• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:44
CEST 01:44
KST 08:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)34Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!5Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back12BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) [D] Wireframe Casting Removed Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format Is the larve respawn broken?
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
Etiquete rules in Asl? BW General Discussion Recent recommended BW games Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map)
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
The Experiences We Want and …
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8234 users

Puma leaves TSL for EG - Page 290

Forum Index > SC2 General
7189 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 288 289 290 291 292 360 Next
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
July 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#5781
If a famous news anchor does a story, then later comments on the story with a biased view, then they've essentially done some shitty journalism. Milkis, your job is to translate, and it's fine for you to join the discussion, but you're just as bad/guilty as all of the idiots who were assuming this or that in this situation. You're either just a translator with no bias, or you're translating an article (not a translator) to make a comment on. You're not both. If you post an article, don't make biased comments and/or assumptions.
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
Tiazi
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands761 Posts
July 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#5782
I really like listening to DJWheat, AG and Milkis.

I also appreciate reading, most, comments on TL.net.

You all seem to be intelligent people.

Its hard to form my own opinion about this subject. I think I'm gonna sleep a night over it.

And with that said. I feel like that would work for some more people regarding this subject
"A brilliant yet deluded man once said, 'Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos.' Gumiho is that agent of chaos." -monk
Lexxes
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden144 Posts
July 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#5783
Dj Wheat on Fire!
If you dont do it, someone else will
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#5784
lol ppl here are so naturally competitive here everything needs to have a clear winner and loser. Did AG win? Did Milkis win? WHO WON DAMNIT!!
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5785
On July 22 2011 10:08 Twoinches wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 10:07 Mohdoo wrote:
DJWheat confirming the massive culture gap >_<

"Its all about the individual, not the team who made him who he is!"


tsl made him, Eg will take him to new places.

For a few months until his skill drops.
VillageBC
Profile Joined January 2011
322 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5786
On July 22 2011 10:06 DigitalisDestructi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 10:03 VillageBC wrote:
On July 22 2011 10:02 elmizzt wrote:
On July 22 2011 10:00 Mioraka wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:58 VillageBC wrote:
milki's can't just hide behind the 'i'm just translating' label while at the same time slanting that translation with his bias. I don't care, I think EG is right.. Milki's is overly concerned with Korean culture and TL is ruining e-sports.


LOL

I don't even know what to say.

Here is your news ladies and gentlemen, TEAMLIQUID IS RUINING ESPORTS.

HAHAHAHAHAH so good.


What, you guys need a sarcasm tag to understand it?

I don't think you can backtrack from that one, bud. Take it in stride.


Backtrack, fuck no. You're also ruining e-sports.
ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5787
On July 22 2011 10:08 travis wrote:
lol ppl here are so naturally competitive here everything needs to have a clear winner and loser. Did AG win? Did Milkis win? WHO WON DAMNIT!!


It's cuz of too much time spent on ICCUP -_-
TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5788
Are you kidding me? Let's degrade this thread into "ruining esports" and "bias so I'm not changing my stubborn opinion".

Try for a second to think about the points they are making instead of how they act or their personalities or how arrogant you perceive they are, and MAYBE a rational thought will develop.
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5789
On July 22 2011 10:06 cskalias.pbe wrote:
So many people here will hang on ONE word or ONE phrase and not understand the general idea the person is talking about, and will rant for 250 pages about how "right" they are.

Who cares if they cut milkis off because he doesn't have a fucking argument. If he's basic argument is that EG was disrespectiful, then FINE, just say that and the topic is done. If his argument is that this is bad for the scene and for the players, then I have NO idea when or how he made that point. His argument is : feel sad for Coach Lee because.... I mean you can't do this because this is always how we've done this.

Whereas AG is trying to grow the entire esport scene as a whole and not make in a "korean" scene. He is afraid that all the korean organizations will band together and make it even more difficult for foreign teams to get involved and trade players, which is totally understandable given how KESPA currently operates.

I love Milkis, and his translations. But as an SC2 fan and teamliquid member, I just don't know why you are all upset and taking his side. What IS his side? I love SC2 more than coach lee. I love sc2 more than being 100% proper in every conceivable player negotiation.



Yes, who cares if the HOST OF THE SHOW cuts one of the guest off, when the other guest is constantly insulting and accusing him.

WHENEVER he tries to defend himself by making a point, the HOST, cuts himself.

WHENEVER the other guest tries to accuse him of something, the HOST, lets him go on for 5minutes.

