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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 07 2015 15:50 GMT
#41
Oh wow, what? Please reconsider effort. I can understand his frustration with Bisu getting special treatment but this could have been handled in better ways.

Also, I've played BW on both xp and 7, never noticed a difference but I'm not playing anywhere near their level.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 16:00:53
July 07 2015 15:57 GMT
#42
And finally, DRAMA
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19371 Posts
July 07 2015 16:05 GMT
#43
On July 08 2015 00:46 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 18:51 Shuffleblade wrote:
On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote:
i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.

i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game

What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least.

Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over.


Also everybody played Hunters because when you scrolled down to find a big map it was the last of the list. That's why it's popular too

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 22:57 BisuDagger wrote:
Hate to say it but this #drama is actually pretty good for the scene. We needed something to get irate about.


That's too true... Human nature is weird.

Also i hope it's not that thing again when Bisu is good looking so they listen to him but not to effOrt.

Bisu will always get special treatment because of his looks. He's so handsome you can't even be jealous. You just have to appreciate it.
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oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
July 07 2015 16:11 GMT
#44
ugh, it's been so long since the last good drama, what took him so long ?
I like starcraft
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 16:12:35
July 07 2015 16:11 GMT
#45
On July 08 2015 01:05 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 00:46 FFW_Rude wrote:
On July 07 2015 18:51 Shuffleblade wrote:
On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote:
i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.

i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game

What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least.

Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over.


Also everybody played Hunters because when you scrolled down to find a big map it was the last of the list. That's why it's popular too

On July 07 2015 22:57 BisuDagger wrote:
Hate to say it but this #drama is actually pretty good for the scene. We needed something to get irate about.


That's too true... Human nature is weird.

Also i hope it's not that thing again when Bisu is good looking so they listen to him but not to effOrt.

Bisu will always get special treatment because of his looks. He's so handsome you can't even be jealous. You just have to appreciate it.


Are you bisexual? 'Cause I'm looking at Bisu and I'm not feeling it. So maybe bisexuality is what I'm missing.
+ Show Spoiler +
Or a soul
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1206 Posts
July 07 2015 16:31 GMT
#46
On July 08 2015 01:11 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 01:05 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 08 2015 00:46 FFW_Rude wrote:
On July 07 2015 18:51 Shuffleblade wrote:
On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote:
i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.

i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game

What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least.

Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over.


Also everybody played Hunters because when you scrolled down to find a big map it was the last of the list. That's why it's popular too

On July 07 2015 22:57 BisuDagger wrote:
Hate to say it but this #drama is actually pretty good for the scene. We needed something to get irate about.


That's too true... Human nature is weird.

Also i hope it's not that thing again when Bisu is good looking so they listen to him but not to effOrt.

Bisu will always get special treatment because of his looks. He's so handsome you can't even be jealous. You just have to appreciate it.


Are you bisexual? 'Cause I'm looking at Bisu and I'm not feeling it. So maybe bisexuality is what I'm missing.
+ Show Spoiler +
Or a soul

Attraction has everything to do with style and hair. and + Show Spoiler +
playing protoss
Flash should fear Sacsri
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19371 Posts
July 07 2015 16:55 GMT
#47
On July 08 2015 01:11 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 01:05 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 08 2015 00:46 FFW_Rude wrote:
On July 07 2015 18:51 Shuffleblade wrote:
On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote:
i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.

i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game

What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least.

Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over.


Also everybody played Hunters because when you scrolled down to find a big map it was the last of the list. That's why it's popular too

On July 07 2015 22:57 BisuDagger wrote:
Hate to say it but this #drama is actually pretty good for the scene. We needed something to get irate about.


That's too true... Human nature is weird.

Also i hope it's not that thing again when Bisu is good looking so they listen to him but not to effOrt.

Bisu will always get special treatment because of his looks. He's so handsome you can't even be jealous. You just have to appreciate it.


