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On December 05 2012 21:07 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 21:00 Acrofales wrote: @Drazerk: you are not playing your normal style. For one, you are not yelling that you should be killed before lylo, and are actually scared about staying alive, using your protective abilities on yourself rather than someone useful to town. Why is that? I jailed Kita didn't I? gimme some credit. Also I've already said - I need to be alive when Lavos spawns Grey knows me too well. Your self-stated motive for jailing Kita was to stop him from hitting you.
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Maybe my reading skills are not up to par, but where in this thing does it say you have to stay alive until Lavos is spawned?
Also, that sounds way too much like some kind of 3P condition. It's not the same as mine: I have to stay alive until th end of the game. However, it does not sound like something a townie would need.
On November 23 2012 02:46 CaveJohnson wrote:I blame Acro for this post but apparently my posting is too unique it doesn't work anyway and I feel I need to explain a few things to keep Acro / S+B being murdered because they know me too well. I claim Drazerk the Invoker Chef I prepare dishes far and wide and have learnt techniques lost in time. I have 27 1 time use abilities and 1 multiple use ability but I can't use any if I go on a mission. So far I know 2 of my abilities (THEY ARE SO GOOOOOOOD) and can gain the knowledge of 2 more each cycle (although I can technically use any ability without knowing what it does but I'm not that insane). My success modifier is 4 which is too low to justify not using either of my 2 abilities I already have. Also I still dislike Marv / DJ and I think any votes for Syllo is a vote wasted. However there is at least 1 third party in the game judging by my flavour (I can handle them myself before you ask). Now to read what I've missed.
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huh I thought I included it... oh well
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kitaman27
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Lets hear the 16 abilities you currently know Cave :p
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I've had it with your lies. Your night actions don't add up, you blatantly lied in your roleclaim and are tacking shit onto it whenever you feel like. You are pretty much unkillable by night actions despite claims to the contrary (being at 24 HP and shooting Toad... at which point you were NOT afraid of dying before reaching Lavos).
I'll let town take the lead on this one, as I am not sure you're scum, but I have the distinct feeling it would be bad to have you around when we reach Lavos. Whether that is scum or 3P? I don't know. I just know you're bullshitting us and have been bullshitting us all game. It's time to end that. I want to vote for you so badly right now. Townies, lets lynch CJ?
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On December 05 2012 21:07 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 21:00 Acrofales wrote: @Drazerk: you are not playing your normal style. For one, you are not yelling that you should be killed before lylo, and are actually scared about staying alive, using your protective abilities on yourself rather than someone useful to town. Why is that? I jailed Kita didn't I? gimme some credit. Also I've already said - I need to be alive when Lavos spawns Grey knows me too well.
On December 05 2012 21:32 CaveJohnson wrote: Sure lets lynch me
Took all of 25 minutes?
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On December 05 2012 21:34 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 21:07 CaveJohnson wrote:On December 05 2012 21:00 Acrofales wrote: @Drazerk: you are not playing your normal style. For one, you are not yelling that you should be killed before lylo, and are actually scared about staying alive, using your protective abilities on yourself rather than someone useful to town. Why is that? I jailed Kita didn't I? gimme some credit. Also I've already said - I need to be alive when Lavos spawns Grey knows me too well. Took all of 25 minutes?
Who said lynching me would kill me
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This is all very interesting, but can someone, since Hapa didn't feel like, help me find the person who fire bombed a bunch of likely townies on N1. There aren't very many possibilities and it definitely looks like a mafia ability rather than a third party.
Can I get full claims from everyone?
Acro: I did something else this night, unfortunately.
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On December 05 2012 21:35 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 21:34 Acrofales wrote:On December 05 2012 21:07 CaveJohnson wrote:On December 05 2012 21:00 Acrofales wrote: @Drazerk: you are not playing your normal style. For one, you are not yelling that you should be killed before lylo, and are actually scared about staying alive, using your protective abilities on yourself rather than someone useful to town. Why is that? I jailed Kita didn't I? gimme some credit. Also I've already said - I need to be alive when Lavos spawns Grey knows me too well. On December 05 2012 21:32 CaveJohnson wrote: Sure lets lynch me Took all of 25 minutes? Who said lynching me would kill me It killed Toad just fine when he claimed he was unlynchable. I'm not afraid of you being a jester this game.
