On November 30 2012 13:08 Franthier wrote: Seriously man, I think you should just focus on school, finish it and then go pro in DOTA 2. If you start playing DOTA 2 now and put your studies on hold, you won't have the same focus and drive when you come back to finish school. You will probably fail horrendously when you come back. Don't make that mistake. I know school fucking sucks, just suck it up and finish it. It is not worth the trouble and time to do what you plan to do.
On November 30 2012 13:08 Franthier wrote: Seriously man, I think you should just focus on school, finish it and then go pro in DOTA 2. If you start playing DOTA 2 now and put your studies on hold, you won't have the same focus and drive when you come back to finish school. You will probably fail horrendously when you come back. Don't make that mistake. I know school fucking sucks, just suck it up and finish it. It is not worth the trouble and time to do what you plan to do.
Thread is from a year ago, he just won Dreamhack,which is what was with the bump. I don't think he is too worried about his studies at the moment after that success. You should read the thread : D
On November 27 2012 01:53 starchosengirl wrote: To be completely frank this is a terrible idea. It almost sounds like you're brainwashed into thinking that playing professional level dota 2 will make you rich or as successful as the recent no tidehunters .... (yea, don't you need a team ?)
If you REALLY want to do this, I recommend learning an instrument, taking up writing or spending a few weeks alone camping.. to .. you know, think about things. this is a really, really bad idea.
Not sure if people read where he said that he is able to go back to school if his plan to become a pro gamer fails.. and 1-2 years isn't much, i have no idea where people are bringing up the "5 years of lost income" from... =/
Great job, EternalEnVy! You've done well and you've definitely proved many people wrong with your recent success! All the best for future tournaments and hope to find out who your new sponsor is soon. Can't wait to hear the news!
PS. Have fun in the new team house that I heard you're moving into in the near future!
If you have a dream; you should pursue it, right? This argument about lost income and education is something I don't get unless you are very elitist and think only about your professional career as something die hard where there is no room for any failure at all. It is not like he is throwing away his entire professional life doing this albeit he might lose two-three years of his career.
I think the people who argue this is either gonna be envy's parents or some mad jelly nerds (like 5-s) or the entire NADotA forum.
On December 10 2012 14:04 INTENZ-_- wrote: If you have a dream; you should pursue it, right? This argument about lost income and education is something I don't get unless you are very elitist and think only about your professional career as something die hard where there is no room for any failure at all. It is not like he is throwing away his entire professional life doing this albeit he might lose two-three years of his career.
I agree with this. In exchange for those two or three years of "lost income" (how do you lose something you never had in the first place?) he receives a feeling of satisfaction and fulfillment at having put forth an honest effort to play professional DotA. He's gonna have 40-50 years of work in the field of engineering and will make more than enough money to live comfortably and support a family.
Hindsight is 20/20, but EE had high chances to make it as a pro due to his DotA1/HoN background. It seems that people mistook him for an average "bronze league" pubber when in fact he was already playing and scrimming with good players for years. Still, guaranteed success is never 100% in any endeavor, so hats off to you EE!
On December 10 2012 14:04 INTENZ-_- wrote: If you have a dream; you should pursue it, right? This argument about lost income and education is something I don't get unless you are very elitist and think only about your professional career as something die hard where there is no room for any failure at all. It is not like he is throwing away his entire professional life doing this albeit he might lose two-three years of his career.
I think the people who argue this is either gonna be envy's parents or some mad jelly nerds (like 5-s) or the entire NADotA forum.
Might be dangerous even replying to this, but I'm hardly jealous of Envy. I've played at a competitive level, have won some money before (no, not as much as EE, but there weren't many big tournaments when I played). Streaming probably could've made me more if I kept up with it. But at this point, I'm good friends with a good number of the pro players including players on Liquid and LGD.int, and I often give them general advice about random things. If one of my friends like bulba said he wanted to drop out to play fulltime, I'd give him the same exact advice: finish up your degree since Dota isn't forever. I don't know EE well, but I do know the dota scene and I was also in an engineering program, so I know that it's far more profitable to finish up your engineering degree in 99% of circumstances. That said, I want the scene to prosper more than anything, so hopefully NTH does find further success.
