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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
July 10 2015 02:14 GMT
#121
Then why don't they just install both XP and Win7?
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
July 10 2015 03:26 GMT
#122
You guys, you can't factor Effort's mom out of the picture. (2010) Contract or Coach Park drama aside, her sickness has been a major burden on him for half a decade, and now she's gone. I'll phrase it more harshly: now she's dead. That tang needs to get cooked into how we're stewing over this thing.

Plus kudos to Scan for the insider knowledge, plus reading the forums, and posting.
BW4LYF . . . . . . PM me, I LOVE PMs. . . . . . Long live "NaDa's Body" . . . . . . Fantasy | Bisu/Best | Jaedong . . . . .
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-10 03:58:00
July 10 2015 03:41 GMT
#123
if winxp is that important effort should have been more persistent in his request for winxp in the first place, he has leverage as one of the "star" players and with the aid of kongdoo he would get his request eventually. then he dont have to waste 5 months on win7 and this whole nonsense wouldn't happen.

his own current handling of the situation just makes him look bad in the eyes of fans who thinks he just using this an excuse to drop out.

i actually feel that kongdoo is also partly at fault here, they should have done more to assist effort in this entire situation and avoid such communication misunderstandings in the first place.

also conspiracy?
OGN rejected effort request for winxp in the first place (not giving him room for negotiation) simply as payback for how effort criticised coach park and CJ in his drunken tirade that time. CJ owns OGN after all...
this explains why they so easily accepted bisu's request instead, despite the fact they are both "star" players of this tourney.
giving their past history of ostracising/kicking "ugly" players i can see CJ being this petty here too.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-10 04:00:25
July 10 2015 03:59 GMT
#124
On July 10 2015 12:41 Probemicro wrote:
if winxp is that important effort should have been more persistent in his request for winxp in the first place, he has leverage as one of the "star" players and with the aid of kongdoo he would get his request eventually. then he dont have to waste 5 months on win7 and this whole nonsense wouldn't happen.

his own current handling of the situation just makes him look bad in the eyes of fans who thinks he just using this an excuse to drop out.

i actually feel that kongdoo is also partly at fault here, they should have done more to assist effort in this entire situation and avoid such communication misunderstandings in the first place.

also conspiracy?
OGN rejected effort request for winxp in the first place (not giving him room for negotiation) simply as payback for how effort criticised coach park and CJ in his drunken tirade that time. CJ owns OGN after all...
this explains why they so easily accepted bisu's request instead, despite the fact they are both "star" players of this tourney.
giving their past history of ostracising/kicking "ugly" players i can see CJ being this petty here too.

while what you wrote is a possibility considering past history, there's no point in spreading these kind of rumours imo. Keep in mind that we also don't know just how Effort went about his request. Did he just ask some random worker and they said no or did he go to the head of OGN? It didn't seem like he got Kongdoo involved and that would've helped him greatly.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-10 04:04:14
July 10 2015 04:01 GMT
#125
just my take on the situation, in any case whats done is done, effort is gonna have a tougher time from now.

On July 10 2015 12:59 BigFan wrote:
Keep in mind that we also don't know just how Effort went about his request. Did he just ask some random worker and they said no or did he go to the head of OGN? It didn't seem like he got Kongdoo involved and that would've helped him greatly.


thats why i say effort should done better in leveraging his position of one of the "star" players to negotiate. with more persistance and asking kongdoo for help he could have succeeded in his request earlier on.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 10 2015 06:15 GMT
#126
On July 10 2015 13:01 Probemicro wrote:
just my take on the situation, in any case whats done is done, effort is gonna have a tougher time from now.

Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 12:59 BigFan wrote:
Keep in mind that we also don't know just how Effort went about his request. Did he just ask some random worker and they said no or did he go to the head of OGN? It didn't seem like he got Kongdoo involved and that would've helped him greatly.


thats why i say effort should done better in leveraging his position of one of the "star" players to negotiate. with more persistance and asking kongdoo for help he could have succeeded in his request earlier on.

yes, agree, it's just too bad that his approach wasn't the best (it sounds like). I'm sure he's going to get a lot of flak for this for a long time.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
July 10 2015 08:39 GMT
#127
On July 09 2015 05:45 GeckoXp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 05:31 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Wow... the 'Big 3' of the tournament were Effort, Bisu, and Mind.

Now Effort's bailed, and Bisu might have to leave in the middle to go join the army??

It's like God hates this SSL or something.



Flash didn't say anything about the SSL, you're misinformed.


Flash? You mean, the SC2 player?

What's he got to do with this?


User was warned for being hilarious
nicoc77
Profile Joined June 2010
Argentina57 Posts
July 10 2015 08:47 GMT
#128
On July 10 2015 17:39 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 05:45 GeckoXp wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:31 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Wow... the 'Big 3' of the tournament were Effort, Bisu, and Mind.

