EPTWhen it was announced that she'd be on I assumed that she was brought on for incontrol to bring the damn kellymilkies thing up for a few hours (but, hey, we got the nigger/rape debate instead :/). But she actually was more knowledgeable about recent tournament results (as in she actually watches the games) than the rest of the sotg crew. One of the better guest they've had tbf.
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flodeskum
Iceland1267 Posts
When it was announced that she'd be on I assumed that she was brought on for incontrol to bring the damn kellymilkies thing up for a few hours (but, hey, we got the nigger/rape debate instead :/). But she actually was more knowledgeable about recent tournament results (as in she actually watches the games) than the rest of the sotg crew. One of the better guest they've had tbf. | ||
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Rasun
United States787 Posts
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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Warpath
Canada1242 Posts
On June 02 2011 01:01 flodeskum wrote: On a more positive note, I really liked leah on the show. When it was announced that she'd be on I assumed that she was brought on for incontrol to bring the damn kellymilkies thing up for a few hours (but, hey, we got the nigger/rape debate instead :/). But she actually was more knowledgeable about recent tournament results (as in she actually watches the games) than the rest of the sotg crew. One of the better guest they've had tbf. haha agreed. All the times someone had said 'anyone watch X game' and theres just silence... Impressed by her knowledge, might actually pay attention to some of the G4 articles now :D | ||
NonY
8751 Posts
On June 01 2011 17:36 Defacer wrote: I wholeheartedly agree with InControl and Tyler's stance on language. I think what both InControl and Tyler were getting at -- while trying to be diplomatic as possible -- is that there is a difference between "being yourself" and "doing whatever you want/feel". Yes. Restraint is part of who I am. Trying to please everyone is part of who I am. I don't think etiquette is always meaningless. And when I'm indifferent to something but someone else is negatively affected by it, then I'll try to change it. I'd have to strongly believe in something to refuse to change it and welcome separation from people who oppose it. Offensive words are not something I strongly believe in, especially when they're replaceable. And even when no replacement is immediately possible, then we can use the wondrous power of language to make some new words up free of stigma and offensiveness and with more meaning than we ever could have achieved using common words. Holy Check! I also have a strong chill and let chill philosophy. I think the phenomenon of Destiny's stream is awesome and I'm happy that he's working hard and dedicating himself to it. My only advice for him would be to stay true to himself and to make the content he wants to make but I wouldn't tell him that because he's already doing it. edit: I should clarify that it would be possible for a streamer to cross a line and I'd actively campaign for their demise, though I'm sure it'd be taken care of by others long before I got involved. Destiny's content hasn't crossed that line for me and I don't think he'd ever cross that line except perhaps by mistake, so I'm comfortable with him doing whatever he wants to do. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
FXO has literally 0 team accomplishments except losing to EG in ESEA and taking I think 4th. Where the HELL do people get it in their mind that they are a better team? It absolutely cannot be through results. Arbitrary considerations with players? Qxc hasn't been his former self since MLG of last year when he still placed lower than several EG players. Moonan? No accomplishments. Slog? Filthy? Tgun or w/e... all lower level than Machine, Strifecro and Lz. Sheth is great. But still has fewer / less accomplishments than I do in big tourneys (MLG). Then we compare super-stars.. IdrA vs Moonglade. Need I say more? And all this without mentioning Axslav who won MVP for crota invitational going undefeated against players like Jinro and the other top players from top teams. I hate that I had to make this post cause there is no way to come off good but the stickler in me cannot stand people being dumb. FUCK and I somehow forgot Demuslim.. really how the hell did you guys ever compare? | ||
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
On June 02 2011 01:11 iNcontroL wrote: I have no idea how this happens. You guys would have to have not followed the team scene at all... EG took 3rd in GCPL, 1st in Crota invitational, 2nd in ESEA and various top finishes for the SPL or w/e and the other clan league that all the top teams participated in. FXO has literally 0 team accomplishments except losing to EG in ESEA and taking I think 4th. Where the HELL do people get it in their mind that they are a better team? It absolutely cannot be through results. Arbitrary considerations with players? Qxc hasn't been his former self since MLG of last year when he still placed lower than several EG players. Moonan? No accomplishments. Slog? Filthy? Tgun or w/e... all lower level than Machine, Strifecro and Lz. Sheth is great. But still has fewer / less accomplishments than I do in big tourneys (MLG). Then we compare super-stars.. IdrA vs Moonglade. Need I say more? And all this without mentioning Axslav who won MVP for crota invitational going undefeated against players like Jinro and the other top players from top teams. I hate that I had to make this post cause there is no way to come off good but the stickler in me cannot stand people being dumb. FUCK and I somehow forgot Demuslim.. really how the hell did you guys ever compare? I don't mean to offend you, but neither you nor Sheth have any accomplishments in major tournaments. Unless, of course, you consider a fourth place finish an accomplishment. Which in itself is telling. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I will comfort myself by knowing you aren't anywhere near a progamer and literally have 0 grasp of what it takes to place that high in anything competitive. So I know without a shadow of doubt that you are 100% a completely irrelevant perspective on the matter. | ||
