Dude, guys, as sad is it is to say that this is more Effort just being a wimp instead of a real problem, it is. To roughly translate the situation 1. Effort wanted to use windows xp in season 2, citing control issues in Windows 7 in ZvT. Apparently muta cloud control is weird or something in windows 7. 2. OGN says NOPE 3. Effort practices for 5 months or so on Windows 7 4. Bisu asks, I think before the 2nd season, to be allowed to use Windows xp, OGN agrees 5. Effort shows up, is surprised when the launcher is xp, but since he didn't have to face any terrans, and just goes with it. 6. After fighting Mind and losing, he THEN now says that it was OGN's fault for switching to xp, and announces he wont play on his PERSONAL STREAM on Afreeca. As far as I can tell, he didn't officially tell OGN he was quitting, he bascially just cited some non-sensical reasons as to why he was dropping out while streaming on Afreeca.
TLDR; After Effort lost to Mind, he acts like a spoiled child, citing that OGN shouldn't have changed the launcher from 7 to xp. He's basically saying you like Bisu better than me, so f*** you OGN(ignoring that Bisu asked before the tournament while he asked during it, I think). Its ironic that he mentions the launcher change as well as a bunch of personal stuff as the reason he's dropping because he said all this garbage the MINUTE he loses against Mind. Most people here, myself included, can declare that Effort is a really ill-mannered kid. He complains the minute he loses, citing at best half-baked reasons and doesn't even have the manners to officially report to OGN he is dropping out.
However, while Effort also didn't act his age, OGN didn't either; the choice they made to say OK to Bisu's request while ignoring Effortt's doesn't sit right, and to be honest, neither party in this event is innocent. OGN are showing almost blatant favoritism when it comes to who they listen to, and Effort really could have handled the incident better and more maturely.
On July 07 2015 21:22 BLinD-RawR wrote: can someone actually tell me if there really is a difference between XP and Win7 in terms of unit control or more specifically muta control?
wait, so officially he has not dropped out of the tournament?
i played on both. I didn't see the problem with responsiveness
This is one of the worst reasons you can give to quit a SSL of all reasons
On July 07 2015 21:22 BLinD-RawR wrote: can someone actually tell me if there really is a difference between XP and Win7 in terms of unit control or more specifically muta control?
wait, so officially he has not dropped out of the tournament?
i played on both. I didn't see the problem with responsiveness
On July 07 2015 21:15 Orlok wrote: After Effort lost to Mind, he acts like a spoiled child, citing that OGN shouldn't have changed the launcher from 7 to xp. He's basically saying you like Bisu better than me, so f*** you OGN(ignoring that Bisu asked before the tournament while he asked during it, I think).
effort practiced on win7 for 5 months, obviously he didnt ask during it.
if you are an athlete in a competitive event and you are refused permission to use equipment B and can only use equipment A. then you train heavily with equipment A for 5 whole months. then a week prior to the event a star athlete comes along and got his request to use equipment B for the whole event accepted easily, unlike your request 5 months earlier. you would become pretty incensed too that you are made to train on an obsolete equipment for so long.
effort himself or someone needs to curb his drinking habits i think, effort tends to go off without restraints on his stream and starts saying the wrong things which is mostly likely reason for this fiasco.
I don't know, not all publicity is good publicity.
I just hope that all the relevant parties sort this thing out and make sure it never happens again. And agreed, EffOrt should curb his drinking habits but that's for him to do though.
On July 07 2015 23:31 c3rberUs wrote: I don't know, not all publicity is good publicity.
I just hope that all the relevant parties sort this thing out and make sure it never happens again. And agreed, EffOrt should curb his drinking habits but that's for him to do though.
there is no such thing as bad publicity.
sad that some people still don't know the different between bgh and hunters... or the fact they're both old maps. Heck they even played homage to them in the other games heh.
On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote: i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.
i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game
What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least.
Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over.
Actually, with regards to a Zerg unit, "Hunters" refer to a specialized elite strain of Hydralisks that have double the HP and attack of normal Hydralisks. Just look up "Hunter Killer". If Effort had been massing hunters on his stream, and he is not allowed to mass them in the SSL, I can understand why he would be upset - they are a lot more effective against sieged tanks (they take 2 + shots to be killed), and are generally a better unit.
On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote: i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.
i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game
What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least.
Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over.
Also everybody played Hunters because when you scrolled down to find a big map it was the last of the list. That's why it's popular too
On July 07 2015 22:57 BisuDagger wrote: Hate to say it but this #drama is actually pretty good for the scene. We needed something to get irate about.
That's too true... Human nature is weird.
Also i hope it's not that thing again when Bisu is good looking so they listen to him but not to effOrt.