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On July 08 2015 00:17 miercat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 18:51 Shuffleblade wrote:On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote:
i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.
i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least. Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over. Actually, with regards to a Zerg unit, "Hunters" refer to a specialized elite strain of Hydralisks that have double the HP and attack of normal Hydralisks. Just look up " Hunter Killer". If Effort had been massing hunters on his stream, and he is not allowed to mass them in the SSL, I can understand why he would be upset - they are a lot more effective against sieged tanks (they take 2 + shots to be killed), and are generally a better unit.
I mean, I laughed.
Also, is Effort officially out or is it still up in the air? Hope he doesn't leave.
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well his next match isn't until sunday so there's time to defuse the situation
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Oh seriously? I really tried to like this guy.
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wow, brutal. I hope effort settles down, would be a shame to see him quit the tournament
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No one mentioning ChRh and NaDa?
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On July 08 2015 04:16 LaStScan wrote:
I'm Zero's ZvT practice partner(probably not the first main partner), and I've sensed zero's muta micro and game flow were extremely good. I also believe myself that Zero uses Win 7. When we were practicing, he was on full screen mode.
His muta micro was very good.
I also played many games with HyuK on ladder, and his muta is more aggressive than Zero's.
Both has a strong muta micro on Win 7 from my PoV.
According to Beast, he said that as long as you adjust Win 7, microing is about the same.
I think Effort was drunk and said random stuff that was coming to his mind.
Who is better Muta micro, Zero or Hyuk?
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Windows 7 *does* have issues with BW. Most of them have been fixed today.
What I have seen myself furing years:
- minimizing after launch FIXED Aero issue
- focus steal NOT FIXED When in full screen gaming mode, certain Windows apps may steal focus and provokimg lag.
Affected: BW, W3, DoW - generally games with older engines. SC2 seems unaffected
- Explorer + Aero active preventing BW from laumching FIXED
- Third party programs would be a category too large, but focus steal (Yahoo mess still does it after 10 years...), accesibility, scheduled tasks, app updates, hooks, explorer bonks etcetcetc - believe me, I've even seen hpshellext64.dll (HP printer shell extension) injected in BW and services (!!)
Windows XP is simpler, desktop composition is missing and not interfering, no Aero, tiles, previews and the gazillion of new things that can work at best 'acceptable' with a legacy app such as BW.
I dont know if Effort ragequitted or just was angry because of losing. But muta acceleration is especially sensitive, because of the great number of mouse events, to something like "the message loop in Windows XP checked for about 1/3 things as Win7". And there's multi desktop; message filtering; UIPI and so many things that can slow in certain conditions such as muta 480 apm.
Effort might have a point, after all. Or he does not know how to finetune Win7 
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On July 08 2015 11:07 miercat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 04:16 LaStScan wrote:
I'm Zero's ZvT practice partner(probably not the first main partner), and I've sensed zero's muta micro and game flow were extremely good. I also believe myself that Zero uses Win 7. When we were practicing, he was on full screen mode.
His muta micro was very good.
I also played many games with HyuK on ladder, and his muta is more aggressive than Zero's.
Both has a strong muta micro on Win 7 from my PoV.
According to Beast, he said that as long as you adjust Win 7, microing is about the same.
I think Effort was drunk and said random stuff that was coming to his mind.
Who is better Muta micro, Zero or Hyuk?
the only right answer is Jaedong
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On July 08 2015 12:34 Probemicro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 11:07 miercat wrote:On July 08 2015 04:16 LaStScan wrote:
I'm Zero's ZvT practice partner(probably not the first main partner), and I've sensed zero's muta micro and game flow were extremely good. I also believe myself that Zero uses Win 7. When we were practicing, he was on full screen mode.
His muta micro was very good.
I also played many games with HyuK on ladder, and his muta is more aggressive than Zero's.
Both has a strong muta micro on Win 7 from my PoV.
According to Beast, he said that as long as you adjust Win 7, microing is about the same.
I think Effort was drunk and said random stuff that was coming to his mind.
Who is better Muta micro, Zero or Hyuk? the only right answer is Jaedong
Sadly, my last memory of Jaedong's muta was him getting out-muta-microed by Hydra 
That said, Effort shouldn't be so upset. Heck, everyone loses to Mind! Even Bisu!
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Really hope cooler heads prevail and EffOrt keeps playing. Would be a shame to lose a very strong zerg, and my personal favorite BW active player.