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GuiMontag
Australia79 Posts
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Harrow
United States245 Posts
On June 02 2011 01:11 iNcontroL wrote: I have no idea how this happens. You guys would have to have not followed the team scene at all... EG took 3rd in GCPL, 1st in Crota invitational, 2nd in ESEA and various top finishes for the SPL or w/e and the other clan league that all the top teams participated in. FXO has literally 0 team accomplishments except losing to EG in ESEA and taking I think 4th. Where the HELL do people get it in their mind that they are a better team? It absolutely cannot be through results. Arbitrary considerations with players? Qxc hasn't been his former self since MLG of last year when he still placed lower than several EG players. Moonan? No accomplishments. Slog? Filthy? Tgun or w/e... all lower level than Machine, Strifecro and Lz. Sheth is great. But still has fewer / less accomplishments than I do in big tourneys (MLG). Then we compare super-stars.. IdrA vs Moonglade. Need I say more? And all this without mentioning Axslav who won MVP for crota invitational going undefeated against players like Jinro and the other top players from top teams. I hate that I had to make this post cause there is no way to come off good but the stickler in me cannot stand people being dumb. FUCK and I somehow forgot Demuslim.. really how the hell did you guys ever compare? QXC knows kung fu. AND parkour. Did you take those into account AT ALL? AT ALL?!? EDIT: On June 02 2011 01:17 GuiMontag wrote: would any of those wins be possible without Idra? You mean would any of those EG team wins have been possible without EG.Idra? Gee, I dunno. | ||
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maJes
United Kingdom186 Posts
On June 02 2011 01:17 GuiMontag wrote: would any of those wins be possible without Idra? Off topic I'm sure they would be, Axslav is a bit of a beast. Caught the mp3 today, shame about the dropping internet and etc around that but good show, hope it was a fun one for you Geoff. | ||
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Everhate
United States640 Posts
On June 02 2011 01:15 -_- wrote: I don't mean to offend you, but neither you nor Sheth have any accomplishments in major tournaments. Unless, of course, you consider a fourth place finish an accomplishment. Which in itself is telling. To play devil's advocate, finishing 4th behind Naniwa, Kiwikaki, and Select is still a position a huge number of players would take, and the field itself was reasonably strong (He may have had the 'easy' draw, but still beat a few good players along the way). Sheth, imo, is a player on the rise. While he may not be at the top of the scene in his limited LANs so far (by which I mean the whole...what...handful?), he has the potential to be near the top of the NA scene in the next few months. Not trying to make a conclusive argument one way or the other, just things to consider, with some random rampant speculation that's required when posting anything on the internetz :p | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On June 02 2011 01:15 -_- wrote: They have more accomplishments than Slog and Moonan, thus EG is again better than FXO? Not sure what you're getting at, if not Incontrol or Sheth they have IdrA (who is worth a bloody team on his own) and Machine (who shows strong results pretty much everywhere he goes).I don't mean to offend you, but neither you nor Sheth have any accomplishments in major tournaments. Unless, of course, you consider a fourth place finish an accomplishment. Which in itself is telling. I don't have the numbers in front of me but I'm confident in saying EG has an overall stronger tournament appearance than FXO. Not to make FXO seem like a bad team, they just don't have a whole lot of results at the moment. I'm expecting great things from them though, even if it takes a few months or even a year. | ||
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
On June 02 2011 01:11 iNcontroL wrote: I have no idea how this happens. You guys would have to have not followed the team scene at all... EG took 3rd in GCPL, 1st in Crota invitational, 2nd in ESEA and various top finishes for the SPL or w/e and the other clan league that all the top teams participated in. FXO has literally 0 team accomplishments except losing to EG in ESEA and taking I think 4th. Where the HELL do people get it in their mind that they are a better team? It absolutely cannot be through results. Arbitrary considerations with players? Qxc hasn't been his former self since MLG of last year when he still placed lower than several EG players. Moonan? No accomplishments. Slog? Filthy? Tgun or w/e... all lower level than Machine, Strifecro and Lz. Sheth is great. But still has fewer / less accomplishments than I do in big tourneys (MLG). Then we compare super-stars.. IdrA vs Moonglade. Need I say more? And all this without mentioning Axslav who won MVP for crota invitational going undefeated against players like Jinro and the other top players from top teams. I hate that I had to make this post cause there is no way to come off good but the stickler in me cannot stand people being dumb. FUCK and I somehow forgot Demuslim.. really how the hell did you guys ever compare? I don't get it either. But people will always be blinded by the teams they like \ love. Its the way all competition between supporters exist. EG is in a different league than FXO, I'm actually having problems seing how people can even compare them. | ||
