EPTDon't listen to idiots, do what makes you happy :D
Going on "Leave" from University to play DotA 2 - Page 2
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.gypsy
Canada689 Posts
Don't listen to idiots, do what makes you happy :D | ||
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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
On December 10 2011 11:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: You're going to quit becoming an engineer just because someone dubbed you into the Hitler meme? My friend is an engineer and he makes 60K a year, and you're excited to make $8/ hour? McDonald's pays better. My main problem is that you clearly don't have the passion for it. It looks like you just consider pro-gaming a regular job and nothing else. You're going to get bored and stop. You even said in your post that you played only 12 hours in one month. Now you're going to do that every day? I don't see you prioritizing this right. Destiny is pretty much the only player who can make a living off streaming, and that's because of his personality. What makes you think you'd get more than 100 viewers? Being good =/= many viewers. Sorry if this sounds harsh; I just want you to be realistic. You have a good thing going for you right now. 60k a year is pretty shit for all the shit engineers have to go through. science sucks shit in the US/canada most people think science is not worth it because they're inherently unintelligent, i wanted to become a physics major but i know i can make like 10x more money if i become a CPA. i say more power to you OP, you only have 1 life to live why not live it in the way that makes you happy? | ||
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dtz
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Don't worry about that right now to be honest. The money is really insignificant anyway if you have less than 1k viewers and considering that Link/Mania/Dendi/Demon/ doesn't even get that many, i don't know if any Dota streamer can right now. Especially because it's so convenient to watch from the in game client. Then again, maybe you can have personality like Destiny that will attract a lot of people. I wish you good luck. If you need help streaming, just go twitch and contact The Gunrun. Basically the man does magic and has helped A LOT of Pros. And you don't even really need very high bandwidth /upload anyway. You just need the proper settings. | ||
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Fishgle
United States2174 Posts
Also, do you have a team? I wouldn't even consider doing anything before that. You're not going anywhere in DotA without a good team. | ||
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EternaLEnVy
Canada513 Posts
On December 10 2011 12:22 Markwerf wrote: This was quite an obnoxious read. You seem to be quite the narcistic character, confidence is one thing but having it too much is just annoying. Also the others are right, you should never leave school for gaming unless you are already having success at that moment. It's a terrible choice to leave school with the expectation that you will do well and make enough money with streaming. If you don't like your education, go do something else or finish it and then go do something else but this entire plan is just rediculous. This bragging about engsci is also just plain annoying I don't think I was bragging at all. If I had real pride in being an eng sci and stuff would I really give it up? I didn't mean anything like that. I only posted the video bcuz it was funny, not too sure if its a good thing or bad but that people are taking this post extremely seriously. I agree that this plan is ridiculous, I don't think any other gamer has ever done this but I don't care, I've thought about it more than everyone here put together and I've decided that its what I want to do, or at least try. Keep in mind that I can come back to school if I fail. | ||
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SafeWord
United States522 Posts
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EternaLEnVy
Canada513 Posts
On December 10 2011 12:35 Fishgle wrote: You're going to have to get unlimited bandwidth or something. IF you have capped internet, which you most likely do, there's no way you can stream at decent quality. And if you cant stream in good quality, no one's going to watch. Also, do you have a team? I wouldn't even consider doing anything before that. You're not going anywhere in DotA without a good team. I don't have unlimited bandwidth but I don't mind paying extra money in order to get it. The issue is that I live in Canada, it may be literally unreachable. If I lived in the US I'm sure I can throw some money and get bandwidth but sadly the issue is a bit more complicated and I'm retarded so that's why this thread was made. As for a team, honestly any team that would take me as I am now is not worth my time. It's not a matter if me being too good or anything, but just how good I have to be. If I'm not one of the best, I may as well give up, and so I don't want a team that would take me for my current skill level. Once DotA 2 starts, I'm sure many people will be driven to play more and a team can be formed then. One reason as to why I've decided to do this now and not after I get my degree is that it's impossible for me to compete with them once I give them time. I can practice retardedly hard but I'm not too sure how talented I really am. That's why I've decided that I need to do this now, i rather give up 1-2 years of my life and realize I can't accomplish anything then regret this for the rest of my life. Because no matter how old I get, Jaedong and those other gamers are the ones I respect most. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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Candide
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Talent.L
119 Posts
what makes you think you will make it far? | ||
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EternaLEnVy
Canada513 Posts
I was top 30 in NA (league IHL ORIGINAL) like a century ago when I was still like 14-15 or something. And then I was trolling in stupid leagues like DcL being rank 1 for like 4 seasons and shit but that doesn't tell me anything. I only played HoN for lols but when I hit 2000 psr I was like, meh, what the hell, let's play some tournys. And sadly, even if I was one of the best in HoN, that's HoN, and I personally think top DotA > top HoN. Also when I played DotA during this year's august I played some really shitty league called DotA Cash where I was rank 2 but real pros make fun of others for playing that league >_>. so ?? ? ? ? ? Edit: fuck I wanted to quote Kenpachi, I don't use forums much  . | ||