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On December 05 2012 21:46 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 21:35 CaveJohnson wrote:On December 05 2012 21:34 Acrofales wrote:On December 05 2012 21:07 CaveJohnson wrote:On December 05 2012 21:00 Acrofales wrote: @Drazerk: you are not playing your normal style. For one, you are not yelling that you should be killed before lylo, and are actually scared about staying alive, using your protective abilities on yourself rather than someone useful to town. Why is that? I jailed Kita didn't I? gimme some credit. Also I've already said - I need to be alive when Lavos spawns Grey knows me too well. On December 05 2012 21:32 CaveJohnson wrote: Sure lets lynch me Took all of 25 minutes? Who said lynching me would kill me It killed Toad just fine when he claimed he was unlynchable. I'm not afraid of you being a jester this game. Lets play the fool game once more then
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@Syllo: I'd help, but nobody has claimed an ability even remotely like it. Nearest are Sandro's (single target dot) and mine (3-target mini-nuke).
Zbo/austin is the only one who has so far not claimed any abilities.
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I claimed an ability like it. Didn't use it though.
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On December 05 2012 21:51 Acrofales wrote: @Syllo: I'd help, but nobody has claimed an ability even remotely like it. Nearest are Sandro's (single target dot) and mine (3-target mini-nuke).
Zbo/austin is the only one who has so far not claimed any abilities. Just do process of elimination based on role claims, potentially matching flavor and claimed night 1 actions.
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Quick Note on Phagga:
Getting a "meta"-read on phagga is near-impossible. He's only played as town, and he's played far worse as town than this in some of his games... So, I'm leaning toward a (very slight) town read on phagga now. Scummy play doesn't mean scum, and his "indignant townie" act he's been putting up in our last few exchanges feels genuine... However, that he is so hesitant to actually make his own cases doesn't earn him any townie points... I will be reassessing my read on him next lynch (if there is one).
CaveJohnson Vote:
That leaves CaveJohnson. Literally everyone else I have pegged as town (or third party) right now. He prides himself as being an unknown, but where everyone else works to establish themselves as town he sticks out as the remaining scum... This is by process of elimination, and not entirely based off Cave's play. From everything I've seen and read, I'd expect him to always be a liar and anti-town. The one thing, however that does still stick out in my mind is how insistent he seems to be on survival. Why would survival matter so much to him if he is really town???
Therefore, my vote goes to:
##Vote: CaveJohnson
I look forward to hearing everyone's cases this lynch cycle. With the damage Cave's taken I find it hard to believe we couldn't finish him off with a few vigi shots. However, looking at my list, he's the last viable lynch candidate...
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I've calmed down. My temper sometimes gets the best of me when I feel attacked/manipulated, guess I went a bit overboard yesterday. Sorry for that.
I'll reevaluate some of my reads. Regarding risk, I've written yesterday that from his behaviour early game, i don't think he is scum. I am however worried by his heavy lurking for the last 5 days and his unwillingness to participate. I will look into this as well.
For the time being: ##Vote: Goodkarma
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Does anyone know who risk thinks is mafia? Besides this random hapa comment it's impossible to tell. Risk you should push hapa today since you seem to find his claim suspicious as well.
Also we've flipped 4 mafia so far and we haven't found the role blocker who allegedly blocked risk on n2. There haven't been any unaccounted for role blocks since then either.
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I think he called Kita a scummy player at one point, does that count?
And yeah, the night actions from the scum this game have been all over the place, has literally made my role useless, so bravo guys.
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On December 05 2012 22:48 syllogism wrote:Does anyone know who risk thinks is mafia? Besides this random hapa comment it's impossible to tell. Risk you should push hapa today since you seem to find his claim suspicious as well. Also we've flipped 4 mafia so far and we haven't found the role blocker who allegedly blocked risk on n2. There haven't been any unaccounted for role blocks since then either.
This is a real sticking point to me. I haven't been roleblocked once all game and neither has iamp (except for Prome's seed). They're just letting us run around and heal people? Scum doesn't have a roleblocker. So who role blocked risk? If it was town it would have been claimed by now. Therefore he is lying scum.
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Yeah, there's really no good explanation for that.
Even scum withholding the roleblock and having risk.nuke claiming it is a complete stretch, why would they think that anyone would buy him being roleblocked over just about anyone else.
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