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hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
July 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#5781
If a famous news anchor does a story, then later comments on the story with a biased view, then they've essentially done some shitty journalism. Milkis, your job is to translate, and it's fine for you to join the discussion, but you're just as bad/guilty as all of the idiots who were assuming this or that in this situation. You're either just a translator with no bias, or you're translating an article (not a translator) to make a comment on. You're not both. If you post an article, don't make biased comments and/or assumptions.
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
Tiazi
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands761 Posts
July 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#5782
I really like listening to DJWheat, AG and Milkis.

I also appreciate reading, most, comments on TL.net.

You all seem to be intelligent people.

Its hard to form my own opinion about this subject. I think I'm gonna sleep a night over it.

And with that said. I feel like that would work for some more people regarding this subject
"A brilliant yet deluded man once said, 'Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos.' Gumiho is that agent of chaos." -monk
Lexxes
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden144 Posts
July 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#5783
Dj Wheat on Fire!
If you dont do it, someone else will
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#5784
lol ppl here are so naturally competitive here everything needs to have a clear winner and loser. Did AG win? Did Milkis win? WHO WON DAMNIT!!
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5785
On July 22 2011 10:08 Twoinches wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 10:07 Mohdoo wrote:
DJWheat confirming the massive culture gap >_<

"Its all about the individual, not the team who made him who he is!"


tsl made him, Eg will take him to new places.

For a few months until his skill drops.
VillageBC
Profile Joined January 2011
322 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5786
On July 22 2011 10:06 DigitalisDestructi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 10:03 VillageBC wrote:
On July 22 2011 10:02 elmizzt wrote:
On July 22 2011 10:00 Mioraka wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:58 VillageBC wrote:
milki's can't just hide behind the 'i'm just translating' label while at the same time slanting that translation with his bias. I don't care, I think EG is right.. Milki's is overly concerned with Korean culture and TL is ruining e-sports.


LOL

I don't even know what to say.

Here is your news ladies and gentlemen, TEAMLIQUID IS RUINING ESPORTS.

HAHAHAHAHAH so good.


What, you guys need a sarcasm tag to understand it?

I don't think you can backtrack from that one, bud. Take it in stride.


Backtrack, fuck no. You're also ruining e-sports.
ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5787
On July 22 2011 10:08 travis wrote:
lol ppl here are so naturally competitive here everything needs to have a clear winner and loser. Did AG win? Did Milkis win? WHO WON DAMNIT!!


It's cuz of too much time spent on ICCUP -_-
TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5788
Are you kidding me? Let's degrade this thread into "ruining esports" and "bias so I'm not changing my stubborn opinion".

Try for a second to think about the points they are making instead of how they act or their personalities or how arrogant you perceive they are, and MAYBE a rational thought will develop.
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5789
On July 22 2011 10:06 cskalias.pbe wrote:
So many people here will hang on ONE word or ONE phrase and not understand the general idea the person is talking about, and will rant for 250 pages about how "right" they are.

Who cares if they cut milkis off because he doesn't have a fucking argument. If he's basic argument is that EG was disrespectiful, then FINE, just say that and the topic is done. If his argument is that this is bad for the scene and for the players, then I have NO idea when or how he made that point. His argument is : feel sad for Coach Lee because.... I mean you can't do this because this is always how we've done this.

Whereas AG is trying to grow the entire esport scene as a whole and not make in a "korean" scene. He is afraid that all the korean organizations will band together and make it even more difficult for foreign teams to get involved and trade players, which is totally understandable given how KESPA currently operates.

I love Milkis, and his translations. But as an SC2 fan and teamliquid member, I just don't know why you are all upset and taking his side. What IS his side? I love SC2 more than coach lee. I love sc2 more than being 100% proper in every conceivable player negotiation.



Yes, who cares if the HOST OF THE SHOW cuts one of the guest off, when the other guest is constantly insulting and accusing him.

WHENEVER he tries to defend himself by making a point, the HOST, cuts himself.

WHENEVER the other guest tries to accuse him of something, the HOST, lets him go on for 5minutes.