Are you bisexual? 'Cause I'm looking at Bisu and I'm not feeling it. So maybe bisexuality is what I'm missing.
+ Show Spoiler +
Or a soul

You're missing #Pashun
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
July 07 2015 17:27 GMT
#48
Wtf at people saying its good to have drama. It actually sucks that one of the best zerg players won't be playing and produces less 'drama' because a candidate to win the tournament is no longer in contention. I hope Effort and OGN can reconcile what seems like a fairly petty concern.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
July 07 2015 17:35 GMT
#49
On July 08 2015 02:27 nbaker wrote:
Wtf at people saying its good to have drama. It actually sucks that one of the best zerg players won't be playing and produces less 'drama' because a candidate to win the tournament is no longer in contention. I hope Effort and OGN can reconcile what seems like a fairly petty concern.

Yep, some people just want high quality matches while others prefer low quality entertainment.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19371 Posts
July 07 2015 18:00 GMT
#50
On July 08 2015 02:27 nbaker wrote:
Wtf at people saying its good to have drama. It actually sucks that one of the best zerg players won't be playing and produces less 'drama' because a candidate to win the tournament is no longer in contention. I hope Effort and OGN can reconcile what seems like a fairly petty concern.

I'm just stirring the pot.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
July 07 2015 18:52 GMT
#51
On July 07 2015 21:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:

wait, so officially he has not dropped out of the tournament?

Thanks for snipealot for reviewing the articles -- Effort's fate is basically undecided.

The first Esports article was more of a "reporting what the reporter read from the internet" story, the second was a formal apology from Kongdoo, who represents both Effort and Bisu, stating that it's a misunderstanding and things are still be worked out.

Revised the thread name to be less alarming
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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 19:24:08
July 07 2015 19:16 GMT
#52
I'm Zero's ZvT practice partner(probably not the first main partner), and I've sensed zero's muta micro and game flow were extremely good. I also believe myself that Zero uses Win 7. When we were practicing, he was on full screen mode.
His muta micro was very good.


I also played many games with HyuK on ladder, and his muta is more aggressive than Zero's.
Both has a strong muta micro on Win 7 from my PoV.
According to Beast, he said that as long as you adjust Win 7, microing is about the same.


I think Effort was drunk and said random stuff that was coming to his mind.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10794 Posts
July 07 2015 19:20 GMT
#53
Ahh this is unfortunate... Whatever makes EffOrt happy.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5536 Posts
July 07 2015 20:01 GMT
#54
Thanks scan
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 07 2015 20:11 GMT
#55
On July 08 2015 04:16 LaStScan wrote:
I'm Zero's ZvT practice partner(probably not the first main partner), and I've sensed zero's muta micro and game flow were extremely good. I also believe myself that Zero uses Win 7. When we were practicing, he was on full screen mode.
His muta micro was very good.


I also played many games with HyuK on ladder, and his muta is more aggressive than Zero's.
Both has a strong muta micro on Win 7 from my PoV.
According to Beast, he said that as long as you adjust Win 7, microing is about the same.


I think Effort was drunk and said random stuff that was coming to his mind.

Thanks for the info. Good to know that other zerg progamers don't seem to have any issues with Win 7.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
vgrezende
Profile Joined May 2012
Brazil66 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 21:27:11
July 07 2015 21:26 GMT
#56
Can someone TL;DR a translation of the Kongdoo apology ?
Born to fast expand
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
July 07 2015 21:29 GMT
#57
On July 08 2015 01:11 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 01:05 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 08 2015 00:46 FFW_Rude wrote:
On July 07 2015 18:51 Shuffleblade wrote:
On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote:
i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.

i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game

What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least.

Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over.


Also everybody played Hunters because when you scrolled down to find a big map it was the last of the list. That's why it's popular too

On July 07 2015 22:57 BisuDagger wrote:
Hate to say it but this #drama is actually pretty good for the scene. We needed something to get irate about.


That's too true... Human nature is weird.

Also i hope it's not that thing again when Bisu is good looking so they listen to him but not to effOrt.

Bisu will always get special treatment because of his looks. He's so handsome you can't even be jealous. You just have to appreciate it.