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^ Just saw that in the LR thread, really disappointed. He could've easily voiced his concerns and made sure it doesn't happen again. He also got xp back anyways which is what he wanted in the first place so his mutalisk micro shouldn't have been that affected. Either way, he was really unprofessional and his exit is a big disappointments to many in the community who had high hopes for him. Hope this is the last time he acts this way but doesn't sound like it based on his past history.
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RIP
what a huge shame
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thats pretty lame, but OGN should also give another progamer an opportunity, even if they have 0-1 score from effort.
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On July 08 2015 01:05 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 00:46 FFW_Rude wrote:On July 07 2015 18:51 Shuffleblade wrote:On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote:
i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.
i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least. Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over. Also everybody played Hunters because when you scrolled down to find a big map it was the last of the list. That's why it's popular too  On July 07 2015 22:57 BisuDagger wrote:
Hate to say it but this #drama is actually pretty good for the scene. We needed something to get irate about. That's too true... Human nature is weird. Also i hope it's not that thing again when Bisu is good looking so they listen to him but not to effOrt. Bisu will always get special treatment because of his looks. He's so handsome you can't even be jealous. You just have to appreciate it.
For ONE TIME i was serious. Was talking about the rumors (or were they) about Effort's departure from CJ. Am i wrong ? That's why you got to the "fun way" ? :p
On July 08 2015 06:45 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 06:29 mierin wrote:On July 08 2015 01:11 vOdToasT wrote:On July 08 2015 01:05 BisuDagger wrote:On July 08 2015 00:46 FFW_Rude wrote:On July 07 2015 18:51 Shuffleblade wrote:On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote:
i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.
i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least. Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over. Also everybody played Hunters because when you scrolled down to find a big map it was the last of the list. That's why it's popular too On July 07 2015 22:57 BisuDagger wrote:
Hate to say it but this #drama is actually pretty good for the scene. We needed something to get irate about. That's too true... Human nature is weird. Also i hope it's not that thing again when Bisu is good looking so they listen to him but not to effOrt. Bisu will always get special treatment because of his looks. He's so handsome you can't even be jealous. You just have to appreciate it. Are you bisexual? 'Cause I'm looking at Bisu and I'm not feeling it. So maybe bisexuality is what I'm missing. + Show Spoiler + Maybe you do have to be bisexual...pretty sure I'm straight and think Effort is hotter. He just has this aggressive killer look about him...then again I'm all about zerg so that might be what I look for in guys Bisu is probably the most generically handsome starcraft progamer. Reach is more manly and herO / midas is cuter but that's about it.
NaDa though.
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As a zerg player this is sad
On July 08 2015 08:16 Letmelose wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 06:45 Caihead wrote:On July 08 2015 06:29 mierin wrote:On July 08 2015 01:11 vOdToasT wrote:On July 08 2015 01:05 BisuDagger wrote:On July 08 2015 00:46 FFW_Rude wrote:On July 07 2015 18:51 Shuffleblade wrote:On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote:
i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.
i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least. Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over. Also everybody played Hunters because when you scrolled down to find a big map it was the last of the list. That's why it's popular too On July 07 2015 22:57 BisuDagger wrote:
Hate to say it but this #drama is actually pretty good for the scene. We needed something to get irate about. That's too true... Human nature is weird. Also i hope it's not that thing again when Bisu is good looking so they listen to him but not to effOrt. Bisu will always get special treatment because of his looks. He's so handsome you can't even be jealous. You just have to appreciate it. Are you bisexual? 'Cause I'm looking at Bisu and I'm not feeling it. So maybe bisexuality is what I'm missing. + Show Spoiler + Maybe you do have to be bisexual...pretty sure I'm straight and think Effort is hotter. He just has this aggressive killer look about him...then again I'm all about zerg so that might be what I look for in guys Bisu is probably the most generically handsome starcraft progamer. Reach is more manly and herO / midas is cuter but that's about it. There's more, excluding the ones you mentioned. Pro.NT_JuNiTosS http://i.imgur.com/7lDzxEa.jpgSea.ruby http://cfile3.uf.tistory.com/image/18107D3850C36D7428DBB3YellOw http://file.instiz.net/data/file/20131116/e/e/3/ee3a3b72621355a58aae73f8678ea0f6.pngSlayerS_`BoxeR` http://cfile25.uf.tistory.com/image/24310B39515BD94F28C48BPersonally speaking, I think Pro.NT_JuNiTosS was probably the most generically handsome progamer, although it has to be said that out of the successful gamers out there, Bisu probably does top the list.
All good pictures. I give you that.
but not one has a thread devoted to them. Not even Bisu.
except for one.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/100673-nadas-body
+ Show Spoiler +inb4 bisudagger makes bisu's body thread
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