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EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
July 22 2011 01:00 GMT
#5701
Positive feedback? read this thread.
Dear Sixsmith...
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
July 22 2011 01:00 GMT
#5702
On July 22 2011 09:58 VillageBC wrote:
milki's can't just hide behind the 'i'm just translating' label while at the same time slanting that translation with his bias. I don't care, I think EG is right.. Milki's is overly concerned with Korean culture and TL is ruining e-sports.


If the translations is accurate he can say whatever he likes about it. You know like any of us.
LuckstYle
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany181 Posts
July 22 2011 01:00 GMT
#5703
AG: yo korea is great, but its good to get a cheap and good player, we dont care if that damages TSL

wtf?
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
July 22 2011 01:00 GMT
#5704
On July 22 2011 09:58 OrderlyChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:55 Zim23 wrote:
I get where AG is coming from. A translation or post from a TL staff member can cause a shit-ton of bad publicity for a team and could easily be completely false, and there's no accountability for that. It's a murky area for sure.


TL staff and members have translated rumors from BW that were potentially very damaging (and many ended up being true). The most prominent was when rekrul pretty much broke the match fixing scandal, and then when at least one player was falsely accused. The entire list was translated, and both the korean and foreign communities had to deal with the consequences of the false accusation.

Yeah but what happens on TL is much less damaging to a Korean team than a foreign team. Again, not saying the current system is wrong or flawed, but it's an interesting point.
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 01:01:16
July 22 2011 01:00 GMT
#5705
On July 22 2011 09:58 VillageBC wrote:
milki's can't just hide behind the 'i'm just translating' label while at the same time slanting that translation with his bias. I don't care, I think EG is right.. Milki's is overly concerned with Korean culture and TL is ruining e-sports.


LOL

I don't even know what to say.

Here is your news ladies and gentlemen, TEAMLIQUID IS RUINING ESPORTS.
eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
July 22 2011 01:01 GMT
#5706
On July 22 2011 09:59 koreasilver wrote:
I like how wheat cuts off milkis at every corner and then says "okay, lets drop it", but then each time AG goes on 5 minute monologues right after.

Fuck off.


i felt generally the same way. really disappointing as a first time listener to weapon of choice. so weird how djWheat seems to run his other show so much better, but this was a total facepalm/trainwreck show to me.
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
July 22 2011 01:01 GMT
#5707
Its 3 am here, but DJ, you just lost a viewer because of your biased moderation.

Also it wasn't fair put Milkis against such a dick lawsuit, and that works (or not) in EG's favor.

So bad
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
July 22 2011 01:01 GMT
#5708
DJ Wheat speaks~~~~~~~~!!
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
July 22 2011 01:01 GMT
#5709
I don't watch the show but from reading this thread sounds like they are treating milkis like shit for no reason
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
July 22 2011 01:01 GMT
#5710
Actually give Alex props for putting his TL account out there to receive PMs rather than some marketing plug.
d=(^_^)z
Tenhou
Profile Joined April 2011
1052 Posts
July 22 2011 01:01 GMT
#5711
Milkis man, COME BACK TO THE BW COMMUNITY AND TRANSLATE FOR US <3 I miss the odds and ends.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 22 2011 01:01 GMT
#5712
On July 22 2011 09:57 Scribble wrote:
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On July 22 2011 09:54 Amui wrote:
AG is now trying to undermine Milkis's credibility? Despite the fact that he translates for TL and has done it for a long time?

Translator's are supposed to translate.

What does AG expect milkis to do?


His point was that Milkis posted a one sided news article that kicked off a huge unnecessary shitstorm, and just like EG needs to be held accountable for their actions, Milkis needs to be held accountable for not getting both sides of the story to present a fair article. He started asking for EG's side well after this whole controversy started up.