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Mystgun
Hong Kong311 Posts
On December 10 2011 12:24 Silidons wrote: 60k a year is pretty shit for all the shit engineers have to go through. science sucks shit in the US/canada most people think science is not worth it because they're inherently unintelligent, i wanted to become a physics major but i know i can make like 10x more money if i become a CPA. i say more power to you OP, you only have 1 life to live why not live it in the way that makes you happy? Where do you get your figures from? ~60k STARTING salary is decent for an engineer compared to the 40k that an accountant would get until they get their CPA which is another year or two of busting their ass, at which point they still make less than the engineer. I worked as an engineer for 4 years and I made well above 60k by the time I changed jobs. Physics is certainly not something you do for the money. I agree with your point that you only have one life, but disagree that doing this will make the OP happy in the long run. One failure scenario described here is that things don't go well for a year or two and then you can go back to school. That's a pretty decent safety net and if that's all you had to worry about, by all means you should take a shot. The scenario I would be worried about is when you have committed ~5 years or so into becoming a progamer and you are starting to fall from your top form. At that point it would be much more difficult to go back to school and get a degree, presumably because your leave of absence won't be valid for such a long period and you would also feel committed to eSports due to the time you've committed to that career track. At the same time you will see less and less sponsorships due to dwindling skills. I encourage you to make your own decision but if you are only thinking 2-3 years ahead you're being a bit myopic and immature. Perhaps you've thought about it through a longer period of time and didn't feel the need to elaborate here, but if you haven't then just take some time to reconsider and maybe reach out to other progamers for their take. | ||
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zz_
Sweden1022 Posts
 I'll be looking out for your stream once you get it going | ||
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rabidch
United States20287 Posts
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EternaLEnVy
Canada513 Posts
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
On December 10 2011 13:06 EternaLEnVy wrote: I'm still wondering if you can stream on both at once trololol. (this might be one really retarded question) It is possible. | ||
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EternaLEnVy
Canada513 Posts
is it common practice? i cant imagine why people wouldnt do it if they have a plan for unlimited bandwidth unless lag. | ||
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red_b
United States1267 Posts
I have 2 college degrees. One is an MA in a quantitative field from a top 25 program. I cant even get callbacks right now unless I apply to sell life insurance to dumb asses. I work part time as an RA and make, per week, less than you would streaming with 1,000 viewers. So all these undergrads who bought that shit their parents told them about college being the most important thing in life, well theyre wrong. College doesnt mean shit. Having parents with connections or going to a good enough school where you can get connections is the ONLY thing that matters right now. If you dont have that and you hate school, quit. I liked school, so I kept going. Dont listen to a bunch of kids who still have the blinders on, listen to your conscious and do what you want to do. You can always go back to school later, lots of people do. The people who are going to graduate, are going to graduate, it's just a matter of when. if you fail to make a living, you'll be just like them, except you wont have a college degree. But it wont matter, because you cant eat a college degree, you cant sleep in a college degree and now a days it doesnt even mean shit. I cant help you with streaming. What I can tell you though is that you'll need more dedication to streaming that you have demonstrated that you have for school. I cant judge if you do or not, only you will know. | ||
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EternaLEnVy
Canada513 Posts
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EternaLEnVy
Canada513 Posts
On December 10 2011 14:35 red_b wrote: yo OP Imma give you the perspective of someone who's done the college thing and understands where you are coming from. I have 2 college degrees. One is an MA in a quantitative field from a top 25 program. I cant even get callbacks right now unless I apply to sell life insurance to dumb asses. I work part time as an RA and make, per week, less than you would streaming with 1,000 viewers. So all these undergrads who bought that shit their parents told them about college being the most important thing in life, well theyre wrong. College doesnt mean shit. Having parents with connections or going to a good enough school where you can get connections is the ONLY thing that matters right now. If you dont have that and you hate school, quit. I liked school, so I kept going. Dont listen to a bunch of kids who still have the blinders on, listen to your conscious and do what you want to do. You can always go back to school later, lots of people do. The people who are going to graduate, are going to graduate, it's just a matter of when. if you fail to make a living, you'll be just like them, except you wont have a college degree. But it wont matter, because you cant eat a college degree, you cant sleep in a college degree and now a days it doesnt even mean shit. I cant help you with streaming. What I can tell you though is that you'll need more dedication to streaming that you have demonstrated that you have for school. I cant judge if you do or not, only you will know. Thanks :D. I've already completely decided though, there isn't anything but limitations beyond my reach that can stop me. Like if I can't stream at all in Canada then I'll be crying for the next month. If I was going to doubt myself after a few comments from random people who obviously don't care enough to respond properly, how am I going to be able to focus on climbing the ladder. | ||
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