthly article contest, similar to contests SC:L has done, to spur community participation.
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ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
March 16 2010 12:42 GMT
#30
I agree with you mr OP, things have gotten abit out of line. Hopefully it will balance out in the future
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27140 Posts
March 16 2010 12:42 GMT
#31
To be honest I think there are tons of good posts every day. But, other than the hardcore people who read everything, they can be very hard to find. Even the news gets a cursory glance by many people. Also, with so many nooks and crannies in the site, people generally gravitate toward the same areas each visit, creating different environments on different parts of the board.
ModeratorGodfather
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17243 Posts
March 16 2010 12:55 GMT
#32
That's a part of what I meant. There still IS a lot of quality content around, but it becomes gradually harder to find as we're being drowned in a lot of poor topics or topics that are being side-tracked 10 times during first 3 pages and devolve into another flame war.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
March 16 2010 12:55 GMT
#33
I believe TL.net is fine. It has regulated shit like SC / SC2 forums. (They should be regulated to keep things on-topic.) And blogs for random stuff, that range from a day in the park to asian softcore porn.

To me, it's fine.

The other sections like General still have quite interesting new stories and other stuff that can be fun to learn, which it's usually regulated better then blogs, so imo it works too.

TL to me is a well working machine!
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 16 2010 12:56 GMT
#34
You really have a point here, i too hate the tone of pop and porno shit that's present on the site. The asian pop was so omnipresent that if i opened a PL stream it was more likely to catch some of that instead of sc, not mentioning the tone of threads and blogs.

Altough the Random pics that make you laugh, even if NSFW and decreased in quality as time passed, was a great thread. I for one love funny fails and stuff like that, but i dont have the time and the taste to go to failblog 4chan and other sites like that, to search trough pages of boring stuff to find a good one. There different people who lurk at different sites posted their favorites making it a really intresting and hillarious collection.
Many sc-related pictures borned there as well, i think it is a mistake to have it closed :S
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
March 16 2010 12:57 GMT
#35
I think the blog section used to be better than it is now, I feel like it was used for actual blogs and right now it`s more of a "I just made a shitty thread so I think I`ll just post it in blogs". General section doesn`t appeal to me personally either recently, but I think it`s more of an opinion since it`s just more of a shift towards different than towards bad.

When I think about I make a lot of one-line posts myself which would contribute more if they were not posted at all. Teamliquid is by far the best internet forum I have ever stumbled upon so it`s definitely the time to change posting habits.

TL should probably go back at least to its former state, at least to a certain degree after the SC2 fuss is gone.
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 13:04:12
March 16 2010 13:03 GMT
#36
[image loading]

Poll: What is the the worst kind of threads ?
(Vote): PvZ Imba
(Vote): Eco libertarians threads
(Vote): Hey look this random video !
(Vote): China is full of evil commies blablabla
(Vote): TvP is rigged i quit bw
(Vote): Why i'm a Christian
(Vote): Roach / Immortal / whatever IMBA FIX PLZ !


Hard to tell .... that's a multiple tie imo.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
March 16 2010 13:05 GMT
#37
Is there a choice "All of the above" in the above poll?
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27140 Posts
March 16 2010 13:05 GMT
#38
Roach / Immortal / whatever IMBA FIX PLZ !

OMG I hate these threads so much. Sometimes I don't see them right away too, but they are all by sub 50 post people, and they get responses so fast. Maybe it doesn't seem like it, but it REALLY feels shitty as a mod to close a thread that has two pages of replies already. Like... I just wasted everyone's time. But those threads are a goddamn cancer.
ModeratorGodfather
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 16 2010 13:06 GMT
#39
On March 16 2010 21:57 barth wrote:
I think the blog section used to be better than it is now, I feel like it was used for actual blogs and right now it`s more of a "I just made a shitty thread so I think I`ll just post it in blogs". General section doesn`t appeal to me personally either recently, but I think it`s more of an opinion since it`s just more of a shift towards different than towards bad.

When I think about I make a lot of one-line posts myself which would contribute more if they were not posted at all. Teamliquid is by far the best internet forum I have ever stumbled upon so it`s definitely the time to change posting habits.

TL should probably go back at least to its former state, at least to a certain degree after the SC2 fuss is gone.

I don't think this is ever going to happen in the future. As Teamliquid grows, the number of people coming in on a daily basis will continue to increase. It's inevitable that posting quality and overall forum quality deteriorates as overall members increase. It's just how it is. When things are nice and limited, everyone contributes and pitches in a little here and there. But when more people flock in, everyone feels the need to try to stick out a little here and there.

I equate it to my Livestream chats over the months that I've streamed. At the beginning when I only peaked at around 300 viewers per night, I used to really enjoy sitting down and chatting with the sparse few that would talk in my chatroom. We'd talk about almost anything, from the games itself to whatever else was happening at the time. And it'd be nicely paced where everything was still nice and orderly. However, I nowadays get about 750 people per night watching my streams, upwards of 1500 when popular gamers/teams are playing. It's absolutely impossible with the influx of people to have an organized chat and share your opinions when people are just spamming random nonsense. When one person starts doing it, others feel like its appropriate to start doing so as well, and thus chaos erupts.

It'll be hard for TL to go back to what it was before unless things change. Moderation'll have to kick in, and commoners like you and me are gonna have to contribute and set an example for newcomers as to how things should be done around here with better blogs, better threads, better posts. Till then, it's just gonna be a chaotic influx of SC2 idiots who feel like they know everything there is to know about the game.
God Bless
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
March 16 2010 13:14 GMT
#40
I think that the significance NSFW/Apop/Pokemon hold to the deterioration of the blogs section pales in comparison to the influx of random "what I think about SC2" threads that seem to pop up every five minutes in the blogs section because they don't belong anywhere else and everyone is just dying to read your thoughts and feelings about SC2, along with the thoughts and feelings of ten billion other people.
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