Poor milkis, I think I agree on his points, but he is getting bulldozed on the debating/speaking aspect that he is going to end up looking bad. Probably not a huge deal, but this isnt ideal, esports media- still some room for growth.

A Wet Shamwow

United States1590 Posts

July 22 2011 00:57 GMT

#5663

On July 22 2011 09:57 zoLo wrote:

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It is. If you follow news from other teams, they often post a press statement about acquiring a player. EG recently picked up floe, Choco Blanka, and Momochi and they even put out a statement, but for some reason they didn't for Puma.

because they havent even signed him yet

darthfoley

United States8004 Posts

July 22 2011 00:57 GMT

#5664

GOD milkis stop saying LIKE!

Phaded

Australia579 Posts

July 22 2011 00:57 GMT

#5665

On July 22 2011 09:54 EG.lectR wrote:

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His comment is because Milkis was the direct source between the Korean sites and the English-speaking websites. He went on to update his Twitter with opinions on the subject which influenced this thread from a subjective and uninformed point of view. It's not just someone posting on a forum thread, it's much more than that.

I hope you understand that.

There could have been hundreds of members on TL who understand Korean who could have translated the same article. There's no need for journalism when everyone is translating the same block of text posted by someone in Korea. If Milkis didn't translate it, someone else would have, and he would have made the same opinionated comments.

He's a translator, god forbid he has a fucking opinion

SenorChang

Australia4730 Posts

July 22 2011 00:57 GMT

#5666

Milkis likes saying like lol.

Like.

moopie

12605 Posts

July 22 2011 00:57 GMT

#5667

This is the first time I have ever listened to DJ Wheat (and likely last) but dude, terrible moderation.

Milkis translates article, people (including Milkis) ask for EG's response on twitter, EG keeps quiet for a whole day (aside from INcontroL trolling with silly tweets), then EG blames Milkis for faulty journalism.

/facepalm.

itsben

435 Posts

July 22 2011 00:57 GMT

#5668

On July 22 2011 09:57 zoLo wrote:

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Puma's not officially signed.

elmizzt

United States3309 Posts

July 22 2011 00:57 GMT

#5669

AG needs to stop his fake apologizing.

Scribble

2077 Posts

July 22 2011 00:57 GMT

#5670

On July 22 2011 09:54 Amui wrote:
AG is now trying to undermine Milkis's credibility? Despite the fact that he translates for TL and has done it for a long time?

Translator's are supposed to translate.

What does AG expect milkis to do?

His point was that Milkis posted a one sided news article that kicked off a huge unnecessary shitstorm, and just like EG needs to be held accountable for their actions, Milkis needs to be held accountable for not getting both sides of the story to present a fair article. He started asking for EG's side well after this whole controversy started up.

SafeAsCheese

United States4924 Posts

July 22 2011 00:58 GMT

#5671

On July 22 2011 09:57 zoLo wrote:

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They have not officially "picked up" puma yet. Jesus.

thanhbao86

Canada199 Posts

July 22 2011 00:58 GMT

#5672

Its teamliquid. Its their website AG. Jeez Alex, you need to read this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883

Mioraka

Canada1353 Posts

July 22 2011 00:58 GMT

#5673

On July 22 2011 09:56 longdivision wrote:
I think it's quite clear where djwheat's loyalties lie.

I don't mind that, but at least show the slighties interest in hiding your plain bias.

Talk about journalism....

Nuri

New Zealand280 Posts

July 22 2011 00:58 GMT

#5674

DJ is clearly biased with EG lmfao u could see him smirk after milkies gave his final thoughts.

WolfintheSheep

Canada14127 Posts

July 22 2011 00:58 GMT

#5675

On July 22 2011 09:57 zoLo wrote:
It is. If you follow news from other teams, they often post a press statement about acquiring a player. EG recently picked up floe, Choco Blanka, and Momochi and they even put out a statement, but for some reason they didn't for Puma.

Yeah, too bad they hadn't even acquired him yet. Maybe they could have put things to together if Puma had made a decision and told EG that he was 100% signing with them, but he HADN'T.

ribboo

Sweden1842 Posts

July 22 2011 00:58 GMT

#5676

On July 22 2011 09:56 getSome[703] wrote:

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And even when he was contacted he didn't leave a reply?

You realize this is EG's first statement on the issue when the story broke 18 hours ago?

not defending EG at all, just saying what he said.

Sky0

United States214 Posts

July 22 2011 00:58 GMT

#5677

apology is an admittance of guilt. EG is not guilty? They contacted a player who is not under contract to join there team. End of story, this is global business,not a korean business.

OrderlyChaos

United States1115 Posts

July 22 2011 00:58 GMT

#5678

On July 22 2011 09:55 Zim23 wrote:
I get where AG is coming from. A translation or post from a TL staff member can cause a shit-ton of bad publicity for a team and could easily be completely false, and there's no accountability for that. It's a murky area for sure.

TL staff and members have translated rumors from BW that were potentially very damaging (and many ended up being true). The most prominent was when rekrul pretty much broke the match fixing scandal, and then when at least one player was falsely accused. The entire list was translated, and both the korean and foreign communities had to deal with the consequences of the false accusation.

VillageBC

322 Posts

July 22 2011 00:58 GMT

#5679

milki's can't just hide behind the 'i'm just translating' label while at the same time slanting that translation with his bias. I don't care, I think EG is right.. Milki's is overly concerned with Korean culture and TL is ruining e-sports.

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zerglingrodeo

United States910 Posts

July 22 2011 00:58 GMT

#5680

I think this show was great. Milkis didn't really bring much to the table besides insight into possible cultural differences, but it was good to hear WHEAT and Alex.