On December 10 2012 14:04 INTENZ-_- wrote: If you have a dream; you should pursue it, right? This argument about lost income and education is something I don't get unless you are very elitist and think only about your professional career as something die hard where there is no room for any failure at all. It is not like he is throwing away his entire professional life doing this albeit he might lose two-three years of his career.
I think the people who argue this is either gonna be envy's parents or some mad jelly nerds (like 5-s) or the entire NADotA forum.
Might be dangerous even replying to this, but I'm hardly jealous of Envy. I've played at a competitive level, have won some money before (no, not as much as EE, but there weren't many big tournaments when I played). Streaming probably could've made me more if I kept up with it. But at this point, I'm good friends with a good number of the pro players including players on Liquid and LGD.int, and I often give them general advice about random things. If one of my friends like bulba said he wanted to drop out to play fulltime, I'd give him the same exact advice: finish up your degree since Dota isn't forever. I don't know EE well, but I do know the dota scene and I was also in an engineering program, so I know that it's far more profitable to finish up your engineering degree in 99% of circumstances. That said, I want the scene to prosper more than anything, so hopefully NTH does find further success.
On December 10 2012 14:04 INTENZ-_- wrote: If you have a dream; you should pursue it, right? This argument about lost income and education is something I don't get unless you are very elitist and think only about your professional career as something die hard where there is no room for any failure at all. It is not like he is throwing away his entire professional life doing this albeit he might lose two-three years of his career.
I think the people who argue this is either gonna be envy's parents or some mad jelly nerds (like 5-s) or the entire NADotA forum.
Might be dangerous even replying to this, but I'm hardly jealous of Envy. I've played at a competitive level, have won some money before (no, not as much as EE, but there weren't many big tournaments when I played). Streaming probably could've made me more if I kept up with it. But at this point, I'm good friends with a good number of the pro players including players on Liquid and LGD.int, and I often give them general advice about random things. If one of my friends like bulba said he wanted to drop out to play fulltime, I'd give him the same exact advice: finish up your degree since Dota isn't forever. I don't know EE well, but I do know the dota scene and I was also in an engineering program, so I know that it's far more profitable to finish up your engineering degree in 99% of circumstances. That said, I want the scene to prosper more than anything, so hopefully NTH does find further success.
5 "Real DotA Nigga" -s
Also parents are usually decent people, don't hate on them.
On December 10 2012 14:04 INTENZ-_- wrote: If you have a dream; you should pursue it, right? This argument about lost income and education is something I don't get unless you are very elitist and think only about your professional career as something die hard where there is no room for any failure at all. It is not like he is throwing away his entire professional life doing this albeit he might lose two-three years of his career.
I think the people who argue this is either gonna be envy's parents or some mad jelly nerds (like 5-s) or the entire NADotA forum.
Might be dangerous even replying to this, but I'm hardly jealous of Envy. I've played at a competitive level, have won some money before (no, not as much as EE, but there weren't many big tournaments when I played). Streaming probably could've made me more if I kept up with it. But at this point, I'm good friends with a good number of the pro players including players on Liquid and LGD.int, and I often give them general advice about random things. If one of my friends like bulba said he wanted to drop out to play fulltime, I'd give him the same exact advice: finish up your degree since Dota isn't forever. I don't know EE well, but I do know the dota scene and I was also in an engineering program, so I know that it's far more profitable to finish up your engineering degree in 99% of circumstances. That said, I want the scene to prosper more than anything, so hopefully NTH does find further success.
5 "Real DotA Nigga" -s
Also parents are usually decent people, don't hate on them.
On January 04 2013 05:00 Avs wrote: People are saying NTH lost today because you didn't call the shots.
NTH vs Turtle I assume? If so, I guess yeah, the draft was too cookie cutter and not really good against turtle's aggressive line up. S4 played really really well but it felt like the team was heavily depending on batrider. The Rubik was pretty transparent through out the game.
I always go back to read this thread, when I want a good chuckle and a poetic tear in the corner of my eye.
People meant well, but it is still kind of ironic on a huge gaming site with so many wonderful dreamers with exceptional autodidact skill sets, nonetheless.
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