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DigitalisDestructi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States488 Posts
July 22 2011 01:06 GMT
#5761
On July 22 2011 10:03 VillageBC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 10:02 elmizzt wrote:
On July 22 2011 10:00 Mioraka wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:58 VillageBC wrote:
milki's can't just hide behind the 'i'm just translating' label while at the same time slanting that translation with his bias. I don't care, I think EG is right.. Milki's is overly concerned with Korean culture and TL is ruining e-sports.


LOL

I don't even know what to say.

Here is your news ladies and gentlemen, TEAMLIQUID IS RUINING ESPORTS.

HAHAHAHAHAH so good.


What, you guys need a sarcasm tag to understand it?

I don't think you can backtrack from that one, bud. Take it in stride.
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nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
July 22 2011 01:06 GMT
#5762
whoa... that wheat guy...his arrogance blinds him...
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 22 2011 01:06 GMT
#5763
On July 22 2011 10:03 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 10:00 nam nam wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:58 VillageBC wrote:
milki's can't just hide behind the 'i'm just translating' label while at the same time slanting that translation with his bias. I don't care, I think EG is right.. Milki's is overly concerned with Korean culture and TL is ruining e-sports.


If the translations is accurate he can say whatever he likes about it. You know like any of us.

But to be fair, when Milkis then continues on to say things like "if you don't understand why this is such a big deal, then you just don't understand Korean culture" in a pretty condescending manner. It's obvious that Milkis was very biased in how he carried out the whole thing.

His job was to present the Korean side of the story, which I disagree with. It's kind of time for Koreans to understand that SC2 is becoming globalized and start to protect their players as they're competing with foreign teams now.

However I lost a ton of respect for AG when he started attacking Milkis for his post. It was unnecessary and Milkis, as a translator should only post a translation of what was put on ThisIsGame and PlayXP. Which is what he did. Other translators would have done the same.
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ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
July 22 2011 01:06 GMT
#5764
Dj Wheat on point!
InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
July 22 2011 01:06 GMT
#5765
DjWheat going all Bill O'rielly over this.
Grimsong
Profile Joined August 2010
United States252 Posts
July 22 2011 01:06 GMT
#5766
Well said Wheat
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
July 22 2011 01:06 GMT
#5767
good ending point by djwheat,
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
July 22 2011 01:07 GMT
#5768
On July 22 2011 10:00 Sqq wrote:
The end of this left a bad taste in my mouth. Everything was so smooth up until the whole TL\Milkis\Trasnlation bit


He's right though.

If you are putting out StarCraft 2 news, it HAS to be on TL or no one gives a fuck, and half the time the news is broken by someone randomly on TL before anyone else can get the story out. I found this out doing my own thing in the past. NO one gives a fuck outside of TL. And half of the reporting done on TL is done by people who aren't "staff" for anyone, but there IS responsibility that needs to be accounted for, and someone needs to step up.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15476 Posts
July 22 2011 01:07 GMT
#5769
DJWheat confirming the massive culture gap >_<

"Its all about the individual, not the team who made him who he is!"
A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
July 22 2011 01:07 GMT
#5770
On July 22 2011 10:06 nalgene wrote:
whoa... that wheat guy...his arrogance blinds him...

could you tell me how anything that he just said is arrogance?
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
July 22 2011 01:07 GMT
#5771
On July 22 2011 10:06 Nuublet wrote:
Kind of weird to bring on a translator as the counter to the ceo of EG. He's just a fucking translator!?!


Moral of the night. He was just on way too deep water here.
alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
July 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#5772
I don't think this is EG's fault and entirely PuMa's fault. He is the one who turned his back on his team at the drop of a hat. When is EG supposed to get access to Korean players except when they're visiting the United States?
I am a tournament organizazer.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
July 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#5773
I'm usually a fan of Wheat but this episode was disgusting, I never thought I'd see him kiss someones butt like he did today.

"Yeah Alex, you know I agree with you but this is a topic for another time"

WTF wheat : /
ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
July 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#5774

On July 22 2011 10:06 nalgene wrote:
whoa... that wheat guy...his arrogance blinds him...


It's his show don't watch if you think he's arrogant lol
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
July 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#5775
On July 22 2011 10:05 Graham wrote:
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On July 22 2011 10:04 Senx wrote:
My god, what is up with EG constantly upsetting the community?

To be fair, it feels like every other day something upsets the community. Be-it players, teams, tournaments, etc. ><


Yep, the SC2 scene is tainted with shit and people taking shit over the top. It makes me sad. Wheat is right when he says fuck everything and just think about the player it's affecting.
Twoinches
Profile Joined April 2010
United States131 Posts
July 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#5776
On July 22 2011 10:07 Mohdoo wrote:
DJWheat confirming the massive culture gap >_<

"Its all about the individual, not the team who made him who he is!"


tsl made him, Eg will take him to new places.
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llatszer
Profile Joined September 2010
United States70 Posts
July 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#5777
On July 22 2011 10:07 Mohdoo wrote:
DJWheat confirming the massive culture gap >_<

"Its all about the individual, not the team who made him who he is!"


While that may be true that there is that culture gap, Puma is not who is he because of TSL, that is kind of a joke.
Tegin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States840 Posts
July 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#5778
I agree entirely with AG and EG's approach. Sucks for TSL and Mr. Lee but hopefully its a lesson learned to contract your players and keep them happy. Thanks for the show djWHEAT!
Pain is weakness leaving the body.
cskalias.pbe
Profile Joined April 2010
United States293 Posts
July 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#5779
On July 22 2011 10:05 Slakter wrote:
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On July 22 2011 10:04 trikshun wrote:
The only reason why people are siding with Milkis is because they don't understand Business or anything about the international market.

Dont say stuff like that without putting any argumentation behind it.

I can say "Everyone who sides with EG are fucking retarded!" but I dont, cus that´s stupid to say.


If you were watching SOTG, then you got the argument behind it. If you knew something about business or the international market, you wouldn't have needed to watch SOTG to know AG is right.
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
July 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#5780
On July 22 2011 10:06 cskalias.pbe wrote:
So many people here will hang on ONE word or ONE phrase and not understand the general idea the person is talking about, and will rant for 250 pages about how "right" they are.

Who cares if they cut milkis off because he doesn't have a fucking argument. If he's basic argument is that EG was disrespectiful, then FINE, just say that and the topic is done. If his argument is that this is bad for the scene and for the players, then I have NO idea when or how he made that point. His argument is : feel sad for Coach Lee because.... I mean you can't do this because this is always how we've done this.

Whereas AG is trying to grow the entire esport scene as a whole and not make in a "korean" scene. He is afraid that all the korean organizations will band together and make it even more difficult for foreign teams to get involved and trade players, which is totally understandable given how KESPA currently operates.

I love Milkis, and his translations. But as an SC2 fan and teamliquid member, I just don't know why you are all upset and taking his side. What IS his side? I love SC2 more than coach lee. I love sc2 more than being 100% proper in every conceivable player negotiation.


The point is that it's generally seen as rude to interrupt someone. What does it matter if his point wasn't good? At least have some fucking manners.
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