Of course he doesn't have an arguement, I'd be surprised that he could have one in half sentences.
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 01:10:34
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5790
you do realize DJwheat is pretty "in bed" with EG in terms of sponsors/events/casting jobs. He wasn't there as a unbiased ref/moderator. Not saying its a bad thing just that, it was a very EG sided show despite AG trying to self destruct at the end by attacking Milkis.
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5791
On July 22 2011 10:08 travis wrote:
lol ppl here are so naturally competitive here everything needs to have a clear winner and loser. Did AG win? Did Milkis win? WHO WON DAMNIT!!


i think who supports who is more valid.
Dear Sixsmith...
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5792
On July 22 2011 10:08 travis wrote:
lol ppl here are so naturally competitive here everything needs to have a clear winner and loser. Did AG win? Did Milkis win? WHO WON DAMNIT!!

ESPORTS WON
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
Grimsong
Profile Joined August 2010
United States252 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5793
On July 22 2011 10:08 cskalias.pbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 10:05 Slakter wrote:
On July 22 2011 10:04 trikshun wrote:
The only reason why people are siding with Milkis is because they don't understand Business or anything about the international market.

Dont say stuff like that without putting any argumentation behind it.

I can say "Everyone who sides with EG are fucking retarded!" but I dont, cus that´s stupid to say.


If you were watching SOTG, then you got the argument behind it. If you knew something about business or the international market, you wouldn't have needed to watch SOTG to know AG is right.


It's hillarious how everyone is calling bias when there's blatant bias the other way around here in this thread like crazy, isn't it?
InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5794
On July 22 2011 10:08 alexanderzero wrote:
I don't think this is EG's fault and entirely PuMa's fault. He is the one who turned his back on his team at the drop of a hat. When is EG supposed to get access to Korean players except when they're visiting the United States?


This is 100% TSL's fault for not paying a high value asset sufficiently. The real story is that at least franchise players are getting enough salary to justify moves like this, and that is a great thing.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5795
On July 22 2011 10:08 travis wrote:
lol ppl here are so naturally competitive here everything needs to have a clear winner and loser. Did AG win? Did Milkis win? WHO WON DAMNIT!!


puma won, assuming he signs that contract
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5796
On July 22 2011 10:07 Mohdoo wrote:
DJWheat confirming the massive culture gap >_<

"Its all about the individual, not the team who made him who he is!"

If the gap was that big, Puma wouldn't have signed in the first place.

Love how everyone rants about some huge cultural gap when Puma himself made the "Western" choice.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5797
On July 22 2011 10:08 Twoinches wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 10:07 Mohdoo wrote:
DJWheat confirming the massive culture gap >_<

"Its all about the individual, not the team who made him who he is!"


tsl made him, Eg will take him to new places.


You mean like the EG training house? To practice against a bunch of players completely out of his league, and ladder on a server not even worth his time? Yeah, sounds like a great way to improve. Sure he gets plane tickets, but he's gonna be relying on his salary without the ability to actually win tournaments. Training in the USA is going to kill his skill.
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5798
On July 22 2011 10:08 travis wrote:
lol ppl here are so naturally competitive here everything needs to have a clear winner and loser. Did AG win? Did Milkis win? WHO WON DAMNIT!!


Yeah, those polls are really doing my head in.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5799
On July 22 2011 10:04 nekuodah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 10:04 trikshun wrote:
The only reason why people are siding with Milkis is because they don't understand Business or anything about the international market.


Or the fact it was an unfair debate and there was uncalled for personal attacks/passive aggression and needless spin.

Or the fact that people are more interested in the way things are done, than the boring cold buisness things.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
July 22 2011 01:10 GMT
#5800
On July 22 2011 10:08 Longshank wrote:
I'm usually a fan of Wheat but this episode was disgusting, I never thought I'd see him kiss someones butt like he did today.

"Yeah Alex, you know I agree with you but this is a topic for another time"

WTF wheat : /


Sums up my thoughts as well.

I'm out of this thread until the next random drama pops up.
Prev 1 288 289 290 291 292 360 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
23:00
FSL playoffsTeamLeague STvsASH
Freeedom28
Liquipedia
The PiG Daily
22:00
Best Games of SC
ByuN vs Clem
MaxPax vs TBD
Serral vs ByuN
GgMaChine vs Bunny
PiGStarcraft536
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft536
ViBE214
Vindicta 29
SpeCial 0
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm126
Counter-Strike
summit1g2591
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox310
Mew2King149
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr70
Other Games
gofns10164
tarik_tv5301
shahzam1179
XaKoH 163
ToD146
PPMD29
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1654
BasetradeTV170
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 41
• RyuSc2 25
• davetesta23
• Response 3
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21853
Other Games
• Shiphtur776
• tFFMrPink 9
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
16m
RSL Revival
9h 16m
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
10h 16m
Epic.LAN
13h 16m
IPSL
16h 16m
Dragon vs Hawk
RSL Revival
1d 9h
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 10h
OSC
1d 13h
IPSL
1d 16h
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-13
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Escore Tournament S3: W3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.