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On July 22 2011 09:54 Twoinches wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 09:52 DigitalisDestructi wrote:On July 22 2011 09:48 Twoinches wrote: "you expect me to get sources" - Milkis
THATS HOW FUCKING JOURNALISM WORKS YOU ASSHAT! Why do you assume that Milkis is a journalist? Oh, that's right, it's because Garfield said it. Perspective for the win. dont translate something and assume its 100% fact then. He's a community member, not an official writer, just like you and me.
EDIT: This information is not 100% verified, since I'm not a journalist.
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Poor milkis, I think I agree on his points, but he is getting bulldozed on the debating/speaking aspect that he is going to end up looking bad. Probably not a huge deal, but this isnt ideal, esports media- still some room for growth.
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On July 22 2011 09:57 zoLo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 09:55 saint_d wrote:On July 22 2011 09:53 StarStruck wrote:On July 22 2011 09:52 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 22 2011 09:51 StutteR wrote:On July 22 2011 09:50 Corrosive wrote: Milkis getting defensive for no reason. AG is dumping a bunch of bullshit on him. This is not on Milkis. EG needs to take care of its own PR problems. Don't blame the community. Don't blame a valued member of our community. Nothing is bullshit about what he's saying. Milkis has brought up multple sources to confirm the transfer and none of them were EG. It's EG's job to post a Press Statement for f sake. /facepalm It's EG's job to post a press statement about them maybe picking up a player? It is. If you follow news from other teams, they often post a press statement about acquiring a player. EG recently picked up floe, Choco Blanka, and Momochi and they even put out a statement, but for some reason they didn't for Puma. because they havent even signed him yet
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GOD milkis stop saying LIKE!
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On July 22 2011 09:54 EG.lectR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 09:52 Fionn wrote: Wow, so Alex wants Milkis to go to EG before posting a translated article?
Milkis didn't write the Korean article. If Alex wants to be mad, then go to PlayXP and be mad. His comment is because Milkis was the direct source between the Korean sites and the English-speaking websites. He went on to update his Twitter with opinions on the subject which influenced this thread from a subjective and uninformed point of view. It's not just someone posting on a forum thread, it's much more than that. I hope you understand that. There could have been hundreds of members on TL who understand Korean who could have translated the same article. There's no need for journalism when everyone is translating the same block of text posted by someone in Korea. If Milkis didn't translate it, someone else would have, and he would have made the same opinionated comments.
He's a translator, god forbid he has a fucking opinion
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Milkis likes saying like lol.
Like.
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This is the first time I have ever listened to DJ Wheat (and likely last) but dude, terrible moderation.
Milkis translates article, people (including Milkis) ask for EG's response on twitter, EG keeps quiet for a whole day (aside from INcontroL trolling with silly tweets), then EG blames Milkis for faulty journalism.
/facepalm.
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On July 22 2011 09:57 zoLo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 09:55 saint_d wrote:On July 22 2011 09:53 StarStruck wrote:On July 22 2011 09:52 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 22 2011 09:51 StutteR wrote:On July 22 2011 09:50 Corrosive wrote: Milkis getting defensive for no reason. AG is dumping a bunch of bullshit on him. This is not on Milkis. EG needs to take care of its own PR problems. Don't blame the community. Don't blame a valued member of our community. Nothing is bullshit about what he's saying. Milkis has brought up multple sources to confirm the transfer and none of them were EG. It's EG's job to post a Press Statement for f sake. /facepalm It's EG's job to post a press statement about them maybe picking up a player? It is. If you follow news from other teams, they often post a press statement about acquiring a player. EG recently picked up floe, Choco Blanka, and Momochi and they even put out a statement, but for some reason they didn't for Puma.
Puma's not officially signed.
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AG needs to stop his fake apologizing.
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On July 22 2011 09:54 Amui wrote: AG is now trying to undermine Milkis's credibility? Despite the fact that he translates for TL and has done it for a long time?
Translator's are supposed to translate.
What does AG expect milkis to do?
His point was that Milkis posted a one sided news article that kicked off a huge unnecessary shitstorm, and just like EG needs to be held accountable for their actions, Milkis needs to be held accountable for not getting both sides of the story to present a fair article. He started asking for EG's side well after this whole controversy started up.
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On July 22 2011 09:57 zoLo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 09:55 saint_d wrote:On July 22 2011 09:53 StarStruck wrote:On July 22 2011 09:52 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 22 2011 09:51 StutteR wrote:On July 22 2011 09:50 Corrosive wrote: Milkis getting defensive for no reason. AG is dumping a bunch of bullshit on him. This is not on Milkis. EG needs to take care of its own PR problems. Don't blame the community. Don't blame a valued member of our community. Nothing is bullshit about what he's saying. Milkis has brought up multple sources to confirm the transfer and none of them were EG. It's EG's job to post a Press Statement for f sake. /facepalm It's EG's job to post a press statement about them maybe picking up a player? It is. If you follow news from other teams, they often post a press statement about acquiring a player. EG recently picked up floe, Choco Blanka, and Momochi and they even put out a statement, but for some reason they didn't for Puma.
They have not officially "picked up" puma yet. Jesus.
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On July 22 2011 09:56 longdivision wrote: I think it's quite clear where djwheat's loyalties lie.
I don't mind that, but at least show the slighties interest in hiding your plain bias.
Talk about journalism....
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DJ is clearly biased with EG lmfao u could see him smirk after milkies gave his final thoughts.
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On July 22 2011 09:57 zoLo wrote: It is. If you follow news from other teams, they often post a press statement about acquiring a player. EG recently picked up floe, Choco Blanka, and Momochi and they even put out a statement, but for some reason they didn't for Puma. Yeah, too bad they hadn't even acquired him yet. Maybe they could have put things to together if Puma had made a decision and told EG that he was 100% signing with them, but he HADN'T.
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On July 22 2011 09:56 getSome[703] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 09:55 ribboo wrote:On July 22 2011 09:54 KanoCoke wrote: LOL Scoots buttscooting his way out of the fact that he ACTUALLY got tweeted by Milkis about the topic 16 hours ago and didn't even reply. Now saying that he didn't get contacted about this? he said he wasnt contacted beforehand. And even when he was contacted he didn't leave a reply? You realize this is EG's first statement on the issue when the story broke 18 hours ago? not defending EG at all, just saying what he said.
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apology is an admittance of guilt. EG is not guilty? They contacted a player who is not under contract to join there team. End of story, this is global business,not a korean business.
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On July 22 2011 09:55 Zim23 wrote: I get where AG is coming from. A translation or post from a TL staff member can cause a shit-ton of bad publicity for a team and could easily be completely false, and there's no accountability for that. It's a murky area for sure.
TL staff and members have translated rumors from BW that were potentially very damaging (and many ended up being true). The most prominent was when rekrul pretty much broke the match fixing scandal, and then when at least one player was falsely accused. The entire list was translated, and both the korean and foreign communities had to deal with the consequences of the false accusation.
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milki's can't just hide behind the 'i'm just translating' label while at the same time slanting that translation with his bias. I don't care, I think EG is right.. Milki's is overly concerned with Korean culture and TL is ruining e-sports.
User was warned for this post
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I think this show was great. Milkis didn't really bring much to the table besides insight into possible cultural differences, but it was good to hear WHEAT and Alex.
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