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trikshun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States437 Posts
July 22 2011 01:04 GMT
#5741
The only reason why people are siding with Milkis is because they don't understand Business or anything about the international market.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
July 22 2011 01:04 GMT
#5742
On July 22 2011 10:04 NexUmbra wrote:
Why should E-Sports be different to every single thing in the world ever regarding a contract.

What contract? Puma didn't have one.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
July 22 2011 01:04 GMT
#5743
On July 22 2011 10:03 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 10:00 nam nam wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:58 VillageBC wrote:
milki's can't just hide behind the 'i'm just translating' label while at the same time slanting that translation with his bias. I don't care, I think EG is right.. Milki's is overly concerned with Korean culture and TL is ruining e-sports.


If the translations is accurate he can say whatever he likes about it. You know like any of us.

But to be fair, when Milkis then continues on to say things like "if you don't understand why this is such a big deal, then you just don't understand Korean culture" in a pretty condescending manner. It's obvious that Milkis was very biased in how he carried out the whole thing.


Yup -_- and it's really not his place to be this middleman imho. These are businesses and it's not for shits and giggles.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
July 22 2011 01:04 GMT
#5744
My god, what is up with EG constantly upsetting the community?
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 01:05:04
July 22 2011 01:04 GMT
#5745
Ok here we go. Thanks djwheat for the final verdict.

EG: Not guilty.
LeoLeo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden456 Posts
July 22 2011 01:04 GMT
#5746
I think people need to realize that was is the best for esports isnt necessarily the best for a specific player. For example MC, he travels to a shit ton of tournaments and he wins a lot of them and we get to see awesome games and esports gets better etc etc. On the other hand, he loses practice and he even stated quite recently that he wants to practice more because he felt that he wasnt playing as good as he could.

I think that letting the indivudal player evolve is the most important part because it will bring good games and by the great games let esports develop by itself. If we were to force esports to grow we could actually be hurting it... What would be optimal for the scene would be if the major spotlight (where all the tournaments happen and where we see games) was easily accessable for the top competition easily. Kind of how it is in BW, so I think Milkies was a making a good point, but what that "utopia" lacks is foreign attention.

So honestly I dont how we should solve this, I just hope we can organize it in a way that allows players to evolve as efficently as possible...


Cheers~
Bacon, Orangina and chilling
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5609 Posts
July 22 2011 01:04 GMT
#5747
EG could and can post something on TL, on twitter, on their website, what does this have to do with Milkis? I can't wait to read EG's first release, saying that they picked up Puma, and a second one regretting all this collateral damage.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Grimsong
Profile Joined August 2010
United States252 Posts
July 22 2011 01:04 GMT
#5748
DJ Wheat entirely on point.

You wonder why he was sided with AG? Because it seems pretty right.

And obviously EG could have said more or done something more extensive.
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
July 22 2011 01:04 GMT
#5749
On July 22 2011 10:04 trikshun wrote:
The only reason why people are siding with Milkis is because they don't understand Business or anything about the international market.


Or the fact it was an unfair debate and there was uncalled for personal attacks/passive aggression and needless spin.
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
July 22 2011 01:05 GMT
#5750
Well that felt like a Nuremberg Rally. Hopefully EG players do horribly at Anaheim.
Twoinches
Profile Joined April 2010
United States131 Posts
July 22 2011 01:05 GMT
#5751
this whole issue is Just depressing that so many people are against players getting picked up and supported.
Paris hilton Is my Lord and Savior
Graham
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1259 Posts
July 22 2011 01:05 GMT
#5752
On July 22 2011 10:04 Senx wrote:
My god, what is up with EG constantly upsetting the community?

