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Orlok
Profile Joined June 2014
Korea (South)227 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 12:19:14
July 07 2015 12:15 GMT
#21
Dude, guys, as sad is it is to say that this is more Effort just being a wimp instead of a real problem, it is.
To roughly translate the situation
1. Effort wanted to use windows xp in season 2, citing control issues in Windows 7 in ZvT. Apparently muta cloud control is weird or something in windows 7.
2. OGN says NOPE
3. Effort practices for 5 months or so on Windows 7
4. Bisu asks, I think before the 2nd season, to be allowed to use Windows xp, OGN agrees
5. Effort shows up, is surprised when the launcher is xp, but since he didn't have to face any terrans, and just goes with it.
6. After fighting Mind and losing, he THEN now says that it was OGN's fault for switching to xp, and announces he wont play on his PERSONAL STREAM on Afreeca. As far as I can tell, he didn't officially tell OGN he was quitting, he bascially just cited some non-sensical reasons as to why he was dropping out while streaming on Afreeca.

TLDR; After Effort lost to Mind, he acts like a spoiled child, citing that OGN shouldn't have changed the launcher from 7 to xp. He's basically saying you like Bisu better than me, so f*** you OGN(ignoring that Bisu asked before the tournament while he asked during it, I think). Its ironic that he mentions the launcher change as well as a bunch of personal stuff as the reason he's dropping because he said all this garbage the MINUTE he loses against Mind. Most people here, myself included, can declare that Effort is a really ill-mannered kid. He complains the minute he loses, citing at best half-baked reasons and doesn't even have the manners to officially report to OGN he is dropping out.

However, while Effort also didn't act his age, OGN didn't either; the choice they made to say OK to Bisu's request while ignoring Effortt's doesn't sit right, and to be honest, neither party in this event is innocent. OGN are showing almost blatant favoritism when it comes to who they listen to, and Effort really could have handled the incident better and more maturely.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 12:25:30
July 07 2015 12:22 GMT
#22
can someone actually tell me if there really is a difference between XP and Win7 in terms of unit control or more specifically muta control?

wait, so officially he has not dropped out of the tournament?
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purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
July 07 2015 12:22 GMT
#23
Wow, lame
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 07 2015 12:34 GMT
#24
wow this just sounds like a bad excuse
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 07 2015 12:46 GMT
#25
On July 07 2015 21:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:
can someone actually tell me if there really is a difference between XP and Win7 in terms of unit control or more specifically muta control?

wait, so officially he has not dropped out of the tournament?


i played on both. I didn't see the problem with responsiveness


This is one of the worst reasons you can give to quit a SSL of all reasons
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 12:47:51
July 07 2015 12:46 GMT
#26
It looks like his agency company Kongdoo has come out with an apology for Effort's recent actions.
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2015070720091014503

Sounds like a bunch of miscommunication between the players and OGN. Also talks about a wrist injury that Effort has been concealing until now?
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
July 07 2015 12:56 GMT
#27
can you update the OP and title with that.
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9516 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 12:58:35
July 07 2015 12:57 GMT
#28
On July 07 2015 21:56 BLinD-RawR wrote:
can you update the OP and title with that.

let's wait until there's something actually confirmed

edit: with the title change i mean; i updated the OP with the relevant info
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TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 13:05:01
July 07 2015 13:04 GMT
#29
Sounds like hes just coming up with all kinds of excuses all of a sudden. No, but really, he has the right too.
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oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
July 07 2015 13:32 GMT
#30
On July 07 2015 21:46 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 21:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:
can someone actually tell me if there really is a difference between XP and Win7 in terms of unit control or more specifically muta control?

wait, so officially he has not dropped out of the tournament?


i played on both. I didn't see the problem with responsiveness

maybe at 400apm muta micro there is
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 07 2015 13:45 GMT
#31
First, the drunken tirade against CJ for treating him unfairly. Now, this.

Geeze, Effort really seems to be the Roy Keane / Nick Krygios / <enter name of sporting diva> of SC.
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 13:57:05
July 07 2015 13:55 GMT
#32
On July 07 2015 21:15 Orlok wrote:
After Effort lost to Mind, he acts like a spoiled child, citing that OGN shouldn't have changed the launcher from 7 to xp. He's basically saying you like Bisu better than me, so f*** you OGN(ignoring that Bisu asked before the tournament while he asked during it, I think).


effort practiced on win7 for 5 months, obviously he didnt ask during it.

if you are an athlete in a competitive event and you are refused permission to use equipment B and can only use equipment A. then you train heavily with equipment A for 5 whole months. then a week prior to the event a star athlete comes along and got his request to use equipment B for the whole event accepted easily, unlike your request 5 months earlier. you would become pretty incensed too that you are made to train on an obsolete equipment for so long.

effort himself or someone needs to curb his drinking habits i think, effort tends to go off without restraints on his stream and starts saying the wrong things which is mostly likely reason for this fiasco.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19276 Posts
July 07 2015 13:57 GMT
#33
Hate to say it but this #drama is actually pretty good for the scene. We needed something to get irate about.
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
July 07 2015 14:27 GMT
#34
wow drama..
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
July 07 2015 14:31 GMT
#35
I don't know, not all publicity is good publicity.

I just hope that all the relevant parties sort this thing out and make sure it never happens again. And agreed, EffOrt should curb his drinking habits but that's for him to do though.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 07 2015 14:36 GMT
#36
On July 07 2015 23:31 c3rberUs wrote:
I don't know, not all publicity is good publicity.

I just hope that all the relevant parties sort this thing out and make sure it never happens again. And agreed, EffOrt should curb his drinking habits but that's for him to do though.


there is no such thing as bad publicity.

sad that some people still don't know the different between bgh and hunters... or the fact they're both old maps. Heck they even played homage to them in the other games heh.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
July 07 2015 14:48 GMT
#37
Effort is the flash that gets ignored

He notably complained about switch to newer monitors in like 2011 (at least in english translated interviews). That's valid though

And, well, we all know his OSL tiebreaker round

iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10208 Posts
July 07 2015 15:11 GMT
#38
.... wtf?
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miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 15:20:45
July 07 2015 15:17 GMT
#39
On July 07 2015 18:51 Shuffleblade wrote:
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On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote:
i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.

i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game

What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least.

Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over.


Actually, with regards to a Zerg unit, "Hunters" refer to a specialized elite strain of Hydralisks that have double the HP and attack of normal Hydralisks. Just look up "Hunter Killer". If Effort had been massing hunters on his stream, and he is not allowed to mass them in the SSL, I can understand why he would be upset - they are a lot more effective against sieged tanks (they take 2 + shots to be killed), and are generally a better unit.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 15:53:07
July 07 2015 15:46 GMT
#40
On July 07 2015 18:51 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote:
i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.

i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game

What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least.

Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over.


Also everybody played Hunters because when you scrolled down to find a big map it was the last of the list. That's why it's popular too

On July 07 2015 22:57 BisuDagger wrote:
Hate to say it but this #drama is actually pretty good for the scene. We needed something to get irate about.


That's too true... Human nature is weird.

Also i hope it's not that thing again when Bisu is good looking so they listen to him but not to effOrt.
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