Are you bisexual? 'Cause I'm looking at Bisu and I'm not feeling it. So maybe bisexuality is what I'm missing.
+ Show Spoiler +
Or a soul


Maybe you do have to be bisexual...pretty sure I'm straight and think Effort is hotter. He just has this aggressive killer look about him...then again I'm all about zerg so that might be what I look for in guys
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 07 2015 21:45 GMT
#58
On July 08 2015 06:29 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 01:11 vOdToasT wrote:
On July 08 2015 01:05 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 08 2015 00:46 FFW_Rude wrote:
On July 07 2015 18:51 Shuffleblade wrote:
On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote:
i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.

i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game

What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least.

Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over.


Also everybody played Hunters because when you scrolled down to find a big map it was the last of the list. That's why it's popular too

On July 07 2015 22:57 BisuDagger wrote:
Hate to say it but this #drama is actually pretty good for the scene. We needed something to get irate about.


That's too true... Human nature is weird.

Also i hope it's not that thing again when Bisu is good looking so they listen to him but not to effOrt.

Bisu will always get special treatment because of his looks. He's so handsome you can't even be jealous. You just have to appreciate it.


Are you bisexual? 'Cause I'm looking at Bisu and I'm not feeling it. So maybe bisexuality is what I'm missing.
+ Show Spoiler +
Or a soul


Maybe you do have to be bisexual...pretty sure I'm straight and think Effort is hotter. He just has this aggressive killer look about him...then again I'm all about zerg so that might be what I look for in guys


Bisu is probably the most generically handsome starcraft progamer. Reach is more manly and herO / midas is cuter but that's about it.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11301 Posts
July 07 2015 23:06 GMT
#59
Man, progamers are so good, I'd never notice a difference.

Thanks scan!
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 07 2015 23:16 GMT
#60
On July 08 2015 06:45 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 06:29 mierin wrote:
On July 08 2015 01:11 vOdToasT wrote:
On July 08 2015 01:05 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 08 2015 00:46 FFW_Rude wrote:
On July 07 2015 18:51 Shuffleblade wrote:
On July 07 2015 18:38 Probemicro wrote:
i always felt something was off and wrong ever since he started only massing hunters on stream after his hospital discharge...i have a feeling this is just a cover to the true reason why hes forfeiting.

i mean if thats really the case, why is zero, killer, larva etc. not protesting as well? i dont think the os would really significantly affect his game

What the hell is hunters? I'm not that knowledgeable about bw but thought I knew the names of all the units at the very least.

Sounds bad for Effort, hope this stuff blows over.


Also everybody played Hunters because when you scrolled down to find a big map it was the last of the list. That's why it's popular too

On July 07 2015 22:57 BisuDagger wrote:
Hate to say it but this #drama is actually pretty good for the scene. We needed something to get irate about.


That's too true... Human nature is weird.

Also i hope it's not that thing again when Bisu is good looking so they listen to him but not to effOrt.

Bisu will always get special treatment because of his looks. He's so handsome you can't even be jealous. You just have to appreciate it.


Are you bisexual? 'Cause I'm looking at Bisu and I'm not feeling it. So maybe bisexuality is what I'm missing.
+ Show Spoiler +
Or a soul


Maybe you do have to be bisexual...pretty sure I'm straight and think Effort is hotter. He just has this aggressive killer look about him...then again I'm all about zerg so that might be what I look for in guys


Bisu is probably the most generically handsome starcraft progamer. Reach is more manly and herO / midas is cuter but that's about it.


There's more, excluding the ones you mentioned.

Pro.NT_JuNiTosS
http://i.imgur.com/7lDzxEa.jpg
Sea.ruby
http://cfile3.uf.tistory.com/image/18107D3850C36D7428DBB3
YellOw
http://file.instiz.net/data/file/20131116/e/e/3/ee3a3b72621355a58aae73f8678ea0f6.png
SlayerS_`BoxeR`
http://cfile25.uf.tistory.com/image/24310B39515BD94F28C48B

Personally speaking, I think Pro.NT_JuNiTosS was probably the most generically handsome progamer, although it has to be said that out of the successful gamers out there, Bisu probably does top the list.
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