To be fair, it feels like every other day something upsets the community. Be-it players, teams, tournaments, etc. ><
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
July 22 2011 01:05 GMT
#5753
On July 22 2011 10:03 VillageBC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 10:02 elmizzt wrote:
On July 22 2011 10:00 Mioraka wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:58 VillageBC wrote:
milki's can't just hide behind the 'i'm just translating' label while at the same time slanting that translation with his bias. I don't care, I think EG is right.. Milki's is overly concerned with Korean culture and TL is ruining e-sports.


LOL

I don't even know what to say.

Here is your news ladies and gentlemen, TEAMLIQUID IS RUINING ESPORTS.

HAHAHAHAHAH so good.


What, you guys need a sarcasm tag to understand it?
Nice try.
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
July 22 2011 01:05 GMT
#5754
On July 22 2011 10:04 trikshun wrote:
The only reason why people are siding with Milkis is because they don't understand Business or anything about the international market.

Dont say stuff like that without putting any argumentation behind it.

I can say "Everyone who sides with EG are fucking retarded!" but I dont, cus that´s stupid to say.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
July 22 2011 01:05 GMT
#5755
You know, maybe something like half of this thread is now being generated by people who didnt listen to the story at all. -.- It really feels like telephone now.

I didn't hear the first half, so I can't judge, but i think by any measure, calling DJWheat a "shithead" [saw it like two pages ago] is out of line.

You can't be mad at Alex because he wants his organization to succeed; and he probably doesn't like the fact that Milkis was reporting negatively about his organization. On the other hand, Milkis is a translator, but still a broadcaster of news. He has every right to deliver every story. However, both should realize that they are going to get shit for what they do. Businesses take shit, news sources get shit- all people should remember is that tons of people feel safe attacking behind the anonymity of a username.

DJWheat is getting serious now- and I agree. The crux of the entire debate is how bad it was to go around TSL the team to go for Puma.

Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
July 22 2011 01:06 GMT
#5756
On July 22 2011 10:04 Enervate wrote:
Ok here we go. Thanks djwheat for the biased verdict.

EG: Not guilty.


Change it for you
Dear Sixsmith...
Nuublet
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden130 Posts
July 22 2011 01:06 GMT
#5757
Kind of weird to bring on a translator as the counter to the ceo of EG. He's just a fucking translator!?!
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 01:06:23
July 22 2011 01:06 GMT
#5758
On July 22 2011 10:00 LuckstYle wrote:
AG: yo korea is great, but its good to get a cheap and good player, we dont care if that damages TSL

wtf?


It might damage TSl but it is fucking awesome for PUMA.

He deserves to/ earn a decent salary and he wasnt getting that from TSL.
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
cskalias.pbe
Profile Joined April 2010
United States293 Posts
July 22 2011 01:06 GMT
#5759
So many people here will hang on ONE word or ONE phrase and not understand the general idea the person is talking about, and will rant for 250 pages about how "right" they are.

Who cares if they cut milkis off because he doesn't have a fucking argument. If he's basic argument is that EG was disrespectiful, then FINE, just say that and the topic is done. If his argument is that this is bad for the scene and for the players, then I have NO idea when or how he made that point. His argument is : feel sad for Coach Lee because.... I mean you can't do this because this is always how we've done this.

Whereas AG is trying to grow the entire esport scene as a whole and not make in a "korean" scene. He is afraid that all the korean organizations will band together and make it even more difficult for foreign teams to get involved and trade players, which is totally understandable given how KESPA currently operates.

I love Milkis, and his translations. But as an SC2 fan and teamliquid member, I just don't know why you are all upset and taking his side. What IS his side? I love SC2 more than coach lee. I love sc2 more than being 100% proper in every conceivable player negotiation.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 22 2011 01:06 GMT
#5760
On July 22 2011 10:05 Graham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 10:04 Senx wrote:
My god, what is up with EG constantly upsetting the community?

To be fair, it feels like every other day something upsets the community. Be-it players, teams, tournaments, etc. ><


'This community is pretty bad these days.

At least their opinions don't matter in the grand scheme of things and they will still put their money into tourneys no matter how hard they rage in threads.

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