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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 12:58:07
July 07 2015 08:29 GMT
#1
UPDATE:
On July 07 2015 21:46 GTR wrote:
It looks like his agency company Kongdoo has come out with an apology for Effort's recent actions.
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2015070720091014503



via dailyesport: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2015070717213394115


He forfeited over disagreements regarding the OS and launcher OGN was using, which was evidently not what he uses to practice.


Feel free for those with better Korean than mine to make a more accurate translation.
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remag
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany354 Posts
July 07 2015 08:40 GMT
#2
Effort wtf?
Why would he care for a stupid launcher?
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
July 07 2015 08:44 GMT
#3
Some more context about the situation/controversy:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24525197
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 09:40:52
July 07 2015 09:38 GMT
#4
i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.

i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
July 07 2015 09:51 GMT
#5
On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote:
i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.

i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game

What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least.

Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over.
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sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
July 07 2015 09:54 GMT
#6
On July 07 2015 18:51 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote:
i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.

i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game

What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least.

Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over.

hunters stands for a custom map called big game hunters, where have inifite resources in your main base.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9520 Posts
July 07 2015 10:02 GMT
#7
On July 07 2015 18:54 sabas123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 18:51 Shuffleblade wrote:
On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote:
i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.

i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game

What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least.

Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over.

hunters stands for a custom map called big game hunters, where have inifite resources in your main base.

The Hunters and Big Game Hunters are different maps. They're not custom maps and they're both original Blizzard maps (with The Hunters being first and Big Game Hunters added with the expansion I think due to popular demand). The Hunters has normal amount of resources (has 10 mineral patches compared to the usual 9 I guess, but still only 1,500 minerals on each and 1 geyser) while Big Game Hunters has "infinite" amount (actually it's 50,000 minerals per mineral patch; plus 15 mineral patches in each main base and 2 geysers).

EffOrt, as do most Koreans, plays The Hunters I believe, not the Big Game Hunters.
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TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 10:15:36
July 07 2015 10:06 GMT
#8
Hunter is actually the version of big game hunters which has limited resources. It's a 8 player map. With more mineral blocks at each mineral/2 vespene geysers at each spot. Minerals and gas's in each corner, sides,top and bottom of map. Speaking on the forfeit of effort. That is on him if hes mad about a misunderstanding. Also shouldn't he much more used to xp bw anyways considering he had requested for it earlier. It's part of bw professionalism to be ready for anything. He should of known bisu would receive star treatment anyways. As he has earned eveything he has ever gotten.
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Facet
Profile Joined June 2015
43 Posts
July 07 2015 10:12 GMT
#9
Maybe that launcher permits custom hotkeys and he doesn't want players using them.

Maybe he uses custom hotkeys, in which case I recommend buying key remapper. You can even set numbers on windows, capslock, tabs etc keys or middle mouse buttons with it for ez control group management.

Anyway, fuck! Effort = my favorite zerg
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51499 Posts
July 07 2015 10:15 GMT
#10
effort has played as a professional before custom hotkeys, why would he change now?

this sounds like a bunch of stupid shit. i reckon he's just trying to find an excuse to not play after his automobile accident.
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ZodaSoda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
July 07 2015 10:15 GMT
#11
Is this Windows 7 / XP thing really a thing? does one get game changing less responsive Mutas when running BW on 7 than on XP?

Does BW running natively on 7 mess it up?
or
Does compatibility mode for XP in 7 mess up BW?

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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51499 Posts
July 07 2015 10:22 GMT
#12
windows 7 has been out for over 6 years. i'm sure that if there was any responsiveness problems in regards to unit control, it would have been already reported by now.
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 10:23:52
July 07 2015 10:23 GMT
#13
I'm sad because he's a good zerg, but this gives sSak a better chance at advancing so as a sSak fan I can't help but feel slightly happier. :p
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
July 07 2015 10:33 GMT
#14
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
July 07 2015 10:36 GMT
#15
There's no need to show your caprice when you got into ro16. Effort played 2 games at ro24, there weren't any problems for him and his performance which boasted highly. Why some third party program is that important when you play/use the core of game which Blizzard made and patched?

Truly bad if one of the Zerg will be vanished. Are we gonna see again Terran dominiance?
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6771 Posts
July 07 2015 10:57 GMT
#16
this is unbelievable.
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
July 07 2015 10:58 GMT
#17
It's bad when such a good zerg forfeits. And I can certainly understand him being sad if double standards have been applied when XP was requested. Maybe Sonic can work some of his magic and negotiate with him?:-(
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
July 07 2015 11:12 GMT
#18
It's bad when one of the few S-class players active in the world forfeits. The reasoning sounds too petty and f'd up.

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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6771 Posts
July 07 2015 11:22 GMT
#19
On July 07 2015 19:58 arbiter_md wrote:
It's bad when such a good zerg forfeits. And I can certainly understand him being sad if double standards have been applied when XP was requested. Maybe Sonic can work some of his magic and negotiate with him?:-(


i have the feeling that Sonic will not like effort ragequit --.anyway im sure if it was Bisu the thing would have been different,but who knows,Btw there is something i dont understand very well,effort was mad cuz he played on xp like he requested ?
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
July 07 2015 12:02 GMT
#20
Could someone post more information on the car accident? I'm just curious how severe it was. I really hope he can recover. Effort had a real tough time during his KESPA days too and I was hoping progamer experience would be different in the SOSPA era. I would have liked to think that Sonic would go and talk with him. SSL is going to take a big hit if Effort and then Bisu (if army makes him) both drop out.
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