Now Effort's bailed, and Bisu might have to leave in the middle to go join the army??

It's like God hates this SSL or something.



Flash didn't say anything about the SSL, you're misinformed.


Flash? You mean, the SC2 player?

What's he got to do with this?



FlaSh=GOD
The Assassin Dagger will rise again... Kim Taek Yong HWAITING!!!
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6177 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-10 10:54:59
July 10 2015 10:54 GMT
#129
On July 10 2015 17:47 nicoc77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 17:39 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:45 GeckoXp wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:31 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Wow... the 'Big 3' of the tournament were Effort, Bisu, and Mind.

Now Effort's bailed, and Bisu might have to leave in the middle to go join the army??

It's like God hates this SSL or something.



Flash didn't say anything about the SSL, you're misinformed.


Flash? You mean, the SC2 player?

What's he got to do with this?



FlaSh=GOD

He was the god of broodwar.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
July 10 2015 11:15 GMT
#130
On July 10 2015 19:54 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 17:47 nicoc77 wrote:
On July 10 2015 17:39 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:45 GeckoXp wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:31 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Wow... the 'Big 3' of the tournament were Effort, Bisu, and Mind.

Now Effort's bailed, and Bisu might have to leave in the middle to go join the army??

It's like God hates this SSL or something.



Flash didn't say anything about the SSL, you're misinformed.


Flash? You mean, the SC2 player?

What's he got to do with this?



FlaSh=GOD

He was the god of broodwar.



officially confirmed: SC2 is killing religion, aka the faith in god. XD"
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
BeStFAN
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
483 Posts
July 10 2015 11:16 GMT
#131
effort seems to have bad experience with esport
❤ BeSt... ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ #YEAROFKOMA #YEAROFKOMA #YEAROFKOMA ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
July 10 2015 17:50 GMT
#132
On July 10 2015 17:47 nicoc77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 17:39 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:45 GeckoXp wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:31 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Wow... the 'Big 3' of the tournament were Effort, Bisu, and Mind.

Now Effort's bailed, and Bisu might have to leave in the middle to go join the army??

It's like God hates this SSL or something.



Flash didn't say anything about the SSL, you're misinformed.


Flash? You mean, the SC2 player?

What's he got to do with this?



FlaSh=GOD

I prefer to think of him as the Ultimate Weapon.


User was warned for being hilarious
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1565 Posts
July 10 2015 19:22 GMT
#133
it's the first time i hear a difference between winxp and win7. Muta control? I think mine is too bad to notice it
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
July 10 2015 21:30 GMT
#134
On July 10 2015 20:15 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 19:54 Piste wrote:
On July 10 2015 17:47 nicoc77 wrote:
On July 10 2015 17:39 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:45 GeckoXp wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:31 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Wow... the 'Big 3' of the tournament were Effort, Bisu, and Mind.

Now Effort's bailed, and Bisu might have to leave in the middle to go join the army??

It's like God hates this SSL or something.



Flash didn't say anything about the SSL, you're misinformed.


Flash? You mean, the SC2 player?

What's he got to do with this?



FlaSh=GOD

He was the god of broodwar.



officially confirmed: SC2 is killing religion, aka the faith in god. XD"


SC2 isn't doing anything. Not even Brood War itself. Rather, Flash is killing other false religions by walking the earth and showing humanity the light (through Brood War).
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
himurakenshin
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1845 Posts
July 10 2015 23:08 GMT
#135
if he was god he would be good in sc2
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
July 11 2015 01:16 GMT
#136
On July 11 2015 08:08 himurakenshin wrote:
if he was god he would be good in sc2


well, sc2 is made by the antichrist and thus negates his divine powers. Easy, right?
Broodwar for life!
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 11 2015 02:02 GMT
#137
On July 11 2015 10:16 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 08:08 himurakenshin wrote:
if he was god he would be good in sc2


well, sc2 is made by the antichrist and thus negates his divine powers. Easy, right?


Nah sc2 is made for mere mortals and God can't infringe on free will.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
July 11 2015 02:54 GMT
#138
It's hard to come back to a game that you left behind. You realize that everyone around you kept on practicing, continued to learn and improve.

Maybe I can catch up? With this injury, I'm not sure.
Maybe I've thrown my talent away.
Maybe I should move on.
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
July 11 2015 05:15 GMT
#139
On July 11 2015 11:02 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 10:16 Cele wrote:
On July 11 2015 08:08 himurakenshin wrote:
if he was god he would be good in sc2


well, sc2 is made by the antichrist and thus negates his divine powers. Easy, right?


Nah sc2 is made for mere mortals and God can't infringe on free will.


Don't start a holy war versus each other over this disagreement in doctrine
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
July 11 2015 05:24 GMT
#140
[image loading]

this IS why hes no longer God
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