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Juanald
United States354 Posts
On June 02 2011 01:11 iNcontroL wrote: I have no idea how this happens. You guys would have to have not followed the team scene at all... EG took 3rd in GCPL, 1st in Crota invitational, 2nd in ESEA and various top finishes for the SPL or w/e and the other clan league that all the top teams participated in. FXO has literally 0 team accomplishments except losing to EG in ESEA and taking I think 4th. Where the HELL do people get it in their mind that they are a better team? It absolutely cannot be through results. Arbitrary considerations with players? Qxc hasn't been his former self since MLG of last year when he still placed lower than several EG players. Moonan? No accomplishments. Slog? Filthy? Tgun or w/e... all lower level than Machine, Strifecro and Lz. Sheth is great. But still has fewer / less accomplishments than I do in big tourneys (MLG). Then we compare super-stars.. IdrA vs Moonglade. Need I say more? And all this without mentioning Axslav who won MVP for crota invitational going undefeated against players like Jinro and the other top players from top teams. I hate that I had to make this post cause there is no way to come off good but the stickler in me cannot stand people being dumb. FUCK and I somehow forgot Demuslim.. really how the hell did you guys ever compare? i agree with almost everything u said but its ridiculous for you to asume idra is better than moonglade. moOnglade has been #1 on SEA for some time now and TBH the SEA server is much harder then the US server. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/693604/1/EGIdrA/ladder/41471#current-rank http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/7353/1/mOOnGLaDe/ladder/4943#current-rank | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On June 02 2011 01:17 GuiMontag wrote: would any of those wins be possible without Idra? We did GCPL largely without him. And when he did play he mostly lost cause of Kor to NA latency. We also did GCPL without Demuslim. BUT ALSO How the fuck does that function in this conversation? We do have IdrA. Why do I need to prove EG is better than FXO without IdrA? My simple statement was "EG would do better" and some people had the audacity to claim this was wrong or baseless... when it was the opposite. Results, players, player results.. all favor EG. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On June 02 2011 00:13 r_con wrote: Fuck you nigger I am black, so its ok to use an "lightning" word Naw, I'm not really black, I'm so white that CRT radiation appears to be coming from my skin. The concept that words are restricted based on race is stupid and is in fact racist. If any person says i cant say something because of the color of my skin that is racist. I don't give a fuck if a person calls me a cracker, and that they authentically think i am lesser of a human being because I'm white. I will not be offended by being called a cracker, i will not care, because i know its not true. The truth of the matter is that black people shouldn't care either, because they should know its not true. Hell, i call my gay friends flaming faggots jokingly because they don't take themselves seriously, and i actually asked if it offended them, and they don't care because i'm actually comfortable with them being gay, and I'm not doing it in a way to hurt them or degrade them for being gay. Calling someone a nigger does not instantly degrade them, and if you think it does then society still has a long way to go, its the intent of the speaker that makes a word like nigger bad, good, or neutral. I would say my one pet peeve of young, Western White culture is they have a massive sense of entitlement, and there is a subset that believes that nothing should be sacred. It's all me, me, me. It's the reason why American Idol and Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire can exist and succeed. They're core audience want to believe if you win a silly 2-month competition you not only can be famous, you deserve it. The reason why this is relevant? I just find it amusing that there have been pages and pages of little snotty brats and nimrods trying desperately to intellectualize and justify the use of the words rape, nigger, and faggot, because of this sense of entitlement. As if it's some kind of right. Because if they can't say caca or poo-poo or pee-pee words, they can't be true to themselves. Go ahead, guys. Use whatever words you want. It just makes you look like a jackass. | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On June 02 2011 01:20 Juanald wrote: i agree with almost everything u said but its ridiculous for you to asume idra is better than moonglade. moOnglade has been #1 on SEA for some time now and TBH the SEA server is much harder then the US server. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/693604/1/EGIdrA/ladder/41471#current-rank http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/7353/1/mOOnGLaDe/ladder/4943#current-rank What the fuck? You can't be serious. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On June 02 2011 01:20 Juanald wrote: i agree with almost everything u said but its ridiculous for you to asume idra is better than moonglade. moOnglade has been #1 on SEA for some time now and TBH the SEA server is much harder then the US server. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/693604/1/EGIdrA/ladder/41471#current-rank http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/7353/1/mOOnGLaDe/ladder/4943#current-rank .... People, do you see what I was posting in response to? How the hell do I get tricked.. | ||
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NewtofDoom
United States29 Posts
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