Of course he doesn't have an arguement, I'd be surprised that he could have one in half sentences.
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 01:10:34
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5790
you do realize DJwheat is pretty "in bed" with EG in terms of sponsors/events/casting jobs. He wasn't there as a unbiased ref/moderator. Not saying its a bad thing just that, it was a very EG sided show despite AG trying to self destruct at the end by attacking Milkis.
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5791
On July 22 2011 10:08 travis wrote:
lol ppl here are so naturally competitive here everything needs to have a clear winner and loser. Did AG win? Did Milkis win? WHO WON DAMNIT!!


i think who supports who is more valid.
Dear Sixsmith...
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5792
On July 22 2011 10:08 travis wrote:
lol ppl here are so naturally competitive here everything needs to have a clear winner and loser. Did AG win? Did Milkis win? WHO WON DAMNIT!!

ESPORTS WON
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
Grimsong
Profile Joined August 2010
United States252 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5793
On July 22 2011 10:08 cskalias.pbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 10:05 Slakter wrote:
On July 22 2011 10:04 trikshun wrote:
The only reason why people are siding with Milkis is because they don't understand Business or anything about the international market.

Dont say stuff like that without putting any argumentation behind it.

I can say "Everyone who sides with EG are fucking retarded!" but I dont, cus that´s stupid to say.


If you were watching SOTG, then you got the argument behind it. If you knew something about business or the international market, you wouldn't have needed to watch SOTG to know AG is right.


It's hillarious how everyone is calling bias when there's blatant bias the other way around here in this thread like crazy, isn't it?
InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5794
On July 22 2011 10:08 alexanderzero wrote:
I don't think this is EG's fault and entirely PuMa's fault. He is the one who turned his back on his team at the drop of a hat. When is EG supposed to get access to Korean players except when they're visiting the United States?


This is 100% TSL's fault for not paying a high value asset sufficiently. The real story is that at least franchise players are getting enough salary to justify moves like this, and that is a great thing.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5795
On July 22 2011 10:08 travis wrote:
lol ppl here are so naturally competitive here everything needs to have a clear winner and loser. Did AG win? Did Milkis win? WHO WON DAMNIT!!


puma won, assuming he signs that contract
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5796
On July 22 2011 10:07 Mohdoo wrote:
DJWheat confirming the massive culture gap >_<

"Its all about the individual, not the team who made him who he is!"

If the gap was that big, Puma wouldn't have signed in the first place.

Love how everyone rants about some huge cultural gap when Puma himself made the "Western" choice.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5797
On July 22 2011 10:08 Twoinches wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 10:07 Mohdoo wrote:
DJWheat confirming the massive culture gap >_<

"Its all about the individual, not the team who made him who he is!"


tsl made him, Eg will take him to new places.


You mean like the EG training house? To practice against a bunch of players completely out of his league, and ladder on a server not even worth his time? Yeah, sounds like a great way to improve. Sure he gets plane tickets, but he's gonna be relying on his salary without the ability to actually win tournaments. Training in the USA is going to kill his skill.
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5798
On July 22 2011 10:08 travis wrote:
lol ppl here are so naturally competitive here everything needs to have a clear winner and loser. Did AG win? Did Milkis win? WHO WON DAMNIT!!


Yeah, those polls are really doing my head in.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
July 22 2011 01:09 GMT
#5799
On July 22 2011 10:04 nekuodah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 10:04 trikshun wrote:
The only reason why people are siding with Milkis is because they don't understand Business or anything about the international market.


Or the fact it was an unfair debate and there was uncalled for personal attacks/passive aggression and needless spin.

Or the fact that people are more interested in the way things are done, than the boring cold buisness things.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
July 22 2011 01:10 GMT
#5800
On July 22 2011 10:08 Longshank wrote:
I'm usually a fan of Wheat but this episode was disgusting, I never thought I'd see him kiss someones butt like he did today.

"Yeah Alex, you know I agree with you but this is a topic for another time"

WTF wheat : /


Sums up my thoughts as well.

I'm out of this thread until the next random drama pops up.
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