He translated what ThisIsGame and PlayXP posted... he didn't get Lee's statements. Waxangel/TL was the one who posted the translation of Lee's statements.
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Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
July 22 2011 01:01 GMT
#5713
Isn't wheat backed by EG anyway?
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
July 22 2011 01:01 GMT
#5714
Not only have I lost all respect for EG, but for Wheat. What a load of bollocks to organise a debate then team up with one side and attack the other, then shut off the other guy!
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
shavi
Profile Joined July 2010
United States127 Posts
July 22 2011 01:01 GMT
#5715
On July 22 2011 09:58 Tula wrote:
tbh Milkis on this point you are pretty much wrong.

If you post something inflamatory according to your opinion, you need to give both parties a chance to comment. You say why should we contact EG, we are volunteers etc. etc.

Well actually thats a part of western culture you seem to be ignoring fairly comfortably. It's considered very very rude for any newspaper to simply post one side of a story without giving the other side a chance to comment (even if that answer is often only a "no comment at this time"). And yes that is also an unwritten law for volunteers.

Maybe you should consider THAT next time you stress that "we" need to pay attention to Korean culture. Maybe we do, and maybe we don't, but if we need to, than certainly so do you.

If you translate a post to some extent it becomes yours, unless you clearly state that you have no opinion you just translated it.

Closing note: If the Korean teams want to keep their players the answer is quite simple. Make them happy and pay them well. If they don't they WILL be poached as soon as they are not protected by contracts and no amount of crying that that isn't fair will protect them from it.


But he didn't post anything inflammatory except on his twitter, and that's just his personal twitter that doesn't have any backing biases other than his own personal feelings. All he posted on TL was a translated article, and a response from the TSL coach because he doesn't read TL / have an account (as milkis said.) I don't see any personal thoughts or opinions in the OP, just his twitter, which again is totally seperate from this.
ziggurat
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada847 Posts
July 22 2011 01:01 GMT
#5716
On July 22 2011 09:57 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:55 saint_d wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:53 StarStruck wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:52 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:51 StutteR wrote:
On July 22 2011 09:50 Corrosive wrote:
Milkis getting defensive for no reason.


AG is dumping a bunch of bullshit on him. This is not on Milkis. EG needs to take care of its own PR problems. Don't blame the community. Don't blame a valued member of our community.


Nothing is bullshit about what he's saying. Milkis has brought up multple sources to confirm the transfer and none of them were EG.



It's EG's job to post a Press Statement for f sake.

/facepalm

It's EG's job to post a press statement about them maybe picking up a player?


There is no maybe. His sources were credible.


This is nonsense. You don't do a press release until you sign a contract.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
July 22 2011 01:01 GMT
#5717
On July 22 2011 10:01 Yew wrote:
Isn't wheat backed by EG anyway?


yes, yes he is lol.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
July 22 2011 01:01 GMT
#5718
On July 22 2011 10:00 LuckstYle wrote:
AG: yo korea is great, but its good to get a cheap and good player, we dont care if that damages TSL

wtf?

"Oh, we want these good players that are available, but I'm way too nice to take a player from an established team."

wtf?
Average means I'm better than half of you.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 22 2011 01:01 GMT
#5719
On July 22 2011 09:59 saint_d wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 09:57 moopie wrote:
This is the first time I have ever listened to DJ Wheat (and likely last) but dude, terrible moderation.

Milkis translates article, people (including Milkis) ask for EG's response on twitter, EG keeps quiet for a whole day (aside from INcontroL trolling with silly tweets), then EG blames Milkis for faulty journalism.

/facepalm.

Milkis tweeted Scoot's personal twitter asking for a response. He didn't tweet the TSL Coach's personal twitter did he? There's other ways to contact people than through public personal twitter accounts. Milkis made no attempt to contact anyone in private.

He didn't need to, he's a translator. What he does is take articles off DES / thisisgame / etc that might interest the foreign non-korean reading population, and translates them. He's also very much appreciated for doing just that (at least in the bw section). EG is in charge of their own PR.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
July 22 2011 01:01 GMT
#5720
On July 22 2011 10:00 LuckstYle wrote:
AG: yo korea is great, but its good to get a cheap and good player, we dont care if that damages TSL

wtf?

ORRRRR the player isnt being paid, so they pay him and give him more chances to compete. pretty damn evil right?
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